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Oh I'm sure it'll be kept off the television until it's excruciatingly clear. Then maybe passed off as a comet. NASA shows Photoshopped pictures of it etc etc

Wow, how do you go about killing a psychic threat? (you can tell me in a PM if you don't want it public. I think I'd like to join in)

Small steps will keep you safe, haha. Kurt certainly dove into this thing head-first - I offered a little tidbit about aligning crystals and magnets for psychic effect, and he went and powered it up with cables! Some people like to run before they walk.

Greys tend to be unfeeling for a reason - it's a psychological defense. If a psychic predator gets a hold of you and you panic or get really mad, they win. You're firing off a physical defense against a psychological threat. But if you're mentally unresponsive to them, there's nothing they can do. You can't easily get into a Grey's mind and scare them into doing things.

I've learned to spot when a psychic predator gets into my dreams and starts manipulating things. Usually they'll jerk me around or create false awakenings. Now I just laugh and make fun of them, and they leave out of frustration

some do, yeah. Everyone's a predator around here. I think it's also the reason we have an instinctive fear of dark and underground areas

This will sound funny, but, you might also look into the summoning methods of witchcraft.

Hi there, hi Kurt... I´ve seen them 3 times; first time was when I start to explore the OBE´s, I just saw a little gray pop in my windows beside my bed I woke up all freaked haha.

Second time was when I started to see numbers secuences on watches, tickets, computer files, etc, etc, most of it 1111 or 4444, with incredible coincidences, and one night I had a OBE, I was disposed to fly and explore but as you say, they limited my will mentally, some kind of disturbing intense vibration in my brain lay me down, I couldn´t defeat the attack and I don´t know why they attack me, that was the most scary OBE I ever had, I didn´t see them, but I mentally know they were doing that. When I look to the window I saw the sky in red and the classic space ships like flying discs, my bed was full of flies instead my body.

The third time was last week, I was in the vibration part when I noticed a flashing green image of a gray face, like a hologram.

I think they are bad guys, but I´m not pretty sure, just one to know what you think of them, what is them purpose or what they do to humans?

I would thank your help.

A lot of grey-types see themselves as the victims, like the rest of us. There have been plenty of instances where they were victimized by humans or one of our off-world cousins. They are not always that rational, and not always beyond racism.

If you know how to go into a trance or lucid dream, you might want to find the source of these happenings. It might not be a grey at all, but someone trying to give them a bad reputation (or possibly giving a valid warning about certain grey types)

I would think most abductions happen without the person knowing at all. The smarter humanoids can go in, do a quick check-up, and leave without you knowing. It's just the stupider ones who get caught. Sometimes they make a noise or they fail to keep you asleep or fail to erase your memory. I had an experiment done by a few dolts who did everything wrong. One was paying so much attention to his computer that he didn't notice me moving, and didn't notice my thoughts. It wasn't scary. I just kinda laid there and played along. Another came in and tried to squirt something in my eye and I got up, lol. It ended there and they haven't been a problem since. (I think they were testing a cure for cataracts - if I translated them correctly)

From what I've observed, a lot of abductions happen because the humanoids in question are living underground in your area. You'd be surprised how common it is to have a colony beneath you. Some people live above bad colonies that constantly badger them, but then they move away and the abductions stop.   A lot of these creatures come out at night when the sun can't affect them and people can't catch them. Most are as harmless as a human (or harmful, depending on how you look at it), some are tricksters, some have business on the surface, some are just wandering. They often hide in shadows or in dark forests, often wearing hooded cloaks so you'll mistake them for a person if you happen to spot one. (many are not good at clouding minds or staying invisible, so they use ordinary stealth)

It's kinda funny to think SETI is trying to find them through radio signals from the stars

Oddly, my best information comes from sites like this one. Despite the troublesome population and administration here, the site has been more useful than even the hardcore alien sites and references. I think it's because psychics have quicker access to off-world information networks. (So while people on other sites can only speculate about the outside galaxy, one of us can contact a Grey and find out personally)

But there is one book: http://www.amazon.com/Convoluted-Universe-Book-One/dp/1886940827 - a hypnotist got information from hypnotized patients about Earth's past and the outside galaxy. Most of the information I've read from it has checked out with the facts, especially concerning Atlantis and some very obscure information about crystals

Huh, sounds pretty linear. No wonder they're so cranky. (oh no he di'int!)

Are we going to see a thread about the stuff you saw? Cause I could read that all day

Did they mention why? Is the dollar really that valuable on Nibiru?

Also, did they mention if they're part of the plans for a massacre on Earth? My sources have me leaning toward 'no' but I'm not putting it past a Sirian

I did some looking around, and in fact the Dogons said Sirius has 3 stars. At least according to this site http://www.sirianrevelations.net/star_a_b.shtml

For background: The Dogons were discovered a long time ago by Europeans, and were known for their uncanny knowledge of the stars. They descend from the ancient Egyptians, and even though telescopes had not been invented, they knew about Saturn's rings and Sirius' binary system. (adding that Saturn's rings had not always been there) Apparently they said there is a Sirius C, named Anu, which is also the name of a Greek god who I think was in conflict with Zeus - though the Dogons called it Enome Ya.

The site says Nibiru orbited Sirius C. In my trance, I saw that the symbol for Sirius C is the pyramid, so the pyramid might be the symbol of the Anunnaki. They might be the gods (and pharaohs) of ancient Egypt - having shaped it to their own liking - and it would mean the Anunnaki are still here today running things and putting their symbol - the pyramid - on American currency

This also lends evidence to the theory that Jesus descended from Egyptian nobility. You might check out the book 'Jesus: Last of the Pharaohs'. The
Dogons said there were beings called the Nommo who came from the sky thousands of years ago, and amidst all the things the Nommo said, they said one of their kind would come to Earth one day and would be sacrificed on a tree. This matched the common prophecy of the savior of Israel before Jesus showed up - they always said he'd be sacrificed on a tree. Change of plans, I guess. These Nommos were from Sirius, like the Anunnaki, like the leaders of Egypt. If all this fits together, it means Jesus was one of the Anunnaki, and was by extension a pharaoh

Wow. I've heard about manual-drive planets before, but to make a star-gate for one must use an unbelievable level of energy

I thought I was a scientist until I spent the day over on Neburu. There planet is a dyson sphere and they have the ability to enter various density levels.  

Boy, I'd like see a description of it. Where was it located?

that's not the right subject. I'm scientific but not a scientist by profession

I wasn't describing scientists at all. No percentage

I see a lot of interesting things in dreams and trances - especially trances - so I'll mark them down here.

Today I fell into a trance and I saw this symbol - a white pyramid, and I understood it symbolized a 'third branch of Sirius'.

This is interesting because a few days ago, I had a trance that showed Sirius B splitting off from Sirius A - as in, the stars used to be one until some time ago. I understood that the Sirians did this on purpose - splitting apart. There was a civil war, I think, and many Sirians split off by making their own star and putting a planet in its orbit. Thus we have the binary star of Sirius - 2 branches.

So today's trance goes off and says there's a third branch symbolized by the white pyramid. This is funny because I read, the other day, that there was a third star in Sirius supposedly seen by an astronomer (though never confirmed). Sirius was represented by three symbols in ancient Egypt: the obelisk, the star and the half dome. (pretty odd that one star would have a 3-part symbol, isn't it?) Sirians apparently had a lot of involvement in ancient Egypt as well as the modern world - Washington DC and capitals in other countries are littered with their symbols. Our flags have their symbols, our money has their symbols, and there is this constant use of the number 3 in political symbolism (always 3 colors on the flag for instance, no matter the country). Perhaps this 3rd star is real. Could anyone verify this?

actually that would be fun to watch. Think I'll join

if someone is dumb enough to say astral projection is fake, I wouldn't call them a scientist. They're on the same level as 6-day creationists

yeah people would handle it fine. In fact everyone was ready and raring to find life before NASA showed up and pulled the great geocentric-life scam. Not many people believed this 'alone in the universe' stuff before they showed up. Mars and other planets have life and structures that are plainly visible and sometimes abundant - they're just edited out of the pictures.

I wonder if we should make a thread about galactic life in general

I know there's something going on with the Moon. In a projection once, I decided to walk on the back of the Moon myself. When I got there, I was rather confused because it looked like a desert on Earth - brown sand, yellow sunset, a hint of blue in the sky though it was mostly black. I thought I had gone to the wrong planet. The only thing that tipped me off was when I looked at the sand - there were little 'craters' in it - evidence of space dust. I didn't get to see any structures I'm afraid

As for who's up there - it's not any single government, as nation-governments are a myth to begin with. It seems to be a set of organizations with various agendas and various races, humans included. I hear that at least one of them wants to wipe all life off this planet and repopulate it themselves

Gravity would make sense of the density concept, perhaps. I'm no physicist but I've studied electromagnetism quite a bit, and I think gravity might be specific to frequency. As in, particles might only exert gravity on particles of a similar frequency. So in effect, an entire object might form on one frequency without interacting with objects on other frequencies

Very theoretical, and it wouldn't imply less or greater gravity on any frequency. I think it's what happens when ghosts phase through walls

Kurt, how many planets in our universe do you think support life (approximate percentage)??

I can answer that: All of them. Even the void of space has life in it (albeit different).

But I'm guessing you mean cellular carbon/hydrogen life like we're familiar with. There are numerous planets similar to ours - we're one of many Earth-types - with civilizations and forests and oceans. There are also many desert planets similar to Mars that are sparsely inhabited. There are frozen planets like Pluto where encapsulated cities are built. I've gotten wind that even our own Moon is terraformed on the back.

Seems we're going off on another tangent, aren't we?

Could be someone talking to you. That's how I use telepathy all the time. The messages - at first - sound like rubbish because they're different from everyday thinking, but if you study them they always turn out to make sense

im gonna leave the planet soon i will return after 2012

No hurry

what smells like troll?

It was trickery that caused most of us to end up here. I'm starting to think there's a reason why people destroy the planet - that maybe it ought to be destroyed if it serves as a cage

I've seen all the Stargate shows on TV and if it's anything like that in real life, I don't think I'll be building one anytime soon.

The funny thing is, the stargates in those shows are remarkably similar to the real thing. I kinda wonder where the creators got their ideas from. The hyperspace concepts in sci-fi shows like Star Trek are close to the real thing too, at least in terms of physics.

I astral projected to a UFO a while back and spoke with the captain of the ship, he told me that they use the center of the sun to travel to other star systems as well as through time and the center of galaxies are used to travel to other galaxies. Before that I had 'never' heard of anything like that before.

I can confirm that. I've heard some stories about stars being used as gates.

I'm pretty sure a star can take objects to a different frequency, where the star becomes visible as a black hole. Stars actually cycle energy from one frequency and expel it on another, like all matter, instead of burning a finite amount of fuel as our astronomers tend to believe.

Admittedly, I'm not sure how this could be used to travel to another star system. (only to other frequencies) I hear (and partly speculate) that the more modern star crafts can expel an electromagnetic pulse that gives them a quick wormhole. Perhaps they can send a pulse into a star and amplify the effect of the wormhole. It might explain why sunspots appear