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Ohhh..ok, how about a contest? hehehe...ummmmm.. need to think of a good reward.  We'll start off slow first.. like, whomever smokes the least tomorrow gets...well, that is where I'm stuck..

And ideas?

Nay

i have a GREAT idea! How about for every cigerette you smoke you donate 5 big ones to the "Put Michael_e through Med School Fund" I have a bank account number all ready and everything

Hi Michael,


Why did this person die? Could the state of his body be traced back solely to smoking?

The person died from heart failure which often happens as a result of emphysema which she was suffering from as well. The emphysema can definitely be traced back to smoking, although some people who get it are antitrypsin deficient which isnt related to smoking.

Do you know anything about the interaction effect between smoking and radon exposure?

It hasnt been discussed yet. but i looked up some articles. i pmed you one. one that i had looked at said that smokers and recent non-smokers were at higher risk for developing lung cancer at usual amounts of radon in their homes. There were a bunch of other articles on lung cancer being reported in mine workers who were exposed to higher amounts of radon as well so if they are right i hope you arnt exposed to it  too much.

Also, a piece of information something hard to come unless looking in the professional literature is the actual chance of developing lung cancer in a life-long smoker. Usually, health agencies present the statistics in the most scary way - i.e. tenfold risk for smokers, etc making it sound it's basically guarenteed to get it.

sorry i dont know the actual chance of developing lung cancer for a life-long smoker, but ive seen a whole slew of numbers thrown around. eh ill just pm you a bunch of stuff...

Its one thing to take a verbal warning from nutritionists about how unhealthy eating too much fat, smoking, coffee, and lack of excersize are to the heart but last thursday i got to see the results up close and it left much more of an impact.

we had two bodies to disect and look at: one who was a heavy smoker and one who wasnt. when the doctor cut across an artery at the heart from the smoker it was like cutting into bone, we could hear the scalpel rubbing against the calcified plaque, kind of like nails across a chalkboard.

Upon looking at the bodies lungs, the smoker's were black and had what felt like marbels in the lower areas whereas the non-smoker's were largely pinkish with some blackish patches caused by pollution and no marbels. The marbels in the smokers lungs turned out to be cancerous which the person apparently wasnt aware of.

After seeing the differences i cant believe cigerettes are still allowed to be sold.

Hi there,


In taoist yoga is said to contract the anus to close the switch which maintains closed the energy circuit in that part.

Thanks in advance.

In the taoist yoga that i know the contraction is slight and gentle. The anus naturally goes about the slight contraction when your about to put some effort into things, it helps focus a little. Think natural when doing this kinda stuff.

if you find yourself floating a little above or in front of yourself while meditating all you have to do is feel as if your eyes are opening.

Michael

Good thinking.  Although it's not so much what we are told, but what we believe.

So, if I say to everyone that reads this post, they WILL have an OBE in the next three days, no matter what they read/do, how many will believe me?

And of all those who truly believe me, post your experiences here!

Sarah

Hi selski,

Probably not too many people will believe.  Although if they see you and your words as if they were true beyond a doubt i bet it would work.
maybe half of the battle of consciously getting out is simply allowing or giving yourself permission to do so by having faith. People talking about faith healing how bout some faith astral projecting! hehe

I truly believe the idea, ill be the first to post my experience from last night:

I woke up to what felt like a joy buzzer inside my spine, on a point along the micro orbit opposite the navel center. i focused on the buzzing and it intensified on its own until the buzzing spread to my whole body and i shot out like a bullet. I felt like telling myself to stop because moving at the speed was disorientating but let it go to see where i would end up, upon the thought of letting myself go to wherever i will go i slowed down to a halt. I was completely surrounded by a bright light electric blue color, nothing was around just color and empty space. I looked at myself and i was the same color as my surroundings except more fluid looking and irredescent kind of crystalline. It was very peaceful and quiet. i felt a tug and wass pulled back toward my body at the same speed i was shot out from it. I could see my building coming closer below me and i thought i wasnt looking forward to smashing through it but it was nothing and i slowed down right before entering and awoke without a jar. I feel especially refreshed today, and woke up without any grogginess whatsoever, it felt as if i had been awake for a hour already.

A lot of time i hear advice given to newbies that astral projection takes patience and is not easy and it can take up to a year or three months or 90 days to get a decent experience but how many people actually do achieve that goal in that amount of time? What if thinking that it is something that is not natural or easy or will most likely occur in a set amount of days is what is limiting people from having oobe now, tonight? Maybe its the thought of depending on a method that is keeping people from projecting as natuarlly as they want. We dont need a method to breath or dream so why need a method to project?

Is it a coincidence that some people i know who have picked it up right away were also initially taught that projection is simple, easy, natural and possible tonight and every night there after if that is what they sincerely thought to be true, hmmm... what do yall think?

The Dali Llama was asked a very imporatant question once. "What would it mean to the Buddhist ideology if it was found out that reincarntion was not True?"

He responded that "buddhism would have to change".

many buddhists and other spiritual people see ego boosting as something that should be avoided. One way to do that is by dethroning yourself and your ideas of what you believe as true. Which is what i belive the dalilama was getting at.

Look at it as a way to counter our innate tendencies toward self defense and aggression that have been ingrained in us since we became predators around the paleolithic era. Many people very similarly react in an aggressive way towards their ideology. If you can make a repeated deliberate effort to change this aggression it could be possible to evolve consciousness by thwarting some ego.

sounds like what RB calls awareness hands to me. they are good for NEW and for getting a feel for rope too.

do you have osteopathic doctors in the UK?

They go to the same medical schools, prescribe medicine and perform surgery in the same way M.D.s can but see treatment differently. They are also trained in herbal medicine and other alternative forms of healthcare that regular M.D.s dont get. Its a growing field in the US but still not quite as accepted as your typical medical school doctor.

For more info:

http://www.osteopathic.org/index.cfm?PageID=ost_main

I have this spirit who can read my mind, and I just need to block the connection off. He is just there all the time, commenting on everything, and there are some things that I wish to not share. I just am tired of talking to him. Also I want to know how to protect yourself, sometimes he messes with my thoughts and not sure if it was me or him, he mimics my own voice, or acts it out to make it seem like I'm thinking it. I want to learn more on how he can move my body parts, make me feel sensations and use my senses, on sexual energy, how all of this is being done. Any info is appreciated.

A firm denial can work.

LOL yes what a way to end a fascinating obe!

Potatis

Thanks potatis and selski,

sometimes i drool in my sleep but the last time i worked up a sweat in my sleep was when i had been fasting, probably some kind of detox going on.

When i hug people i feel energy raise up to my heart. While out of body i felt like hugging my surroundings and this is what happened:

I had woke up to turning sensations and had use of my rtz arms and sight. i imagined a rope coming down from the ceiling above and two came down for some reason. Reached up with my rtz arms and pulled myself out. i slid through my room's window and stood outside my home by some trees. I looked around at my surroundings and felt energy raise up to my heart in the same way and feeling that it does when hugging someone. All of a sudden i felt like hugging someone but there was no one around to hug, so i reached out my arms and pulled them towards myself in an attempt to hug empty space. Upon doing that my surroundings began being pulled towards me, sort of being stretch out like rubber.

I went more with the hugging feeling and the ground, the buildings, the trees, the sky and stars all started being pulled and abosrbed toward and into me. When the trees and ground and everything else is absorbed it becomes a part of the raising energy to my heart. Feelings of closeness and acceptance fill my heart as it begins to pulsate expanding and contracting. with every expansion my surroundings are pulled more quickly towards me and my heart feels like it grows in size. The feelings of closeness become very profound and completely take over, my heart expands one last time and the raising energy releases into my whole body. The only thing i can see now is light, the feelings of closeness becomes too intense, i feel like i am going to pass out, i do, and wake up covered in sweat, snot and drool, what a nice way to end an oobe.

I have a similar problem, any way of getting out when you're lying on your stomach though?

So far the only times I've been in the right state has been when I've been falling asleep on my stomach.  This morning I got my arms free and tried to push myself up but there was nothing for my arms to push on, it just felt like they were pushing through jello.  Then I tried to imagine myself rising up backwards and couldn't quite hold it for long enough.

When you get loose while on your stomach, feel your projected double turning over on to its back so you are facing up and then pull yourself out.

heres some recent recalls/market withdrawls:

http://www.fda.gov/opacom/7alerts.html

you can do rope from your side too. imagine the rope coming towards you from whatever wall you are facing.

something ive done that has helped with sensation in the navel is to feel as if your intestines are spiraling. For some reason feeling as if organs are moving helps with pretty much any energy sensation i am trying to enhance ie. if there is congestion in the head i feel/imagine as if my brain is melting down out of my head through my face neck and torso, to gather in the navel feel intestines turning, for rooting feel your bone structure and feel it sinking into the ground starting with the feet.

Hi CptPicard,

I can relate to what you are going through. I noticed a change in my personality when i started meditating. I struggled with this problem a bit because i didnt like the changes but i also felt like energy work and meditation in the long run would be useful and was very intrigued by it.

For me the problem involved the way i was approaching the whole topic. For me, i was taking it way too serious. My life would revolve around the idea of the importance of doing energy work to become an enlightened or more spiritual person. Ive learned that energy work or esoteric meditation popular today wont make you anymore spiritual than the anyone else. Right now i see meditation/energy work more as a hobby. Expecting that it will make you a more spiritual person is the wrong way to go in my opinion.

For the most part i encounter neg activity right upon going to sleep any "attacks" are done when i have astral sight and use of my rtz arms and i am either floating slightly above my body or kind of half way in half way out.

Something that has worked for me has been to take a great mental reach into the most profound feelings of love i can think of and feel and place my rtz arms on the neg and direct the strong feeling through my arms towards the neg. When i do this the neg dissolves away in my hands. My rtz arms naturally become very bright gold with streaks of pink and lose thier arm form to become waterfall rods of bright light. The more i can detach from what the neg is doing to me by concentrating on how high i can generate feelings of love the better it works. In other words, if you try this and your rtz arms get thrown or pushed away by the "neg" it could mean that your not focused enough on extending love through the arms. If the "neg" behavior is distracting you too much in that moment, saying something like " my arms are god's arms" or what ever you can fathom to to consolidate your will can work.

RBs core images have worked fairly good for me as well.

When doing the image removals i have found that it works much better if i forget about imagery or trying to visualize and really feel around in time emotionally/psychologically. The imagery comes natural from feeling around. The attachments i feel for are usually moments in which i have done something that has felt out of character for me. Once i have targeted one of those moments in time i push the feeling/imagery away and in front of me with awareness hands so i can hold the image/feeling like a postcard, peel one of the ends up and turn it over. I burn away everything underneath the image. There is a psychological involvement that is happening during all of this, sometimes my breathing will pick up from the excitement of confrontation, other times my eyes will squeeze out tears if the attachment is connected to them during cauterization. The impact after clearing an attachment is a long lasting feeling, almost like a rewiring.

Atheist:
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=315976

catholic church teaching exorcisms due to new intrest in occult:



http://www.reuters.com/printerFriendlyPopup.jhtml?type=topNews&storyID=7043360

I have found rope to be excellant and very effective once astral sight has kicked in and i have awereness and mobility in my rtz arms, but very ineffective if im not in that deep a level trance. In my experience you already should have some working awareness of your rtz body to get rope to work.

I have a similar problem.

I have never astrally projected, but every time I try, the only thing that happens is my forearms and hands get light or heavy and I wait and wait trying, but nothing happens!!        

maybe the waiting is too passive an approach. Lay on your back and allow yourself to fall alseep. Try not to wait untill you fall asleep, actively seek it out because that is when the transfers in counsciousnes take place. Allow yourself to become very very lazy, emulate the way you feel when sleepy, but still be aware of what is going on mentally while falling asleep. If you feel your arms getting heavy, good, thats feedback, your getting somewhere, dont let it distract you though and let yourself fall deeper. See the arms getting heavy and pretty much anything else like more localized heavines, noises, sensations as signs along the way, gradually leading you deeper. When you see a sign in the street you usually dont stand there and look at it for half an hour, you take note and keep going down the road. Its not quite that simple when projecting but the same idea applies, crawl, walk, run, fly at what ever pace you can down the path of dynamic rest, its not quite static or rushed but still moving and hardly using wait. "You wait, you die"-anonymous

Keep clear of incense and candle burning during your meditations!

Candles will fill the room full of hydrocarbons, and incense will give you a case of smoke inhalation.  I also suspect that scented candles are giving off particulates that are ultimately not much better than irritants.

Hehe, you sound like my mom!

Youll get smoke inhalation from incense maybe if you stick your face right over 50 lit twigs and start deep breathing. One twig of incense can do the trick. Just crack open a window or two if they arnt already. jeez your killin an ant with a bazooka!

ETs: http://www.paradigmclock.com/StudioB(HighBandwidth).mpg

stargate archive: http://www.rviewer.com/SGArchive.html

Hi majortom!,


I could see that happening, although it never happened to me. Of course, a lot of 'manifestations' (even in fully lucid OBEs) occur automatically in the interplay between the subconscious and the perceived environment. One may not be consciously aware of the subconscious thought processes giving rise to such experiences, but I do think they operate there to a large extent.

No doubt, yet the less dream-like state of awareness is incorporated the less subconscious influence of things like "negs"poping up out of nowhere is seen and the more my mind seems to operate closely on a schema based on physical reality, ie. gravity instinct is very strong.

So I'm sure there are exceptions to the rule, and yours is duly noted. However, I think overall (as you may agree), that many new to AP overestimate the realism of negative encounters during an OBE,  and lack the insight as well as attention into the interplay between themselves aqnd their environment. As said, this interplay runs a whole lot deeper than just the thoughts one is aware of in the moment.

I agree totally. That realism of negativity isnt all a bad thing though( i know you havnt said it was), after facing the negativity the positive effects coming from that can often carry over into everyday life partly because of the degree of realism behind the encounter. in contrast to overestimating the realism of negative encounters, if one were to lack being stimulated by them any future encounter could seem insignificant.