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These post are amazing!  Bump.  For newbies, this is FZ they are talking about, or the 3d blackness.

Han

Phasor-

Were did you find this post of Franks?  I have been immensely interested in the whole "reality creation", or probability creation, of focus 2oc

HAN

Do you call her "biscuit" as a pet name?  I once had a girlfriend I nicknamed "my little tater tot" because it made her so embarrassed when I would say it in public.

Anyway, you should write a chapter in your Astral projecting book about finding a soul mate.  I'm sure all these lonely women on this board would gobble it up. {Frank, I read you post below this and I just want you to know that I wasn't making fun of this concept-just that a lot of people are looking for their soul mates these days}  {btw, I am not ready to find mine yet- but would love to in the future}

Have you told her about your AP skill?  Does she think you nuts

Han

This should clear some things up. Read everything you can by Frank, his techniques and linear Focus model, "the road map",  have been like rocket fuel for my progress.

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=15371

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=13644

Read all the permanent topics and astral FAQ's, they will help alot.

Han

Focus 2 is kinda fun, but Focus 3 is where the learning starts.  For example Frank wrote:

As regards the people you are seeing, you have to begin to accept that when you shift to Focus 3 you WILL come across all manner of other people. These people are not "figments of your imagination" they are actually other people engaged within Transition. One of the freakiest things that would happen to me is people would greet me like a close friend and I simply would not have a clue who they were. But all of us have what I call a non-physical family. These are people that know us and we tend to gravitate towards them for all manner of reasons.

In time you will learn to overcome your fears and simply get used to meeting and greeting these people. The simplest way to find out who they are is to stick around long enough to ask.

This is where the "heavens" are for the religions and so on.  Although, in Focus 2 you can shape your physical reality.  for instance, if you create things in focus 2 then they may manifest in the physical reality.  Frank talks about this on his site, but I have yet to fully grasp the technique.  I guess I will wait for the book.

Frank says that focus 4 is WAY out there and rarely talks about it, but I will one day get there and find out for myself.

HAn

So, I end up lying there trying to dissasociate my self with these sensations and all that ends up happing is me becomming very calm and relaxed for awhile until I become very uncomfortable from not moving. My awareness is full of the sense of my relaxed body just lying there and I am probably on the edge of monroe's focus 10

My body always becomes very uncomfortable before I can phase, if I try it at night.  I think of this as the body trying to test the mind to see if the mind is truly asleep. First it will be an itch, then you will get the increasing feeling that your body is REALLY uncomfortable. This will drive you nuts, but you have to fight through it and try not to move. In fact, it is best to try and not think about your body at all. You might want to create a scene in your mind to get your focus off of your physical body. Pretty soon, if you don't move, you body will give up and say "well the mind must be asleep so I should probably hit the sack also" and there will be a sinking feeling where you truly have the mind awake body asleep state.

If you get to this state it would be wise to notice the blackness "behind your eyes"  (I think it is best to NEVER focus on your eyes, and try to focus on the blackness in the mind) and wait until it changes to the 3d blackness (FZero) and try and phase, or just wait for the vibrations and try and "roll out" old school style.

You are pretty close

Han
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I don't want to write it out my analogy, so I will quote Frank

Take a look at the sun. It rises in the east and sets in the west. You follow its movement from one point to the next and it appears to be revolving around us. This is obvious, because we can see it does. Unfortunately, it is us that is revolving around it.

Now, you project into the wider physical. I do not like using the term "real-time zone" because there is no such thing as "real" time and it is not a "zone". But we all kinda get what we mean so let's not complicate the issue on that score. So we project into the RTZ. You see yourself out of body. It is obvious you are out of body because you can see that you are. But what you are seeing is the equivalent of watching the sun revolving around the planet.

You have not actually gone "out" of body at all. You have simply taken a step "back", so to speak, from the front-line physical in terms of your current focus, into the wider physical. You cannot go "out" of someplace where you were never "in" in the first place. If someone moves their location from point a to point b, this logically presupposes the person was actually at point a to begin with. If I want to go out of one room into another room I have to initially be in that first room.

In terms of the body, we are not located in that first room, we are merely focused within it, as if from a distance, if you like. The analogy falls down rather quickly but imagine looking into room one from a distance through a telephoto lens, then you shift your focus to room two. In a sense, and only in a sense, this is what we are doing.

As I have said many times, people get body fixated to the extent where their whole sense of thinking becomes relative to it. But a body is merely an objective representation of the accumulation of a particular set of expectations regarding the enactment of certain types of actions within particular areas of consciousness. It holds no other purpose.

One of the most popular questions people ask me is, "Frank, what is the easiest way of me leaving my body?" You can't, there is no way at all you can leave your body. You can shift your focus of attention into the wider physical, you can shift it to Focus 2/3/4 but you cannot leave your body. There is no way you can step beyond the physical. The physical is an end result. Nothing exists outside of ourselves. Some people accept this but then start taking it way too far the other way and begin calling physical reality an illusion. I step short of that by a long way. Anyone who thinks physical reality is an illusion should walk into the nearest lamppost.

It's not that physical reality is an illusion, it's the notion of objectivity that is the illusion. To understand what I mean by that you need to study the way the subjective translates into the objective, in terms of energy. This knowledge can be gained from Focus 4 and Focus 2 experiences. Particularly in regard to the way our perception creates our reality.

I think of it as using an operating system such as Windows.  The physical is an open program on the desktop.  Most people spend there entire Wakeing lives working within that program.  When you "OBE" or phase you are simply minimizing that program and opening another to work in.  Most AP's work in the new program that has been dubbed Focus 2, however, if you minimize this one you can open a couple other ones, like Focus 3 and focus 4.  Death is closing the first program entirely.  The "RTZ" is a graphical user interface that looks like the first program, but is not.  So, when people think that it cannot be possible that everything is within us, they think we mean that ALL projection is done within the first program, and is just imagination or self delusion.  It is not.  When Frank talks about overlay experiences, he is talking (in my analogy) about the user of the computer toggling between two open windows. We would be the user of the operating system. Remember, Monroe said "We are more than our physical bodies".  I would say "We are more than our first program".

best I could do while at work

Han

I don't think it is the same thing.  When I said it looked like FZ all i meant was that all the colored dots looked 3d, and if the dots were not colored, then it would look like Fz.  

Han

The judge looked at me (He could not tell I am a God.) And he was able to sentence me. That was ridicules, first of all. He could not tell that I am not really dead. Secondly, he could not give me fair hearing. Thirdly, he could not tell I am a God.

But I waited patiently, until he finished his words. I stood up. (I am very clear minded know who I am, you need to be, too when OBE.) I was much bigger than him, because I am a god.

I said to him : "Sentence, my butt." (Pardon my french.) "First of all you could not tell I am a god. Secondly, you could not even tell I am not actually dead. And you have no ability to give fair hearings." I fired him and got a god from the kingdom of Heaven to be the "Judge". Who are able to give fair hearing and having the ability to actually view what the humans did while they were alive and judge them from there. And have the ability to see if the soul is still having live human body on earth and able to tell if the soul is a god or goddess from the kingdom of Heaven or kingdom of gods.

By the way if you are a god or goddess from the Kingdom of Heaven, you can only be judged by the Judge from the kingdom of gods, and if you are a god or goddess, you suffer no Karma. And you can not be judged, you just come back to the Kingdom of gods. But the king of all gods rules over there.

Trust me, there were a god from the kingdom of gods was judged by mistake and sent to Heaven jail and suffered unnecessary.

Later, I was informed. I was requested to be there is because there were too much complaints about wrong judgment from that judge.

ahh... the delusions of Focus 2.  I would be laughing my a*s off if so many people weren't listening to you.

My friend, read my words carefully, there are still there. I said, so far I have not found anyone left earth(I meant all the people in this site), I meant at the begin postings. Later, I did find Knightlight is able to but different method.

What?!  check out Franks and major Toms posts, and hell Adrian even wrote a book on Ap.  

There are no set rules you have to follow.  If you want to try it at that time, give it a whirl.  You just never know what might happen.  Try not to make too many rules for yourself.  Why put mental barriers in your way?

Han

He is talking about focus 2 in most post, and MAYBE Focus 3 (in Franks linear model).  Although, he packages it up like no one else can do the same (HA).  IMO, Frank is WAY beyond Sapphire in terms of projection experience and understanding of Astral projection.

However, many people love to latch on to the mystical interpretations of things because they are more "sexy/mysterious".


Han

I just remembered when I was young, I would rub my eyes softly and very slowly and stop while applying light pressure. Then I would be able to see patterns and colors. Once this happened I would let go and let the images play. I believe this is same way of focusing your inner sight. Perhaps this helps massage the muscles around the eye to allow focus. Try experimenting

It is funny that you write this because just the other day at work I was leaning on my desk with my head resting in my right hand.  It was in such a position where my right thumb was applying a fair amount of pressure to the outside edge of my right eye.  My right right thumb was pressing the outside of my eye inwards toward my nose (my eyes were closed).  Anyway, after about 5 seconds a bunch of blue dots appeared, then more colors.  While I was observing them they turned into more of a pulsing pattern formation.  Then, an exact replica, although with lots of color, of FZ (starry night-3d and all) popped into my "vision/mind".  So, if this happens with everyone I think it would give them an idea of what FZ is like.  However, my eye was a little uncomfortable for like 10 seconds afterward.

I tried to do it again just now and had to fiddle with the pressure (felt like I used more), but it worked again.  I saw the 3d blackness with a Bunch of colored lights (looks like colored Christmas lights).

just a thought
Han

IMO, it is best to do when tired.  Many feel the best time to do it is in the morning because your muscles, limbs, and mind are already relaxed

On the weekdays, I usually do it at night before bed and it takes a while until I can achieve the mind awake/body asleep state, so usually if I am having trouble I have a bad habit of just turning over and going to bed.  I have decided that it may be beneficial to have a separate chair (like lachaise lounge) to do my projecting from, because my bed is a trigger for me to sleep.  However, I have projected/phased from my bed, so this is not really NEEDED, it just may help a little.

Han

My experiences so far confirm Franks theory that there is no "Out of Body" and it is all an inward process.  So, I don't think there would be any correlation.

The traditional theory of the "astral body" leaving the physical body would assume that the physical body is 21 grams lighter during sleep than during waking consciousness.   As far as I know, this is not the case.  Although, you are lighter in the morning because not as much food or water is in you as through out the day.

han

With Franks noticing exercise i have successfully Phased after about 20min-1hr.

I don't care if Sapphire thinks he is a god or not, that is not the issue here.  It is the things HE KNOWS to be true that I care about.  These things are the same old "scare the Sh*T out of you" mystic dogma that should have died out 300 years ago.  I will give examples:

1. Devils will steal your soul-negs are everywhere myth:  When I first started to OBE is was scared Sh*tless of these "creatures", and this stupid belief really stunted my progress.  It wasn't until I started to read Franks post that the "ball droped" and I realized and confirmed that focus 2 is really inside of me and not outside.  Recently, when i phase to focus 2 I am much more calm and collected and think more about going to focus 3 than looking for a neg around every corner.  This is how you make progress.  I love when Sapphire says that he is the ONLY one that can handle these creatures.  I laughed at this because that is what EVERYONE does when they first go to Focus 2--KILL ALL NEGS (astral warrior type Cr*P)

2.  He is the only one that can leave earth:  IS HE SERIOUS?  with phasing I usually don't go to focus 1(or the real time zone), and so I guess I leave earth also.  Same "I am more enlightened than you, so you are not ready to learn argument" that mystics have used to keep themselves above there subjects for centuries.  Has he ever heard of William Bulhman, Robert Bruce, Frank, Major Tom, Adrian, etc X 100 people here!  He is the only one that can leave earth--HA (too funny).  


All I can say is to use critical thinking.  You can be open minded, but I am guessing most of you are young.  This is fine because you still have an open mind, however there are always people out there that will want to fleece you to prop up themselves (whether monetarily or otherwise).  Sapphire just sounds like he is coming to conclusions based upon ego masturbation.

oh, and Sapphire I bet that EVERYONE here knows about Remote viewing.  It is also very easy to just list "psychic skills" as if you can do them.  Watch, I can do it too:

Levitation
Teleportation
Bilocation
ESP
Transmutation
etc

Han

But can`t you see what is happening here ? Cultism at its highest.
The whole thing sounds like: I am a God because I know it, I can OBE with ease, and beings told me I am GOD, besides that I can leave Earth - no one else can. What did you say John ? You had a similar experience ? Let me check something for a second.... Yes, I was right, you are a Red Dot God - which is half immortal (whatever that means, maybe you live half the life of an immortal god - so that means you will basically live for ever - still you`re not a God but a Red Dot God). Yes I've been to Hell - and I must tell you, believe it or not - it is REALLY HOT there (yes they have chocolate in hell too - but it's all melted), and I wanted to help - but then I saw what that man did in his life after his parents were killed in his face in his childhood, yes he deserves to be tormented forever. If i say so it must be so i guess, no ? I am a God after all. What Witan, what did you say ? I have a big ego or I'm trying to deceive others ? Hmmm let me check something - yes, i was right again, wow, you are a demon trying to deceive these angels with cool powers to find the truth.

 Thank you Witan,it was about time that someone took him (god/sapphire) to task.  I hope Sapphire is a 15 year old boy and not some 35 year old looking to start a cult.  Now I know that some believe that we are all "gods", and this may or may not be true.  That is not what I wanted to discuss, it was Sapphire's holier than thou attitude that needed to be astrally B*tch slapped.

It reminded me of those mystics that rank OBE as one of the "highest" forms of spiritual enlightenment that only they can achieve.  Then, the proceed to act as gurus telling people they are not ready to learn that technique yet, so they get this "shut up, fall in line and worship me attitude"  Thank god we are quickly learning that all this mystical dogma is just a bunch of hogwash, or at best covered in thick layers of crud.

But there are risk involved, because when you are out of earth, lots of other gods and beings will see you. They might capture you, so I do not recommend you get out of the earth. I was just very daring and careless about if I was able to make it back (if you can not make it back, your human body might become "Vegetable" the body is here, but the soul was gone.) I was captured many times, but because I have a god status, and own many magic powers, so I always make it to rescue myself and make it to come back

Total and utter garbage, there is NO evidence of this.  Almost everybody that OBE's knows this is garbage. Most likely you make these demons you slay

There is no way you can tear me down, trust me, my friend. You do not have the experience, does not mean other will not.

I tell you why I know I am a high rank God. At this moment, I have not found anyone make it to leave earth yet. And I have already make it to the kingdom of all gods many times, and almost countless

Ummmm............. You do realize what forum this is, don't you?  I mean, you know that the topic of discussion here is Astral Projection, right?

Actually, I take back everything I just said.  I didn't want to say this but I am also a high rank god. In fact, I am higher than you are, by a couple orders of magnitude.  So,  I will have reign over the souls of people and earth, and because I am nice I will give you rein over the souls of dust mites, and lice.  Reign well my friend, reign well!  

Han Solo

There is one kind of vampire that rules above all others, they go by many names but most people know them as the Politician.  They have the actual ability to drain people of their energy, money, freedom, and power!  

I say "drive a stake through all their hearts"

Han

From what I gather, all projections are actually an inward process and not outward.  The outward progression from the physical to the "real time zone" is just the illusion of an "outward" projection. So, you can project while driving, flying, or whatever.  

However, NEVER try to project if the tires of the car have below 85.3321% rubber content.  See, I can make projection rules too!  

Han

Those people are weird, they don't even write in English!

This is area that is becoming very popular now a days.  I have a few reservations of channeled information and was wondering if people can clear them up.  

1.  What channelers are getting "real information" from real "spirits" and are not either frauds or people channeling their subconscious mind.   What about "the Wonders" www.thewonders.com.  You can hear them in the archives from www.newsforthesoul.com.  The crimsoncouncil.com?  Seth? etc.  

2.  Why is channeled information so vague?  Also, they tend to say the same stuff over and over.  

3.  How do we know that these spirits don't just want to be worshiped as gods and create a following to increase their own influence.

4.  Is this any different than getting information from entities in focus 3 of Franks model, or information from the "Astral"?  Are entities in the astral this Vague?

5.  With all the information out there to learn, why do people always ask the channeler stupid stuff like when are they going to find their "soul mate".  Hell, I could give them guidance on this, for instance "GET OUT OF YOUR HOUSE--do you think you are going to find them while meditating?"    

Han Solo

I think of this as the body trying to test the mind to see if the mind is truly asleep.  First it will be an itch, then you will get the increasing feeling that your body is REALLY uncomfortable.  This will drive you nuts, but you have to fight through it and try not to move.  In fact, it is best to try and not think about your body at all.  You might want to create a scene in your mind to get your focus off of your physical body.  Pretty soon, if you don't move, you body will give up and say "well the mind must be asleep so I should probably hit the sack also"  and there will be a sinking feeling where you truly have the mind awake body asleep state.  

If you get to this state it would be wise to notice the blackness behind your eyes and wait until it changes to the 3d blackness (FZero) and try and phase, or just wait for the vibrations and try and "roll out" old school style.

Hans Solo

Although i have obtained better dream recall, i still cannot seem to become conscious in a dream. Is this again something that will develop naturally with time?

 To obtain even better dream recall start a dream notebook.  I am going to get back into this myself, because it has a profound effect on remembering dreams and creating lucid dreams.  It became a bother to me because at first I could only remember 1 dream a night, however, pretty soon I had to write 5-9 dreams down everyday.  I am not sure it was because of intent or not but starting a dream journal will GREATLY increase the number of dreams you will remember during the night.  ALso, the dreams will become more vivid and after about a week and a half I had my first lucid dream (which is awesome the first time you have one),  When you are in trance keep telling yourself that you will wake up inside your dream.  This should help.

Is API in focus 2 or focus 3 of Franks linear model?  I think this could clear up a lot on this question.  Because, with my understanding, if it is focus 2 then every ones API could be different, and It would be hard to meet up with Astral pulse members.  However, if it is in Focus 3 then every ones API should be similar and people should be able to meet each other.  Maybe someone more advanced could comment on this.

He give an exact description of Fzero here:

While in Paris in 1883, a prominent French manufacturer sent me an invitation to a shooting expedition which I accepted. I had been long confined to the factory and the fresh air had a wonderfully invigorating effect on me. On my return to the city that night, I felt a positive sensation that my brain had caught fire. I was a light as though a small sun was located in it and I passed the whole night applying cold compressions to my tortured head. Finally the flashes diminished in frequency and force but it took more than three weeks before they wholly subsided. When a second invitation was extended to me, my answer was an emphatic NO!

These luminous phenomena still manifest themselves from time to time, as when a new idea opening up possibilities strikes me, but they are no longer exciting, being of relatively small intensity. When I close my eyes I invariably observe first, a background of very dark and uniform blue, not unlike the sky on a clear but starless night. In a few seconds this field becomes animated with innumerable scintillating flakes of green, arranged in several layers and advancing towards me. Then there appears, to the right, a beautiful pattern of two systems of parallel and closely spaced lines, at right angles to one another, in all sorts of colors with yellow, green, and gold predominating. Immediately thereafter, the lines grow brighter and the whole is thickly sprinkled with dots of twinkling light. This picture moves slowly across the field of vision and in about ten seconds vanishes on the left, leaving behind a ground of rather unpleasant and inert gray until the second phase is reached. Every time, before falling asleep, images of persons or objects flit before my view. When I see them I know I am about to lose consciousness. If they are absent and refuse to come, it means a sleepless night. To what an extent imagination played in my early life, I may illustrate by another odd experience.

Well guys, we are in good company

Hans solo