Messages

Dude, read the Astral Faqs section and Permanent Astral topics section before asking a bunch of newbie questions.  Pay special attention to anything about phasing by Frank.  

We can't spell it out every time.

Han

PS. congratulations on getting to FZ, you made a big step!

Are there DVDs of this show?

Are you really an Anarchist?  If so, is it for economic reasons or rebellious reasons?

Han

LET ME IN... If you have read my introduction in this forum, you will have seen my experience

I didn't see any experience to makes you worthy of joining the penta5 group.  PM me the plans you have that weaponize the Astral either and I may consider your initiation into Penta5 as a "private contractor".  However, you will still not have privileges to topics I deem sensitive in nature.

Respond soon because this reply will be deleted in 2 days.

Han Solo

should of had your eyes on the road and not your seat belt!

Han

I posted something about this here, before this discussion took place.

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=19324&postdays=0&postorder=asc&&start=110

Not my first post on the page, the second post of mine.

The coalition forces of Rainbow Brite and the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles will save us from the axis of aliens and reptoids

laughed my as* of at this comment  

Han

In my experiences in Focus 2, or the "Astral", I have confirmed what Frank has said.  Since your name is MJ-12 I bet you believe in Aliens and what New Agers have said about them residing in the Astral.  Well, I have fought the "Reptilians" in Focus 2, only to wake up and remember that I had listened to Coast to Coast Am that day and some nut was talking about them.  Focus 2 is where thoughts=action, and any preconceived notions will manifest.

Also, most alien abductions are Focus 2 experiences.

Han

Come on guys the second link has written in its sub heading "Spreading rumors, half-truths, and misinformation since 1789"

The photo is photoshoped all to Hell

Definatley not true in my opinon, seems kinda like an Onion story www.theonion.com.

Han

Sounds like FZ in Frank's Phasing model, or the 3d blackness.  Also used to be called The Void.

Han

I wake up Saturday morning to be greeted by the sun rudely intruding into my bedroom to welcome me to a new day.  It was now very hot in my room and I was hung over, probably still a little tipsy, from partying on Friday night/Saturday morning.  So, I decided to retreat in to the darkened recesses of my basement to continue my sleep.  Once there, I layed down and thought "why don't I try and phase?", but quickly dismissed it due to my condition.  I thought I am just going to lay down and see what happens and I will be open to anything, vaguely aware that It would be neat to write a report on phasing while hungover.
------------->
I am getting lost in vast depths of consciousness but maintaining awareness by a thread, until I feel the electric vibes that one associates with the traditional OBE experience.  I think "don't panic" just let them happen.  I feel the swaying "exist sensations", next thing I remember is i am racing upstairs to open the door to see if I can fly.  I open the door and there is snow outside.  I think to myself "It has to be like 90 degrees outside, why would there be snow".  All of a sudden I am in the back drive of my house and it is perfect weather out.  I decide to try and fly to no avail, so I think to myself "I really don't even care about flying, I want to go to Focus 2, then Focus 3".  I say "out loud" I want to go to focus 2" I am feeling movement, then I feel the "Vibes" in my physical body.
---------->
I let them happen to me and while they are happening I am trying to think of a rundown.  All of a sudden I am in some kind of refinery trying to get out due to the fact an arsonist has set a fire.  I am running around trying to get out when I run in to, and grab by the throat, the arsonist.  It was furry little creature, with sharp teeth, that said it was a chubacabra! I thought to my self "now that I got that handled I am going to try and phase into F3, or FZ, by making the slats appear.  Like magic the slats appeared to show darkness on the other side, so I transitioned into FZ.  Floating around, in a pretty groggy state, I thought what should i do in here.  I remembered in one of Franks post that he said to visualize Negs to prove to yourself that they exist here "in the imagination".  Before I had a chance to think otherwise my mind says very reluctantly "MONSTER..." (THANKS FRANK ) then I feel the body vibes again of F1
----------->
I "wake up" to music blaring in my headphones(?)(that weren't on) and a distinct impression of something "dark" behind the couch were I am laying.  I start "saying/thinking" "Cancel, Cancel" (old Silva mind control technique) wake up, wake up.  I wake up upstairs to be surrounded by creatures, so I think " I will destroy them and then phase out of Focus 2".  After some attempts at energy balls that didn't work I find a method to destroy them.  
---------->

I am some old lady's kitchen and I look around at the drab setting and think "this is boring, I am going into FZ again".  So I stare AT the wall looking for the slats to appear.  Nothing.  Clicked out.  

(Reason: I don't think it worked this time due to the fact I didn't use the Fuzzy vision technique and instead zoomed in on the wall looking for some change to take place)

Problems:

1.  All these experiences felt VERY dreamlike, but I am not about to dismiss them due to all the control I had in my thinking processes regarding "out of body" /phasing techniques.  Body vibes were real enough.

2.  The environments where not crystal clear and very shadowy.  I have had lucid dreams with AMAZING clarity in both the visual aspects and mind clarity.  These were of lesser quality. I am more used to the phasing approach which may afford me more mental clarity.  Are all "OBE's" like this.  Is there any real difference besides the view of projecting inside/outside the mind/body?

3.  The total, almost instantaneous, ease of the transition into FZ from focus 2, using the slats method, left me feeling it was a fraudulent transition on my minds part.

4.  My demeanor when projecting by phasing is that of a scientist.  Very detached in the focus 2 environment.  However, in these experiences I fell into the "Alice in Wonderland" effect and would have to pull myself out of these settings with a great amount of effort.

5.  Do you feel the body "buzz" when phasing?  I never have before.  Although I knew what it was like due to my run in with sleep paralysis.

6.  Is this what Frank talks about when he says that mystics, OBE'rs, wade through the Astral sludge?

7.  Will I gain more clarity with more experience, in both Phasing and OBE.  If not, then authors should tell their readers how foggy and dreamlike these experiences are.  I know they are both Focus 2 so should feel the same, but I have had amazing clarity in my lucid dreams before.

8.  Does Focus 3 still contain this "dreamlike" quality?


Han

PS. Socialist are like mystics, they live in a dream world!

All I was saying here was that mystics base alot of their theory around Focus 2 experiences.  It is kind of a self fulfilling theory because if others go to focus 2 with these preconceived notions then they will be confirmed in Focus 2.  So these theories are kind of circular in nature.

Han

come on guys, I got this poem by looking up "awful poems" in google.  I thought this poem was so awful I laughed my As* off at work today.


Han

I AM.

              You AREN'T.

Not yet, anyway.

               But you CAN BE

If you take my Workshop.


Han

Spirits and crystals and UFOs
So many mysteries nobody knows.
I went to dig crystals in Arkansas
And boy was I filled with awe.
We beat on drums, told stories and sang
And the voices of angels rang.
Women from Venus and men from Mars,
Sweat Lodges and seminars.
Devas and faeries and sprites and elves
Got us in touch with our higher Selves.
Buddha and Christ, Zoroaster and Ra
All were with us in Arkansas.
Totems of Eagle and Wolf and Flea
Great Spirit spoke through them to me.
Spirits of Chigger and Fly and Tick
Lyme Disease is only Karmic.
Angels and faeries and UFOs,
I saw them all and I'm thrilled to my toes.
Spirits and crystals, I'm so elated
'Cause everything is interrelated


Pouring my heart out,
Han

I think this is along the same logical lines:

http://www.somethingawful.com/learning_triangle/index.htm

HAN

I know a good website for AP:

www.astralpulse.com

What you should do is not read the the Astral FAQ's or Permanent topics.  Also, don't read OBE discussions or Astral consciousness section.  Stick to the Metaphysics section, then ask them how to Astrally project.  There's where you will find your answer.

HAN

I started to laugh so hard I couldn't breathe when it said Cold air=mountains, Mountains=triangle.  

A modern-day Monty Python

My favorite comedy is the Holy Grail, but I just saw the old BBC film Hitch Hikers Guide to The Galaxy and thought alot of that humor was brilliant.  I'm a sap for the intellectual British humor.

Han

That would be so awesome, to create an anime world! Or video game world! And then to live in it!  But I think it would take an awful lot of time and energy...

wow.. slow down there.  This "type" of thing is what is going on with Astral Pulse Island.  About the anime world...that might take a GREAT deal of concentration (I am always hesitant to say it is impossible, ESPECIALLY in Focus 2).  

For the concentration and time involved there are many REAL benefits you can accomplish in Focus 2.  You are "playing" in the depths of your subconscious mind.  I am sure there are some things you might want to change about yourself.  I know when I am able to reach Focus 2 reliably, rather than sporadically,  I will go into Focus 2 with blue print and a whole construction crew.   I will build a better me.

However, do what ever you want when you are there, but just get there.

Han

They said I never cried for examples, I would hug everyone and people said I could never be labeled. I never quite fit in, until I ran into the rave scene and from there, people are extremely friendly and regardless of your affinity to life, they don't judge you.

You sure it isn't just the Ecstasy?  J/K

Han

In focus 2 it may be possible if you concentrate enough on this desired outcome.  

Han
"super duper super sayan"

"Out On A Limb" is supposed to be a documentary about McClaine introduction into the "New Age" movement.  Greatest Hits:  Surlie get "past life regressed" and guess what, yep you guessed it, she is Cleopatra!  What do you know, another person who in a past life was Cleopatra.  More like Miss Cleo if you ask me!  In another scene her car starts driving by itself.  The Blither goes on and on.

Han

I was waiting for someone to rent the movie and come back with thier guns out. (ticked off).  It is a political suspense movie-where a guy goes into the astral to kill people.   it is BY NO means a "how to" guide, but still an interesting look at focus 2.

I was just having fun, but don't want you to waste your money on a 2 disk dvd.

Han

Interesting discussion on regulation (sounds boring, but is not)

mms://www.harrybrowne.org/harrybrowne/04-01-03a.mp3

mms://www.harrybrowne.org/harrybrowne/04-01-03b.mp3

First, I am just taking a fun stab at Frank here, and its nothing personal.  Plus some of you kiddies out there may learn something. To start off with here is a segment of Franks newsletter:

Speaking about payment, I have been looking into methods of payment
for the Virtual Classroom subscriptions, which will need to be via
the usual credit or debit cards, of course. I have looked into
various services but all are extremely expensive in terms of the
commissions they charge for this kind of "online" business as they
see it. It would appear that if you live in the USA then getting
online Merchant Accounts is much easier. I was accepted by one
company in France where I live but they wanted a hefty 10%
commission plus 1.5 euro per transaction! This is just daft in my
view. With 20 people in the class each paying 16 Euro a week for
their teaching I would be paying around 140 euro a month in
transaction fees alone! This may not sound a lot of money to
perhaps many people, but as I said in the last newsletter, I live a
very frugal life and 140 Euro keeps me in pasta for about 8 months!

Anyhow, after doing a bit of digging I discovered that PayPal's
fees are quite reasonable for this kind of thing, so they are the
payment service I will be using. To be able to accept credit and
debit cards directly I need to open a business Merchant Account
with PayPal and for that I will need to open a basic business bank
account together with a Visa card so I can eventually "verify" the
new PayPal account and get it all up and running properly. All this
form-filling, financial stuff, registering new businesses, and all
that jazz is a bit over my head. So after going around in circles
the past couple of weeks, I have decided to place the whole thing
in the very capable hands of a total financial wizard and great
friend of mine, Jim Ashley, who shall be dealing with all the
financial side of things on my behalf. I don't want to start
getting embroiled in accounting and things like that. I want to
concentrate 100% of my time advising people on what I feel is the
best way forward in terms of their development. So Jim will be
dealing with the PayPal, financial and accounts side of things from
the UK.

This has taken a little while to organise but everything will be
ready in about a week to ten days. Like I say, I live a very frugal
life and I'm not really part of the capitalist machine, as it were.
I don't have lines of credit and a wallet full of credit cards,
loans and all that jazz. But Jim will soon have it all sorted and
we'll be up and running in no time. Problem is, living in France as
I do, the business bureaucracy in France is horrendous. I speak
French good enough to make myself understood from day to day, but
nowhere near good enough to understand the intricacies of French
business legalities and procedures. Being English I have the right
to set up the new business in England where everything is much more
understandable, as it is a liberal market economy like the USA.
Regulations tend to be fairly straightforward, so that's why I have
decided to fiscally locate the financial side of things in the UK.

Now that you have it in context, lets take it a step at a time and learn something about this EVIL CAPITALIST MACHINE!

It would appear that if you live in the USA then getting
online Merchant Accounts is much easier. I was accepted by one
company in France where I live but they wanted a hefty 10%
commission plus 1.5 euro per transaction

It is much easier in the USA because of COMPETITION.  You see, competition lowers prices and increases the quality of service, so it is natural for commission fees to be lower because banks are scrambling to get business.  France is more socialist, so therefore the State limits competition and prices rise for business, which pass that on to consumers, and this limits the growth in the economy hurting everybody.  Ever wonder why France and Germany have 10% + unemployment?  They usually do this in the form of REGULATION (which you discuss later).  All regulation does is protect the established businesses from start ups there by decreasing competition, in effect giving established businesses semi monopoly privileges.

So, what does Frank do?  He chooses Paypal, the new online form of completion to banks.  Frank choose Paypal because of the savings benefit for his business/him.  Good job Frank, that was a great capitalist decision!  What was the detriment?  You see in a highly competitive market some win and some lose, so who lost?  The banks in France, and France's economy, because they could not compete.  Why couldn't they compete?  They are not allowed to compete due to GOVERNMENT socialist regulation.  Money moves, but in this case France's economy lost due to bad politics.

I don't have lines of credit and a wallet full of credit cards,
loans and all that jazz. But Jim will soon have it all sorted and
we'll be up and running in no time. Problem is, living in France as
I do, the business bureaucracy in France is horrendous. I speak
French good enough to make myself understood from day to day, but
nowhere near good enough to understand the intricacies of French
business legalities and procedures

This is along the same point as above.  As government gets bigger, like socialist France, bureaucracy gets bigger.  As Bureaucracy gets bigger the cost to the citizens dramatically rise.  Also, big established business loves this due to the fact that every piece of red tape put up protects them from start ups that could compete with them, and lower cost (profit margins) to consumers.  Most people just throw up their hands because the cost of starting a new business will wipe out any profit they could hope to gain in the immediate future.  Thus, economies stagnate.

Being English I have the right to set up the new business in England where everything is much more understandable, as it is a liberal market economy like the USA. Regulations tend to be fairly straightforward, so that's why I have decided to fiscally locate the financial side of things in the UK  

However, this is one capitalist alternative, and that is incorporate or start a business in a place that is business friendly and has less red tape.  Ever wonder why so many businesses are incorporated in the small island of Bermuda?  This is just a natural action because the flow of money, like energy current, takes the path of least resistance.   What did Frank do? DING DING DING! That's right, took the proper, and capitalistic, way around this barrier and incorporated in the UK where it is easier.  Believe me, even if you understood the language better you would have still located in the UK due to the cost, and time, of setting up a business in France. (I could have done it better, but whatever)  Don't blame the companies for incorporating overseas, blame your GOVERNMENT!

Like I say, I live a very frugal life and I'm not really part of the capitalist machine, as it were

Now you are, and thank God! (or focus 4?)  If you hadn't taken the capitalistic, and proper, way of setting up your business WE ALL would suffer.  You lowered prices for people who will be using your service and ensured the probability of your business staying around longer.  What is the alternative?  Pay more to get your business started, so we can pay more to use it, in order to support sniveling, do nothing, GOVERNMENT BUREAUCRATS! NO THANKS!

liberal market economy like the USA

HA HA HA!  Still had to laugh at this.  When USA rose to power it was due to the free market.  However, now it is NO SUCH THING!  Big business lobbies for new regulation in order to eliminate competition, and politicians love to stay in power=Big oppressive government.  Not as big as our counterparts in France, but getting there.  

"Government is force, it is like fire, a dangerous servant, and a frightening master"  George Washington

Long live Frank, our beloved Capitalist!!

Han

PS.  Socialist are like mystics, they live in a dream world!

There was a Hollywood "documentary" made in the 80's called DREAMSCAPE.  It is basically a how to guide, but it also has a plot.

The movie stars Dennis Quad.

Han

Honestly, affirmations kinda suck.  Try NLP, self hypnosis, silva mind control, or Phasing to focus 2 or Fz to change things about yourself.  These are MUCH more powerful because you are at deeper levels of mind and you can make changes to your subconscious.  

Han