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Greetings Barbara!

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Hello Fallnangel 77

Yes you are right some people are lucky in that they didn't have to overcome a belief system in order to find their own way. Yet they like us still had to find their own particular path. I think that it doesn't matter how you start out, it's how you finish that counts!

We come into this life on our own and leave the same way. From the first breath to the last breath in life, what's in between "experiences" that's why we are here. No matter how rich or famous one is, the only thing that a person takes with them when they leave this place is the "experiences" So no matter what background we come from; when we become adults we all have choices, and are accountable only to ourselves.

With all good wishes,
Barbara

I must say, I really do like your philosophy very much

I would just add that it does not matter where, in society, one is incarnated, it is what one makes of it that matters. If it were not for my family responsibilities, I would be content to live in a cave with my books, a PC and an Internet connection, helping people whenever and wherever I could

I think the recently passed over British Queen Mother is a good example of this - despite being born into, or coming into, extreme wealth and priveledge, she nevertheless selflessly helped, and positively improved the lives of countless people, and that legacy will travel with her to the Spirit worlds, and into her next incarnation here.

The very least anyone can do is to leave the world a better place than when they found it.

With best regards,

Adrian.

Greetings Jo!

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  For most up-to-date info on the crop formations, go to
  www.swirlednews.com
  I personally can't recommend highly enough, this annual event.
   Jo Buchanan.
jo

Well just don't let them tell you that they are the Isle of Avalon! All the latest data points right here in the Isle of Man holding that distinction. I notice that one of the entertainers is "The Avalonian Free State Choir"  

Sounds like an awesome few days though judging by the schedule on the web site!

With best regards,

Adrian.

Greetings Barbara!

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Greetings!

In the past many times I have thought,  "Is dream the reality or reality the dream!" I have come to the conclusion that all of us when we are asleep each night our consciousness roams at random, and what we have experienced in our daily lives is mixed up in a series of scenarios and images. Dream sequences are played out and we have absolutely no control over them. Unless the dream has been striking in some way such as something extremely pleasant or a nightmare. Upon wakening and coming from the dream like state the more awake we become the more the dream fades into the distance, and once completely awake it is mostly forgotten in a matter of moments.

Lucid Dreaming is where we have some control and I believe that this state is situated on the Base/Astral Collective Consciousness Level and I also feel that you can only move within this vibration. Upon wakening from this state I have found it is easier to remember because the dream is usually more prolific.

In Astral Projection, I believe that anything is possible, we can go anywhere within the realms that we each exclusively resonate at. The more advanced that one is, and becomes, the higher the vibration and the further away from the Collective Consciousness on to the next stage of our own particular journey.

All good wishes,
Barbara

Yes - I must say - as I currently understand things, I think your summary above is a very good one. It is also possible that substances such as alcohol, drugs etc., can temporarily effect Astral vibrational level. Don't drink and fly

With best regards,

Adrian.

Greetings Nita!

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Hi Adrian
  Eating raw garlic is a good way to avoid the flu in the first place. It makes people stand further back so they don't breath on you as much. Garlic is excellent for a lot of things with all joking aside.
  I have noticed patterns in my life that are different from a lot of other people. Anytime I do anything that is cutting close to the edge of improper behavior (I am human after all). I get my karma back so quick as if something is telling me that I know better than that.
  I also seem to have evil notice me at times when I have felt that I have done the greatest good. I help people with difficult problems and the ones that caused the problems don't like that. I do have a tendancy to be cursed more often than most other magicians for that reason.
  Everyone I deal with is a difficult person because of the problems that they are having at the time. It adds to the stress and the only way you can adjust to that is to have compassion and understanding. You also have a chance to be physically damaged unless you are really balanced and centered.
   Nita

I agree about Garlic  

Actually I must confess to this - when Robert first suggested eating a clove of garlic four times per day, I thought he meant a *whole* garlic four times per day  So I went straight to the Supermarket and bought a dozen full high quality garlics! On the first day, having munched my way through a fair bit of raw whole garlic, I thought I had better clarify the dosage with Robert - then I realised he meant four of those sections inside. i.e. cloves  - I am not a cook, and so I don't understand the lingo   But anyway - we are still eating garlic here  - madras curry again this weekend again!

I do keep away from people after eating garlic . I can't smell anything at all myself though - of anything - something literally zapped my sense of smell overnight about six months ago, and it hasn't returned since. That was a month or so after a very near fatal asthma attack (which hit me very hard, all of a sudden, for no apparent reason whatsoever - I have always suffered from asthma since I was young, but this was *very* different - nothing would work to relieve it) - I was in complete respiratory failure for a very long time - another couple of minutes and I wouldn't have made it at all - and the doctors think it is something to do with that - I disagree with them.

I have also experienced a few suspected psychic attacks over the last six months as well - a sort of deep attack of negative energy out of nowhere, and for no apparent reason - I am a positive, forward thinking, upbeat sort of person, but this was like someone had put my head in a vice, and was turning the screws - I just used sheer mind power and some magic visualisations that I know, and an hour or so later everything is just fine again. I wouldn't know how to define that sort of attack - but I can sure do without them!

I suppose the point I am making in a rather long winded way, and by using the above personal experiences to illustrate it, is that it takes people with your own level of experience and knowledge (who are every few) in order to discern the difference sometimes between a pure medical condition, and a psychic attack. I personally suspect that a great many people are carrying curses or negs of some order or another, while doctors, in all good faith, are prescribing sometimes very potent classes of drugs to relieve the symtoms, or, very often, referring such afflicted people to psychiatric care for an indefinite period of time. Personally I have only visited the doctor a couple of times in ten years - I am a firm believer in pure mind power (and garlic) in lieu of medicine.

I am hopeful of the fact that Robert's new book PPSD will open up a whole new area of understanding in these areas. The ultimate problem is going to be in the relatively smalll number of people available who have the necessary knowldege and experience to assist people who are demonically or psychically possessed in one way or another.

As for centering and grounding - I know you at least read a particular work which I am following, from the group we subscribe to, and of course elemental equilibrium is a major aspect of that teaching - is that related to centering and grounding in some ways as well?

With best regards,

Adrian.

Greetings!

Interesting creatures are Dragons - I don't profess to know too much about them, but they do seem to be a class of their own, and we cannot disregard the rich history of Dragon legends that abound.

There are books on conjuring Dragons, just as there are about conjuring Spirits, so one must assume that they are fairly high up in the Astral (where they presumably reside right now) heirarchy. It would also indicate that they may always have existed, rather than being created from thought forms over a long period of time.

Best regards,

Adrian.

Greetings Daniel!

Thanks for your kind remarks on the other thread regarding these forums

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I have always been under the impression that the pentegram had to do with "devil worship" and other dark practices, but my research indicates something entirely different.

I am afraid the Pentagram is one of those things that many religious organisations have sought, totally erroneously, to portray as a thing of evil - associated with an alledged "devil". This, like altering their position on re-incarnation around 350ad, (and possibly creating the concept of "hell" and the "devil" or "satan" at around the same time I believe to support that position,) appears to be another myth spread by religions in the interests of controlling congregations - possibly because of its associations with witchcraft, where it is commonly known as the "Pentacle".

Well the fact is, nothing could be further from the truth. I could write reams on this subject, but suffice it to say that symbolically the Pentagram represents the four elements - Fire, Water, Air and Earth, and the top point represents "The Divine", "The One", "Unity" and all other names for the Great Creator and Master of the Universe.

The principles symbolically represented by the Pentagram are utterly sacred and fundamental to everything in the universe.

The Pentagram is also an extremely powerful instrument *against* evil, and is used to protect against and fight many dark entities of all levels. A Pentagram covered in electric blue flames is an extremely powerful defence against attack - especially in the Astral.

There is one ritual, which is an extremely powerful defensive ritual to protect oneself and others, called "The Lesser Banishing Ritual of the Pentagram", commonly referrd to as "LBRP" and can be performed either in the physical plane while vibrating the sacred names, or in the Astral.

With best regards,

Adrian.

Greetings Bitsmart!

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As a non-dualist believing that everything happens for a reason, that everything is EXACTLY the way it should be according to the divine plan, and that as long as you follow your TRUE heart, you're doing the right thing, I would say...

Foobar.

Putting people back on track isn't interfering with their spiritual development, it's part of it, because noone can do it alone. I believe the purpose of life, reincarnation, and karma is to simply experience and develop as a soul. If your heart says you should help someone, then it's part of the divine plan that includes your spiritual development, your friend's, and everything else in this Multiverse. Just do what you think is right and virtuous.

bitsmart -
information illumination -
bitsmart@bitsmart.org -

Yes - well said indeed!

If it is made apparent to us that someone could use our help, or even that helping them is appropriate and something you would like to do, whether or not there is a reason for it, then that is what we should offer to do.

Aside from the fact the help would indeed be intended on your part, the other person also still has to make the decision for themselves as to whether to accept the offer of help and to subsequently cooperate.

Follow your heart, intuition, guidance from within, or without, and you will surely be doing the right thing.

Best regards,

Adrian.

Greetings Frank!

Thanks for your rapid feedback!

I can understand you missing the Astral! I am hoping that we can put something together here by way of a new OBE method, which opens up the experience to many more people.

Look forward to your further thoughts when you have time.

Best regards,

Adrian.

Greetings Frank!

Regrading Chakras, and energy sensations thereof, you can find more information here from an earlier article by Robert:

http://www.astralpulse.com/guides/oobe/oobe_4.htm

I will get to your other messages later - there are some extremely interesting facts arising

For now though, I have to take my three sons aged 11, 10 and nearly 9 around the Supermarket, and it usually takes me (and the Supermarket) some hours to recover from the experience.

Glorious spring day though

With best regards,

Adrian.

Greetings Bhikku!

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I have not been able to produce an AP or Lucid Dream yet so I am somewhat confused/concerned on the matter. If in fact a AP is the same as a LD, then AP is not real- correct? I use the term "real" in the sense that we know to be real, here on this website. You would not actually be in the "astral dimention" but just inside of your own psyche. Could it all just be the greatest hoax of our own minds? If this is true, I don't understand how one would obtain information they previously did not know. When the time comes for me to have a LD/AP how would I know the difference?

"Look within, thou art the Budda"

I don't think your assumption is correct in absolute terms.

The Astral realms and many entities of all types and levels that exist there are very real indeed. The Kabbalah Tree of Live is based upon the various Astral Realms.

Also - I don't think there is much doubt about the fact that when you project into the "real time zone", and can view real life events and verify them later, that is also real.

The grey area is Lucid Dreaming, and possibly low level Astral projection, and which is what I am trying to get to.

Actually, Lucid Dreaming, in fact any dreaming, could be interaction with the lower Astral. The lower Astral also almost certainly corresponds to the collective human psyche. These factors are highly relevant in influential level Magic, and in particular where people are trying to influence others through the level of the collective human psyche which everyone shares.  That is why it is possible when projecting, to enter into the dreams of other people, and when encountering people that are the object of someones dream, they might not seem to make much sense. Below that, is the individual human psyche, which is probably your own sort of private area of the lower Astral that corresponds to a private version of the collective human psyche. In a Lucid Dream, in this case you would of course be interacting with yourself, in your own created world.

My theory is that when Astral projecting, it is of course possible to project to the higher levels of the Astral, higher than the collective human psyche - the lower aspect of which is where Astral Wildlife is found, and with higher level entities (and fewer of them) the higher you go. The question is, how do you differentiate these levels?

I suspect another important difference between AP and LD is that in the case of the latter, you are *stuck* at the LD/lower Astral/individual/collective level, and have to work within the parameters of that level. In the case of AP, you are *much* more conscious of your own actions, and accordingly have *much* more control and understanding - this provides you with the ability to make conscious, controlled  decisions to vibrate to higher levels of the Astral, beyond the collective, and to interact with that environment and the higher level entities that autonomously exist there.

These are the questions. I believe that Lucid Dreaming never really escapes the individual/collective psyche level of the Astral. OBE/AP on the other hand can reach that, but, I think, with the ability to travel, or vibrate to higher Astral levels.

Anyway - that is my theory - which is probably completely wrong

I would appreciate all views on this - it is a very interesting subject

Best regards,

Adrian.

Greetings Darrenbeck!

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my point is, there is no point to doing anything, why not just sit.

It is an interesting idea for sure.

But how long do you sit for, and do you eat and drink?

And, while you are sitting, would you not meditate on why you have incarnated into this particular life, and whether there must be a purpose that your are intended to fulfill?

Keep moving

Best regards,

Adrian.

Greetings DjMidgetMan

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I tried the technique again last night.... I think I saw that "Stray Energy" again. At one point in the technique, I felt this odd shift in consciousness... It was like I came an inch out of my body... All my body awareness arose an inch off my body... Does that mean im making progress, or is that something else?

DjMidgetMan
  "Mind over Matter"

I would suggest you are making progress there - did you get the vibrations?

I have spent the last couple of days studying this, because I think Frank really has something significant here. Thus far I have found a couple of useful facts gleaned from various places:

1) Tibbetan and Buddhist monks spend alot of time focussing intently on their brow chakras. They say that this could drastically improve OBE capabilities, but their main objective is Kundalini enlightenment.

2) There is a modification to Frank's excellent method which could be well worth trying as follows:

When you go to bed, set your alarm for 6 hours after you would fall asleep. When the alarm goes off, get up and read, surf the net etc. for an hour, and then go back to bed focussing on your brow Chakra, while going back to sleep. One of two things could then happen - you either go into a lucid dream state, or awake with waking paralysis and/or vibrations, at which point you can leave your body - I would do it by visualisation - rising upwards. If you go into the lucid dream state, you can often will yourself to have an OBE, and the above will occur at that point.

3) Raising energy via NEW to your brow Chakra might work well with this method, before going to sleep, or focussing on the brow Chakra.

These have got to be well worth trying anyway.

I am posting a separate topic on this - but do people have theories on the difference between Lucid Dream and OBE?

With many thanks again to Frank for motivating me to do this research

Best regards to all,

Adrian.

G'day Robert!

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G'day!

Historically, every church is said to have a demon associated with it.  If you study the history of demonology, you'll find some notable case histories where churches have been plagued by major demons.  

Interesting - but there are many churches in the Isle of Man - I wonder why this one has such a powerfully felt entity? I don't think they have any more capicity for good than any other church in that respect.

It could be the locals blowing things out of proportion though I guess.

We have so many really weird things here. Another place the locals avoid is a hill where vehicles roll UP the hill with engine switched off apparently. It is a tourist attraction - a coach load of tourists is taken to the foot of the hill, cars work just as well, and the driver switches off the engine, and the bus starts to move up the hill backwards as if some unseen force is pulling it  I think the locals ascribe it to unknown powers, but I think it is magnetism myself. I have never been there though.

I do travel over the Faery Bridge four time each day though taking the kids to school - the trees around are bedecked with gifts to the Fae folk

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All saints are said to be sorely tested by spiritual attack.  The greater their potential for good, the greater are the demonic attacks.  St Francis, for example, lived his whole life under strong demonic attack.  

I wonder if that applies to *all* forces of good or light?

I often wondered whether people like yourself, Nita and Romero are more likely to be the subject of ongoing psychic and/or demonic attacks, because of all of your ongoing excellent and brave work in fighting these things?

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ps, fresh red garlic is the best to use against vampires.

It is great for the flu as well
I had a really nasty attack of flu a while back, and Robert instructed me to eat a large clove of garlic, raw, four times each day. I did that, and it cleared up the flu within a couple of days Most other people who had the same bug, suffered for up to four weeks.

Just don't go in any crowded places after eating raw garlic

Powerful stuff that garlic - and great in curries

Best regards,

Adrian.

Greetings Winged Wolf!

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That's true--besides, the one I had in mind isn't as complete as I thought--here it is: http://www.mdani.demon.co.uk/para/paraglos.htm

You're correct, there are certainly terms we can add.

The only potential problem I see is in defining some terms.  We may have to use multiple definitions to make everyone happy.  But, well, Websters does that too.


--Winged Wolf
"I will stare at the sun until its light doesn't blind me, and I will walk into the fire, 'til its heat doesn't burn me, and I will feed the fire...."

That's true.

Thinking about it, I don't think using the forums would work that well - it sorts by date and not alphabetical order.

I might try and to a database driven "Knowledge Base" system if I get the time, and which authorised people can add to and update. What do you think about that?

The one at the link is very good, but plenty of scope for more to be added and expanded on I think. Either way, a comprehensive glossary/dictionary would be great to have here.

Thanks again!

Best regards,

Adrian.

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There is a nice paranormal dictionary out there on the web, I've got the link somewhere.  There's a glossary on the Guild site, too, but that's highly specific.
I don't think either of them contain "Parazoology" or "astral wildlife", however.  Psychic vampirism is in wide useage, and should be listed in the one that's already up.
I should find that link again...I think that fellow had a means of submitting terms.


--Winged Wolf
"I will stare at the sun until its light doesn't blind me, and I will walk into the fire, 'til its heat doesn't burn me, and I will feed the fire...."

Greetings Winged Wolf!

I had a feeling that pyschic vampirism was in use.

I would however like to start a dictionary of paranormal and occult terminology here.

I think the best way to do this is to dedicated but restricted forum, with each topic subject being a term like "parazoology", and the content being the description.

I don't see that the existence of other such compilations should prevent us - besides, it seems to me that we have more terms to add  

Best regards,

Adrian.

Greetings all!

We should start our own dictionary of terms!

We have, just for starters:

Astral Wildlife (Robert)

Parazoolgy (Winged Wolf)- I think that one is great

Psychic Vampirism

There must be many more. Maybe we should start a topic on this, and make a FAQ?

Best regards,

Adrian.

Greetings Nita!

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Hi Adrian
  Most of the vampires that I have observed have been alive and using vampirism to extend their lives. They do suck the victims energy instead of their blood and they say that they feel a bite from the enities that are sent to do this to them.
  I see no reason why a spirit couldn't be a vampire and be trying to steal life energy to stay on this earth. A number of religions have myths concerning beings like this. I read that vampires don't like mint along with the normal usage of garlic. I really don't think they are demons although the ones that are alive do seem to use them to perfect their methods of living off of others.
  I would really be interested in seeing a enity tear a roof off of a building. Let me know if they ever get any film of that occuring.
  Nita

Thanks very much indeed for your most interesting response

I suppose sucking energy from people is actually psychic vampirism.

As for that chapel - they abandoned it years ago now, after they realised the entity was not going to allow the roof to remain on. The building is now in a field, derelict, minus it's roof, and regarded as possessed I think. The entity won that one!

With kind regards,

Adrian.

Greetings Mobius!

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G,day Adrian,thanks for clearing that up,I didn,t know what had
happened as I had read the post twice that morning after I posted it
& then gone & it was a long bugger too! thats the only reason I,m
whingeing,with my bad back it just about killed me to sit there &
type that one!

Anyway I,ll write in the problems section next time.

Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool.Murphy

All the best on your journeys Adrian

Mobius

No problem! You can be sure that all I want (and Robert wants) is a 100% operational service, hopefully serving a useful purpose, and where *everyone* is happy.

I really do need to know about problems as thet arise if any.

I can assure you, after 23 years running companies in the high-tech computer business, I have seen and heard just about everything I founded one of Britains first ever fully national ISP's many years ago - and absolutely the first to offer access to the whole of Britain, at local call rates, on a single access number, and well before the vast majority of people had even heard of the Internet. In those days, everything was tied together with string to make it work - both at the server end and the client end It was way before the days of specialised Internet software at all - we just had to make what we had work!

Some of the things that came up from customers in those days were just incredible

No - I always want to know about *any* problems at all!

Best regards,

Adrian.

Greetings Mobius!

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Oi! Whats goin on? I posted an emeil this morning,just after Q-G J,s
Aaah Atlantis,myth or legend?I saw it twice this morning but this
afternoon I have a look & it,s gone!Did I say something that was
too offensive?Mention a name or place I shouldn,t have?
Who ever is monitoring the emails can you PEM me & tell me what I,ve done?Or is it more gliches with the system?Thanks

All the best on your journeys

Mobius

I am not sure what happened to your post, but only moderators can delete posts. They certainly cannot disappear of their own accord, because it is a database driven system, and once the post is in the database it has to display with the others.

I can say that I have never deleted any post on this forum due to its content, and would be very unlikely to do so. My own policy is not to delete *anything* at all unless it is overtly very offensive, or contains other illegal material such as advertising, copyright issues etc..

The entire system has been working fine almost since day one. We had a few bugs in the first few days which I fixed, and since then it has been solid. The software and systems either work or they don't - and they do

I monitor everything - servers and forums for most of the day, and there hasn't been any problem that I can see - and it would be logged if there was.  The forums posts are certainly mounting up - there was 100 yesterday for example. I do know there are external problems from time to time outside of my control - but these are few and far between.

I can say that I am very pleased with how smoothly things are running. There are almost no bugs reported in the forums or reported by email - long may it continue


If anyone does suspect a problem, please report them in the forum provided or by email, and they will be investigated I assure you.

BTW - all moderators are trusted here - I have no idea what other moderators do, and have no way of telling.

Best regards,

Adrian.

Greetings Nightflier!

Last post for tonight - it's 01:40am here

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Hello Adrian,

  So as I put this together into words it reads as follows;

As I change my frequency or rate there-of, I will shed the denser astral body and refine myself to a finer mental/spirit body. Thus in tune with the now accesible astral/mental planes.  Which I will be able then to travel in...

  I know it's not as easy as it sounds, but I've been stuck in the real-time muck for so long. I'm willing to put 110% effort into breaking this frequency wide open!  

GEEEZZ!!  I can't get this stupid smile off my face...

                   Nightflier...

In a word - no

Astral and Mental travel are different disciplines, requiring different approaches.

I am not sure why you are stuck at the real time level of the Astral, but you need to somehow figure out how to shift to the main Astral - once there you should be able travel between the planes to the extent that the density of your Astra-Mental body allows, and the level of vibrations you can achieve for the dimensional shift. I have heard for example that drinking alcohol will lower your vibrations, and accordingly restrict you to a lower level of the Astral - not good if you need to shift up to escape some low Astral wildlife or entity that is threatening.

I suggest that you try Roberts method first. Next time you project into the real-time zone as usual, pick a point on the horizon, take off, and fly towards it at maximum possible speed. I think Robert says that if you get it wrong you will end up in outer space, if you get it right you should feel the dimensional shift and be in the Astral.

Or, you could try Frank's method and go directly Astral.

It seems to me to be related to exit technique. If you exteriorise your awareness to the physical, it seems that is where you will arrive after you project. But Frank's method tunes directly into the Astral, without exteriorising to the physical first. This is supported by the fact that Frank says if he uses "Rope technique" he can then get in to the real time zone, whereas before he seemed stuck in the Astral

This suggests that the zone projected to is technique dependant and not projector dependant.

Good night, and good luck!

Adrian.

Greetings Nightflier!

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I thank all of you for your comments!

   See, now I'm getting some direction on this.  Robert Monroe said once he was out, he would then seperate again to a finer body from his projected body.  This must be the frequency change Frank is talking about.  Frank, you must be directly projecting into this second body or frequency, hense skipping the real-time projection.

So next time I get out I'll need to remember to try this. I don't vibrate when I'm out, it's quiet and peaceful. So I'll have to figure out what I have that can be tuned...

Facinating!!

I like the way this post has gone so far.  So everyone keep your comments coming...    

                         Nightflier...

It might not be that simple unfortunately

We have three fundamental bodies - physical, Astral/Soul, Mental/Spirit. The joined Astra-Mental body is fairly dense, and accordingly is restricted to the level of the Astral which corresponds to its density. The Mental body is *much* finer, and can travel the entire Astral and the Mental planes - again, to a level which corresponds to its density.

The above applies after the death of the physical body, as well as when projecting.

Within the Astral, the "planes" are vibrating at different frequencies. Think of TV set - there are thousands of channels being broadcast concurrently, but you can only tune into one at a time.  So to travel to a higher "plane", your Astra-Mental body needs to be fine enough to allow it, and your vibration needs to be increased - "raising your vibrations".

So an Astral plane shift upwards, is a dimensional shift, bought about by an increase in the frequency of vibration of your Astra-Mental body.

This is my current understanding of these matters anyway

Best regards,

Adrian.

Greetings Violet!

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Dear Adrian,

I was curious about your comments.  

I think that their are OBEers that are really good a some forms of OBE than others.  For example my cousin has just 'way to eiry' an ability to project herself to almost any location on the planet.  Her husband was an airplane pilot so she liked keeping tabs on him.  She would project and watch him.  When he would phone she would say "Oh! you are at such and such an airport now due to this diversion".  But she would never tell him how she knew.  I am very poor at this type of projection.

I think that not only which chakra you project out of but your very belief systems and perceptions, goals and ways of interperting things dramatically impacts how we experience leaving our bodies and how we experience portals. My goal when OBEing is to learn perspective, compassion stuff like that.  I think that is why when I project I hear the phrases I do "What is your goal", "What do you wish to learn" etc once I leave my body.    

Love and Light to the One and All,
Violet

Yes indeed - your comments are very true of the Astral experience itself, in as much that it can be highly subjective, and shaped according to expectations, objectives even thoughts etc.. It is possible, with the right training, to move the experience from being less subjective, to more objective.

However - the Astral can also be *highly* symbolic, in that you can project to realms that correspond with symbolism - e.g. a Carved Pumpkin might be the Sun realm, Silver Apple might be Avalon, Iron Cauldron the Moon realm etc.. Once you have arrived at that realm through these symbolic gateways, how you interpret what you find there, is then a matter of subjectivity/objectivity.

Projecting though Chakras is more generic I guess - it is a gateway to the Astral - although I am sure the Chakra has some influence over the Astral realm you arrive in.

Another method is to stare intently at a symbol of a certain colour, sometimes called Tattwas (I think), and then close your eyes. The symbol in the colour complimentary to the actual colour will be seen in your mind, and you can then project through that symbol. I believe that will take you to elemental worlds, but I am not exactly certain.

Best regards,

Adrian.

Greetings Nightflier

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 My new thoughts are that the astral realms are not up in space. They are all around us, I do not have to travel to get there.   They are just a phase shift, or a change of thought.  Just as close as stepping to the left or right, and you're there!  

What do you think about this?

                              Nightflier...

The Astral planes are not completely seperate planes as such, and neither is the physical world seperate, but rather the lower reaches of a space-time continuum, at the top of which is the "eternal now". This continuum, at the Astral level, does have distinct areas, or planes, but are still a continuum just with less Astral material between the planes.

Basically, we have the Astral realms, and beyond that the Mental realms. The energy body of an OBE is much too dense to reach, with any certainty, anywhere but the lower Astral for most people. To reach all of the Astral planes and the Mental, or Spirit planes, you would need to travel in your Mental or Spirit body only, i.e. without the density of the Astral vehicle.

Somewhere, Robert Bruce has an article about projecting from the lowest levels to the Astral, as he had the same problem originally.  From memory, I believe Robert suggests focussing on a point on the horizon, and flying towards that point as fast as you possibly can - like the speed of light. If you get it wrong, you will end up in outer space somewhere and have to return, but hopefully you will feel a dimensional shift, and you will find yourself somewhere in the Astral.

Best regards,

Adrian.

Greetings Barbara, and you are most welcome

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Thank you for the welcoming replies to my 1st message on this forum. The advice will go a long way to helping me in my pursuit of successful astral projection.

Frank regarding what you say about the training zone, this being the base area of the astral where by "whatever we fear causes us to encounter that which is negative"
Sounds completely logical to me, being aware of this and more importantly believing it, will on a subconscious level help me with whatever I encounter. I do realize that emotions and a positive frame of mind are all important. I will look for your other messages to find the thread that you mentioned.

I have found when meditating within the hypnagogic imagery,there always appears a small white dot that grows in size becoming an empty circle within a circle changing in colour with each circle becoming bigger. When the circle has become full screen size  (which is situated in the area where the third eye is) it is like watching a television screen, I have seen some strange and wonderful places, what appears to be like the Moon, another like Mars. A place that has three Moons, where everything was the colour of pink and lilac with a strage rock like terrain. Seen structures that I just couldn't give a name to because I have never seen anything like this before. I have viewed the earth from afar, been in the ocean and seen a large round submersible with a window, with what appeared to be faces looking at me watching them, this and so much more, but I found that if I tried to concentrate or think about what I was observing and not remain passive then it would all instantly be gone.

I don't know if others have experienced this, but since becoming involved with all of this it feels as though my intuition is stronger, and I have become more 'sensitive'.

All good wishes,
Barbara

You are almost certainly viewing the Astral.

I suggest you try and project into the Astral by imagining your awareness shrinking down to such a small size, that you can pass straight through the image, and into the world you are viewing at that time. There is an excellent chance that would work - it is the basis of several projection techniques. Some people create doorways in their solar plexus or heart chakras,  and project straight through them.

Remember - your consciousness or awareness is an *extremely* small point of energy.

Some advanced projectors project through symbols that represent different realms, and others create more advanced symbols, which mean something more specific, and project through them.

Sounds to me that you are tuned into the Astral, you just need to get there

Best regards,

Adrian.

Greetings Frank!

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I honestly do not know what it means to "visualise".

In a sense you have taught me that there is some kind of visualisation-thing I cannot yet come to understand. All that I know is what I can see, hear, touch, etc with my physical senses.

I am a scientist, not a mystic.

Yours,
Frank

"You see, God always takes the simplest way"
Albert Einstein  

Hmmm...

Well my definition of visualisation is to see something in your "minds eye", as if you were seeing it with your physical eyes. Or alternatively, to create such a visualisation based on imagination. For example, I can close my eyes, and see a scene, e.g. in the country, as if I was actually there and seeing it with my own eyes. Visualisation and imagination often get crossed by people. To me, imagination is more spatial than visual.

For example, take rope exit - you are supposed to "imagine" the rope, and feel its texture, and feel the effort of climbing it. I have difficulty with that - I see the rope, and see my hands climbing to the ceiling, I see the rope coiled on the floor etc., but without excerpting the pressure on my energy body where it is needed.

Many exit techniques do depend on pure visualisation.

Your Astral projection method has many qualities and advantages over all of the above, and, I have to say, based on my own ongoing path work, makes considerable sense all round.

It seems to me that what comes naturally to one person, might not to the next, and vice versa. Some people are naturally very clairvoyant for example, others can do (psycho)telekinesis very easily - I guess we all major in certain areas, but can adapt to the whole with practice and good advice and training.

However - visualisation can be extremely useful in the Astral - as you know - these things are magnified enormously from the physical to the Astral - it is like comparing a pocket calculator to the worlds most powerful supercomputer. Using pure visualisation and energy, anything can be created in the Astral, its durability depending on the amount of energy involved, and how often it is repeated before the visualisation "sets". That is one basis for Magic - "as above, so below". You will have come across Temples in the Astral I am sure - well they are built by pure visualisation by their owners, and are always there to return to and work from.

I hope that doesn't sound too convoluted?  

I am an ex-scientist (before I discovered computer technology) and not a mystic

Thanks again.

Best regards,

Adrian.