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"Alchimiste, what do you think that they think about you. It's at their request that I don't mention certain things right now"

I couldn't care less what they think about me, I've offered to help and if they want to go to the doctors and lie, omit or forget to tell the doctor thier symptoms then how can they get treatment......Here's a prescription for asprin and some anti depressants and a sick note so you get a week off work....oh by the way do you have insurance as I charge loads of money for my bovine excrement advice.

Neg rem 5,

I sincerely hope that the faith your friends put in you is well founded.

As to me?......yes I'm outspoken, direct and quite often agressive, I say what I think and get to the point which to say the least you do not. Yes I've insulted you on this site and another member kakkarot whose ego was probably bigger than even yours, but when the excrement hits the fan I know what to do, or if I don't, I know exactly the questions to ask to define the problem and who to ask. remember this is about results.. we don't try...we do or we do not.

as to your reply you do not realise that the way, place, time, state of the subject and many many other factors that you so conveniently omit from all your posts are the determining factors in removing these entities.

I have a question for you...........how much practical work in the field at removing neg entities,manifestations and possessions have you actually got?...is this situation beyond your experience?

I must emphasise that I understand your concern and willingness to help your friends yourself but if you want to get results then please please swallow your pride and give us all here the info we need in order to shed any kind of light on this problem......and that includes assholes like me.

You seem to want to solve this problem by consulting a public chat forum but without divulging any relevant information.

I'm up for giving you any info I can and I'm sure others with experience here feel the same way but none of us can do the maths without the numbers.

Although I personally wouldn't recommend using the middle pillar ritual due to the fact it only serves to strengthen your Guardian de Seuil (gate keeper) I refer you to http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2560 a topic posted by Mattias Jonsson that describe the phenomena of this entity that carries ones present incarnation and its desire to attack when it feels threatened.

Apart from this advice I would consciously work on your third eye chakra to unblock it before doing the MPR as this is whats causing the throbbing. You have only a partially open third eye and it can't cope with the energy being forced through it. be carefull or you could do serious damage.

take care

["THE ONLY AND TRUE GOAL OF MAGIC IS THE TRANSFORMATION OF THE OPERATOR, TO FIND HIS/HER DIVINE ESSENCE, TO MERGE INTO THE ALL POWERFULL LIGHT, TO AID HIM/HER SUCCEED AND REALISE ON ALL THE PLANES OF HIS/HER EARTHLY EXISTENCE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE GRAND LAWS OF THE UNIVERSE." R. Gascon 1993]

There must be at least as many forms of magic as there are operators. From Black magic  (the real black magic, that has nothing to do with the rubbish that is out of the twisted minds of the inquisition, or the throat cutting of chickens on a Saturday night) White magic, Red magic and Green magic and all those practices that filter between these four "mother" magics. All unfortunately of little interest as having been completely bastardized and corrupted they are useful only to the avid readers of todays tabloid off the shelf Grimoires and spell books!

"THE ONLY AND TRUE GOAL OF MAGIC IS THE TRANSFORMATION OF THE OPERATOR, TO FIND HIS/HER DIVINE ESSENCE, TO MERGE INTO THE ALL POWERFULL LIGHT, TO AID HIM/HER SUCCEED AND REALISE ON ALL THE PLANES OF HIS/HER EARTHLY EXISTENCE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE GRAND LAWS OF THE UNIVERSE."
R. Gascon 1993


Magic is a tool for evolution.

"To answer the question on what caused it initially is something I'm going to hold off on saying right now. I know exactly what caused it, but I want to hear more about people's views on the Holy Spirit before I explain.

Which came first?.....The chicken or the Neg?

To me this is the crucial part of your friends problem. You say you know exactly what caused it? if you do then this will help formulate the solution, but to hold off on this info until you get satisfactory answers to the Holy Spirit question that fits to your belief system, is to say the least disrespectful to your friends.

To know the cause can indicate the type of entities involved.....also how can you be sure it is actually a possession?...What are the symptoms? and how do you know there are several entities involved?

You seem to know a lot more about your friends situation than you are letting on.....be frank with us and we'll be frank with you. Come on Neg Rem 5 are we going to fish or cut bait all day whilst your friends continue to suffer.

Everything is magic!!!

"I was not taught anything that I've posted it has come by way of knowing within myself and personal experience I've compared it others beliefs for testing and found it rings true for me. I do not ask anyone else to believe me, and in turn I am not subjected to believing others."

To tell you the truth Its the same for me..............I have not followed any particular magical school of thought but have worked independantly with certain magiciens.
I realise it might upset neg rem but Im not at all religous but yes I know there is a god and he/she/??? exists within me, as my name implies I am an Alchimiste (spiritual more than physical)
I'll post more on the new magic forum if you are at all interested as I beleive in independance and freedom when it comes to magic and evolution.

The holy spirit is just an energy, it's religous dogma that puts a face or image to it, it's the same for all religions.

I have to go as the kids are needing fed.............more later

nice attitude and post btw Krome.........I think I may just offer to write your biography...smurk smurk!!!!!!

thanks,
Once I get my breath back from my recent editorial fistycuffs with neg rem 5 I'll get posting.

in reply to your question on whether someone filled with the holy spirit can be possessed or not..............I would say no it would not be possible, depending upon the level of the holy spirits presence.(that is how much of the body is in resonance with the holy spirit)
To be invested by the holy spirit is a rebirth of the being on a cellular level, the old cells are transformed by the high vibratory quality of the Holy spirit that causes the body cells to resonate in harmony with itself and thus raise the vibratory frequence of the body.
At such a high frequency, any foreign entity is unable to resonate in harmony and as such cannot occupy the same space;

Where this hypothesis fails is when the belief system of the subject persuades the subject that they are invested with the holy spirit when they are in fact not; they have autosuggested the idea perhaps through religious zeal or misinterpratation of felt energy. As you can imagine this is a very grey and somewhat delicate area of investigation as to question the subjects faith can worsen an already serious situation!!!!

Also i agree that most neg infestation is there because they were invited in, not consciously but subconsciously of course! and if ones vibratory level is low then negs can resonate more readily and thus invest their host.
The Guardian de Seuil or as some describe it as the shadow ego can also have something to say about this matter. I refer you to http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2560 a topic posted by Mattias Jonsson that describe the phenomena of this entity that carries ones present incarnation and its desire to attack when it feels threatened.

if the subject was involved in an actual and active spiritual progression then it is not unusual that upon reaching a certain level they attracted the attention of certain sects or religious/occult organisations who would send one or more entities to "take possession" of their host inorder to recuperate the soul in order to fuel their egregore.

I'll leave it up to you if you want to further this discussion or not, that is of course if any of us fit into YOUR belief system. I have replyed out of concern for your friends and not to prove myself wrong or right in regards to your point of view. So as they say...........the ball's in your court now.

ps. If my answer does not satisfy your criteria then I'll happily bow out of this situation and leave you to get on with it as I'm sure you will need all your efforts for the job at hand.

Ditto to that Krome!

Neg rem 5, now we have gotton over the foreplay I realise we wont be inviting each other over for cocktails but your friend is in trouble.

Are this friends symptoms only when they project or have they passed over to the physical?
Can you say if it is an actual possession?
If it's a possession have you found out what type of entity it is? Can you see if the entity is associated with any of the four elements?
Is there more than one of them?
Is it possible to comunicate with the entity?
What have you already tried?
can you tell us where the entity is residing within your friend (is it any of the chakras?..if so which one and has it moved upwards yet?
How does the entity manifest itself?
any small bit of info may help find it's weak spot.
can you dowse to see if there is any karmic link or is it an indescriminate attack? even if it's karmic you can still get rid of it but the technique will differ and you will need to communicate with it.
Is your friend male or female?
What religion?
when did it start?
Could the entity have come from an object they bought or were given or came back from holiday with?

I realise you are a proud man who wishes to help your friend but if you can give details you will find we all are prepared to proffer the relevent info you will need, then afterwards you can continue to gather techniques for future reference. its your friend that needs help right now....so swallow your pride, lets put our differences aside for a while at least and help you get your job done.

I can't say fairer than that!

Heres to an uneasy peace

Ok I'm a big mouth david who loves to shoot down goliaths so why is it that other forum members are asking the same Q's as I'm doing field marshal six star crusade neg rem 5?
Haven't you realised that you can't tell people they want to get rid of the NEGativity in their lives......it's a choice.

stop acting like you are still a soldier; you are still far too narrow minded and inexperienced, try reading a bit more and living a bit more before you tell us all how we should live and react to negs.

yes bow down you minions, I am the master, the dark lord,the dictator, that is if you beleive everything on this site that is said. watch out ye of few posts I'll have you off this site before you can say Robert Bruce.

ps. don't get paranoid!

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"That light is only the home for deceased humans that have passed away and are moving into the new home and world that God has created in the spiritual realm for his human entity offspring."

"First off the light method can only work with deceased human spirits, and none other"

I have read this thread with interest and have picked these two quotes from neg rem 5 posts.

Neg Rem 5

You have taken the bible far too seriously!!! You probably think God created man in his own image!!! Get off your biggoted high horse; If you think humans are the only species that god cares about in this universe or any other for that matter you are narrow minded beyond belief.

You are the shoot first ask questions later kind of idiot that will end up causing more damage than good in your one man crusade, lets play at G W Bush kind of gung ho stupidity.

You obviously have started upon this subject with the intention of fitting the facts to your theory, and I hope no one will have the unfortunate opportunity of you practicing your neg removal butchery upon them.

Do you even realise that ripping out a neg can actually kill the person you are trying to help.....Im sorry but its a lot more complicated than just declaring war on negs and marching off to war.

I must agree with Fenris on this one......A magical and hermetic sciences forum would cetainly be useful.

Neg rem 5

I understand you're keen and want to rid the world of negs and you've done research on various methods etc. but please enlighten us on your own experiences with these negative entities that you are so against, have you, or anyone close to you been affected by one or several of them, now or in the past?

You seem so head strong about getting together all the techniques and ways of getting rid of these entities that to me you don't come across as completely honest to the readers on this forum!!! Whats your angle neg rem5? do you understand from first hand experience what any entity actually is? have you had any experience at all in this field?......don't get me wrong I can perfectly understand if you just want to get things going on the forum and accumulate lots of techniques under the same thread but isn't that what the self defense forum is all about? it's an entity in its own right that moves at the pace of those who post, it doesn't need a gung ho "lets solve all the neg problems in one thread" kind of attitude.

A site/entity such as this forum evolves, and it's those who contribute that dictate the pace of this evolution, people with problems need time and personal nuturing to solve their particular problems, that's why they visit and post on these pages, to get personal attention. Yes they can all read Roberts book or your superthread that explains all, but where is the personal touch that the neg afflicted or possessed really need?........what's your answer negrem5 to these questions?

You need to realise that no one method works all the time on any particular neg, they evolve also (slower, but they do evolve)
Certain entities aren't in the least effected by christian excorcism, many do not fear jesus or mary or any christian imagery, holy water or virtually anything you care to throw at them, you need a vast and wide knowledge, plus experience to find what works for each particular entity or neg. Please also remember that it is quite commen for some possesions, curses or neg problems to be self inflicted and can more often than not have karmic implications....ie a lesson needs to be learned and to remove the lesson only delays the learning process. You need to be very carefull when considering dealing with any entity that is attached to an individual other than yourself as the karmic implications touch you also!!!....Be warned!

Shed some light on this for us all Neg Rem 5....what's your story?

Noleaf Clover,

I find your racial comments misplaced and not in line with the netiquette required on this site.

Lets keep our differences and insults to the matter at hand. You may attack me as an individual but please don't attack me on the grounds of my race.

Alchimiste
(Student of evolution)

ps. I'm English and just live in France

Let me guess.................you're doing research for a book?

Try doing a bit of research yourself as opposed to getting us to do it for you.

Gilderoy Lockhart

"Believe me I'll know when I am getting in over my head and so will you. In fact the whole world will know. I have summoned demons before, I have made an invisibility potion with the help of Baal for christ-sake! So do not presume that I am in over my head. "

Warlockyoshi,
Please don't take my post as a personal attack, it's just that my posts tend to pour salt onto open sores and wind people up a little. For want of a better phrase I'm a bit of a devils advocate. Please forgive me, I did not, nor do not presume anything,

If you want to invoke someone, then invoke yourself, the real you! find the keys that are inside. I actually invoked myself once and the results were astounding.

As for making a blood pact with Baal and his Queen Tanit then that's your choice and your Karma. As you say you'll know when you are in over your head, but remember when you realise, it's usually too late

Happy invokation

Alchimiste
(student of evolution)

To all in general,

Ok I'll try and be brief and I'll take for granted a certain level of consciousness and experience in all of you as I'm going to try and explain that all magic or scorcery whether white, black, green red or whatever colour that effects anyone or anything other than the proper interior evolution of the operator is infact totally futile and infact a hinderance to any spiritually evolutive path. Forgive me as I'm going to generalise a lot for the sake of easy understanding.

At the beginning a force was set in motion (the creation or big bang) and when this force was set in motion an equal and opposite force was automatically created (lucifer) thus duality occured and exists in all things, everthing has its opposite ( yin yang, black white, good bad, male female,up down, left right), one can't exist without the other. The universe as we know it is DUALITY in a state of balance or unbalance.We are infact ourselves duality.
The natural laws of the universe dictate that this duality will always try to find its balance, its harmony, its status quo where one perfectly balances the other and a certain harmony is acheived.

Whatever we do on whatever level (material, astral, mental, spiritual etc etc) effects the balance of this duality one way or another and the natural laws of the universe try to regain the status quo each time it goes off balance. This to use the eastern terminolgy is Karma, its just the universe re-establishing the natural balance. Karma is not personal it's universal.

Real Evolution on any spiritual path in essence centres around the negation of duality, reconnecting to the the part of us that existed at the time before creation, before duality  ( the birth of the alchimistes stone) and this CAN ONLY take place within oneself and not exterior to oneself.

To exteriorise Magic on any level and of any colour infact is just the manipulation of duality and therefore upsets the balance and creates karma on various levels and thus slows down evolution and the process of creating the stone and acheiving the cosmique marriage.

The secret is to stop ALL magic that effects the duality. Integrate all magic and power and transform it in the Solar plexus (the alchimistes crucible of the body) to find and balance all the opposing forces within the body to create the foundation onwhich to build oneself and thus create the stone (enlightenment, illumination etc etc).

So you see that to invoke demons or do spells  is infact distancing you from the real goal, as they create karma and are futile excercises. One must first find then marry all the opposing forces within oneself to create the utmost INTERIOR harmony and only then can one take the next step which is the negation of ones interior duality.

Evolutory magic comes from inside and is personal to every individual, it comes not from books or magic groups or the internet or any master one cares to mention, it comes from INSIDE!

Although I have trodden the road of magic for many miles I have integrated all I have learned, all my so called powers and transformed them within myself to build the real me. Its through hard experience I have realised that the manipulation of duality is just an illusion holding me back.

I realise everyone has the right to do as they please but I thought my own story might help some of you power hungry budding magiciens understand that in the end its a futile excercise to manipulate duality and by me telling you this I may save a few of you wearing out your shoes on the same road before you realise for yourselves that you've been wasting your time.

Of course you are perfectly entitled to ignore what I've said and invoke what you like and do your little magic recipies if thats what turns you on, after all it's a learning curve.

But let me warn you all that it's just too easy to  get yourself well over your heads and once in the deep end it can take YEARS to get out if you don't sink out of sight that is!


Have fun

Alchimiste
(student of evolution)

So how did it go?

Did you beat it?

Which demon did you summon?

Or haven't you done it yet?.......Too busy training on "street fighter" to get the moves down with your gaming buddies!

Come on! tell us what happened, all us junior members with less than a thousand posts are waiting for the master to speak of his great battle with the forces of darkness!

An impatient Alchimiste
(student of the mighty kakkarot)

Hail to the new order!!!!!

A note to all members of the Astral Pulse

Please realise that all "junior" members with few posts must take heed of what those "Senior members" with many posts say, as obviously the more posts you have the more evolved, experienced and powerfull you are.
We junior members should listen to the wise senior members especially the most powerful god chosen kakkarot whose words of wisdom are to be digested and integrated into our personalities........!!!!!!!Ha Ha

It's time to get off your high horse Kakkarot, us junior, unevolved members lacking in spiritual advancment are sick and tired of your meglomaniac, hierarchial attitude, it's time you stopped preaching and started practicing.

I find it hard to believe that they allow computors with internet connections into high security psyciatric wards where you obviously must be and I think it's time they changed your medication as what they are giving you isn't stopping your dellusions.

I have to agree, you are just too good for this site, I wish you well wherever you go, saving us all from demons as you battle goods deadly foes in your more than vivid imagination.

Enjoy your trip

Alchimiste
(student of evolution)

Tut tut tut!!!

So your ego has got the better of you again oh most powerful kakkarot?
I remember you said in one of our earlier exchanges on this forum that you don't practice magic!........So tell me oh great kakkarot! how the hell are you going to summon a demon without it?....How are you going to protect yourself during the process?.....where are you going to summon it to, and where will you be when you summon it?......Also are you just going to call out for any bad butt demon that happens to be passing by or do you know the required calls and procedure for doing something so blatently stupid? Or did you read it in an amazon.com book on black magic for children?

for someone with as many posts as you and the amount of time you spend contributing to this and god knows which other sites I am amazed how inexperienced and stupid you still actually are!

I can't help but think that you should start doing something useful with your life instead of regurgitating second hand info from useless books, web sites and video games disguised as supposed advice for some of the real people in need that use this site.

If you're lucky nothing will happen. If you are unlucky then I'm afraid your ego aint gonna protect you, and you're gonna need to know a heap of big magic to come out of the experience unscathed.

With this in mind I wish you luck

Alchimiste
(student of evolution)

OK!.......TK,

It's about as usefull as an ashtray on a motorcycle......it looks good but has no actual purpose.

My tip to you is to try moving yourself instead of objects, try evolving above the search for powers of anykind, try finding yourself and raising your consciousness, watching TV shows can't be considered a useful excercise to get anywhere upon this road which is difficult enough without prue Halliwell adding her useless 2 cents and distracting you from your real goal.

be warned.....your wasting your time, and even if you succeed...big deal, it will serve you not if you wish to evolve. Evolution requires the negation of powers, so in my book you are barking up the wrong tree.

Sorry

Alchimiste
(a student of evolution)

Deedee,

Probably the ultimate reference on the subconscious and its relation to magical or spiritual evolution in all forms has to be "the psychology of the transference" by Carl Gustav JUNG.

It's complicated reading but it explains the processes involved when undergoing a personal alchemy.

happy reading.........!

Alchimiste
(a Student of evolution)

It's been a while since I visited but I just thought I'd drop in and see how things were going!!

Sulphur baths are excellent for purifying the energetic bodies and loosening negs. You can do them at home by taking a hot bath with added "Flower of Sulphur", not too much as it's really strong.You can get it from gardening shops or drug stores.......if they ask why you want it you can say its to stop the dogs tinkling on your property.

the bath will be even better if you add loads of un-purified sea salt (at least two kilos) and the juice of a few limes.

This type of bath is purification in the extreme.

If you want to go the whole way you can recite the following prayer of purification whilst in the bath at least forty times for max results.

"Purificatum Christum
St.Michel Archangelum-Archangelum
Adjuva meum
Adjuva teum
Immortalis conjurator
et Pectorum Veritum
Adjutorium"


happy bathing

Alchimiste
(a student of evolution)