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I usually attempt to AP at around 3 pm. if i try to do it after i wake up i don't move or open my eyes and nothing happens, then i get in a different position and relax and do some technique but nothing ever happens, if i wake up at about 4am i get up for about 40 min and then go back to bed relax and then i just instantly fall asleep. the only time when i get any results its around 3pm. when do you AP ?

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I just breathe in and out.  I do not do anything else.  It does not always work.

you should breathe in and out 50 times or until you are completely relaxed so inhale 1 exhale 2 after you're completely relaxed count 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 - 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 - 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 - 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 - 5 6 7 8 9 10 - 10 9 8 7 6 5 etc. and only count on the exhale so you are not focusing on your physical body.

as your muscles begin to relax your brain senses these relaxation signals and misinterprets them, thinking you are falling down. The brain then sends signals to the muscles in your arms and legs in an attempt to jerk you back upright. This misinterpretation that takes place in your brain may also be responsible for the "falling" dreams that accompany the falling sensation. These "dreams" are not really normal dreams, as they are not produced from R.E.M sleep, but rather more like a daydream or hallucination in response to the body's sensations.

 

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Edit: if you're going to post, at least pretend to keep it on topic... Thanks.

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there is one tiny section for people who believe that OOBEs are more than just chemical brain interactions... and that is policed by evangelical admin trying to convert them to their way of thinking.

hmmm... interesting

right now we get lost in so many forums..

Exactly, why is there a topic for OBE's and astral projection ?

44 replies  there should be an extremely hot topic and an ultra hot topic.

It all depends upon us. If I want to get Astral Pulse I can. I love dreaming actually.

WHAT ?? you can get astral pulse ?

why would you want that ?? did a demon scare you ?   you need to close your third eye chakra. you can find some ways to do that on the internet.

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Oh, my bad, I read the question post too quick and didn't see the don't.
My apologies on the confusion. What I posted is not a phase technique per se, but it will get you deep into a F10/F12 state while remaining awake.

You are focusing on your breathing, counting up and down from 1 to 10 on each exhale, augmenting the lowest number each cycle.

Ok so inhale then while exhaling count 1-10, inhale then while exhaling count 10-2 etc. right ?

I wrote this a while back after I found a really cool method in the old archives of the site. It worked very well for me. Nowadays, not always because I have progressed to more calibrated efforts, but it remains a tried and true method I keep in my back pocket arsenal of methods for just in case when I'm 'in there'. I think it might be what you're looking for.

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_astral_consciousness/a_breath_counting_deal-t38368.0.html;msg314707#msg314707

I don't understand this method

yesterday when i went to sleep i kept my forearms up so if i fall asleep they would start falling and i would wake up, then i did the Mini stapler's technique and after about 30 min i was still awake so i put my arms down while still doing that technique and in about 1 min i fell asleep 

Ok i will try this technique tonight. btw if wake up at 7 am what time do you think i should go to sleep ?

That's understood, but this is for temporal relief. Also, there's been some difficulty astral projecting, do you think you might be able to do this?

no I'm having trouble astral projecting myself. I can't even get sleep paralysis.

The problem is spiritually sensing spirit obsessors all the time

By not sensing them they're not going to go away. you should just astral project and talk to them.

Why would you want that ?

Use an alarm clock to wake you up during the night. Place it outside your reach so you will have to get up actually to turn off the bastard when it goes off  .

I can wake up whenever I want I don't need an alarm clock, but when I wake up I cant stay awake I just fall asleep in seconds :/

I usually try to AP when going to sleep, I concentrate on my chest rising and falling but I always fall asleep within about 2 minutes. i think i get enough sleep. On weekdays I go to sleep at 23:30-0:00 and wake up at 06:50 on weekends I go to sleep at the same time and wake up at around 10:00. If I try do do it when I wake up it's just completely impossible to stay awake, I can wake up 5 times during the night but I just fall asleep in 5 seconds. I don't do I often at daytime because there's usually other people in the house (they would think I'm crazy) but when I do I usually don't fall asleep (sometimes I do) and nothing happens. Any advice ?

Bah... enjoy your life however you wish.  You only get to live this life once. 

are you saying we cant reincarnate ?

Just google it, kids can read too

If you wait when the sp is over, the opportunity to ap will end as well.  When you get sp you need to get out of your body as there is a short time limit.  If you take too long to get out, the ap will end.  It is better to try to do an ap technique to get out.   If that does not work you can spiritually get out of your body.  If you move your physical body the ap will end.

so do i imagine climbing a rope after relaxing or should i wait until i get sleep paralysis ? (i never get it, never did)

and how do i spiritually get out of my body ?

when trying to astral project i relax for about 5 min until im completely relaxed and then i try to clear my mind and then try to concentrate on my breathing or that high pitched noise (idk wtf it is) and i can do that for up to about 2 hours but nothing happens, i dont get sleep paralysis. Last week instead of doing that and waiting for sleep paralysis i just did the rope technique and after about 15 min i began feeling something happening to my body and after about 1 min that high pitched sound was VERY loud, i couldn't hear anything else just that sound. after about 10 min i could still move my body :/ every AP technique says that  i need to do the technique after i get SP soooooooooo

WHAT ?? there is a HUGE difference between them. lucid dreaming is just knowing that you are dreaming and being able to control everything in that dream. astral projection is when you get out of your physical body with your astral body/soul and travel in different dimensions and planes and it is ALL REAL