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Greetings Nate!

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Why the forum insist that my last visit was 04 July 2002? is anyone else getting this too? The last few times I came here the little folders have all been yellow instead of purple. I guess it makes sense that they're all old considering they were three months old last time I was here. weird.   taaa!!!

-Nate

Do you have any idea how BORING immortality can get?! -Defalco

Everyone will be seeing this - including me - in fact you might even find it is 4 August now

This is nothing to do with the server time - that is as accurate as it is possible to be, being synchronised hourly with the official atomic clock - it is *extremely* accurate. You will no doubt have noticed that all other times, e.g. posting times are correct.

The problem is cookies. I have no idea precisely what the problem is yet however. All I know is that the reference date is on the 4th of each month, and it is advancing a month or so every couple of days. My guess is that by the end of the week it will have cycled through all future months, and arrive back in April again - probably the 4th.

I will of course continue to look into this one.

With best regards,

Adrian.

Greetings Mobius!

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I just wanted to know if the live astral chat on the homepage is
still operational?When I first joined there was no problem,just
a click on the chat client button,but now I just get a cream coloured
background which stays blank.Has it been replaced with the
Astral chat forum? or is it something on my computer that is
stopping me from logging onto it?

Thanks for any help

Mobius

The Astral Chat is intended to compliment the other forums here.

I am not sure what the real-time chat facility was or is - it isn't of my doing

Most real-time chat's use IRC with a Java front-end of some description. If there was sufficient demand, we could certainly look into doing this.

With best regards,

Adrian.

Gretings Bitsmart!

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I think it would really be cool to see a category called 'Consciousness.' I am a consciousness hacker and have learned a great deal others may be interested in. I guess this could go in General MP or Integral Psych, though. I believe that space is not the final frontier, I believe that mind is, because Hermetic philosophy states that 'All is mind.'

Just my .02.

bitsmart -
information illumination -
bitsmart@bitsmart.org -

I totally agree on the relevance and importance of this topic, but not sure it could carry it's own forum as yet.

Please post on this topic under General Metaphysics for now, and we can see how the subject progresses. We can easily move all the topics to another forum at a later date.

With best regards,

Adrian.

Greetings Winged Wolf!

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Now there's an interesting and creepy notion.  But I'm not entirely sure that born-psi infants that are high-psi stand out very much more than weaker born-psis.  That is to say, until abilities awaken, a child's field is lower-energy, and doesn't have that "active" tone that seems to draw entities flocking in.
This is something I intend to try to investigate, however--I'll certainly keep it in mind.

On the other hand, many of the born-psis who are high-psi awaken at around age 5, sometimes even a year or two younger.  And that DOES draw entities en masse.  A 4 or 5 year old is still extraordinarily vulnerable, and although they may not fall prey to SIDS, they all too often develop blocking due to trauma, and thus never reach their full psi potential.
A person who's suffered a serious trauma in childhood is much more likely to have emotional problems later in life, some of which can lead to suicide.
In addition, those psis who awaken later, in their teens, if they also happen to be high-psi, they may also suffer serious trauma which can lead to suicide--or worse, fall prey to the intensity of their own untrained, uncontrolled abilities, and be driven to it.

There's plenty to explain the absence of trained adults who are high-psi without bringing in spirit entities that commit infanticide.


--Winged Wolf
"I will stare at the sun until its light doesn't blind me, and I will walk into the fire, 'til its heat doesn't burn me, and I will feed the fire...."

The points you make are very good and very valid.

But the greater issue is that of negs attacking unborn and young infants generally.

It might be due to some latent Psychic, Spiritual, Magic etc. potential seen as a future threat, or, at the other end of the scale it could be Karma bought over from a previous life. The middle course might be that negs attack infants who simply have weaknesses in their psyches.

Nevertheless - it is encumbent on us to consider these issues carefully I suggest.

With best regards,

Adrian.

Greetings McArthur!

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I am a regular reader of the News Group alt.magick because some very interesting conversations go on there. Recently, a conversation turned into some kind of revelation of occult truths that are rarely spoken of. It is related to something you have written about regarding negs attacking children. I have provided a link to the entire thread but i will quote part of Nguyen's post here; Some are responses to questions by others, i will try to name them in this post as it progresses;

"[Casey said]> Like you once said nguyen (if I recall what you said correctly)
>
> 'the best don't even make it out of their cribs - they're killed
> before they have a chance to grow up.'
>
>[Lisa said] Some are hidden away though, eh? hah... and I guess they
> do their growing up later.
>

[nguyen replies] This is most unfortunate Lisa that you have mentioned this. First you
must know that this has almost certainly affected some who might read
this post. It is terribly insensitive to them.

People are not ready to know. I don't think they ever really will be
in my personal opinion. People can't handle that kind of reality very
well. I've seen rejection of just the bare hints of it too many times.

Now that you've put it out there though, I have to at least briefly
address it to put it into context.

Through well known standard medical studies it is known that America
has an unusually high rate of SIDS/crib death. It is also known that
different countries including less developed countries have a much
lower and in some cases almost non-existent. For this reason, standard
medical interpretation has led to the hypothesis that is some
(unknown) culturally dependent factor that is independent of level of
medical care.

Now we enter the world of the occult, which is not scientifically
verified. However, put together these known factors.

Most cultures around the world have made specific magical charms or
blessings to ward off crib death from Egypt to China and world round.
Think of where Baptism probably got started as a hybrid adoptive
pagan/christian ritual. The Xtian baptism plus the pagan magical charm
against early crib death. Overtime the Xtian rite has become a
ritualized formality mostly.

Most cultures around the world keep their babies in the bed with the
parents at least until recently. This is not often done in America.
It is known (medically) that a child's biorhytms synchornize with
their parents when in direct physical prescence. This has been
(medically) hypothesized as a direct factor in preventing crib death.

In occult terms we would say the child's aura is open. Next we look at
adults with 'psychic' or 'magical' gifts. We note that they are often
more bothered by autonomous agent (spirit) activity than your average
populace by a much higher rate. Why should it be any different for
babies? No reason at all.

In occult terms, we formulate an occultic hypothesis. The child's aura
is open. I know from experiments and observations and case studies,
that when two people hug their auras blend. Certain gifted mediums I
know use this trick (blending their aura) with their SO's at night to
prevent them from becomming unwilling possession targets. Which
characteristically includes in negative cases the difficulty of
breathing.

Occultic hypothesis: spirits attracted to gifted babies that stand out
to them just like gifted adults do take advantage of their open
isolated "auras" and either inadvertantly or purposely cause them to
cease breathing. The reason why it's higher in America is that when we
got our modern culture, we stopped doing allot of these things.

That's a hypothesis. In my studies and travels and interviews, I have
found a mountain of observations and information that directly and
indirectly supports this as a conclusion... if not a scientifically
conducted one.

Lisa, why did you have to say that? Never in a 100 years would I have
said that openly. There is so much about our world that people cannot
accept emotionally, perhaps are better off not knowing.

It opens one up to the idea that there is an invisible world of forces
and beings that reach in and bonk with their lives. If they can handle
that thought it has to be structured along religious and moralistic
lines. They cannot imagine it as a social economy, a natural ecology,
where the law of nature rules invisibly as it does visibly. They look
that that invisible world to offer them a better reality than this
one. A better world that despite depictions in many ancient traditions
as being just as I have spoken as cruel and capricious ... they look
to believe in something better... or at least imagine they will have
escape to oblivion from this world's cruelty.

People can't handle that Lisa.

There are 'rules' being broken here, and while I don't care much for
rules it still could have serious consequences."

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http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&threadm=5740c929.0204031547.5df1399d%40posting.google.com&rnum=3&prev=/groups%3Fq%3Dgroup:alt.magick%2Bauthor:nguyen%26hl%3Den%26scoring%3Dd%26selm%3D5740c929.0204031547.5df1399d%2540posting.google.com%26rnum%3D3

A very disturbing, but very important post.

SIDS has been on a rapid increase from the middle of last century at least, and, despite all of the research, no physiogical cause has ever been proven as far as I know.

What I do know, as a parent, is that it is probably the greatest fear of parents with a baby of less than a year old.

Many factors have been suggested, including formula milk, parents who smoke in the presence of the baby, and the one that has the greatest proof so far (and I believe could have substance) - is placing a child on it's stomach in the crib.

But who would have thought of a neg attack as the cause of SIDS? Or miscarriage? After what Robert in particular has said here before, this HAS to be a very real possibility.

I would really like to hear from Robert and Nita on this one.

I guess the sad thing is though, even if this can be proven among ourselves, the general populace would surely scoff at the idea  

And what would the recommendation be for those spiritually aware parents as psychic defenses for their infants? Placing a crib in a properly constructed and consecrated circle? Perhaps place garlic around the infants crib?

Very important issue is this, and thanks McArthur for bringing it to our attention.

With kind regards,

Adrian.

Greetings Bhikku!

Great idea - and no sooner said than done

Please visit "The Astral Chat" forum where (almost) anything goes!

Thanks for the suggestion - keep them coming everyone, these forums are for your benefit.

With best regards,

Adrian.

Greetings!

We are all here to discuss these things together

It isn't a competition, but a voyage of discovery!

Obviously we need to respect each others sites though, and try to be subtle

With kind regards,

Adrian.

Greetings Qui-Gon Jinn!

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Hey, I just have a lil thing to say, not that it is a major deal, but when you post a new topic for example...  and you write a long half-an-hour post, and you forget to name the posts topic at the top..  then you get a message saying there was an error or something, and you can click on a link to get you backwards and fill in the topics name, the things is - all you wrote is erased. I got the same result when hitting the back button...  of course when not forgetting this it´s no problems and it really is the typers fault, but still, it´s kinda annoying when putting alot of time into a post and then it all gets erased if you forget to for example type the topic....  all the best //Qui-Gon

- Your focus determines your reality -

I agree that this is frustrating!

But that is the way the forums are, and it would be alot of development to get around that one.

One thing I would advise everyone to do, especially with a long post, is to copy the text of your message to your clipboard every so often. You can do this by positioning your mouse at the beginning of the text, holding down your left mouse button, and dragging down to highlight the text of the message. While the text is highlighted, you can then do a "CTRL-C" (control and c) to copy the text to the clipboard. If you ever need to do the message again, simply place the mouse cursor in the message box, and do a "CTRL-V" (control and v) to copy the text from the clipboard to the message box.

With best regards,

Adrian.

Greetings!

As I understand it - when you OBE you carry with you a full set of senses, equivalent to your physical senses, but greatly enhanced. In the physical body, your Astral senses stil exist, but the organic brain is effectively a filter of the senses received from the sense organs, and that filtering process "dulls" them. That is why garlic is still effective against negs for example, and greater than 360 degree vision exists as an OBE.

Logic would dictate however that as Astral entities are non-organic, all sounds and communication are carried out telepathically and empathically and are accordingly *not* sounds as we know them in the physical world. However, while in the real-time zone, one would expect, I suppose, to hear physical noise as a reflection of that actual noise.

Interesting issue - and that is merely my understanding of how things work based upon my research of these issues.

With best regards, and good night (it's 01:13 here)

Adrian.

Greetings Dashour

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WAKING UP AFTER 6 HOURS FOR A LUCID DREAM
2. I have tried several times in the past the technique of waking up after 6 hours, staying awake for 20-30 minutes and reading something related to this subject, then going back to sleep to induce a kucid dream. This technique definately has worked for me. Not every time, but a high percentage, and I highly recommend it. It is described in the book by Rick Stack called "Out of Body Adventures".

Regards,
Jack (Dashour)

You might want to consider converting a Lucid Dream into an OBE. I can't advise you on how to accomplish that - maybe someone else here can - but it is a recognised route to getting to the true OBE state.

With best regards,

Adrian.

Greetings Arena!

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Hi Adrian, Frank, and Everyone else,

I too, have stumbled on this "technique" but have not tried it as a method by itself yet.  One of my many approaches is to do anything that intensifies energetic sensation.  Focusing on my third eye by rolling my eyes back, definitely can increase vibrations and other energetic sensations. I also recommend doing an internal brushing down kind of movement inside your forehead or third eye.  Robert described a similar Brow center stimulation technique in his Training Guide to Seeing Auras.  I also do many other kinds

Arena

That was most useful - thanks for your contribution

In Astral Dynamics, Robert describes an additional brow chakra stimulation method, which is approximately as follows:

Using awareness hands, do a stirring motion on each temple on each side of your head for about 20 seconds. After that - bounce your awareness from one temple to the other and back again, and continue with that bouncing motion. That would be after raising energy directly to the brow chakra area in the usual way. This can cause alot of activity!

I really do believe that we have something here though, thanks to Frank and everyone else who has joined in. Shifting consciousness upwards, and in particular focus on the brow chakra, has *many* precedents, in mant traditions for psychic effects, including Astral projection - I have named Tibettan and Buddhist Monks as two examples - there are many others. I think the discussion is centreing on achieving the necessary levels of relaxation and trance now, which can be achieved automatically by waking early morning, and also exit techniques.

It isn't unsual to use chakras as a basis for projection - I have read that many people visualise doors in either their solar plexus, heart or brow chakras, and exit through them.

Please keep the ideas and experiences coming!

With best regards,

Adrian.

Greetings Jo!

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Adrian, thank you so much for transferring some of the images. It makes it easier to "see" what we're talking about. I have access to some stunning formations but have no idea how to transfer them. Do you have access to the Mandelbrot Set formation or any of those other beautiful symmetrical images in the fields? I would so much appreciate it if you would transfer more images to this post. I'm sure it would be enlightening for those who haven't actually seen them. Thanks heaps.

jo

I am not a crop circle expert - in fact I don't even study them usually - but we aim to please, and so just for you, here is a Mandelbrot pic as requested

http://www.spiritweb.org/Spirit/Images/CropCircle/crop-circle-07.jpg" border=0>

With kind regards,

Adrian.

G'day Robert!

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G'day Folks!

I am very please to tell you that Pearl has been totally cured of her dark spiritual malady.  I am so pleased.  They will soon be on their way back to the US.  Romero says he will miss them a lot, as they are the nicest people he has had the good fortune to meet.  This niceness, in spite of everything that has happened to them, may be why the problem started in the first place.

Thank you one and all for all the good energy and prayers that were sent on Pearl's behalf.  This was a great help.  

This case is fascinating.  It has spanned over a decade since it began.  Pearl sought out every spiritual practitioner she could find during this time, including many doctors and psychologists. Fortunately, Pearl has kept detailed records, including all the emails and letters from the Monroe Institute (TMI), who they approached for help some time ago. This shows the difference between various approaches, and will make fascinating reading. I may be able to put some of this on my website later.  This would also make an excellent book, due to the detailed journalling that was done.

I will ask Pearl to write a letter for the forum telling of her experiences, especially the latter part when Romero and myself got involved.


Take care, Robert.

This is indeed truly exceptional news

I am so pleased that Pearl and Terry are finally on their way home to live a normal life once more.

Congratulations to Romero for a truly stunning feat of exorcism against what was obviously a high ranking, and powerful demonic entity! And of course for recognising the secondary larvae and other nasties left behind by this entity and clearing those as well.

As you say, this is an exceptional case history, culminating in the successful total exorcism and banishing of a demon with a very high rank - I believe this demon was ranked "king", and i think I am right in saying that that is only second to the highest rank of demon the "emporer". If Romero and yourself can achieve this, then clearly anything is achievable in the fight against the dark possessions.

Maybe Pearl should write a book based upon her journal, and have it published - it would assist no doubt in their travelling expenses, and putting their lives back together again.

Congratulations again to all!

Best regards, and take care,

Adrian.

Greetings Jeffrey!

Welcome to our forums

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I had experiences like this nightly for a period of about 15 years, but I never met anyone else who had them, so I learned to keep quiet. Now, quite a few years later, these kinds of experiences are being talked about, that's GREAT!

HI EVERYONE!

Jeffrey

Thanks for relating your experiences to us

I can assure you that you are in good company here!

There are man (projector)made structures in the Astral, e.g. Temples, that various people, Orders, etc., build for themselves and fellows for use as meeting places in the Astral. I know of the existence of just such a place, and which has an entrance hewn out of rock. One day in the future, when enough people here can project reliably, it would be great to create an Astral meeting place. Using symbolism, people should be able to project straight there.

Hope you fing plenty of enjoyment and value here

With best regards,

Adrian.

Greetings!

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Ok well it could be aliens, it could be government lazers in space using them as a big etcha sketch when they get bored, or maybe the earth's mass consciousness,  including animals, people, plants and the planet.

Maybe it was a stray Chupacabra grazing in the field?

http://www.artbell.com/img/s_chupacrunch.gif" border=0>

With best regards,

Adrian.

Greetings Daniel!

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I am guessing this may be a problem with Netscape, but when I click on someone's email address and the email window pops up, for some reason the bottom isn't visible and thus I cannot click on the "send" button.

I have tried to resize the wondow or drag it up, but that doesn't work either... maybe it's only a problem I face because of my hardware or something, but it might be worth checking out.  Thanks!

Dan

fides quaerens intellectum

That sounds like a Netscape problem OK.

I have just tried with Explorer and it is fine. No other reports on this one either.

Have you got Explorer or a higher version of Netscape?

With best regards,

Adrian.

Greetings DJ!

On the only occasion I have been able to try this method in the early morning so far, I have felt a deep tingling all over from nowhere while focussing.

I am not sure how close that is to Frank's own definition of vibrations in accordance with this method?

Vibrations are actually all of your major and minor chakra centres opening, and energy movements though them - that is what happens naturally during sleep.

With best regards,

Adrian.

Greetings Frank!

The energy referred to in metaphysical terms is not something that conventional science recognises - or understands.

This energy "cosmic" energy if you like, sometimes called "Psi" energy, "Prana" and serveral other such names. I am not sure whether Reikki is the same - I suppose it must be.

But this is the energy of the universe, the primordal energy which permeates everything. It is the energy used in some Magic, healing, and many, many other metaphysical things.

It is invisible, but very powerful. The first time I raised energy I was amazed at its sheer power. I can now create energy "Psi" balls just by visualisation, and I can feel the heat and power as my hands are pushed apart under the force of the Psi energy betweem my hands. That energy is also the energy of the Astral - you can do alot with it!

When I raise energy through my main chakras centres, I can see the centres as spinning vortices of the appropriate colour, and feel the heat and other sensations. Energy raised before an OBE can make a big difference.

The other area of interest is projecting into the real-time zone, before heading off to the Astral - the more etheric energy you have, the longer you can stay in the RTZ. Projecting into the RTZ with energy, and then to the Astral is effectively reproducing what happens after physical death - so it is worth getting to understand.

As usual - Robert has an excellent article on this subject - well worth a read:

http://www.astralpulse.com/guides/oobe/oobe_2.htm

With best regards,

Adrian.

Greetings Frank!

A couple of questions arise from what you just said:

1) How do "entitiies" appear to you during your Astral experiences - i.e. as other people, or all sorts of different forms, and how do you know they are not trying to decieve you - a very common thing with Astral entities.

2)And I want to add this to any technique we end up - how  much of your Astral experience do you recall, and how do you recall it.

Lets remember - the holy grail we seek here is a reliable, straightforward Astral projection method, controllability, and recall of the experience.

Thanks once again.

Adrian.

Greetings Andy!

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Im wondering if you can elaborate on the eyes part.Is this imagery or pysicaly inwhich you roll them back?

I tried this early this morning to pysicaly to roll them back but found the flutering effect to be a bit much and aborted the idea thinking I got the method wrong.

I think it sounds interesting and lookforward to giving it a go.

Thanks!

You *physically* roll your eyes back and focus them upwards - as if you are looking at the centre of your forehead - which you are doing in fact - the area of the brow chakra.

The idea is to move your point of consciousness away from the area between your eyes, and *allow* it to drift to the brow chakra area  - upon which you focus.

I don't know yet whether one allows the point of awareness to drift further - i.e. out of the top of ones head - I await Frank's directions on that one.

As I mentioned elswhere - the brow chakra focus makes a great deal of sense for many reasons, but also Tibbetan and Buddhist Monks use it as a major part of their activities.

With best regards,

Adrian.

Greetings Winged Wolf!

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I can't help but notice that the vast majority of crop circles are formed on nice, warm, comfortable nights of the year.

They would be wouldn't they - August/September time is when the crops are ripe and dry (and golden coloured), and therefore receptive to this sort of formation.

I have to think that some of these formations are so mathematically precise, and even digitally encoded, that creating something like this at night, with a case of Bud or otherwisem by human means, would be almost impossible. Certainly not 250 at a time!

Look at these decodings of the Chibolton crop circles. These appear to be a direct response to a message broadcast into outer space, in digital format, from Arecibo thus:

"The message was actually transmitted on November 16th 1974 and consisted of 1679 pulses of binary code (0's and 1's) - which took a little under three minutes to transmit. It was transmitted on a frequency of 2380MHz (which is significant later).

Why 1679 digits?
The reason for this is down to mathematics. 1679 is the unique product of two prime numbers; 23 and 73. Any sufficiently intelligent lifeform would no doubt look for unique, universal constructs - such as prime numbers, chemical element frequencies and binary digits. Don't forget that because we could be trying to communicate with an intelligence completely different to our own, we cannot talk in terms of 'human' systems, such as centimetres, feet, decimal numbers etc.
Because ONLY the two prime numbers 23 and 73, when multiplied together, produce 1679 there can only be a single way to arrange the signal, if you were converting it into a matrix grid - 23 squares by 73 squares.
The original binary code is shown in figure 1."

These Chilbolton crop circles are reckoned to be the corresponding response from space:

http://www.cropcircleresearch.com/articles/images/uk01dm/final.gif" border=0>

http://www.cropcircleresearch.com/articles/images/uk01dm/decrypt.gif" border=0>

That would imply that there are thousands of people out there, capable of that sort of precision, with nothing better to do with their times than trample wheat all night.

And how come no one has actually been caught making these thousands of circles?

I just don't know myself - it isn't something I have a position on, or think about too much. But if something from another place or dimension wanted to easily leave a large scale message, there isn't too many ways that could be accomplished over such a wide area.

The DNA/Plasma thing is interesting as well.

Who knows?

Like everything else - the truth is out there

With best regards,

Adrian.

Greetings Frank!

Comments below:

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Because I habitually go to bed early (very rare to see me up after 10pm) I awake naturally around 4am. Also, I eat very light in the evening. Just a portion of Basmati rice (my favourite!) with either some steamed vegetables or a mixed salad. For drinks I enjoy a couple of glasses of beer or wine to "take the edge off" as I call it. I certainly wouldn't advise you to intake any tea or coffee at this time because, if you are the same as me, it will interrupt your sleep patterns (as will too much alchohol, hic). Plus, I don't know if this is significant or not, but I never eat foods such as cakes, biscuits, chocolates etc.  

I think diet is important only to the extent you don't get disturbed in the night.

In the sense that you need to awake feeling fairly fresh and revived but in a relaxed state, i.e. no feelings of bloatedness, feeling hungover, headaches, neck tension from having "slept funny" and so forth.

I definitely agree on diet. If you tried to project at any time feeling bloated, drunk or hung-over, it has to be a waste of time. Even if you did manage it, the experience might be highly questionable if not unsafe.

I eat very lighly as well. No breakfast or lunch, and very often just something on bread for dinner during the week, and I also enjoy rice or salad at the weekends - particularly now the weather is improving. I have given up drinking alcohol completely.

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I imagine if you were forcing yourself to arise by use of an alarm clock then it would perhaps be beneficial to get out of bed and have a small cup of light tea. This would raise your awareness enough so that you don't just fall back to sleep. The reason I say this is because on the rare occassion that I do go to bed late, I still seem to awaken at around the same time due to sheer force of habit. But when I start to try and project, more often than not, at the later stages in the process I automatically roll on my side and go to sleep without realising it.  

This is what I have found on the three times I have tried this early morning so far. Once the cats wanted their breakfast, another time I did not get up and fell asleep again, and the final time I did get up, but had no complete success later with the method.

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Okay, so I naturally awake, have a little stretch, then lie on my back, arms by my side with elbows slightly bent, and hands resting naturally either side of my hips. Please understand you don't need to follow this robotically! If your hands feel more comfortable with your elbows straight, say, then fine. What I do feel is important, however, is that you are lying on your back and your head is supported. Reason being I've found it virtually impossible to project when lying on my side.

It appears to be a universally agreed fact that you cannot project on your side.

Lying down flat, or in a well supporting chair (which appears to be the best method)is the way to go.

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Then you let your eyes roll back and imagine your sense of consciousness floating upwards. Or use the ROPE method if you find that easier. All you need is a little meta-physical imagery to kickstart the process. But do please always bear in mind that it is not the meta-physical imagery, in itself, that makes you project. As fantastic and as surreal as it may appear, the act of projection is a natural bodily function. Just as we have natural powers of sight, taste, smell, hearing and touch: the body does have the seemingly magical power to naturally detect a level of existence we term the Astral. Not only that, we also contain within us the ability to project our sense of conscious awareness into it.  

This is the nitty gritty of the matter! I am still finding myself trying to visualise my awareness (and succeeding), and trying to *move* it to my brow. I think this is the same problem I have with any imaganitive as opposed to visualisation method - and one I need to overcome. Many projection methods are visual of course.

Frank - do you allow your point of consciousness to just rise to the centre of your forehead and then focus on it, or do you allow it to carry on rising up ad-infinitum until projection occurs?

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With me, depending on how I feel, I can project in 5 minutes or sometimes it may take an hour. This morning it took about 20 minutes. But around 3 times in 10 attempts I either get bored trying; or the dogs start barking at the foxes; or some other disturbance comes about, like, heavy rain pelting against the window, strong winds, or whatever.  

I guess patience is a key factor as well. When you feel vibrations - what happens then? it is usual to use an exit technique - do you just suddenly find yourself in the Astral straight after the vibrations, and without doing anymore? How do you know when you are there?

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The important thing is to concentrate on keeping your mind firmly affixed on the process. But don't think so hard! In analysing what I am doing, on a step-by-step basis over the past week, I found that there is definitely a point where you can use TOO MUCH concentration.  

My guess is that that is the biggest problem of all. People want to project so desperately, they simply try too hard and fail.

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What happens is, the harder you concentrate the more "it" resists you. Keep on doing that and all that happens is you get into a downward spiral. Which is where I suspect most people who try Astral projection and fail, end up. Please understand you don't need any kind of harsh concentration coupled with any real degree of fixed determination. We are not fighting a war here! Yes, you do need a little concentration, obviously, else your mind would simply drift. But, again, the key word here is "little".  

Yes - that is what I was saying above! This I think is the single biggest problem.

But other techniques, like point shift, rely on the opposite - there you have to apply incredible amounts of focus and concentration to project - and hold it for up to 30'.

Relaxation and mind state are also evidently important as well.

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Let's just say, for a moment, that the key to successful Astral Projection was imagining the right kind of "dancing" in your mind. But, let's also say, we had no concept of the act of dancing in the physical world. When I say dancing I mean simply human-beings dancing to music.  

If you could imagine that one particular way of dancing in your mind... whoosh... projection would be ignited. But with no visual concept of dance, in the physical world, the only means of communicating the actions would be through words.

So say the correct kind of dancing you had to imagine was classical ballet. Now, the problem would be, we'd have a large number of people all thinking along the correct lines alright... but they are imagining being in a nightclub dancing to Rock 'n Roll.

Yours,
Frank

Coming together is the beginning;
Keeping together is progress;
Working together is success.
Henry Ford

Thanks again Frank!

I think the process is coming together.

I would still like to know whether your method can be reliably used to project during the day from a sitting position, rather than just early in the morning?

With best regards,

Adrian.






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Greetings Daniel!

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Thanks for the info!

I am studying up on it and I find that everything you have all noted is quite true.  I have one other question, does the star of David have anything to do with the pentegram?

No, the Pentagram is highly symbolic, and powerful, in its own right, and not related to the Star of David.  As I mentioned before, the Pentagram is particularly powerful in such defensive and protection rituals as the Lesser Banishing Ritual of the Pentagram (LBRP), where the four Archangels Raphael, Mikael, Gabriel and Uriel are also evoked and present.

The LBRP, whether performed physically or Astrally is a very powerful defense against psychic and negative attack.

The Star of David is a Hexagram I believe, and which also has its place in Magic, but does not have the same symbolism as the Pentagram.

With best regards,

Adrian.

Greetings Dashour!

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Hey Frank! Or anyone else! -

I have been trying your "raise the eyes/consciousness" technique with some encourging signs while sitting down and meditating.

Questions:

1. You say you do this in the early morning. I have also been trying that. From what state/position do you start? Do you wake up, continue to lie in bed without getting up, and just go right into it? Or, do you wake yourself up a bit first, and then lie back down and try it?

2. Reason I am asking is that when I wake up, at say 4:30AM, if I just continue to lie there in bed and jump right into the technique, I seem to be too much in a sleep daze, or something. Hard to concentrate.

If I get up, putter around a bit, take a shower even, and then try it sitting in my chair, I seem to be more easily able to enter a trance/meditative state. Well, that is if I am understanding any of this at all to begin with, haha.  

Comments? Thanks heaps.

I had a similar situation this morning.

I woke up early, and decided to try out Frank's method.

I turned on the light intending to stay awake for 30 minutes or so, and get motivated and focussed without being too tired. Unfortunately, as soon as I turned the light on, my cats assumed it must be breakfast time, and jumped on the bed howling at me for their food.

I didn't fancy going downstairs to open a can of cat food at that time in the morning, so I turned the light off and went back to sleep again

There is no doubt in my mind that the gentle, unforced raising of the point of consciousness/awareness, and focus on the brow chakra area is the key to this - and it makes alot of sense as well.

When the vibrations arrive, there appears to be a decision to make then as to whether to allow the vibrations take you into the Astral, or slow everything down to project into the physical first - and then the Astral later.

A relaxed state is clearly required - although, it seems, not as much as other methods, and neither I suspect is a deep trance state. The most recommended projection position is sitting in an armchair with neck supported, and head straight up. I reckon that position, with a few minutes relaxation or meditation follwed by the raising of the awareness and brow chakra focus might also be highly effective.

I also intent to try raising energy to that area first before an attempt to see what happens - that could be very interesting.

Please keep the ideas and progress reports coming - I am very hopeful we can derive a very worthwhile projection method out of all of this

With best regards,

Adrian.

Greetings Bhikku!

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I am totally open minded on this subject, never having studied crop circles.

I have no doubts that some, if not many are hoaxes, but some are just too elaborate.

Take a look at this photo taken from the field adjacent to Chilbolton, and which appears to represent an extremely complex code as well as imagery. Those would not have been created as a hoax by a few mates at midnight after a few beers, armed only with a piece of wood, a length of string, and several size 12 boots  

With best regards,

Adrian.