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First, psy-vamps don't pull out "all the positive energy"...they take energy period, they're not capable of picking the pattern.  Whatever you have, that's what they take, in the same measures.

Yes, if your energy is drained below a certain point, it can cause depression and immune system reduction, as a temporary effect, until your energy level rises back to normal levels.
Most psychic vampires these days do not do this as a matter of course, if they are aware of what they are doing.  In fact, there is a movement in the psy-vamp community toward consentual feeding, meaning they only take energy from those who they have specifically asked, and gained consent from.  It's an ethical move that should be encouraged, IMO....in other words, don't condemn all psy-vamps without regard to their behavior, and don't ostracize them....if you cast them out, why should they care about you?

Now, if someone does try to drain you, in the vast majority of cases, they are not going to be looking for a fight.  A sharp tug back on the link, then release, is enough to cause most of them to give up and seek elsewhere.  It lets them know that you are aware of what they are doing, and will put up a fight.  A tug of war is just as uncomfortable for them as it is for you, whether they win or not...it's not worth the effort when easier targets are around.

In the case of a deliberate vamp attack--that is, the person intends to hurt you by vamping, they're not merely after your energy--then other tactics are in order.  

Most of these tactics require a fairly high amount of knowledge and experience with energy working.  If your shields are not adequete to prevent vamping, and pulling back does not work, you can attempt to overload them by rapidly changing the speed of the energy flow.  You may also try throwing earth energy into the link, or grounding the link to a ley-line, then blocking your end (ouch).

By all means, attack back--if you can hurt them, they may just decide to give it up as a bad job.


--Winged Wolf
"I will stare at the sun until its light doesn't blind me, and I will walk into the fire, 'til its heat doesn't burn me, and I will feed the fire...."

Moving it bodily outside, and shielding your home, will get rid of it.  But, why be afraid of a ghost, anyhow?


--Winged Wolf
"I will stare at the sun until its light doesn't blind me, and I will walk into the fire, 'til its heat doesn't burn me, and I will feed the fire...."

Why are you afraid of your grandfather?


--Winged Wolf
"I will stare at the sun until its light doesn't blind me, and I will walk into the fire, 'til its heat doesn't burn me, and I will feed the fire...."

Yeah, it is...better to ask a good friend rather than a random stranger, though, if you want actual help rather than to annoy someone.
Truth is, there are a lot more people who need help than there are people who can help--and of those, many have other things to do, too.  So, just keep that part in mind.


--Winged Wolf
"I will stare at the sun until its light doesn't blind me, and I will walk into the fire, 'til its heat doesn't burn me, and I will feed the fire...."

I always just shielded them all, one at a time if necessary, and used a bit of force, or a "razor" construct to remove them from their attachement point.  You shield the main body first to help prevent it from sending out more tendrils while you track down the ones that are already there.


--Winged Wolf
"I will stare at the sun until its light doesn't blind me, and I will walk into the fire, 'til its heat doesn't burn me, and I will feed the fire...."

We'll see, Nita....
I tend to prevent things I'm trying to kill from exiting in that fashion.  But something larger, it's usually easier to just beat them up and let them go, or contain them somehow, rather than destroying them outright.  
It's the smaller entities that are easier to destroy.

I don't know a demon from whatsit, frankly.  I only know what people CALL demons and such.  There seem to be a wide range of sizes, intelligence levels, and abilities among them.
If you'd call the thing with 'tentacles' that someone tried to summon through a portal, that I had opportunity to help shove back where it came from a demon, I'd say, sure, fine, whatever.


--Winged Wolf
"I will stare at the sun until its light doesn't blind me, and I will walk into the fire, 'til its heat doesn't burn me, and I will feed the fire...."

Hmmm....yes, it's possible for an entity to merely use you as a favored feeding stopover, as it were.  It would generallly leave you, and go elsewhere during that time, though, rather than remaining attached to you.  Most of the entities that attach themselves seldom or never leave their host.  An entity that did leave, might "install" an anchor--an energy structure that it merely needs to dock with to link fully to you, rather than having to go through a complex linking process all over again.

However, what seems most likely to me in your case is that as you bring up your shields and get to work, you're getting BETTER at this.  It's not that they are getting weaker, but instead that you are getting stronger.
Your description of the regeneration of the entities you were removing is precisely the reason you have to track down all the tendrils, if any, when you go to remove an individual spirit--if you've got them all, then you can be sure you're not leaving anything behind to regenerate.


--Winged Wolf
"I will stare at the sun until its light doesn't blind me, and I will walk into the fire, 'til its heat doesn't burn me, and I will feed the fire...."

Basically, if someone is strong enough, because the shield is generally "hollow" or less dense inside, they can shake it until a person's nervous system gets pretty well rattled.


--Winged Wolf
"I will stare at the sun until its light doesn't blind me, and I will walk into the fire, 'til its heat doesn't burn me, and I will feed the fire...."

Sorry I've been away, I was having connection problems.

Ok--skin tight shields versus bubble shields.  If something damages your "aura", wait 5 minutes.  Your body generates the energy that makes it up, it has no permanent structures in it.  What you want to protect is your nervous system, and associated energetic systems, and those are inside your body.
If you make JUST a bubble shield, someone strong can come up and shake it  until you rattle, if you get my drift.
As for psychic vampires, it's hard to make any type of shield to completely block one of them.  Much of the time the best way to deal with that kind of attack is to fight back.  In the vast majority of cases, they're not interested in a fight and will look for an easier target.

Entrenched parasites--first, find out where they are, and track down all their little tendrils or attachment points.  Then, build a VERY strong shield around them, making sure you encompass the whole thing.  Draw the shield in so that they are forced into a sphere, and pull it out.
I've done plenty of these.
You can also hit the "main body" with controlled psi-blasts until it fragments, if the entity is too strong to lift otherwise--that will weaken or injure it enough to use the above method.

If you don't fight back, you're going to get beat up.  If you do fight back, sometimes you might get beat up, but probably less often.
Yes, you do need a backup plan in case you come up against something that can get through or take out your shields.  However, you should be continually improving your shields.
You will learn to work through them--you know how you made them, your brain just has to get used to dealing with them....and it will, in less than a month, if you keep your shields up full time.

As for how you charge your skin--the same way you'd charge your hand, just over your entire body.  Push energy into your skin, and encourage the nerves there to produce more energy.
You expected all this to be quick and easy?  



--Winged Wolf
"I will stare at the sun until its light doesn't blind me, and I will walk into the fire, 'til its heat doesn't burn me, and I will feed the fire...."

Thanks!  Here's another update, and an address for those wishing to send cards.  (Forwarded by request):


"Dear Friends:

It's been an eventful day.  This morning, we had a meeting with Chuck's
medical team at Waukesha Memorial.  After reading his latest CAT scan, they
had found that Chuck has experienced  damage to his pancreas-this wasn't big
news-but  it was more than previously thought, and on this basis, they felt a
referral to an Endocrine Surgeon  at another hospital was in order.  This
doctor is an expert on the endocrine system - in fact our primary said that
if a family member of his was in a similar situation, this is the doctor he'd
recommend.  Chuck agreed to the referral, and the wheels were put in motion.  
I heard from the discharge planner within 2 hours, the surgeon had accepted
Chuck, and there would be a bed available at Froedert Memorial Luthern
Hospital at the Regional Medical Center  just on the western outskirts of
Milwaukee County.  The hospital & complex is associated with the  Medical
College of Wisconsin.

He was transferred at approximately 5PM, and he & the transport team arrived
about 5 minutes before I did.  Once he was somewhat settled, in came his
Doctor, with his Resident and two interns.  They assessed Chuck's current  
situation, and they felt that Chuck should go back on the dreaded
Naso-gastric tube.  Unlike the first time, this time, he was not sedated, and
wasn't on a steady morphine drip.  Needless to say, it was traumatic.  He's
having a difficult time with the tube, and is decidedly unhappy he agreed to
the procedure .  I stayed WAY past normal visiting hours to get Chuck settled
down, and reassured him I'd be back  tomorrow morning to be with him- If I
can squeeze in a few hours of work, I'll try to - right now Chuck is my
primary concern and responsibility - and that's why we have personal time; to
deal with  crises.

Once again, it sounds worse than it really is- he WILL make it, but the
transition  was rather overwhelming for him, and he will need time to adjust.
He's going to be there for weeks at the minimum, so your cards and notes and
most of all your continuing  positive energies can and do help.

New Address is ;
Chuck Cosimano 3SW - Rm 18
c/o Froedert Hospital
9200 W. Wisconsin Ave
Milwaukee, WI 53226

Donna for the Daggers"


--Winged Wolf
"I will stare at the sun until its light doesn't blind me, and I will walk into the fire, 'til its heat doesn't burn me, and I will feed the fire...."

Nope, I'm pretty darned sure I've seen the outsides, the insides, and all the basic components of at least a couple of demons, in the process of making them "deceased".
I even managed to alter the behavior of one of them, in essence taming it, using invasive programming.


--Winged Wolf
"I will stare at the sun until its light doesn't blind me, and I will walk into the fire, 'til its heat doesn't burn me, and I will feed the fire...."

It can block any psi if you construct it properly.

It's not just the people who didn't know, and have learned their lesson now...but there's an amazing number who have a problem with entity attacks, and STILL fail to even try to learn how to shield, so they continue to have problems over and over.


--Winged Wolf
"I will stare at the sun until its light doesn't blind me, and I will walk into the fire, 'til its heat doesn't burn me, and I will feed the fire...."

There's a ton of stuff out there supporting both our views, and only a fraction of either is credible.

That's why it's important to test it for yourself.  If demons weren't made of any of the same sorts of energy we are, they couldn't use energy from us.  Unless you're claiming they somehow convert it, in which case we could covert it back.....
Negative emotions are just a pattern.  They are unpleasant, so we call them negative.  That doesn't mean they have no good purpose, or are innately harmful to us, nature doesn't let mistakes like that live.

Being a person who can perceive these energy types, the vast majority of the spirits people call demons are made of a combination of faith and life energy--that is, the energy produced by peoples' beliefs, and soul energy just like ours.  They need more of the same.
Angels do, too...people offer it to them freely, though.
Same components, different critters, and the primary difference is their intent/pattern.
And again, just because it feels like a nice, white, fluffy bundle of love, doesn't mean that it's not just using that as a disguise to get in close enough to prey on you.
Do demons come from "elsewhere"?  I have no idea, but if they do, there must be a source there for the same energies they take from us.
They aren't made of anything else.


--Winged Wolf
"I will stare at the sun until its light doesn't blind me, and I will walk into the fire, 'til its heat doesn't burn me, and I will feed the fire...."

Oh, I agree absolutely that most spirits aren't made of the same thing we are, energy-wise.  But that's true no matter what their intentions.  Angels and demons, for example, ARE made of the same energy types--as each other, not the same as us (at least, not in the same ratios).

However, what I don't agree on is that an energy-type that reacts badly with our system is "negative".  Is hard radiation negative energy?  No, it's just a type that doesn't get on well with us.  It's too humanocentric to consider an entity to be "negative" just because it's made of incompatable energy.  It may bear no ill-will toward us whatsoever, and in fact there are many entities that fit that description.

However, most of the entities that prey on us do so because they ARE made, at least in part, of the same energy we are--that's why they want to take more of it from us.
Take one energy type from an entity, and rid it of all pattern, and it's just pure energy of that type...it doesn't have a negative or positive spin.  (In fact, most psychic energy is probably negatively charged, but that's a physics thing).
Psi energy is psi energy, no matter where it comes from.  It's the same for all the energy types.  Don't mistake the pattern for the energy type.  If you blew it to bits, would it still be "negative"?  Energy is neutral, when it has no pattern.
I encourage people to test this for themselves without bias.

If we were truly made up of different energy than the entities that prey on us, then they would have no use for us at all.



--Winged Wolf
"I will stare at the sun until its light doesn't blind me, and I will walk into the fire, 'til its heat doesn't burn me, and I will feed the fire...."

The only time I've been effectively attacked was before I learned how to shield properly.
My shields are 24/7.  If something came along that could break them, and I couldn't drive it away with a counterattack, I'd ask friends/mentor for help, of course.  So far, this hasn't happened.  My shields have held against everything/everyone that's tried to attack me.


--Winged Wolf
"I will stare at the sun until its light doesn't blind me, and I will walk into the fire, 'til its heat doesn't burn me, and I will feed the fire...."

No, I don't think there's any difference in the energy types.  Because when you reduce them to base energy, it's all the same.
The only difference between a "neg", a "positive", or however you want to categorize entities is their PATTERN.  Just as in people, in their brains--the difference is in their personality.
It doesn't matter what they are made of.  Besides, categorizing entities that way is unproductive in the extreme.  It would be like saying some animals are good, and some are bad.  It's silly.  They do what they do in order to survive.  It's no different with entities.  An entity that is a parasite has no essential differences from a physical tapeworm.  It's a beastie, it doesn't harbor malice.  It's not "unevolved", and it doesn't need to be taught a lesson.  It does what it does in order to survive, because that is what it is.

Sure, some more intelligent entities do have emotions like malice, or kindness, or whatever.  That's a function of their individual personalities--their pattern.  A critter that feeds on an emotion like anger has no essential difference from one that feeds on love--each may induce a person to create their favored food through influencing them psychically.  One is not therefore evil or negative because of this.  It's not good for your health, but it's not EVIL.  It's doing what it needs to do in order to survive.  It may not be fun to be somewhere other than the top of the foodchain, but that's nature.

It's also far too simplistic to label entities in this matter.  It does them a true disservice, and it's dangerous because it doesn't allow you to make any accurate predictions about their behavior.
I've heard of demons showing compassion, and of entities normally considered benevolent doing damage to people.  A great many entities might help or harm a person, depending on the situation and on their own whim.  They can be individuals, JUST like us.

Some entities throw off energy that seems disruptive.  Many don't.  Not all of the disruptive ones are harmful to people, and not all of the ones that aren't disruptive are friendly.  Don't think that just because something makes itself look like an angel of pure white light with nothing but good intentions and perfect harmony, that that's what it IS.  Also don't mistake something you perceive which has a meaning to you (like a color) for something that has an objective reality.  Many times, a psychic's brain will use certain impressions as a code, to help the person consciously deal with information they learn about the energy around them.  

Give entities the same consideration you would living things.  They are not good or bad, though they may be helpful or harmful to you.  Beavers build dams by chewing down trees--destruction and creation, reorganization, these can all be present in the same being, and usually they are.  This is, as they say, true above as below.

Sure, it makes things more complicated.  It means there's no way you can tell at a quick glance if an entity is friendly or harmful.  You have to look deeper.  But believing otherwise is sure to get you into serious trouble one day.




--Winged Wolf
"I will stare at the sun until its light doesn't blind me, and I will walk into the fire, 'til its heat doesn't burn me, and I will feed the fire...."

Nah, honestly very few entities can teleport.  House shields don't fill your house, they just surround it, and it's a rare critter that can get through a good psi house shield, let alone a radionic one.
I do have a device that will chase off nearly anything, I suppose if one did teleport in, you could just chase it off with that.

I think it'd take considerable bravery for a critter to teleport into the middle of an area surrounded by shields so disruptive they might destroy it....without knowing what's in there.


--Winged Wolf
"I will stare at the sun until its light doesn't blind me, and I will walk into the fire, 'til its heat doesn't burn me, and I will feed the fire...."

I would not be at all concerned about NASA.  I WOULD be concerned about the NSA.


--Winged Wolf
"I will stare at the sun until its light doesn't blind me, and I will walk into the fire, 'til its heat doesn't burn me, and I will feed the fire...."

Remember, all of this is theory, and not everyone agrees on it.  Whether it's Robert Bruce's school of thought, Psi Palatium's, the Psion Guild's, or Psi Pog's, or whatever--each has a different approach, and all of those approaches appear to be valid at the present time--meaning, people are using them and finding success in doing so.


If you don't find that the energy raising is making you uncomfortable--from your description, quite the opposite--why believe someone who says it's harmful?  If you overload your system to the point where you are too drunk to concentrate and you lose coordination, THAT is harmful.  If you feel a little tipsy, it's not.  If you don't stress your system, your system will not stretch to accomodate higher production/energy levels.
Just my opinion, coming from a different school of thought from the one generally espoused here.


--Winged Wolf
"I will stare at the sun until its light doesn't blind me, and I will walk into the fire, 'til its heat doesn't burn me, and I will feed the fire...."

The bit about ordered and disordered energy is hooey....entities, regardless of their intentions toward people, are ordered, because if they weren't, they wouldn't be entities--they'd be unpatterned energy.
You need a pattern for consciousness and will.

I was working on a device that could shield a house, too....the key is to create something that entities can't get through, which means it has to be disruptive to their pattern--but you need a clear space in the middle, so you don't disrupt yourself.
The main use for such a thing is that even people who are not psi-active in any way could use it effectively, and it requires no personal effort to keep it up.


--Winged Wolf
"I will stare at the sun until its light doesn't blind me, and I will walk into the fire, 'til its heat doesn't burn me, and I will feed the fire...."

Yes, but again, all it takes is a few months of work for a cat to learn how to use its claws--it can then dig out the mice no matter where they may be hiding.  It can certainly prevent further mouse infestation, if it should need to get help with a mouse removal.


--Winged Wolf
"I will stare at the sun until its light doesn't blind me, and I will walk into the fire, 'til its heat doesn't burn me, and I will feed the fire...."

I think a lot of people get caught up in....thinking too much.  The question isn't what is energy, and how significant is it...the real question is, what do you want to do with it?
Because the answer to THAT question is going to be the necessary thing you need to decide how to approach and deal with energy.  If you're growing plants, sunlight is the energy for you.  If you're hoping to play tapes on your radio, then you want electricity.
If it's psi abilities use you want to do, then use psi energy--it's an energy which is just as concrete as electricity, it merely hasn't been mechanically detected yet.
Want to increase your energy levels?  What kind?  Psi and life energy aren't the same.  No more so than sunlight and electricity.
Different approaches for different types.
Identify your goal, then study what needs to be done to reach it.  Don't be sidetracked by unrelated things.

Don't be sidetracked by philosophy, either.  A person who says that energy can't move isn't observing the world, they're philosophizing about it.  You can see/sense that it moves.  Trust your senses before you trust anyone else's mental convolutions.  They'll say all energy is the same--you know you can't plug yourself into a wall socket without harm.  Philosophy, and observation.  Believing in one will give you mental snugglies.  Believing in the other will keep you alive and get you to your goal the fastest.

Never believe something, particularly something about psychic abilities or psychic energy, just because someone--or even a whole lot of people--said it's true.  Test it all for yourself.  If you can't tell, then DON'T DECIDE--wait until you CAN tell for yourself.  You can learn from what people have to teach, but don't accept it merely because they said they're the grand high poobah of the universe with 50 years more experience than you--they could STILL be wrong, and they might even be nuts.
Maybe we all are.  
Energy working is a skill, like carpentry or pottery-making.  You can MAKE it spiritual, but it is not INHERENTLY so.  Recognize when the base skill is being lost beneath the religious or spiritual trappings, and retrieve it, or the pot you throw isn't going to turn out very well.


--Winged Wolf
"I will stare at the sun until its light doesn't blind me, and I will walk into the fire, 'til its heat doesn't burn me, and I will feed the fire...."

So, what?  Everyone should hide?
They've got psychics working for them already, they can find the most talented people more easily using them than they could just by asking people on a board.  How would they know who was for real and who was a psycho, or a braggart? If all the rumors are true, there's nowhere to hide, so your best defense is to be nice and loud so that your disappearance would be harder to account for.


--Winged Wolf
"I will stare at the sun until its light doesn't blind me, and I will walk into the fire, 'til its heat doesn't burn me, and I will feed the fire...."

I think it all depends on what you're trying to do.  In regards to psi, sex raises your energy levels, because of all that nervous system activity--it certainly isn't conducive to concentration on anything else, though.  You could take advantage of the boost, as the energy will take a while to dissipate afterward.
For life-energy working, it's an entirely different ball of wax.

I don't think I can believe that males will have negative health effects from sex.  If they don't engage in sex, they're going to have nocturnal emissions anyhow--that's what nature intended.  The endorphins and the physical contact should be more than enough to make up for the minor physical/energetic losses.  We know that touching and pleasure improve health.


--Winged Wolf
"I will stare at the sun until its light doesn't blind me, and I will walk into the fire, 'til its heat doesn't burn me, and I will feed the fire...."

Put up a hefty house shield, and put a personal shield around your child as well.  That will keep any entites from causing problems.
I'd recommend that for any parent whose child is sensitive...childhood traumas can cause blocking of psi abilities.

--Winged Wolf
"I will stare at the sun until its light doesn't blind me, and I will walk into the fire, 'til its heat doesn't burn me, and I will feed the fire...."