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i agree with what RB has to say about the closing of chakras. Its more like the chakras have some kind of resting potential or resting charge that people automatically call it being closed, when in fact it is in this normal unbothered resting state. They never really seem to close or stop their functioning, but the intensity that they will work at can be less or more.

quote:Originally posted by Nay

I've only had one headache, and that was after straining way too hard to get out of my body..

Holy moley youve only had one headache in your life?!

bluejay,

sounds like you might have got a case of NEW indigestion. I havnt gotten headaches from NEW but from other systems i have and it usually happened because my eyes were bigger than my stomach or i just didnt sufficiently collect everything to the navel. Maybe you were getting a little tired and all of it didnt get dragged into the navel and was left in the brow region.

maybe thought process during those activities is stimulating it. Chakras get stimulated from all sorts of activities besides direct manipulation.

hmmm... maybe you can be a little more specific, development is a broad term. In what particular area do you want to develop, are we talking strickly NEW here and what aspects of NEW do you want to develop?

5-7 is a good number to me, it can be pretty subjective though. I guess it partly depends on the body's needs? sometimes it only takes 2-3 sweeps to feel like that is enough, sometimes its more, sometimes it feels good to do it throughout the day. Overall i feel bunches better the more i sweep. i sweep by time though, dont really count how many time i do it within a half hour or so, just kind of go with the flow and enjoy the sensations.

Ive had the best luck with catching it in progress as i am falling asleep. A kind of keeping mind awake but body asleep mentality and letting it happen naturally. The problem with this method is that you dont have much conscious control over when the projection occurs, but ideally if you could really get into the whole mind awake body asleep feeling thats sometimes all it takes. The good part about this way is that it is very simple and doesnt take much effort, the projections that you would be catching in progress are happening naturally you are just along for the ride.

there is a christian church that show exorcists on tv every week here in nyc. Some of them look real some of them look fake. I cant tape them for you right now because i have no tv, but next time i see it i will note the channel.

i think that 20 second time limit(maybe a bit less) to see an after image is what some neurophysiologists have determined to be the time it takes for the light being reflected into the eye to burn or make an impression on the retina.

One of the arguements RB makes is that afterimages can be seen nearly immediately with a bit of practice, so maybe they arnt afterimages? I think they probably still are afterimages though.

Tha arua from the few times ive seen it looks different than afterimages. It raises up off the body further than afterimages do and has a kind of internal shimmer to it, kind of like heat waves.

I think the purpose of the aura viewer here at astral pulse is more for training purposes, to get your peripheral in action and to take notice of subtle lights, but doesnt really show you an aura of a color.

quote:Originally posted by narfellus

Interesting. I wonder what the screeching sound was? When APing can't you "imagine" yourself somewhere, without having to go through the process of actually "travelling" there? I'm thinking that there would be a core of magma of incredible size, gravitational pull. Come to think of it, the electromagnetic forces at the center of th earth would be incredible, i wonder if that would interfere with psychic energy...

Yes you can imagine yourself somewhere without having to go through the process of actually travelling there, but the few times i have done this from the RTZ i feel like i end up in an imagined location instead of the "actual" place. Because of that i have pretty much abandoned that mode of transport, from the RTZ.

As far as the screeching noise i have no idea what it was, it was pretty uncomfortable and piercing though.

something  like that has happened to me as well also in my right leg. i think it was because of excess tension, once i relaxed a little more it stopped happening.

Ive tried going inside the earth and saw basically the same thing that you do when going through solid objects, the material of the object. Regardless i kept going to see as far as i could and got a terrible screeching noise the further "down" i got and woke up.

hey zord,

good to see the progress! Heat is usually a good sign i would say, as long as its not uncomfortable. You might notice that when they feel hot energywise they are almost always physically hot too, so much so that people can tell the difference between the warmth of your hands and someone who doesnt manipulate awareness. so, something is definitely going on there!

moving energy can seem a bit more complicated, im guessing the better you concentrate and relax the easier it will happen, think natural when moving energy try not to force it too much!

Dream journals are good for catagorizing your dreams as well. Categorizing is very good for increasing the chances of you having future lucid dreams in that: you can select portions of the dreams you have written down that stand out as dream behavior or dream settings/themes; after a good collection of dreams you can take notice of those particular kinds of dream behavior that are repeated or that are typical for you. For example i often dream of objects that are out of place and being at places that are unfamiliar. so, now i know what to look for or target when thinking about being lucid or doing reality checks when awake and asleep.

Thanks lighthouse! i like your picture, looks like your about to pounce on the cameraman[]

jilola kind of reminds me of jeff daniels.

Nay looks and writes like she is really fun to be around[]

Hi matthew,

I know the drunken stooper syndrome can get down right discouraging, here we are finally able to separate and once we are out we cant even orient ourselves. im hoping, like the intense vibrations, that its one of those things that will gradually go away or at least die down. Eventhough, every failed projection because of the stooperness brings us closer to a successful projection because we will be ready for it next time.

HooVooLoo,

You want me to seek out a gibbering idiot in my dream state? Sounds like fun give me two weeks, in the second week i will look for you and we will see what happens.

Thanks everyone for taking the time to read and respond, i want to read some of your guys experiences soon.

yea i was doing stuff like that once and someone farted. The energy from farts is repulsive[xx(] had to leave the room[^]

quote:Originally posted by MAGUS89

Last Night I was trying to Astral Project. Later in the process While my hands were on my side and i was laying down, my hands felt like they were moving, I would think in my mind Where i wants my hands ( not arms) to move. It ws wierd, like I felt my Pysical hand plus my astral hand moving but not my psyical hand moving.

I really do wish I could of Aped , I lifted my hand but when i opend my eyes i saw I wasnt Aping

hey magus,

if your arms feel like they are floating, it means that you are ready to get out so roll out. Dont get too excited or start thinking about it too much because that can cancel out the state of awareness, without thinking feel like you are rolling out. Also at least with me, visualizing that i am rolling out cancels out the awareness, just doing it by feeling that you are rolling out works good. If you cant stop spinning once out, do the opposite and feel like you are slowing down or if too excited order yourself to stop, something like "stop spinning now"

quote:Originally posted by narfellus


So maybe they do want to thwart you; maybe they don't want you to build defenses or learn tricks. Maybe fear of the unknown is the only thing TO fear, and once you know what they are, whether prince or duke or minion, their power over you is lessened. Just a theory.

Well whether they are or arnt actual negs or do or dont want to condition me to stay away from the astral(which it seems like they do when they do attack), im going to keep going and in the end any attempt to thwart me will make me stronger and will help me understand more about how i can and do respond to negative pressure. I have good faith in perserverance and an ability and desire to understand.

I would put fear of the unknown up there with other instinctual psychological phenomenon encountered while out of body, like the gravity instinct. while out of body gravity is instinctually felt and can effect one by pulling them down towards the ground while flying keeping one from flying. I can see how the fear of the unknown can manifest as creepy scary things coming to get you since quite often the default mode when approaching something strange and different is with caution leading one to think, what is it thats there to be cautious about? And if its that fear itself that is creating things to be scared of, your caught in a loop in which a change in an instinctual fear of the unknown would be ideal. Changing an approach from what is it there that is to be feared to what is it there that is not to be feared, can radically transend any further expected out of body experiences towards a positive note. One of the things that i have a problem with psd is that it can seem to encourage this idea that there is something there to be afraid of in a way that is unnecessary. It would be nice if Bruce would write a book just on positive experiences.

after reading psd i get an increased amount of "attacks". I probably unconsciously create the attacks, but it does say in the book that negs have a way of almost punishing behavior that will compromise them. being aware of them and thier games would probably be something a neg would not want having so i could see how conditioning me with more attacks after reading the book would be useful for thier attachments.

I dont know how intelligent they are, they might not be able to think in that way. In which case the attacks would be because of an active imagination.

AHH!! i finally figured out how to post images i can finnally join in the fun! Heres an image of me at work:


And heres another of me:




J/K the above two where to confuse and bumfuzzle this is the real me and all my furriness

If it is real bad you can always take an asprin for temporary relief and then finish future energy work by driving the energy towards the navel region.

When moving energy ive had pretty good results by expanding the awareness that you have, lets say in the hands, to where you want it to go. So instead of making the energy move from the hands up the arm or where ever else, very calmly take the awareness you have in your hands and expand it up the arm.

Another thing ive done that has led to good results as far as the awareness of energy happening naturally while practicing NEW is by doing some stretching that our bodies do naturally. The kind of stretching that is almost automatic upon waking, usually followed or done while deeply yawning out loud. When that kind of stretching/yawning is done deliberately it has a good relaxing response that almost comes about over you in waves by itself.

Doing stretching that involves very soft, lazy, comfortable movements something as simple as bending the wrists back and forth or closing and opening the hand, lazily shruging the shoulders have helped a lot with awareness of energy. Also listening to the body's demands when doing deliberate lazy stretches as opposed to doing a set number of them has led to better results. Sometimes its good to yawn and stretch once or twice and at other times you dont want to stop because it is so relaxing.

quote:Originally posted by boydster

Hi Michael,


I'm actively working with a couple of other people who have sleep problems and I'm trying to see if NEW will help them. Has anyone else noticed this phenomenon? I'm really curious to know if this is something unique to me--using NEW to cure insomnia.

For the most part NEW has helped any sleeplessness ive had. If i dont steer the sensations toward the navel in the end, i am left more energized though. Steering it towards the navel region seems to have a settling down effect on me.

ok thanks guys, i feel like an utter moron. All i had to do was click logon on again at the prompt, the 50 or so asterisks in the password form frazzled me. HA!