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I do believe in the existence of incarnate spirits and I also believe that we do make contact with them. But I see no reason to fear any, especially if they are perceived as negative. Any ability "they" may have in affecting you lies with in your own beliefs and responses.

Anyways, I believe that the tea bag expanded due to the heat, and moved your spoon. It quickly deflated and the spoon moved again. I know that not every tea bag responds in this manner but plenty do. Even without a teabag being present, thermal dynamics can quickly explain how your spoon moved.

Again, this is just one possibility.

You'll be surprised how quickly your fear will change to excitement once you have succeeded. Many people feel the vibrations very early in their attempts and then purposely stop the experience out of fear of the unknown. If you do this too often, you may end up having a long road ahead of you before you ever get "out". Our brains can be hardwired (develops new synapses pathways) to invoke a common response. This means that your brain will become conditioned to end the experience even before you purposely do so. As an anxiety sufferer, you probably already know this. It really will be a lot less "work" to just get out of your own way now.

My thoughts? Not much really in reference to your dream but I am sorry for what Chris Brown did to you.

As cool as Star Wars is, I know it's hard not to trust an article that refers to the movie's plot for most of it's content, but you can rest easy if we don't sign up to hold the front lines.

Besides, they said these demons have only been working on their nefarious plot for a few thousand years, that's nothing.  It takes dog crap longer to petrify than that.

Learning these things has it's positives. But it has it's negatives as well. The more I learn and "know", the farther I grow away from the woman I love. I don't feel like I am growing away, but I can see it in her reactions and attitude towards me now. It tends to desensitize you to things that in life that we should be sensitive to. Just knowing that you are more then your physical body changes your outlook/mindset on life quite a bit. This is why there are many people that start down this road, but can't continue. The physical life fights back and ground them.

This! This right here would be my only "warning" to people. It's a hard concept to explain how you grow to be more loving  and compassionate yet you are also less affected by tragedy and sensitive issues. I know longer care about concepts like justice or revenge. I would have no problem with the Hitler's of the world dying and then immediately going to their own heavens without a second of punishment. Why? Because my experiences have taught me to be accepting and nonjudgmental. I've learned lessons in the NP that ten lifetimes of reading religious books couldn't teach me.

Anyone who has read my posts knows that I'm no saint and I haven't yet risen above pettiness but when it comes to the important things, I am learning.

I forgot to answer your question about whether or not you are getting closer. The answer to that is yes, but you are no closer than when you were before you even became interested in the practice. I know that didn't help much but a better question is whether or not you are becoming more aware.

That answer is also yes. Anytime someone places an intent on having an OBE, their subconscious is busy trying to make that happen. But in most cases, people have blocks that they don't even know they have. For instance, many people want to have an OBE or an astral projection so badly that they believe they aren't afraid to. I don't think that this is true.

To have one, is to have your entire view of the world and how it works turned upside down. No matter how much you think you are ready for that, you really aren't. Now I'm not trying to say that you're gonna have a projection and then sit down, draw in your legs, hug your knees tight while rocking back and forth saying "Oh, my God, Oh, my God, Oh, my God.", over and over again.

But you may have many sleepless nights contemplating what this truth implies for life, for death, is there a God, are there *gasp* demons, so on and so forth. You may start asking people you know questions about their beliefs on the subject and the strange look they give you will make you instantly regret doing so. If your religious, it may shake your faith mildly, to the core, not at all, or make it stronger than ever. There's just no way to know until it happens.

There are exceptions of course. Some people just think, "awesome" and go about their everyday lives business as usual but just a bit more wiser.

I just wanted to say thank you for all the hard work and long hours that you spent here as a moderator for the Pulse. I know that all the long road trips for work took a toll on your well-being yet you remained dutiful and gave thoughtful and caring advice.

You shared every tip and new insights that you personally gained from your exploration. You chased down off-site links and videos anytime it was needed to help explain concepts to the new and old members alike. You actually made us all kind of lazy for doing that , but certainly not ungrateful.

You already know how much you have personally helped me but I know there are countless others as well. It's completely understandable that you needed time off from moderating but I am grateful that you are remaining an active member. In a way, I'm glad that you chose to step down from moderating because your personal advancements in the field while under your workload were phenomenal and now I can't wait to see what you can achieve with the extra time and thus help us all advance.

Many people place a lot more stock in your advice, not because you were a mod or because you have over 4,000 posts but because we just knew that you spoke from the heart, a lion's heart, no less.

So, Thank you.

Well my first two OBE's were spontaneous but yes, I did initially become aware that I was "out of body" in the room that I was sleeping in. I was in college at the time so I was dreaming about a lecture. The room was filled with about two hundred or so people and I became aware of a blue, sparkly ball of light slowly rise from the front row. I was sitting towards the back and as I stared at the light I, suddenly felt the sensation of rolling off the couch that I was sleeping on. I vividly remember the 360 degree roll and thump of hitting the floor.

I opened my eyes and was in total darkness but I was completely aware of where everything was at. I could perceive, the coffee table, t.v., the kitchen bar, and most startling, myself still asleep on the couch. I'm not ashamed to admit that I was completely terrified. My belief system at the time told me that this experience was only possible if I had died and couple that with the knowledge that I was aware that I was just "dreaming" moments earlier, I sincerely believed at that moment that I was dead. I had to be a spirit if I was viewing my own body. This seemed logical in that terrifying moment.

I know this may sound absurd to a lot of people but I was raised to avoid any talk or interest in these subjects so I was completely ignorant as to what an OBE or AP was, so my being dead seemed logical at the time. I"ve written the whole experience up here somewhere so I'm not gonna go into all of it again but I had my second spontaneous OBE a short time later and I was determined to figure out what was happening.

When I used the word "intent" in my initial post, I was referring to the fact that I was intentionally trying to have an OBE and not that I had any particular intent to go anywhere. But yes, where you intend to "go" does influence your experience but not always. Just like fear and excitement doesn't always end an experience either. I was in total fear yet it did nothing to end my first two experiences.

As you gain more experience, your beliefs and perceptions will change (probably many times) as to what is actually happening. I no longer believe that we are leaving our bodies but it is a term that isn't going anywhere soon so I use it since I have no desire to get into the semantics of it all.

Like Xanth, I also believe that we have a completely ignorant (that's a polite understatement) idea as to what dreams  really are and I try to avoid the term "lucid dream" altogether. The only difference between what most people consider a dream and what is considered an OBE is your awareness and control. But I don't expect nor do I want anyone else to adopt that ideology until their own experiences match up to this.

I went this alone for the better part of 12 years until I found the Pulse. If you read my early posts compared to my most recent ones, it is likely that you would think that I just quickly adopted the dominant thinking here but the truth is that I finally found the words and Ideas that matched what I had already come to believe on my own but was too afraid to admit due to my former religious beliefs. Even then, it still took me time to finally accept this new paradigm.

This is also why I am very ignorant of who many of the famous authors in this field and their interpretations although I have read Tom Cambell's, My Big Toe (MBT for short, remember that because it is used often), and I find it completely brilliant. I do not care about focus levels, planes, dimensions, or realms even though they may be very relevant. Terms like "raise your vibrations to enter higher dimensions" and other similar ideas aren't completely lost on me yet I pay them no mind during my projections. I still haven't had any experiences that would lead me to believe that I need to know what chakras are, much less clear them.

If having a third eye and opening it is important than I must have done so accidentally because that is another belief that I personally have not found a reason to explore further. I believe that access to all this information is an amazing thing but it can also hinder many people when they try to incorporate to many beliefs into their experience.

With all that said, I realize now that I had only progressed to a certain point and I had reached that point many years ago. I was definitely ready to gain some outside knowledge and this has enriched my experiences immensely. Sorry If i wrote more than you bargained for hopefully the answers to your questions were addressed somewhere along the way.

Hi Jesssica.

When I first learned to AP, I only referred to one book of which the titles escapes me now. That was over 13 years ago. I do not remember the exact method but that wasn't important anyhow because all I took away from it was that I needed to relax, which was a form of meditating though I never referred to it as such. I needed to maintain a non physical focus but all I really did was stare at the blackness and the not so black spots as the rest. Which I have since learned is called the noticing technique. And lastly, I was told to ignore the physical sensations which I now know are called the vibrations. The point is that I basically went it alone.

I did not worry about nor did I even know the term "third eye"'. I absolutely had no idea of what focus 10 was and I still haven't bothered to learn much about the focus levels.

I had my first intentional projection in just over a month. For now, I would say not to worry about opening your third eye ( I still haven't as far as I can tell ), focus levels, or chakras. Just find a technique that sounds good to you and then reduce it down to it's basics like I described above. Later, after you have had some experiences under your belt. that would be the time to start incorporating these ideas into your belief system if you think they will help you. I just believe that too many beginners try to pack too much into their early attempts and prolong their success because of it.

Keep trying, but drop some of the stuff that isn't necessary to project.

To go with Tom C.'s analogy, we are even lower than the bacteria in our digestive systems when it comes to seeing the bigger system.  We are worse off than the bacteria that has no ability to understand the tractors that plow and sow our crops or the fuel that runs the machinery that sustain our food chain so that they can breakdown some corn that magically appears.

I wonder if they worship our molars?

I don't have any advice as to what you should do with you lamp but I own plenty of items that belonged to deceased individuals. One of them is a .380 Browning semi-auto pistol and the previous owner committed suicide with it. He was a Vietnam vet and I was drawn to it. I restored it to factory condition and other than the initial test firing, I have not fired it since.

I have a WW2 bayonet that the previous owner said his grandfather used twice during the Battle of the Bulge. They wanted to get rid of it because they reported weird occurrences surrounding it.

I sleep on the most comfortable queen size mattress that the previous owner died in. It is comfortable beyond words.

I also wear a pair of hiking boots that were given to me by the widow of a good family friend. They too are very comfy.

I have had nothing strange happen with any of these items but then again, I never entertained the thought that something strange would occur.

I don't seek out these items but I don't avoid things just because a death is connected to them. I admit that I have a sense of duty to protect and take care of the property of vets but I don't go through any special rituals other than just to treat them with the respect that they deserve.

I don't know why people feel more comfortable believing that some outside force is responsible for everything that seems to break the laws of physics as we understand them today. In other words, they don't like to think that they are capable of doing "miraculous" things and would rather believe that some spirit is responsible for it.

You should consider that you as a being of consciousness, also have these abilities. Now I'm not saying that I have any amazing abilities personally (heck I dont even want any) but I have seen plenty of weird stuff and if I blamed it all on ghosts I would have to invest in Epson salt just to get some sleep.

I am going to butcher Tom Cambell's words now by saying that miracles and strange anomalies don't happen for the whole world to see. They happen on the fringes, meaning they occur for just a few people to witness at a time. I suppose it has something to do with how the universe/system works. If something miraculous happened for millions of people to witness, it might throw a wrench into the gears of the machine but if only a few see it, no big deal for the system.

In either case, your personal beliefs will dictate how easy or hard it is for you to deal with this all. Good luck.

Don't forget that you said both you and your husband were concentrating on the spoon the second time that it moved. Both of you were probably replaying the movement over and over in your heads and that is a lot of concentrated thought. This is but one explanation and you can go with whatever feels right to you.

Since you've been experiencing SP for many years now, " you should  be out and about" in no time. SP isn't necessary to project and quite a few who do have never even experienced SP but it is sort of a natural short cut. The next time you find yourself in this state, just think about flying or some place that you want to go and you stand a good chance of it occurring. If not, there are tons of techniques here but too many people get caught up in the technique to literally and not the intended goal behind it. Good luck.

They go straight to hell unless they blow up innocent people in the process.

An interesting thing to keep in mind is that suicide wasn't declared a mortal sin in Christianity until around 400 B.C. There were a tremendous amount of people offing themselves taking advantage of the "just accept Jesus as lord and savior" and go to heaven free pass. So thry closed that loop hole.

The truth is that nobody knows but I imagine that they go through the same process as most with maybe a little more time in the shrinks office.

I can't say whether or not retrievals are a good idea for some who are just beginning their explorations. This really just depends on how easily you accept the non physical reality and the skills you develop. Since I went the lone wolf path for so many years, I missed out on so many opportunities simply because I did not recognize what was happening. Sure, I had mastered flying, I was competent in telepathy but rarely relied on it, and I had a high success rate in achieving projections. The thing is, I just didn't know that their was any other purpost to all this other than to just really screw with my mind and make me develop a new reality paradigm.

This all changed quickly when I joined the Pulse and became exposed to the idea of retrievals. The thought of doing one instantly resonated with me. It was very long before I had my first one. I failed the first go around and wasn't aware that failure wasn't an option. You have to get the job done, you just do. So you will eventually return to the same retrieval after you have had time to reflect and gain further skills or at least, better awareness of your situation.

The feeling that you have failed can be very emotionally draining. You can also become easily obsessive over it and play it over and over in your waking mind. This can be both good and bad.

You can't force a retrieval to be your destination but when you are ready and you want to do one, the universe will respond. Someone can have years of dealing with these yet they may not possess the particular mindset or skills needed to get the job done in certain situations so sometimes a newbie may be called in for the job.

Their is also no greater feeling than knowing you have help someone or at least a part of someone break the torturous cycle they have been trapped in. I recommend that anyone who is interested in doing one, to give it a shot. After all, failure is not an option and you will return once you have gained further insight.

I have been told that these visions are hypnagogic visions and jerks waking me up and they are a medical issue. I however disagree. I believe its either stressed induced night terrors or I am actually Aping and not completely aware of it.

Instead of being a medical issue, I would just consider it the medical explanation of the condition. The jerks are quite common and can almost be violent (at least for me) but in the majority of most cases, there is nothing wrong. Please see a doctor though if you have more concerns.

I also consider night terrors to be projections that are misunderstood. Since the "condition" generally surfaces in young childhood, it can be extremely difficult explaining this to someone so young so the experiences continue to worsen.

I was glad to see that you were able to just chuckle after you became aware of what was happening when you followed the creepy lady. That's what I do as well though I admit, in the moment, it can be freaky.

I'm sure you're aware of the saying: garbage in, garbage out. Most people who suffer from terrifying projections generally seek out only the sources that affirm their fears so they have no way to break the cycle.

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It does though. I meet someone in the astral almost everytime I go o_0

Besides, although i do a lot of research, i personally like finding things out for myself rather than REsearching something. Yes, research helps a lot, but to me, research is more of a "stepping stool". It gets me started in something, but continueing with that something and eventually making my own discovery is a much more accomplishing feeling.

I don't like doing this but it's one of your favorite tactics so I will go ahead and correct you. While your generation (or maybe it's only you) may consider research as sitting at a laptop and skimming internet articles, some of us know what real research is. The re in research may imply to some that all it entails is looking up the findings of other people, but it really means to recreate their experiments and possibly improve upon them if capable. This means that a researcher has effectively conducted their own experiments and now qualifies as  someone with personal experience. You'll learn one day that you'll be expected to do a whole lot more than just read someone else's work and familiar words will have an entirely new meaning for you.  

We aren't going to allow this game of who's smarter continue much longer so please consider if that means anything to you.

You might surprise yourself at what you are are actually capable of seeing or facing down. The only fear you need to worry about having under control is the fear of succeeding and then having your whole perception of reality tossed away in a single instance. It's the very meaning of opening pandora's box.

My experience:
-Call friend on the phone (same time zone as me)
-Set a place and time in the astral to meet
-If both successfully project that night, figure out whether you have met the person you intended on meeting or not
-Usually works as long as both people have successfully projected

I am highly skeptical. I do suppose setting the location at your grand clocks locale will bypass the difficulties with having to set both a time and a place. This would be a major convenience since time and location are both subjective perceptions...in the astral.

I actually felt the same you do right now after some experiences in which I believe I was shown some past lives. I was a really baaad dude, if true. It was hard to reconcile the past acts with who I believe I am today. The good news is that this is evolution of consciousness. We can't just learn to be compassionate. We have to have bad things happen in order to learn and evolve from them. There is no catalyst for change in a static environment. Basically, someone has to be the bad guy and the chances are if we really do have many past lives then we have all been murderers, rapists, abusers, etc.

This is no comfort to someone who has been hurt and I would never recommend trying to use this rationale with the average person but it has helped me. It is also no excuse to do what you want because you're just helping someone else evolve afterall. If that's the case, you haven't evolved at all.

There is nothing we can tell you that will make up your mind and that's how it should be. This is an area that you have to explore for yourself. There isn't any known technology that can accurately measure or quantify consciousness so all we can do is share and compare experiences but comparing is over rated. If you spend all your time worrying while your experiences aren't like someone else's, then you'll just spend a lot of time worrying.

i felt evil! pure evil! and i just want to know if what happened in the movie "insideous" is not going to happen to me!!

The only way to be sure is to have your mom some pictures of you. I personally take a lot of selfies but my cell doesn't have a wide angle lens so I never get to see if the creepy old lady is there or not.

In response, I would have to ask you what you mean by "external means"? I am referring to the soul being tortured by something or someone who inhabits the same plane that the soul can freely travel in.

That's exactly what I am referring to as well. I think we can all agree that a soul or consciousness can torture themselves personally but you were referring to torture perpetuated by an outside force.

Yeah, it's possible that I could misinterpret something. But usually it's kind of hard to misinterpret something when it's a first-hand experience.

I would have to strongly disagree with this statement. We (humans) misinterpret what we see and hear all the time and often it is detrimental to a third party.

AAAAAA, there is no conspiracy to single you out and argue with you just for the sake of arguing. It's just that you make it too easy. You have made many statements in the past such as, "that's just stupid" for example. There are many more to choose from but I don't have the time or desire to dig them up.

We are a community here and like most communities we defend each other but that doesn't mean that you can't become a valued member yourself. I have already told you that we think you are highly intelligent...now, if only we could steer you away from the dark side.

Well, when most people think of themselves, they are thinking that what they see is truly them. I would argue that your body, is not you. Your SOUL is you. To define your soul, I would tell you that you are not Szaxx, but that you hear and see everything that Szaxx does.

This next part is kind of a "gray area" if you will. Of course, I'm not saying this is fact, because I cannot really prove it. But a while back when I trained my eyes to be sensitive toward different light (speaking of auras) , I noticed that I was able to see auras, as well as the astral body. So I would also argue that your "soul" also takes the form of its own body.

I think you will find that most of us here agree in large part with what you are saying in this post. But when you invoke the idea that souls can be tortured through external means (vs. self imposed), then you start to lose people. I'm not saying that it isn't possible but I've never seen it and other than you and religious zealots, I don't know anyone who believes it. I realize that just because we don't believe in something doesn't mean that it's not possible.

But you made the claim that souls can be tortured and and I would really like to know how you came about this "fact". Did you personally see it or was it written in a book by an author that you happen to place a lot of trust in. And if you did see it, is there no room for the possibility that you were misinterpreting what you saw? Remember that what you see in the astral is based on what is transmitted as well as what is received. A corruption in either will result in faulty communication.

edit: Case in point- You seem to react with hostility every time someone says something contradictory to what you believe.