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Greetings Frank!

Great post http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/images/icon_Smile.gif" border=0> Thanks for that and your time!

I need to go through the details, but one thing is immediately apparent, and that is the great importance of symbolism and imagination in Astral work.

As I said in a previous post, imagination isn't something that people have a figment of exactly - imagination is an attribute of the Spirit, necessary for creating out of the Astral substance. Imagination becomes the reality.

Symbolism is also very powerful - indeed - much of the bible was originally symbolism, which the writers took literally as occuring in the material world. But people do project through symbols of e.g. the elements, or realms which have fixed symbols such a silver cauldron, golden apples etc..

Thanks again.

with best regards,

Adrian.

Greetings!

I look forward to Frank's new thread on this - it would be excellent for a new forum under poll as well - but the jury is out on that one.

We are advised from many sources that imagination is extremely important and powerful  - particularly for Astral work, but also in higher levels.

That does not mean that everything is a figment of your imagination, I think to that extent that imagination is probably wrongly interpreted. A better expression might be "conceptualising" - but any way, imagination it is a way of communicating intentions and bringing about desires in a way.

Communication in non-physical realms is significantly by imagery, telepathy etc., and of course it is also the language of creating out of Astral matter.

All in all anyway, true imagination is very important, and I look forward to Frank's words of wisdom on this one http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/images/icon_Smile.gif" border=0>

With best regards,

Adrian.

Greetings Density,

Thank you for your comments, and I agree with you. I have accordingly expanded the scope of the proposed forum to include all  products and methods relating to "Consciousness" including Hemi-Sync, meditation, LD etc..

With kind regards,

Adrian.

[http://www.brainwave-entrainment.com]

Greetings RalphM and everyone!

A business that has an excellent reputation, and operated by a person who has a reputation for not only being very good at what he does, but extremely friendly and helpful as well is Brainwave Mind Voyages:

http://www.brainwave-entrainment.com

I think these CD's are around $15 each, and have an excellent reputation - here is a typical testimony from their feedback page:

"I have used brainwave CD's by a company called Brain Sync, the Monroe Institute's Hemi-Sync (which was very expensive - did not produce results - and is kindergarten compared to your CDs. I really like your Trance Induction Lucid Dream CD the best. I think the CD was well thought out and has everything one would need to have a lucid dream or an obe." -mike.t

Obviously I have no association with these people, but I would be very interested indeed to hear feedback from people here should they try any of these products.

With knd regards,

Adrian.

Greetings Frank!

Thanks again - it is difficult I know to describe these things, and I appreciate your patience!

Just talking around this, - the etheric (in the case of an RTZ projection) and Astral bodies are really finer duplicates of the physical, initially at least, so it would not be surprising that they felt the same from an OBE perspective.

This must be the case I guess, because after physical death, which after all can be likened to a permanent OBE, the person often does not perceive any difference in the reality of their body until they achieve that realisation, and that is often a problem as to why Souls can become "earth bound".

My point of question however is that raising consciousness is not an OBE, but an altered state of awareness, or to use a Monroe analogy - focus.

I suppose the other issue is how real you would seem to the beings of the Astral world in an OBE and raised level of consciousness or "focus" respectively, if indeed there is any difference.

Tricky things to get the mind around http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/images/icon_Smile.gif" border=0>

But the main thrust of my questions are in trying to ascertain whether the "Focus" approach is more meaningful than the OBE approach.

Thanks again for your patience!

With kind regards,

Adrian.

Greetings Frank!

The Astral matrix or "silver cord" is real enough. It is what sustains life between the Astra-Mental and physical bodies while OBE as it where.

The Astra-Mental body also "leaves" at night while asleep, and permanently at physical death,  and the cord serves the same purpose. So I personally do not think that there is much doubt about the Astral matrix, or the fact in an OBE the Astra-Mental body actually does separate from the physical.

But this is the point I am getting at - is this so called "Focus 27" via "Focus 10" actually an OBE, or rather a raised level of conscious awareness to that Astral level? I suppose Clairvoyance is another example of Astral awareness without the OBE. The real question in this case is - if one is is interacting with the Astral on the basis of a raised level of consciousness, how does the experience differ between that and an OBE.

Also, and if you are not sure of which is occuring yet via Focus 10, notwithstanding the above, how does the level of interaction, qulaity of the experience and in particular memory recall differ?

Apologies again for pressing this one, but it seems to me that the Focus 10 CD is alot more than getting to the "body asleep, mind awake" state, which, after all, is a pre-requisite of most OBE's?

Thanks again.

With kind regards,

Adrian.

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Greetings Frank!

You are very correct of course in what you say in that we are a composite of physical, astral and mental bodies in broad terms - there are others as well, but lets just work with those for this purpose.

In an OBE, according to my understanding, the astral body (or a copy of it) containing the awareness actually leaves the physical body, and which is maintained by the Astral matrix - the silver cord until they reunite.

In a meditative state however, where one is "raising" ones consciousness, no such projection takes place it would seem, but rather the base level of consciousnes is "focussed" at a higher level, and can interact at that level. In the latter case, as their is no physical separation if that is correct, then all of the problems associated with OBE do not occur - it is much more stable.

That is what I am trying to understand - the relative "quality" and "reliability"of the OBE on the one hand, against the focussed higher state of consciousness on the other hand.

How does that reconcile against your own experience? It is evident from your postings that the "focussed" Astral work is far superior to the OBE?

With kind regards,

Adrian.

[Originally posted by Frank:]

quote:Originally posted by Frank:

With a little practice, it becomes fairly easy to project from the Focus 10 state. You don't really need all the rest because, if you can get to Focus 10 and project, then the next step is to make contact with an Astral guide or two. They will be able to help you *far* more than some CD.

Here is where I am getting confused or just dense http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/images/icon_Smile.gif" border=0>

Are talking about getting to "Focus 10" and then converting that into a regular OBE and all of its inherent problems with reality fluctuations, memory recall etc., or rather continuing to raise the consciousness to the Astral (Focus 27 in Monroe speak) in a trance state as it were (for want of a better analogy), and participating from an altered state without the OBE? I get the impression from reading the Monroe marketing stuff that this is the case.

If the latter, I am sure it would be a vast improvement over OBE, due to the increased objectivity, participation and most importantly full memory recall. That is why I was asking about working with your guide in OBE v "Focus 27".

Apologies gain for pressing this one - but I regard it as extremely important.

With kind regards,

Adrian.

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Greetings Frank!

Thanks again for this excellent information!!!

Are you able to meet and interact with your Astral guide (Harath?) from a Focus 10 state, and potentially carryout such tasks as soul retrieval such as you desribed before?

Or are the CD's more of a communication tool than OBE alternative?

Clearly, if the same or better level of interaction and sense of "being there" can be attained from a level of awareness/consciousness, rather from  than the more volatile/subjective OBE state,  this is very important.

Thanks for your patience!

With best regards,

Adrian.

Greetings Frank!

Yes, I have to say that Monroe does seem somewhat commercial, which is why I haven't used their products or listed their web sites. It looks like a typical sell-up type thing to me. A bit like those Linguaphone things http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/images/icon_Smile.gif" border=0>

But of course it is the true value in the context of what we discuss here that I am interested in most, and thanks for your comments - most interesting!

If I understand you correctly, are you saying that Wave 1 CD1 gets you to that pivotal stage of consciousness where you can make your own choice? Or specifically, could you raise your awareness from there to the mid to high Astral of your own accord - i.e. without voice or hemi-sync guidance?

If so - it seems worth it.

I don't want to take much of your time, but I am particularly interested in this quote:

quote:

At Focus 10, you are right on the brink between human physical consciousness and the start of the Astral. This state has made it possible for me to contact guides with a *much* higher degree of reliability and, for the past couple of months, I have been practising "channelling" information while at the Focus 10 state, again with excellent results.

Are you saying that you are attaining better results than OBE, and also, what sort of information are you channeling and from whom?

Thanks as always.

With best regards,

Adrian.

Greetings Frank

There is another issue actually.

Usually, in order for Astral life to perceive and interact with you, it is necessary to present yourself in a body of the same density - Astral density that is in this case. Mental projection is allows for far greater scope and reach than Astral projection, but it seems that Astral based humans in the Soul cannot always perceive a Mental body or Spirit.

I am not sure that the Monroe Gateway encompasses these concepts at all, but is more geared to the level of concsiousness involved.

Nevertheless - this is important resrearch for sure.

Could I just ask, in view of the price, is there a single Gateway CD that will allow full Astral level interaction (focus?)?

Oh yes - and as Oliver enquired - what do these CD's sound like? Is is just alpha, beta and gamma frequencies with pink sound, or does one get to enjoy Dolphin sounds and the like?  

With best regards,

Adrian.

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Greetings Frank!

Yes, I am aware that you have been studying this area, and hoped you would respond - in particular because you have an exceptional perspective on both Astral projection and focussed meditation or awareness shall we call it.

Also of course, by projection of the mind, you are not, I don't think, restricted to the Astral levels as is the case in Astral projection due to the density of the Astral body.  

Another possibility of course (unless you have already in Astral travelling) is to meet the Beings of the elements - the Undines, Salamanders, Sylphs and Gnomes - whcih of course are symbolic in appearance, but very real.

I do think this isvery significant. I wouldn't like to think of OBE's being "old hat", but after all, the whole experience must be as useful as possible, and that means memorable as well.

This is actually precisely the sort of thing I want to discuss in Spiritual Truths, because it is opening up a whole new dimension as it were, without the mysticism, and whereby many valuable lessons and experiences might be acquired.

I would like to think that it is possible to enjoy the benefit of these experiences without hemi-sync technology. In fact, I am sure that is possible, it is just a case of how.

I would be extremely interested for you to contrast the relative experiences of OBE and Monroe Gateway, and in particular - can you still meet your guide for example and enjoy the same expereinces and level of feedback and memory.

Withe best regards,

Adrian.

Hi Justine,

I can't understand that - yet anyway.

Lots have people have registered and a few have posted in the forums, and alot have browsed the site generally.

Is anyone else having problems?

With kind regards,

Adrian.

Greetings,

The Astral levels or sphere are actually the lowest vibrational levels,  collectively speaking, but of course have vibrational levels within them, which I suppose are analogous to the Monroe "focus" levels.

Above the Astral realms, which cannot be exceeded by Astral projection due to the density of the Astral body, are nine further spheres. In fact, the idea of spheres or realms is somewhat symbolic as everything is more like a vibrational continuum from the highest down to the lowest. The very lowest is the material, physical world which is still a vibrational level, and immediately above that, relatively speaking is Malkuth, the Astral planes.

When the residents of the Astral realms finally shed their Astral body - when material things no longer have any significance, then they continue in their pure Mental body in Spirit, and ascend according to vibration/ perfection.

There are various representations of these spheres, but the Kabbalistic representation is  the "Tree of Life" which is as follows:

Malkuth (the entire Astral sphere)
Yesod
Hod
Netzach
Tiphareth
Geburah
Gedulah
Binah
Chokmah
Kether

Malkuth, or the Astral planes, are the desire planes where Souls still have a material view of existence. In order to progress to the higher, and more beautiful spheres, Spirits have to arrive at the realisation that the materialism is an illusion, and then they can progress in the Spirit on the infinite path.

With kind regards,

Arian.

[Flint gives some examples of the ludicrous theories put forward by these psychic researchers. One was that the voices were not real but produced by a combination of hypnotic power on his part coupled with mass auditory hallucinations on the part of the sitters. This was disproved when the voices were recorded (Flint 1971: 167). Another theory was that Flint was a ventriloquist. This was disproved when a throat microphone was attached to his throat so that the slightest sound made through his larynx would be magnified enormously while observers watched him through an infrared telescope (Flint 1971: 168). When they could come up with no further explanations one of the psychic researchers put forward the idea that Flint could talk through his stomach (Flint 1971: 163).For those who, being unable to think of any other explanation, allege fraud Flint had this to say:It has been hinted that I might have a two-way voice channel to another room where accomplices mimic the voices of the departed or that I might conceal tape-recorders which play prepared messages from the dead. There is no end to the ingenious tricks which have been thought up by those determined not to believe and who more often than not have never even had a sitting with me...I could also ask these stubborn cynics how these supposed accomplices of mine however skilled their mimicry contrive to produce the recognizable voice of a wife or a husband or other dead relative of a sitter who is as likely as not newly arrived from Australia, India or Timbuktu. I do not however waste my precious energies bandying words with skeptics who are as ill-informed as they are prejudiced.(Flint 1971: 170).One expert who did investigate Leslie Flint and thoroughly vouched for his authenticity was Professor William R Bennett, Professor of Electrical Engineering at Colombia University in New York City. As engineers are highly practical people, not usually given to over-active imaginations, his testimony has high credibility:My experience with Mr Flint is first hand; I have heard the independent voices. Furthermore, modern investigation techniques not available in earlier tests corroborate previous conclusions by indicating that the voices are not his. But to be thorough, one should consider the possibility of live accomplices... This suggestion became untenable for me during his visit to New York in September 1970, when, in an impromptu seance in my apartment, the same voices not only appeared but took part in conversations with the guests (Flint 1971: 220).]

Greetings,

The problem with most scientists is that they start and end their research on the basis of the material world. Their education and life's work does not allow, for the most part, for the possibility of other dimensions of reality beyond the three they are accustomed to. In fact, I think that probably their minds revolt at the prospect, because the mental turmoil would be so great, it is much simpler to stick with what they have always known, and make everything fit as if it were fact.

An excellent example of this is of the direct voice medium, Leslie Flint, who over a great many years was subject to every possible test from every possible sort of so called scientific researcher.  I have included an extract below, but before anyone thinks that I have a problem with scientists, I would like to point out that I used to be one at the start of my working life and for quite some years - and organic chemist.

Extract follows:

Flint gives some examples of the ludicrous theories put forward by these psychic researchers. One was that the voices were not real but produced by a combination of hypnotic power on his part coupled with mass auditory hallucinations on the part of the sitters. This was disproved when the voices were recorded (Flint 1971: 167). Another theory was that Flint was a ventriloquist. This was disproved when a throat microphone was attached to his throat so that the slightest sound made through his larynx would be magnified enormously while observers watched him through an infrared telescope (Flint 1971: 168). When they could come up with no further explanations one of the psychic researchers put forward the idea that Flint could talk through his stomach (Flint 1971: 163).

For those who, being unable to think of any other explanation, allege fraud Flint had this to say:

It has been hinted that I might have a two-way voice channel to another room where accomplices mimic the voices of the departed or that I might conceal tape-recorders which play prepared messages from the dead. There is no end to the ingenious tricks which have been thought up by those determined not to believe and who more often than not have never even had a sitting with me...I could also ask these stubborn cynics how these supposed accomplices of mine however skilled their mimicry contrive to produce the recognizable voice of a wife or a husband or other dead relative of a sitter who is as likely as not newly arrived from Australia, India or Timbuktu. I do not however waste my precious energies bandying words with skeptics who are as ill-informed as they are prejudiced.(Flint 1971: 170).

One expert who did investigate Leslie Flint and thoroughly vouched for his authenticity was Professor William R Bennett, Professor of Electrical Engineering at Colombia University in New York City. As engineers are highly practical people, not usually given to over-active imaginations, his testimony has high credibility:

My experience with Mr Flint is first hand; I have heard the independent voices. Furthermore, modern investigation techniques not available in earlier tests corroborate previous conclusions by indicating that the voices are not his. But to be thorough, one should consider the possibility of live accomplices... This suggestion became untenable for me during his visit to New York in September 1970, when, in an impromptu seance in my apartment, the same voices not only appeared but took part in conversations with the guests (Flint 1971: 220).

Extract ends.

Regards,

Adrian.

Greetings Lucid Dancer

I am not sure why you are seeing those problems with the Spiritual Truths site. It loads for me just fine.

But, of course, I do want to ensure everyone is able to access the site. Is anyone else having any problems please? And if so, if Lucid and those having problems could provide as much details as possible it would be most useful.

Thank you very much indeed.

With kind regards,

Adrian.

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Greetings everyone!

First of all let me state my position on this - all guns should be illegal - they are designed for one purpose only ultimately - to maim or destroy life.

Now before some think I am anti-gun fanatic, let me say that while I lived in the UK  - which I did for most of my life, I legally owned a range of handguns, mostly of the magnum and semi-auto variety, and used to manufacture my own ammo - of course I was fully licensed for this. To me it was just a sport - target and combat shooting, and one which I enjoyed.  I was never happy with the fact that they are weapons of destruction, but only saw the sporting side.

Then came that absolutely horrific incident in Dunblane, Scotland, when a person who legally owned handguns burst into the local Primary School and shot dead 16 infants and their teacher and wounded many others. I was absolutely distraught about that tragedy - especially having three young sons myself around the same age as those innocent victims of the tragedy.

It also made me realise what guns can really do, and I gave up my guns in disgust, and will never own hold them again. Handguns are still legal here in the Isle of Man - we are not the UK.

But the fact is this - guns are absolutely symbols and weapons of destruction, designed to kill - target shooting does not alter that fact, and killing any life does not justify it either. Self-defense is not an excuse to hold guns, because you simply become a part of the problem - everyone buys guns for "self-defence", and inevitably they get used for aggression.

With the greatest respect to our American friends who quote their constitution - only one law prevails - the Universal one -always.

With kind regards,

Adrian.

[Originally posted by PeacefulWarrior:]

quote:Originally posted by PeacefulWarrior:

One of the first "spiritual truths" I found in this life is that truth itself can be found anywhere...  I know how Adrian feels about religion, you can find some friendly debates between he and I here in the astral pulse (the Lords is my Light, etc.) and I thought we had concluded that religous people such as myself (I am a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints) who see the big pciture and are open to ideas such as OBE, etc.

Greetings Daniel!

Thanks for your comments and observations - they are always appreciated I assure you.

You need not be concerned though. Spiritual Truths is about taking a positive approach to the truth in its own right, and not how it compares to religion.

I absolutely respect religious people of course, and their right to hold their beliefs, but Spiritual Truths is not intended to examine Spiritual issues according to, or by comparison with the churches standpoint, but based on facts, and evidence, or in fact truths in their own rights.

Clearly, alot of truth is open to debate,and interpretation, but the objective and hope is to examine that which is tangible, rather than that which is written in a book of words. And the experience of many people here, Frank for example who's contribution is  greatly valued, is directly substantive and important to the whole aspect of Spiritual Truths in several respects, and is based directly upon incontravertible first hand experience, not dogma.

Many people might revolt against the entire concept of examination of Spiritual truths outside the context of religion, and that is fine. When people realise the significance of these issues, and wish to pursue them, or even to incorporate them into their exising beliefs, then the Spirtual Truths site exists as a resource to assist to the extent an individual finds it useful.

An example of this is to perhaps discuss who was this man "Jesus". Very few, myself included, would deny he existed, or that he had a  profound impact on mankind, but it might be useful to analyse his mission and contrast it with the interpretation and fulfilment of that mission over the centuries. We can do that perfectly well without being negative or disrepectful to religious people - indeed - I would certainly hope we can discuss things in that way.

Another example is the plight of those extremely unfortunate Souls have have just died to the physical world, i.e. "passed over", but linger around cemetaries with their body awaiting "judgement day".  Of course "judgement day" whereby an Archangel arrives and blows his trumpet, never happens, and these poor Souls become caught in the vibrations of the Earth zone. Until these Souls can destroy this "thought form" they have created for themselves over their lifetime, and which often requires  the assistance of Souls/Spirits e.g from the Astral realm, they cannot progress to the level of the Astral that is appropriate to them.

These issues go beyond religion, to the very Soul and Spirit.

With kind regards,

Adrian.

Greetings everyone!

Thanks very much indeed for your comments and observations  http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/images/icon_Smile.gif" border=0>

I have listened to what everyone has to say, and have modified the opening statement somewhat accordingly. Of course, that statement will be replaced as time goes by with material of relevance as it transpires.

I realise that "belief system" and "religion" encompass a multitude of things, and of course it it perfectly possible to embrace a spiritual approach while still being religiously oriented.

So I have left the emphasis against creed, dogma and doctrine, which is what we are really trying to transcend here. I certainly would not want people not to find value in the site due to certain definitions used there.

So how about some discussions over on that site? http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/images/icon_Smile.gif" border=0> It is always the situation with a new site where it is necessary to go from zero to active discussions, and the only way that will happen is with participation!

I welcome everyone on the Spiritual Truths site and here equally of course.

With kind regards,

Adrian.

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Greetings Frank!

It is my pleasure! But yours does sound like a classic case of an entity wanting to use you as a medium if you allow it. It wouldn't surprise me - you will have drawn alot of attention to yourself in your Astral roamings http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/images/icon_Smile.gif" border=0>

Any advanced being is forbidden by universal laws to use another person in this way in the long term against their will. You could block them. But in my opinion it would be much better to make contact to see who is at the door. These situations are much too important to disregard IMO.

My new website focusses very strongly on all  of these issues, and I hope to launch it in the next week or so.

Best regards,

Adrian.

Greetings!

I would just mention that "remote viewing" is not actually visual at all - it is perceptive without imagery.

What you describe is more like clairvoyance.

Best regards,

Adrian.

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Greetings Frank:

I would suggest that your Astral connections might have bought about "mediumistic" tendencies whereby another entity is attempting to use you to convey messages to the material world. This appears to be very much a classic way in which this occurs initially, and can then develop greatly.

If your wife is supportive, or you have a close friend is not sceptical about these things, I would strongly suggest that you allow yourself to go fully into this trance, while your assistant asks questions and records what is said with a recorder. It might be an Astral level spirit, or a much more highly evolved spirit from a higher vibrational level using an astral level body as a transformer, or intermediary if you like.

This is almost exactly how the medium of Silver Birch first experienced his guide (who is a very highly evolved spiritual light being), and many, many other mediums started out this way as well. It is a very great gift.

I am launching a new community website very soon, totally complimentary with this one, and which is much more highly geared towards Spiritual issues - beyond the issues we discuss here to discover and discuss what it all means.

Announcement soon.

Best regards,

Adrian.

[http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/Portal_Links.asp?catid=10&cattitle=]

Greetings!

Thanks for this reference - I have now added the link to this online OBE book to the links database.

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/Portal_Links.asp?catid=10&cattitle=

Best regards,

Adrian.

Greetings Jeff!

I think I read in one of Robert's books that he experienced this problem for quite some time as well.

If I remember, he finally solved it by picking a point on the horizon, and blasting off towards it as fast as he could.

Sometimes it resulted blasting into outer space, but generally eventually resulted in a dimensional/vibrational shift to the Astral.

Some people have/had (Frank?) the converse problem, and project straight to the Astral and not the "real-time zone". I believe it depends on how you exit - i.e. from a waking consciousness/trance/relaxed state, or from a hypnopombic state, e.g. when waking up early in the morning with mind semi-awake, body asleep.

I suggest you read Roberts treatise on OBE downloadable from the file library.

Best regards,

Adrian.

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Greetings Pi and Phi http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/images/icon_Smile_big.gif" border=0>

The Mac is a problem due to the relatively incomplete implementations of its browser technolgy. Netscape is not exactly 100% either - but better.

The Mac browser does not seem to manage attributes such as fonts properly I have been informed by others that have looked into this.

There is nothing that can be done to compensate for the problems with the Mac browser unfortunately. The code that runs this site runs to hundreds of thousands of lines of extremely complex code, and trying to make it work with something like the Mac browser really is impractical.

Just a thought - but what sort of browser is the Mac browser? Isn't Internet Explorer available for the Mac as well?

I would really like to be of more assistance, but as our recent poll survey here highlighted, the majority of users are on IE 6, and a resolution of 1024x768. IE5 down to 800x600 should work fine as well.

With best regards,

Adrian.