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I get what you're saying about the difference between "God" and "gods", although a lot of what you're saying seems a bit far out. Could you start from the beginning? How did you get started with this research?

Its more like taught than researched, and a lot of logical conceptualization. Though I probably left out a lot of the back round of how I came to these conclusions so it's may be a bit difficult to follow.

Sorry I can't say more at the moment, I'm a bit of edge with something going on right now. Could you specify a more precise question for me to answer?

I understand.  I like to call myself 'spiritual' as the division between religions is 'man made' which has been polarising people and societies and is getting a bit out of control - and I don't really want to get involved.  I was brought up as a Christian and have been a good one until about 10 years ago.  These days I read metaphysical books, meditate, attend psychic/healing, OBE classes (and attempt OBE of course! I've had 3 so far and several paranormal experiences) and I come in here to learn from the pros.  I'm pretty open minded.  Is that sufficient info?

I like how you say "the division between religions is 'man made'" That is very true except there are also political divisions between the religions also. In the sense that the beings that many call gods negated over the lands that they wished to spread their mythology.

Simply put godhood is essentially a social status much like aristocrat. The only defining factor is power, much like humans gain power though utilization of money, gods are powerful because of the amount of chi they have at their fingertips. The concept is a bit difficult to relay because western society has a radically different meaning to the word god than the way I am using it.

Christan's and other Abrahamic religions are a bit more difficult to handle because I am defining a god as a particular type of being, much like a species, but within western society "God" is depicted as reality it self. There is actually a very interesting story about YWHW to go with that, but that is a story for another time and place.

To clarify, gods aren't as specal as most make them out as. Some do have enough power to create planets and races but they do not override the laws of reality. Though they do exist in a part of reality that allow any being, even a human, to have a surreal control of their surroundings there are still laws of physics that they must conform to.

How do I know any of this? Well, simply, I know one of these beings that we would call a god. Serdyn, son of Loki, he is quite the odd fellow. Serdyn has been living as a human for quite a few life times now. Familiar with the term avatar?

I have a few other contacts but their stories are a bit too much to speak of right now. I'll be bombard with enough questions as it is for now, so for another time.

Hey Clockwork, I'm very curious.  Who are your contacts?  Thanks in advance.

Venus

This is where I must ask of your current religious beliefs and ask you to abandon them. They will do nothing but to hinder your comprehension.

Before we move on with this question I must ask what religious affiliation would you best identify with? I know it seems to be an odd question but my meaning will be clear soon.

i'm sorry, but i thought that you were using levity.  i don't mean to offend.  i can delete my last post if you'd like.

blessings to you for the holiday.   i have honestly been interested in your stories.

No hard feelings, I didn't quite get your meaning.

uumm, okay.  this is an exciting climax to the astral barrier story, lolol.

Excuse me?

Just don't kill yourself when 2012 comes and nothing happens.

Ugh, I get enough of that crap from a douche bag friend of mine. (He watches too many alien encounter and cult documentaries) Thank god I'm leaving sometime soon.

If nothing dose happen I'll just move back to where I'll be hanging for the next 3.5 years. I am not a petty person, I'm not going to weigh my entire life on this event, no matter how large it may be to me. There are many roads to take and I will not let failure lead me to a dead end nor a trip into the ditch.

which realms are you specifically referring to?  there are perhaps infinite realms.

It's really just a blanket term to me right now. I'm no where near familiar enough with the operating and layering function of the realms so maybe details about the realms are a poor question to ask me. I will be looking into this for the next few years, I'm still learning. At this point I really only have a few odd secondhand stories to tell which really aren't of much interest beyond diarrhea and giggles.

I'm a bit sleepy right now so I may have to get back to you later on any questions but ether way you could ask about the nature of reality or life that is native to the realms. You could ask more about the barrier/veil. Or my favorite, religion.

What is there next to say? I prefer answering questions.

No problem. I tend to know much in which most are ignorant of. But its really none of my business

I just share to those who will listen

Its all pretty much the same, along with the iron in the soil of the mountains and the iron in the blood of your body. The only real difference is that the energy already in your soul is easier to utilize because it is already in tune with your system.

Like a sacrifice?

First you have to get the concept that chi and other spiritual energies are just like physical matter of the "astral" or "realms" if you will. Here is a simple comparison. Matter is to our bodies as chi/spiritual energy is to our soul.

And second the "astral" or "realms" are just a more-general reality to our own. In essence the realms are identical to our physical reality except for the laws governing a more-general reality are them selves more-general. This makes for a reality that simply has more options within its laws of physics.

Such constructs are made of spiritual energy, the same kind that makes up your soul and most of the time when you'll be making a simple construct you will be making it out of your own soul's energy. At this point my previous statement of "it's made of souls" is no different from saying anything carbon based is "made of bodies" but I will tell you that the creation of the veil quite literally tore the souls, of those participating in the creation, out of their bodies. Though I can not say exactly the reason or meaning of it. No one cared enough to do any proper research so little is known or my contacts care little of scientific curiosity to relay any research that has been done.

I think its made of souls. XP Anyways, it just dampens activity, dosen't always completely prevent. It's likely that your telepathic sense will become stronger once the veil comes down. this Halloween it was relatively weak and I had a pretty easy time casually sensing abiant energy.

Its a real construct to prevent the utilization of energy or "magic" if you will. Apparently Earth is actually quite valuable land and there where a good amount of battle over it. The war was going no where so some decided to put up the barrier so that battles couldn't be conducted. or something like that.

Um, the veil I am talking about suppresses any type of energy conversion from spiritual types to kinds commonly known in our physical reality. I.E. kinetic (telekinesis), thermal (Pyrokinesis) and the like.

you might know it better by the name "The Veil" Not really that sure of what other barriers it could be confused with.

Heh, a friend of mine thinks I'm part of a crazy suicide cult. One person dose not make a cult.

I'm quite heavily fire based, My first use of fire actually meted a relatively strong ice spell. It burnt the chakra paths in my arms the first time. I need to work of water cause its flow will help me learn lightning. (Just a note I haven't been able to bring this to the physical plain... yet)

sorry for being so cryptic. A friend was just telling me the risks in letting too much information out.

Let me simply say that the nature of reality that we know it now (how limited humans are spiritually speaking) Is actually quite unnatural. The barrier coming down is a very wait upon event, for many.

Interesting enough, after the barrier stops its inhibiting act, a good amount of people will, just about literally, be superhero like. Its quite the strong barrier.

I was looking for a place to see if I could find any insight on a dominating issue of mine.

Essentially I will soon be preparing for the up coming events in 2012 though I probably shouldn't say too much.

The events them self are going to be quite extraordinary. On December 23 2012 a barrier, erected approximately 50,000 years ago, will come down this day. Which will allow for this fabled spiritual awakening. This barrier separates us from our connection to the spiritual world by suppressing any attempt of utilize the energies of of higher planes.

Oh the excitement of what will come. I can guarantee that what will come will be quite interesting.