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quote:Originally posted by crazy_colombiang

I see this yellow light moving in the blackness of my colsed eyes. Waht is that? Is it the energy im manipulating on my third eye?
cuz i imagined it open and sucking positive energy. so could that be it?

i think i know what you are talking about. the light moves around in such a way that makes it swirly or kind of like filled in fluid concentric rings? The way it moves changes depending on your mood, i noted that the more relaxed and gentely focused your awareness the more symetrical the movement becomes. I have no idea what it is but i have a few ideas. one is that it is some kind of image of the third eye, another is that it is energy that is naturally flowing through your system and that its always there and you take notice of it when you close your eyes. it could be that because i have noticed that when i catch it moving without manipulation it naturally flows up toward the third eye. it could be some kind of diagnostic since the colors and movement changes with your mood or thinking. it also makes a good focal point when wanting to have an oobe. although when that happens the light becomes speckles of light all across the darkness, kind of changes form all together which is interesting to observe. play with it, see what you can find out about it more.

forgot to mention that you can see the moving light with your eyes open too. its harder to see if the lights are on compared to the dark background of our eyelids, although i havnt tried seeing with my eyes open with the lights off yet. i would expect it would be just as bright as with my eyes closed, well see.

quote:Originally posted by Lighthouse

 I wonder how many men are here because it gives them some time to kill at work when they are on the computer all day anyway and need a break from the grind.

perhaps. i think the typical guy would take a break from the grind looking at women or sports on the web though[]. i think the majority of guys here are actually looking for answers or just to share things with like minded across the globe.

quote:I have been the president of a large holistic organization in the midwest as well as having attended and taught many seminars that relate to topics within this forum.  My experience is that women are generally much more interested in this type of thing.  In fact, last night, I gave a presentation that was publicized for both men and women and ZERO men showed up.

this is true. quite often i find myself being the only guy or one of the only guys at seminars. But i have also found that more guys show up if it is a guy teaching the seminar. i wonder what the man/woman ratio was for robert's seminar.

quote:Perhaps another explaination may be that women are more open about this because we have less to lose in the public eye.  So, public exploration of thoughtful topics are more acceptable for women to pursue.

thoughtful topics are quite broad, plus whats thoughtful for a man or woman or any individual in that case is relative to the thinker![] guy usually like the esoteric aspect of martial arts which involve lots of stuff discussed at these jiggy forums. i think woman are more into the esoteric healing angle which also involves stuff involved here. all in all i think the guy/girl ratio in seminars depends on the context in which the stuff discussed at these forums is being taught and who is teaching it.


--Kerri
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i like the idea of there being some kind of governing force that tallies all our good deeds and then rewards us with reciprocation. Its not always that simple though. bad things happen to good people and good things happen to bad people. This is where karma says "the bad things that happen to good people are a result of things done in a past life". the part i dont like about this is, how can i learn from a mistake i cant even remember or know that i have made? id rather think that the "bad" things that are happening are a result of a lack of imagination and understanding in my life now, a reflection of the choices i have made now.

quote:Originally posted by alpine9

 how much stimulating, balancing and clearing do you need in order to shift from one chakra to the next.

I think how strongly the sensations you get in the chakra could be a good way to determine when its time to move on to another one. the more you feel in one the more vitality there will be to pass on to the next. i usually build up a good spin or warmth sensation before moving on the next, sometimes if you build up the sensations enough it will move on its own or will spill into the next chakra or shoot or squirt to another area of your body that is tired. another good thing to do is condesing the sensations of warmth or light in the chakra into a little ball or pearl. after condensing it nice and tight it will burst out gentley through your whole system or up through the channels. kind of like an unraveling of the condensing pressure put on it.

quote:Can I just raise and store energy in my sub-navel and just let the energy curculate through my energy system, or use breathing techs?

yes you can. im not a big fan of breathing techs though, i found my breathing patterns change naturally with state of consciousness im in so i guess its a matter of preferance of the device you choose to get you into the state of consciousness. the device of choice i like to use is focusing on sensations and emotions/feelings.

quote:Originally posted by fallnangel77

If  But I think that all that you need is within you. Try looking within for your answers, as everything you need to know about yourself is there.

i agree. Usually a guide will be there for the sole purpose of inspiring its guidee to think for him/herself.

quote:Originally posted by GRRegis

I have been practicing obe for about 6 months now w/ limit success.  I have three so far and have probaly spent a total of 45 second oob conciously.  The best time for me seems to be when I just wake up especialy after a nap or in the middle of the night.  Last night, I fell a sleep after trying meditating for about thirty minutes and was a sleep for about 3-4 hours.  I woke up and the vibrations started to come on (which now happens occasionaly now unfortunately), but when they started to get really loud I all of a sudden heard this really sinister laugh.  It spooked me b/c it sound like it was all around me and it broke my concentration.  I got the vibes back a couple time but not as strong and I couldn't stop thinking about that laugh.  I was so close.  Has anyone else had something similar happen?

oohhhh a sinister laugh, i like the idea of ignoring it too. if thats not possible you can always laugh back "MUUUWWWAHAHHAAAA" ya  know, give it a little taste of its own medicine. Or a good pimp slap does the trick every time, remember its pinky finger up and flip around your rings[]!

The sinister laugh falls into what i call the "bugger" category its there to bug you just enough to distract. Kinda like spam mail, but like with spam you can block it with some filters and that mental filter would be dogged determination and ignoring it!

Great post James!

I noticed a pattern of fear towards negs becoming popular as well and tried to lighten things up a bit with the astral beatdowns thread in astral experiences category http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=9174&whichpage=1

It didnt quite have the effect i wanted it to in fact it might have inspired people to go out and look for trouble[] One of the things i found to be true is that the most effective and rewarding application towards oobe is done with a joyful/playful enthusiastic attitude, your post does a good job of confirming that for me with some info of the mechanisms behind it all.

quote:Originally posted by Opiate

Ive kept the topic header pretty broad so ill get more readers []

so whats up? Im sure some of you guys have this problem too? Hey i'd like to try the lotus or something but i dont think im flexible enough []

Hi opiate,

ive had back pains located in between my shoulder blades on the spin and sometimes in my sacral area. the way i got rid of it was by strengthening my back by sitting more erect. being relaxed, fixing posture and energy brushing in the area where there is pain can do the trick if its nothing too serious.

quote:Originally posted by volcomstone

I suppose so, but video's can lie, and to the super skeptic will most likely claim the video has been altered etc etc

yea super skeptical kinda denies the possibility of such a thing being a natural occurance and that kinda attitude, SUCKS![!] but some skepticism is good because youd be surprised at the length people would go to promote themselves or to get attention; deliberately lying about paranormal stuff. I guess it depends on the person who is claiming to have paranormal abilities motive's too. Magicians can do telekinesis with magnets, in fact some of the videos ive seen saying they are telekinesis ive emulated to the tee by putting a magnet under the table or whatever surface the object is being moved on . that doesnt mean that they arnt genuine, but it is an alternative explaination to those who are horribly skeptical or cant do it themselves.

quote:anyhow, i got a good Tk excercise it involves these "touchable bubbles"  which are essentially plastic bubbles that you can find at  (almost) any dollar store (here in ottawa anyway).  They last for up to 9 hours, and once they "solidify" in the air they won't pop when  they land on stuff

ill play with it[]. ive gotten reasonable results with a pinwheel, but it is soo exhuasting concentrating like that and usually take a while, maybe 30-40 minutes before i can get any movement that isnt due to environmental factors. one thing that i have found that helps is to give the pinwheel a little push, inertia says it should stop, or at least slow down but not keep moving at a steady rate( even if it is slow)!

quote: Originally posted by holy reality

that sounds hard to remember... can't i just say somethign cool and badass like "Is it just me, or is it getting HOT in here?" Then unleash a torrent of hell fire on the unsuspecting person? I think it all has to do with willpower rather than what you are actually saying.

I would say a big fat YES. whats more important is the intent behind your words rather than what you are actually saying. Now, someone from mysticweb where that neg banishing trick comes from would probably say no. In fact i know, most of the teachers there would say that you should say the phrases word for word with strength for it to work which is true but its the strength that makes it work not the words. I tested this out myself while in astral against a real neg not like one of the other more playful ones i posted about earlier. said the whole bellilin thing word for word without intent to get the neg to leave and of course he went nowhere, then i said something else, a one word statement with authority and intent to get this neg to leave and *poof* he dissapeared. what i found most interesting was that when i told mystic web about this they assured me that i was confused or incorrect or not in the astral and that i shouldnt use my own words to manifest strength i should use thiers[].

quote: It was a natural defense mechanism [:I]

absolutely! the funny thing is that astral violence is completely pointless from the stand point of causing some actual harm to whoever is wierding ya out. but psychologically beating someone down there who is trying to oppress you can have a positive effect on your confidence. I believe sooner or later the violence response to negs can be abandoned

quote:I love the idea about astral sparring... fighting with people in dreams is so much pointless fun.....

yep completely pointless fun playtime.[]

quote:We need to try to create a locale somehow... visualization seems to not work so maybe just whenever we're lucid or projecting just say something like "take me to an astral combat training zone" ? I'm sure one probably exists....

probably. the thing is we all have different ideas of what an astral training zone could be like. so if we were to create a locale i would think it would have to be standardized.

quote:Do you all think that's possible? That he really exists now? Or do I need to keep recreating him? I suppose it'd have the same effect either way though, but I'm not sure...

Im not too sure how that would work, but i would think you would have to create something like that in the astral, or maybe out of your own astral substance while awake. i really have no idea though ive never tried making something like that.

quote:Originally posted by nthjbam

I've been really practicing at trying to project for about 3 or 4 months now.  And I've gotten very close on a nnumber of occasions, I've projected after falling asleep and woken up in the astral briefly, but I always seem to pop back into my body very quickly.  What I am asking is, if there is anyone here who is adept at projecting who could possibly help me get out.  Literally coming to me while I'm trying to project and lending me a hand to pull me out.  I don't know if this is possible.  I've been halfway out many times, a little encouragement would work wonders.  I can surely set up some sort of a white light beacon high in the sky over my house.  Is anyone up to the challenge?  Thanks.

Be well,
J

hey nthjbam,

your guide can help you with sort of thing, instead of waitin around for someone to come around and pull you out your guide can help pull you out. Say something like, "guide, i would like very much for you to help me project by pulling me out. can you do this please."  he/she/it may or may not depending on how much good he/she/it may think it would do you. dont get dissapointed if it doesnt automattically happen in the same night you ask, the guide may be waiting for the conditions to be right to do such a thing. so, keep up efforts on your part and asking, the universe has ears!![]

quote:Originally posted by Coffee

How do you sing it?  Is it a straight time beat, a waltz, a mariachi, disco, standard or what?

You sing the first line like frank sinatra, the second is your best britney, third is instrumental; you humm it, fourth is a gangsta rap line, last is with a kazoo.

quote:Originally posted by Coffee

So the next time I fight a neg, do you recommend I throw pretend knives at it, try to melt it,  or unleash my wrath without fail with my elastic rubber band arm?

I think maybe some of us should get together and "spar" in the psychic realm to work on our astral sword fighting and chinese counter curses.  Seriously.

What do you think?

that sounds like fun, BUT i dont quite have the faculty to meet up with someone in a prearranged manner yet. Its a good thing too  otherwise i would have to open a can of astral wind on you guys[] Also after some observations, i think that the use of intent is more of a good weapon in the astral, and also meer presence i think can deter attacks. From what i was told by a guide in the astral there are "training grounds", or in other words, places where you can go to focus on a specific skill with some prearranged tests and obstacles. I was taken to a flying training ground this summer in which i was inside a very large cylinder with pods that were progessivly further away from each other some moving some not. There was a bunch of other travelers there leaping and flying from pod to pod having loads of fun. perhaps if you are in contact witha reliable guide you caould ask him/her/it to take you to one.

quote:Originally posted by alt0xFF

Green hopping guy in a turban? Sounds like Castaneda's Mescalito (as per his second encounter in the first book)

Been eating peyote recently by any chance? []

Mescalito, what the heck is a mescalito? sounds kinda like mescaline. I never was much of castaneda fan, but now ill have to go read that book, or maybe just the chapter, or paragraph depending on how good it is and how much he talks about the green guy in a turban. i wonder if he tried throwing anything at him, i hope not, poor mescalito might start feelin abused.[] In answer to your query, no peyote eatin here, just plenty of arroz con pollo and air ...and probably pollution from the cars.

quote:Originally posted by holy reality

this one time I was in the process of having sex with a good looking girl, and she turned evil and gross looking, and said she was satan, and i said "no you aren't" and she like threatened some sort of damnation upon me, and then i asked her what it's like being evil and she threatened me some more... so then I guess... I think I beat her down, but I may have just left... at any rate...

Thats gangsta... maybe she was one of those incubus. You should have been like "why you turnin evil on me baby?!"[] and then told her to stop playa hatin when she was damning you. that would have been funny.

quote:Originally posted by holy reality

later on there was some guy that came flying into my room.. i'm not sure if he was attacking me though, but I sensed that he was up to no good as most of the dreams up until that point had been... so... I levitated him and start smashing him into the wall a lot....

HAHA! your just mean!

quote:Originally posted by Opiate



Practice martial arts in the astral...

Ive thought about putting together something on an astral martial art, i would call it, ASTRAL-DO! Mostly, right now, a manuel on such a thing would be short if i were to write it because certain theories would need to be tested, and on top of that to test them i might have to go looking for trouble which isnt a good idea. what i can say about some kind of martial art is that kicking or punching or stabbing or slicing or whatever doesnt necessarily cause harm but the intent behind such an action is what can leave an effect. For example if i take out a knife in the astral and stab some neg with it it could have no effect whatsoever if there is no intent behind the cut. once you see that its the intent that does the action you can get rid of the idea of a violent action to protect yourself and simply weild intent to get rid of nasties.

[Hey Michael_E]

quote:Originally posted by sweet_celestial_sounds

Hey Michael_E...

I think that was a mistake attacking that entity like that. Seems more to be a result of your fear rather than a response to neg activity. The being may have just wandered by, or come to share something with you. No wonder he had that 'what the heck' look on his face... []

Yes! absolutely, i think it was a mistake too, but one i learned from so HA! I was soo timid that it could have been grandma jones hopping toward me and i probably would have done the same thing...oh well, i only missed out on the opportunity to have a nice chat with what could have been an enlightened being, ugh, live and learn.

quote:Now there may be this green guy with a blue turban talking to his friends about the neg human that attacked him for no reason with knives!... wtf!!! Funny how those fearing an act turn into the perpetrator themselves...

i know... he must have went back to his homies and started rolling on the cosmic web with laughter at such a feeble attack on him by some funny lookin human. But really, the impression i was left with from the experience was that the green guy totally accepted my reaction of throwing two knives at him, kind of like he was thinking "if throwing knives at me helps you gain more confidence and power in the astral then i welcome the experience." thats why he gave the knives back to me. and then by the time i am ok with the fact he wont hurt me, poof, he dissapears.

quote:slim gremlin faced trolls

Silly little monsters how dare they.[]


I went to sleep right after i wrote the initial post last night and it must have had an impression on my subconscious because i had a lucid and right when i decided to lift off into the air a group of little kids started pelting me with what looked like snowballs! I was like, wtf!! where did they come from and where did they get those(there was no snow to throw back at them)!
ugh those little monsters, one of the snowballs hit me in the face and i got mad and flew at them saying  "come here you little runts!" in which they scattered gigling through the walls of a building and some to a tree. Let it be known, if you little monsters can hear or see this, next time i will stick each and everyone of you in a giant snowball and send you down a hill, how do you like the sound of that!![]

ANyways i have more stories with negs, or just me attacking innocent bystanders[:I], but i like to hear of other peoples experiences too. so thanks for sharing yours sweet celestial sounds, if you have any more beatdowns by all means!

quote:Originally posted by Mrsix

Hello there,

Last night, whilst energy raising, I kept hearing what could only be described as "Evil Cackling"..
Before the cackling started, I remember hearing the odd voice saying nasty things to me. I don't often hear anything when energy raising, so it was quite interesting.
Being the placid chap that I am however, I thought it highly amusing and started to chuckle. Which, sadly, stopped the laughter.
Anyone here have any similar experiences? I guess it was probably just a negative entity. Either that, or I'm going mad. But hey, arn't we all.

Rob

aaahhh those nasty little cacklers, i dont even know why they bother... I like the chuckling back approach, if it ever happens to me again im gonna try "MUUWWAHAHHAAAAAAA" right back at em and see how they like it. But really these entities or whatever is cursing us out behind the scenes are big wussies i usually just give em the , "zip it" or "talk to da hand" or if they get really nasty a good "dont make me come ova there![]" these astral baddies dont know whuts up, punks steppin up to get a nice astral beatdown[B)]! I had a little incident last week in which i was setting up a white light globe around my room with another blue-light globe within that one to help keep a nice positive atmosphere in my room. that night i went to sleep, on the brink of lala land i heard "cant you just let a couple of us in?", i was quite taken aback by that,the nerve to ask such a question, and quickly retorted "no! you are not welcome here!" Thats the last i heard of them thus far.

I think they are kind of like astral thugs, nothing better to do than harrass who they think is a target. As soon as they know they wont get anything out of you they move on. Ive only encountered one in the planes and only saw his face. Looked like a drunk hobo and kinda talked like one too...anyways, i was trying to fly and felt a very heavy weight on my back, when i looked back i saw him and he cursed at me in which i took it upon myself to stretch my arm back there a la gumby and poke him in the head with my arm formed in a sharp point and he let go and dissapeared. Unfortunatly not all astral beat downs went so well for me, but i guess that would be good for another thread maybe ill make it, title will be  "ASTRAL BEATDOWNS".

quote:Originally posted by JustLikeThePill

I was working on developing my third eye last night, and I hurt myself! I was getting a really painful pressure last night, so i stopped. I've had that headache all day. I've also been seeing little sparks and flashes of color at random. also, I'll get random pictures that have nothing to do with what I'm thinking. I'll just close my eyes or blink and BOOM! theres a picture that I didn't even think about. Whats up with that? did I hurt myself? before last night, I was just feeling a mild pressure on the areas of the chakras i've been working on, and now my head hurts quite a bit.

thanks in advance,
clint

hi justlikethepill,

i can relate to that feeling, from what i gather the headaches and throbing, random images pop up when you start concentrating your energy in the head area and leave it there. if you leave the energy there it can get rather hot and cause the headaches and pressure to happen. to remedy the headache and pressure be sure to gather and end energy work with the navel. gather excess heat to the navel or point on the spine opposite the navel. Both points are safety-valves for excess heat to be stored and then recycled into cooler "air". Note that the headaches and excessive pressure are a manifestation of an imbalance in the head area, you can get side effects of some sort if you focus in any area for to long, so it is pretty much safe to say its a good idea to distribute the energy work throughout your entire body. Its good to isolate the chakras and work with them individually too, but if done in excess it can create imbalances. The whole body is kind of like one big chakra anyway so working energy throughout it can help with some of the nasty side effects you are gettin.

quote:Originally posted by holy reality



If I do become lucid during deep sleep I can usually adventure for a long time before having to worry about reality decaying and trying to force myself to stay asleep.

My experience with lucids has been the complete opposite. I have very short and rarely remember my lucids during deep sleep. Lucids in the morning hours are always the longest and more lucid because i dont worry about falling into a deep sleep and forgetting the experience and im just more alert of the different state of awareness because im not as fatigued.

quote:Originally posted by CRIMINALMIND63



2. Can you have cold fire? The elements are fire, air, earth and water. We all know that air, earth, and water can be hot, warm or cold, can fire be cold?

I dont know about cold fire, but you can get a similar consequence from both cold and heat. Ice can burn and fire can burn, cold can numb and extreme heat can numb, or atleast both can give burning or numbing sensations on an energetic level. The worst feeling is having insulated layers of extreme hot and cold stuck surrounding each other. The effect is an interesting numbing/burning combination like weird Ben Gay or Tiger Balm.

quote:Originally posted by Blue Giant

Hello,
I was wondering if any of you know how to either stay lucid while your dreaming or recharging your dream to stay in it. I've tried one technique that kept the dream going. I spun around in circles and it completely re-energized the dream. Lately, I've been having dreams where I will wake up in them (become lucid and then kind of drift away from that awareness. Sometimes, I've been able to remember what I wanted to do in a lucid dream by using my memory from the waking state. I've brought forth questions that I wanted answered, but these dreams have diminished over time. Why?

Blue Giant

Greetings Blue Giant!,

Are you asking why are the lucidity of my dreams not as strong as I would like them to be or why am i not remembering my dreams(lucid) more? Well regardless, i will try to answer both as best i can. Ive been lucky enough to have a fairly active lucid dream life and what i have found is that all the tricks that robert bruce talks about like spinning looking at hands or the ground do help to ensure a firmer connection to the dream world.

What also helps for me are doing excersizes that involve the good use of concentration,if you raise the level of your ability to concentrate it seems to become inherent and carries on in the lucid world especially if you do the concentration work right before going to sleep. You can test this your self by not doing any particular excersizes isolating the development of good concentration for a month or so and seeing the difference in both the abiliy to recognize a dream and to take good control over it when compared with when you do concentration practices.

As for remembering the dreams. I can see how getting good concentration could help out there too. The deeper you can concentrate on remembering something the more you will remember! Remebering dreams is best done the MOMENT you awake, dont even move a mucsle when you wake up, set remembering dreams as a priority upon waking and think back to what happened.

Hope this helped at all.

quote:Originally posted by James S

This is where from personal experience I disagree with these methods except for the purposes of training yourself to see more through your peripheral vision.

Typically the colours describe in both of these methods are the inverse of the original colour, which means you're not really seeing an aura, but an afterimage, as the visual effect of colour afterimage is the negative of the original object.

The thing to remember here is that both methods really are just training excercises. When you do actually see a living aura, the part of the aura that is closest to the body (can't remember what the name of this aura is - how slack am I) can change colour, and as it is alive, it moves and pulsates.

Regards,
James.

Hi james!,

I see your point and i agree. The methods definitely have thier purpose for training peripheral vision which seems to be required for auric sight. But part of both thier claims is that the color of the clothing can effect what you are really seeing there, and knowing what the auric pair of the color of the shirt of the person whose aura you are trying to read can tell us what is actually there.i guess what would have have to be done is to view the aura with bare skin then add a colored shirt see what changes occur ect... then there is colored walls combined with colored shirts... Phew sounds like a lot of work. Do you think its worth it?

quote:Originally posted by aleshah


So nevermind to connect to some guide, but your higher self would be always there.

Sure if you dont mind learning only from your self. I prefer a little diversity, hence learing from/with others(guides, teachers, friends).

quote:Originally posted by Yerzak06

So if they cant hurt you, why do people worry at all.
I would just use them as a target for boxing practice.

-Patrick

HAHA! Gonna give all those baddies a nice astral beat-down??? Only thing is if they cant hurt us maybe we cant hurt them too, at least with violence...

quote:Originally posted by Nick


There are only so many lucid dreams that come my way. I am lucky if I can get a couple each month so I'm happy when they occur. Last night I was lucid and did my favorite thing which is to fly. For some reason, when I fly in lucid dreams, I usually start mentally playing the music from the 1978 Superman movie. It's kind of funny, but I seem to get a kick out of it while lucid. []

Anyone else have any interesting flying dream experiences?

i had a lucid last night and couldnt fly, I think because i wasnt situated enough in consciousness in the lucid world. What i did to get situated there better was to allow myself to fall forward from a standing position and right before hitting the ground i would stop and float, then fly around. A kind of either hit the floor or fly situation helped out for that just in case anyone cant fly.