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Triss: What is the law of nature? it is difficult to explain the small idiosynchracies (spelling?) of it, but it mostly boils down to do what you must to survive. of course, there are (plenty of) times when this isn't the case (ie. some animals, like dolphins, kill for "fun"), but that is the most general rule that i can think of right now.

How can mankind be outside of nature? mankind is not a part of nature. whether we were created outside of it, or evolved out of it doesn't matter to me. we just aren't a part of it. a human being can forsake their life in the human world and become a part of nature, but most humans wouldn't survive very long if they did this.

Have you considered that your attitude towards your fellow man was or could be responsible for your feelings of alienation from him? my alienation from mankind is because i am different. others on this board feel the same way, though to a lesser extent than what i do. however, i have been forced to learn how to live within the bounds of society. whether i like it or not, i am a human being, plus i have to learn certain things for the future.

~kakkarot

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astral c: art form? heck no. i have done it a couple of times when i was desparetaly low on energy, and a couple of times to try to figure out if someone near me could "do stuff". but i am nice about it; i take only what i need, and what i don't need i put back in the person. the second person i tried pulling energy from, started pulling my energy out of me after i had stopped doing it to her, so i know that it isn't difficult.

also, when i taught my best friend how to use energy, i also taught him how to absorb it from his surroundings, but i didn't tell him any good reason why he shouldn't. so four months later (next school break) i went home and talked to a couple of new friends he had made who could also use energy. they told me how when he first showed up at their door he was sucking their energy out and he didn't even know how to stop it! boy, did i goof or what? lol. they have taught him how to not drain energy, though, so it is all good  

~kakkarot

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rodentmouse: try moving all of your energy (from lower and upper body) into your stomach, holding it there, and then moving it back out to the rest of your body. do this a few times. hope you feel the difference.

~kakkarot

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i'm not concerned. it's not like they are going to come up to me one day and say "join or die", right?    who cares what they "know" about me? it isn't like they can use it against me. i have safeguards in case of such situations.  

~kakkarot

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fenris: this is what i have seen in my life. unfortunately, most parents (who believe in baptizing babies) don't see baptism as a blessing; they see it as a ritual that must be gone through in order for the child to "be saved". and most priests do "see baptism as an attempt to 'get em while they are young' ". if love and caring are in their belief when they are baptizing their child, then the parents are merely mislead in their thinking as to what baptism is, but they are fully justified in trying to protect their child.

fallnangel77: john 'the baptist' is the first person (that i have ever heard of) to do baptism. if i recall correctly, God told him to do it in preparation for the comming of the 'Chosen One'.

~kakkarot

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maybe it is monitoring you. as in, maybe someone else (ie a mage) created it. or maybe it is just an astral creature that is neutral in its "alignment". don't provoke it and it shouldn't attack you. however, you must also remember that it may (and probably does) have a different definition of provoke than you do. like an animal, it may feel threatened by you moving about in its vicinity. so be careful. if it attacks, try to banish it, or destroy it if neccessary.

but first, try to learn about it, or communicate with it. it may be helpful if you want help from it.

~kakkarot

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when the spirit is dying, so is the body. and by most accounts i have heard (and some accounts that i have experienced), plants have spirits. and when a plant is indoors, it isn't in its natural home. and believe me, when someone is in a place that they hate being in (ie calgary), no matter what conditions might be great, the spirit starts to "die". so it may need to be cheered up, as cainam says.

or maybe it is sick with something and that is why it is dying. does it have bugs attached to its roots that are sucking out all of its nutrients? are you sure the conditions are right for the kind of plants you have? try moving them near an open window that gets plenty of sunlight during the day. try finding a vein/layline of energy and putting it near that.

that's all i can think of for now, but i hope some of the suggestions you get help the plant.  Good luck and happy living.  

~kakkarot

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hah. got you all beat. using energy for 5 years and not had a conscious oobe.  so don't fret people. does it really matter that you haven't oobe'd yet? try doing other things as well, like trying for auric sight, or claurvoyance. don't limit yourself to one thing and then get bummed out when it isn't working. try doing lots of things; maybe some of the skills you learn in other areas will let you oobe consciously.

but most importantly, have fun!    it isn't like you are in a life and death situation, so just relax and treat it as a hobby rather than a job/chore.  

~kakkarot

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hey robert: "As for what happens during a direct mind to mind confrontation with a demon, well, its not a pretty picture..." is this for even the weak demons? i have had a few experiences in my life time (actually a number greater than a few but less than a lot    ) where some sort of spiritual entity has tried to influence my thinking. sometimes i went with it and only realized after the deed was done that it wasn't my idea to do it; other times i realized right away that the thought wasn't mine; and other times i have realized it in the middle of doing it. once i realized what i was doing, i was able to stop each time; and only a few times required lots of effort.

and many of the times that i got control back, there was a brief mental (sometimes spiritual) "war". most of the time it felt as though the entity backed down though rather than being defeated. sometimes though, it was clear that i won the contest of wills. so is it that all demons are too powerful for a human to defeat? or am i just stronger willed than most, or is it more likely that they weren't demons but rather some other form of spiritual being?

cause, most of the times i had the wars i was able to "see" into the general thoughts of the being and i have learned a few things from it; nothing specific, but generalizations about life and whatnot (for instance, demons are old creatures, eternal by some accounts, and so, in their eons of life, they have learned what really matters to them and aren't so wishy-washy in what they do, as humans are).

i don't REALLY need to know, but it would be kinda nice to know. thanks to anyone who replies.

~kakkarot

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so cainam, how about you?

How many books have you checked out of a library?
Have credit card? Ever used for anything?
How many e-mail accounts do you have?
Is all that information fake?
Do you have a phone? Cell Phone? Pager?
Car?
Drivers license?
Tax ID?
Employment records?
High School info?
Collage?
Home owner?
Magazine subscriptions?
Your internet provider?

"inquisitive minds want to know"  

~kakkarot

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so, how old is thoth?

hey cainam, you do realize that if you were to use the bible to do a decent job of trying to figure out the age of the earth, by virtue of geneologies and age guestimates, i came out with an answer that is more like 10,000 years, AT LEAST. so that blows the creationists out of the water too    .

and yet, to blow the scientists out of the water too, it has been proven, via carbon dating (the method that was used to determine that the earth is millions of years old), that the tooth of a living pig was 3 million (or something like that) years old.  

reason and belief are useless, CHAOS IS THE (FUN) WAY TO GO!  j/k.

~kakkarot

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i've had something like that for years too. i just learned to live with it. actually, the sensations i get are little "taps" on my skin, as though something just hit my clothes (or shoes or hair) and that my clothes (or shoes or hair) are hitting my skin. the first hundred or so times i felt it i thought it was actual things falling on me (like off a table or someone flinging it at me or something). but after each and every time i looked for what may have hit me, and i never saw anything. so i started to conclude that it was just my nerves going off at random.

i am still not sure as to what it is, but like with you, cainam, it happens anywhere and anytime; whether i am moving or still, whether others are around or not, etc. just ignore it, it isn't harmful so it shouldn't matter much. just annoying  

~kakkarot

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maybe they are what are sometimes referred to as wind elementals. maybe sylphs. maybe something else.

i don't know but then, neither do the guys getting the videos.  

~kakkarot

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err. wait a minute. this wasn't a debate. it was a cainam asking for information. my bad. sorry.

~kakkarot

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there. all gone  

patience. forget time and just let yourself relax. this is why you should, ideally, have a few hours of free time when you do this. just forget about wanting to do something fast, or wanting to do it slow, just let it happen. don't worry about how long it takes, or how short it takes. ignore the desire to rush into it and just let yourself fall into what seems like an infinite nothingness of peace, where time is irrelavant.

i often find that impatience, and the desire to want to do something as quickly as possible, are good contributors to preventing a trance state.

~kakkarot

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okey dokey.

~kakkarot

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well, philospohy is all well and good, but it is nothing compared to the experience of life.

tyrone: you are wrong. not everyone has the ability to tap all the channels of knowledge. everyone (or at least most people) have the POTENTIAL to learn these abilities, but they do not have them right now. if you don't believe me, then ask your neighbor to make it rain tommorrow. he'll probably tell you you are crazy. and don't try to counter with the idea that 'everyone does have the ability, it's just latent' because that is like saying that everybody can already do everything, it's just that most skills are latent. and that isn't true; there are some people in this world who can genuinly NOT do something, or pick up on some skill, no matter how hard they try or how good of a teacher they have or how long they try or etc. and no, that isn't where organized religions failed; after all, isn't buddism based upon a truth that all can learn, and isn't christianity also based upon the bible (which anyone can pick up and read), and isn't ...? yes, everyone (or at least most) can find out what the truth is, but changing the way things are PERMANENTLY cannot be done by mere weakling like us. and even if it could, why would that change what it is to be a man? it just changed your perception of what a human is.

ides315: thanks for the info.

tyrone: further more, your philosophies are correct only insofar, unfortunately, that both persons (person cursing and person being cursed) are on even power levels, or that the cursee is stronger. after all, if a strong man nailed you to a cross physically, how could you not hang there? it's like a human scientist torturing a lab mouse (sorry ides    ) for his own pleasure, or because the scientist wants revenge from when the mouse bit him.

ides: "God will never give me more... so much faith in me". did that quote come from this forum, cause i think i have said that once or twice, verbally (i know i have thought something like it a few times). no offensive? darn. how about a small one? just kidding. recon isn't offense, though, right? and sabotage isn't offense, is it?  i am really good at confusing people and causing dissidence among "teams", if that may help.

~kakkarot

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Role Playing Types
        The Real Man
The tough macho type who walks up to the attacking dragon and tells him to leave before he gets hurt.

        The Real Roleplayer
The intelligent cunning guy who tricks the constable into letting you all out of prison.

        The Loonie
The guy who will do anything for a cheap laugh, including casting a fireball at ground zero.

        The Munchkin
Need we say more?


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                 PLAYER RELATIONSHIPS
        REAL MEN
Real Men think they're brothers in arms.
Real Roleplayers hide behind them.
Loonies harass them with stupid suggestions.
Munchkins say "I'm a Real Man, too!"
        REAL ROLEPLAYERS
Real Men protect them, on the off chance they may come up with something useful.
Real Roleplayers sigh with relief to know they're not alone, and then get their characters involved in love affairs and death feuds.
Loonies harass them with stupid suggestions.
Munchkins say "I'm a Real Roleplayer, too!"
        LOONIES
Real Men ignore them.
Real Roleplayers sometimes harass them back by taking a stupid suggestion and making it work.
Loonies declare a pie fight at 20 paces . . . and cheat.
Munchkins try to imitate the jokes, and fall flat.
        MUNCHKINS
Real Men attack them on sight.
Real Roleplayers trick them into being cannon fodder.
Loonies make reasonable-sounding suggestions that will get the Munchkin killed in an amusing way.
Munchkins query, "What's a Munchkin?"

-The Original Guide to Munchkinism
(http://www.7t7.de/unterhaltung/rpg/munchkin.html)

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energy is just like a hammer: a tool to do with as one will. one can heal with energy and one can kill with energy. it only matters as to what one would decide to do with it.

there are, however, some forms of energy that are more dangerous to use. not because they are evil in and of themselves, but because they can lead to different patterns of thought or action, can open one up to new experiences that could drive one mad with pleasure or power. for instance, the dark ki isn't evil in itself. it does cause one to want to destroy things, but only if it gets out of hand does it become dangerous (but then, anything that gets out of control is dangerous. "in over your head"), but it can also be used for good purposes (theoretically). one could use it to protect one's friends, or to wage a war, to stop pain, or force oneself to continue doing something even when the body is at the point of dying (naturally, one would want to have a really good reason for pushing oneself to the edge of death, though).

just like a hammer; can build houses or can tear them down. (although it is easier to tear down a house using a wrecking ball    ).

~kakkarot

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the catholic church is not the Church of God. i don't care if i draw flak for this, but in truth, the catholic church has deviated SO far from the teachings in the bible, that the only way a catholic is getting into heaven is by the grace of God. just like everyone else.

baptism is a display to others, but it is SO much more than that to the few people who understand it and go through it for the right reasons.

~kakkarot

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thanks for the vote of confidence ides.

cainam:
How many books have you checked out of a library?  only about 3 or 4 dozen (rarely anything to do with the supernatural)
Have credit card? no
How many e-mail accounts do you have? three or four
Is all that information fake? all except my ligit one at school
Do you have a phone? Cell Phone? Pager? no (the people i am staying with do, but it ain't under my name), no, no.
Car? no
Drivers license? learner's from years ago
Tax ID? probably, but they aren't going to learn much about the REAL me from that
Employment records? yes, but mundane, manual labour jobs only (except for my stay in the military, which is no longer officially recognized  )
High School info? who doesn't?
Collage? university level, private school
Home owner? yeah right. i wish i had that much money.
Magazine subscriptions? none
Your internet provider? no modem on my comp at home, so i have to use school  

like i said, there isn't much on me. for anyone to get to know the REAL me and my real abilities, they would have to do personal survaillance. so i can just fall out through a loop  

~kakkarot

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i'm sorry, i forgot what my sig was in that last post. i thought it was arcanum arcanorum because arcanum arcanorum means Secret of Secrets in latin.

~kakkarot

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well, ya know, when people turn their backs on God so easily, for the sake of their own pleasures, comfort, religions, or whatever, then is it really any wonder why God only helps those who ask him for it? and sometimes not even them?

~kakkarot

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so, ides, does that mean you an all out war might start soon?

tyrone: ok, by creation you meant nature. and, yeah i think that a person's will, combined with enough power, can change many things in this world that are normally considered to be unchangeable. Ya see, i have started to have one way of thinking about the universe that likens it to a programming language; all the code is there, but only someone who knows how to code can change things. anyone who can find the code can look at it and try to guess what it is all about, and trying to change it without knowing what one is doing can cause extensive damage. hence the reason that people need to be careful.

tyrone: as for the thing i promised i would do for you; i hope you are thinking that i'll be trying to change the weather against the forecast, rather than turning "creation" against another. because i was vague in how i said that, i was fairly ambigous in that.

~kakkarot
"The universe if programmed in COBOL; which is why it sucks so much."
~don't know who.

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astral c: "I play around with energy balls and stuff, and with the balls of light at the ends of my body. Expanding and contracting energy is part of learning about what we are capable of doing. Is this what you are talking about?" not quite what i was talking about, but i am sure that that is what ashfo was talking about. as for energy balls, i play around with them, but i can't get them to manifest physically  . oh well. someday soon, hopefully. or not considering my situation with ki    . oh well. "in time, all things heal", right?

~kakkarot
"What's more dangerous than a mage out to conquer the entire world? Why a mage at play, of course"
~from some D&D writer. (i can't remeber who, but you can find it in the book or short stories called, Realms of Valor, at the beginning of the Elminster story).  

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