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quote:Originally posted by Yerzak06

Ok, this has been bugging me for years i just want to know what it is. When i start to relax and meditate in order to try and project at first all i see is black, and then it starts to lighten up and all off the sudden these green colors starts swirling around and form green color blobs. It looks kind of like the stuff in a lava lamp. Other colors i start to see are purple, blue , and red. it usually happens when im in deep relaxation and i start to lose the feel of my physical body.

Hey Yerzak06,

I ve seen those too and i think it is a moving image of the third eye. Its the only thing i can think of... One other thing to try out is to open your eyes while you are looking at the swirly lava lamp colors. You can see them with your eyes open too.

quote:Originally posted by jc84corvette

I think QM proves all paranormal.

Maybe...But i dont think just yet. Things are too chaotic on the microscopic level. Quantum mechanics recognizes that "supernatural" things like passing myself through a physical object is possible but it also says something like that would occur due to chance and the chances of that happening are so infintismly small that it seems like it may never be observed. Although if something like that could be repeated many times it would point to another factor other than chance, and right now noone can do such things that i know of.

quote:Originally posted by CptPicard

I've read Robert Bruce's article and found it very interesting. I have attempted some experiments of my own!
I was in the bath and very relaxed....I have white tiles and put my hand up against them... It took me some time but finally I started to see a bright blue light glowing from around my fingers, coming and going, I focused hard but at the same time being very relaxed.......after about 2 minutes of concentrating on seeing the Aura out the side of my eyes the room started changing colours... getting dark and light every 2 seconds, then i could look directly around the room and my wall which is Pink started changing colours like orange, yellow.....
I'm thinking that this is problem with my eyes that after staring at something to long this happens, but then again I'm not absolutely sure..
Any one else had this experience ??

Some strange things happen if you stare off for too long, or look at things a certain way... I havnt seen any walls change colors yet but what i have seen or at least i think i have seen after staring at a wall is kind of like a swirl of colors that make up a round ball. The wierd part is that if i close my eyes it is still there, so i think that might be a picture of the third eye, although i really dont know. Have you seen anything like that? Im interested in what others think that maybe.

quote:Originally posted by Risu no Kairu

You think there are two types of  telepathy? One where you can talk to people and one with animals?

Maybe that's  why people can't read animals' minds, or why the Pet Psychic can't read peoples?

I think there are 5 types of telepathy, one for each physical sense.

quote:Originally posted by Lickerish

I have for years had the power of empathy( sense of others emotions and self).
I prefer it over the power of telepathy because I'd rather feel someone's energy and being than read their mind.
I wonder if anyone else out there has same power and would like to talk about it?

I guess you can say that empathy is a form of telepathy in that someone who is empathic is quick to understand anothers feelings or vibe by feeling it reciprocate in themself. Instead of the form of communication being percieved by means of clairaudiance(hearing) or (clairvoyance(sight) information is being "read" by your feelings(touch?).

quote:Originally posted by aleshah

Why you people need guides?Can't you imagine be your own guide?That seems very strange to me. [?]

I believe, ultimitely, you cant depend on anyone much but yourself or higher-self for your own development. Friends, guides, teachers come and go but your higher self will always be there. Just because you cant depend on anyone but yourself for your own development doesnt mean you dont need to interact with other individuals. A guide or a teacher or a friend give us feedback and outlets for learning but it is up to ourselves to actually do the learning.

Hi AP,

Ive had similar experiences so i figured i would offer a little.
Originally posted by APGuy

 

quote:Well since I had my first vibrations I have gotten minor vibrations whenever I try.  I get bored after a while and give up though because I need some sleep for school.  Anyways last night I got a pain in my right arm/ribs right next to the part of my right arm.  I thought it was an energy blockage so I tried making some energy flow through it.  It went away for a while but then came back so I tried a psychic sword which didn't do much so I made a shield out of white light to push away any negative entities in case it might be a parasite and also if I were close to projection I wouldn't want to be out only to find a neg waiting.

In my experience pain in the body indicates that there is some kind of impedement (so far ive experienced the impedements as either a conglomerate of hot "energy" or cold "energy" or as a spike or thick cloud)in the flow of that area. If it is a minor pain it can usually be taken care of with some brushing of awareness in that area the NEW robert bruce way can take care of that pretty well. If it is chronic pain more frequent and concentrated awareness brushing helps get rid of it. Ive had a number of foot pains that are completely gone because of awareness brushing. There have been times when the pain took the form of a big bug or someother wierd looking entity but regardless of what form the pain or cause of it took the awareness brushing did the trick.

 

quote:Suddenly my door started rattling.  I remembered then that when I was in the US over summer holidays I was paranoid because I wa sin a glass door shower and I made a psychic shield to push out entities.  The door rattled then when I was fully awake.  
I think that the more recent time could have been from the ground shaking from people in the other room however I don't think my door has ever done this before.

I like to think that when your bed shakes or your door rattles or feel someone touching you that its your subconscious desire to project manifesting in a way that is trying to wake you up. I find that after i hear the door rattle or the bed shake while trying to project that i wake up and then find it easier to "get out" when immediatly going back to sleep and trying again. Maybe its a guide of somesort trying to help.

quote:So was that an energy blockage?

from the info you gave i would say yes.
Am I close to OOBEing?
yep. you gettin dern close.

Is there a neg following me?
I cant say...but everyone has some negative things to deal with.

quote:Originally posted by Nagual

I have a little problem: each time I try to fly up to reach space, the further I go away from earth, the more "crazy" my head feels...  I feels like my head is going to explode and so I have to stop.  Any idea?

Thats pretty interesting. Maybe you are subconsciously associating what you would expect to happen if it were your physical body up there. Like hearing somewhere that there are atmosheric condition changes the closer you get to space that would make your head explode. Unconscious expectation as well as conscious expectation can manifest in that way.

quote:Originally posted by jc84corvette

When I am relaxed and concentrate to the darkness I get this feeling in or out of my head. Its like my astral head is moving in a circular pattern. Its like my concious/sub con is moving around my head or something. Know what I mean? What is this?

Hi JC,


I thnk i know what your talkin bout, your mindspace spinds around, sometimes it makes you a little dizzy? sometimes after the spinning stops it feels like im wearing a hat. I get the same sensations when i concentrate on my third eye and crown chakra, so i think the spinning might be an indicator to us that something is going on there. Just what is going on? Maybe the sensation is an indicator that we are entering another state of consciousness. Usually following the spinning sensation i can focus a lot clearer on running energy through my system or whatever it is im trying to do, maybe its one of those shifts from beta to alpha or theta.

quote:Originally posted by wizzle

So, you guys can make that fealing come at any time? Like in the day when your at school or eating or something haha. Because i can make the fealing come any time i want to, i'm not saying the vibes, just the starter for them.

Yea its just a matter of relaxing and remembering the state of awareness, anyone can do it if they want to.

Sounds a lot like what i do too, Just relax myself and pretened like i am asleep and then my legs feel like they are paralyzed. when the paralysis gets to my lower back shivers go up my back and arms and down the front then the more strong vibes come either from my root chakra or solar plexus or navel chakra and shoot up to my head. by that time i am in the awareness to separate.

Have you tried using your hands? Either placing your hands over the chakra or on the skin. Also sometimes the blocks are deep or might involve an emotional change or lifestyle change. Some times it takes more than just focusing on the chakra to get it to open. For example if there is some unwillingness to change or mistrust the throat chakra can be blocked and you would have to deal with that psychologically for it to open. I had a blocked throat chakra too and when i unblocked it by expressing myself better it alightned itself naturally to the heart and i could feel like some coldness and dirt and tension was being melted from my throat area. Some warmth rose up from my heart and made my eyes squeeze very tight and tear and some pressure in my ears was released. I think there is some kind of physical change you might experience if it has effected that level.

quote:Originally posted by The Sapphrite

Hello. I am new to this forum. I think it is a really good forum about a lot of different spiritual things. Ok here is what my post is about. I have been mediating on my chakras for a while, and I came to realize that I have some major blockages in a few of my chakras. The worst one is in my base chakra. I also have one in my throat. Well, I have been trying to get rid of them and have not been successful. I tried using crystals, different meditations, and some other things and it seems like nothing is working. I have tried visualizations and they do not work for me. I have been searching the internet for help and cannot find much of anything at all. I think I might also have some tears or voids in my aura. Well, I can spin my chakras but everytime I try I feel as though some external force is controlling my chakras so they wont spin in the direction that I want them too. If you can help me please do. I feel as though I am in a critical state and need help. Is there a way to tell if the blockages have been cleared or not?? If you know please help me. Thank you!

Yea, i think ap increases sensitivty to the chakras. At one point while i was in that inbetween state i felt a stream come down from my third eye through my nose and down the roof of my mouth it was sooo painful and i could hear a cracking noise as if my bones were moving about i thought my nose was going to break. I think it has to do with some kind of rewiring from new energies that are being distributed.

quote:Originally posted by Tyler

Ever since i started APing (or at least trying to, i still haven't gone out, almost 6 montth its been) ever since i started practising i noticed strange pressure in my head.

It can be characterised as something between the following

-substance expanding/shrinking feeling, somewhere between my eyes
-a hook trapped in my brain and something pulling it in different directions
-or like a hoover stuck in my face and its sucking my 3rd eye out
-a tight wrap around the head

Whats interesting is that this feeling gets more intense when i meditate. And i can direct left/right up/down forward/backward it's motion with my thoughts.

What the hell can it be?

Thats a good question because i think it depends on what you believe. I never had them naturally meaning i had to learn about it before being able to do it, but the way i learned it, i was told that it is very natural, and easy, and anyone can do it and i really believed that and as a result i had one the same night i learned about it. I think it can be as hard as you make it. If you think it will take years to do or months to do you might end up experiencing it in that way.

quote:Originally posted by wizzle

I'm very new to this kind of stuff, i recently just heard of Astral Projection. I knew of lucid dreams and OOBE's though. I was wondering if anyone has Astral Projection naturally, and how long it took other people to acheive their first one.

Days?
Months?
Years?

thanks

Not too long ago someone from work asked me the same question, and nearly everyone i ask has had sleep paralysis at some time in their life. Sleep paralysis is a natural safeguard your body imposes to keep you from acting out your dreams, pretty smart. Jeff's advise is good, if you get it again and remember that its just sleep paralysis and will be gone in a moment, it may help calm your nerves. If not then moving the big toe or pinky finger works like a charm.

When you get more cofortable with sleep paralysis you may start to look forward to it because projection seems easier for some reason while paralyzed. You can say "im flying up" or if that doesnt work and your more tactile orientated you can feel as if there is your realtime body getting up out of your paralyzed one.

Best of luck!

quote:Originally posted by YoungBonzi

For years I didn't know what was happening to me when would try to fall asleep only to be overtaken by an inexcplicable force.  After reading through this forum one night I found a users post by someone who experienced many of the same things I did.  Someone else responded that the best thing to do for Sleep Paralysis is to just say "I am flying up."  So I did a google for SP and found out that I'm not crazy or alone and that millions of people go through the same thing as me.

I was wondering if anyone else has SP and what techniques they use to make it a plesant experience?

quote:Originally posted by LogoRat

Yes, i get the vibrations when i listen to the preset.

Can you do it without the machine?

quote:Originally posted by Nita

Hello Adept
  I also want to comment that there is a website called www.buddhanet.net that has free downloads of ebooks. One of them called cittiunpassana is really interesting. It is watching your own thought patterns and mind. The book is essential because magic is deadly if you fool yourself on your motives or do not know your own thought process's.
  The methods help to prevent rationalization. They make it so you look at yourself and how you act and react. It can save you a lot of problems in your regular life and magical life.
  Nita

I did a search for "cittiunpassana" on the site with no results and couldnt find any meditation guides for it in the meditation links or other related links. Has anyone else had any luck finding this meditation on buddhanet.net?

quote:Michael_E: 1. The leaders of our nations make obtaining money a priority, according to them how much money a nation has or is worth is the main indicator of that nations development. What would be some good alternative priorities for our leaders to set,now, to more accurately measure a nations development?

Z: The way of living of its people would be a possible measure... meaning if they are cared for medically, if everyone has access to enough food and other basic things necessary for living. If all basic requirements are met, one could measure the amount of luxury, free time, culture, science etc., and maybe the amount of conflicts.

I thought this was an interesting answer since i had written a paper last semester on the topic of development and how it is measured which also included some discussion on the implications of defining progress or development in terms of net worth instead of access to basic necessities like: food, health, education. It just seems to make more sense to me to set health, and education and some kind of respect or social conscious as a priority as opposed to getting famous or rich, obtaining money at the expense of others.

What makes these results interesting? The results seem pretty predictably typical of a new age website that they came from. Am i missing something?

here are some questions for the Zeta i came up with:



1.  The leaders of our nations make obtaining money a priority, according to them how much money a nation has or is worth is the main indicator of that nations development. What would be some good alternative priorities for our leaders to set,now, to more accurately measure a nations development?


2.  Is the amount of physical disease in the world related to the conditioning that takes place to support our leaders priorities?

3.  Do you think protests are a good way to bring about social or political change? Why or why not?

4.  are the recently discovered active volcanoes in Chile directly related to or because of the pole shift?

5.  I hope this doesnt open a can of worms but... What are your thoughts on homosexuality?

6.  How do you reporduce?

I was thinking about what you wrote and saw how it tied into a buddhist meditation i recently learned called loving-kindness. In this meditation you elicit the higher feeling loving-kindness through visualization, reflection and using a mantra(loving-kindness). I did this meditation upon going to sleep last night with a little twist steered toward stimulating an AP and got good results. I didnt get out but there was the ol' vibrations, lightness in the limbs and a deeper state of awarness.
  During the loving-kindness meditation i tried what you said about pulling together negative feelings and then reaching out of that back to love and felt the loving-kindness and deeper state of awareness multiplied. That method you suggested really seemed to be doing something and it felt more natural to me than some of the other techniques i had been trying.
I think the key here is the transferring to a higher state of consciousness, in both our cases it was love. Ap takes a transferring of the mind to a higher state of consciousness and so does the experience of love so i can see how one would lead to the other.
Thanks for sharing your experience it was very helpful in trying to understand a natural approach to ap.

quote:Originally posted by Edi

Regarding Michal_E's question in the Conversation thread:

quote:
Could someone in contact with the zeta or a guide ask if an explaination addressing the shifting of the focus of your consciousness to a higher plane resulting in an AP in the simple way described by the zeta can be made available.

I can tell you of my latest experience... after working for 2 days with few sleep I lay in my bed and 'intuitively' (read: by guidance) did the following: I felt love in my heart, just as it was, then for a few seconds pulled myself together emotionally to feel bad, smaal, afraid and so on, just negative, I could feel and almost see my aura shrinking, and then again opened up and reached for love and it was like WOW... like I had stretched an emotional rubber band which then catapulted me right out of my body.
I don't suggest make feeling negativity a habit, as it's the opposite direction of where to go... it just amplified the effect here. I don't know how to call where I ended up, not RTZ, not conventional astral (where all those creepy things are supposed to be.. lol, never saw them), maybe 4th dimension, I'm not clear about all those different namings... I was in my room, could move things (this didn't reach over to physical though)... I'll do more experiments and let you know if I find something.

Probably the key to the 4th dimension is love and emotions... but I'm not sure about the lock and how to insert the key yet

goodnight,
 Edi

quote:Z: Of couse not. Everyone can astral project.. it is in fact only a shifting of the focus of your consciousness to a higher plane. If we want to contact someone via this method, we can get him into the right state by manipulating his electromagnetic field.

P: People themselves make it difficult by using so many methods and theories. It's good if you want to know exactly how it works at one point, but this can also build up mental structures which often hinder more than they help.

This conversation perhaps hinted at a more natural or simple approach to having AP's. Could someone in contact with the zeta or a guide please ask if an explaination addressing the shifting of the focus of your consciousness to a higher plane resulting in an AP in the simple way described by the zeta, can be made available.

i tried out the pendulum method of dowsing using the instructions given by Mayatnik today. I used a cotton thread ( i took from a pair of boxers, since i had nothing else) and a key i dont use anymore. right away i asked for a yes and the key swung forward and back, next i asked for a no and it swung left to right. Some observations:

I asked:

is my name mike(which it is): swung forward and back, yes

Is my name richard: no

do i have a guide: yes

is the guide answering the questions through me: yes

is my higher self answering the questions i am asking: no

at this point i wanted to go back to my first question and asked it again, with the same response. then i tried to ask the question once again this time consciously thinking no to see if i could elicit a no response and low and behold the pendulum swung no. this made me think that you have to be in the mindset of not expecting a certain response in order to avoid conscious manipulation of which way it swings, but at the same time if you close yourself off to any response in an attempt to keep  yourself from interferring with the answer you ll get a still pendulum.

I wanted to find out the guides name, so i asked if we could play a game of hangman, the answer was yes.

made three rows of letters and asked systematically if the first letter was in the top row; if yes went to each individual letter-so on so forth.

The name i got was Lakhe, pronounced laakhee.

I then asked if i should post this on astralpulse and got an answer of yes.

I showed my brother, and i didnt work for any question he asked me to ask it.

quote:Originally posted by Kojie

How is levitation possible through technology?

Using magnetic fields.

[Freedoms as they were granted in the Bill of Rights have faded... We can even see it in the headlines of today. The judge that put up the 10 commandments is being fined 5,000 dollars a day until it is removed. That covered 2 freedoms, and the system shut him down. He has freedom of speech to put the statue in front of his courtroom, and he has freedom of religion to put any relgious object anywhere.Try using your freedom of speech outside the white house shouting that Bush is a joke and he sucks and all, and lets see what happens.Freedoms are dead. America has too many rules. Thanks alot society! :p~Squeek]

I think that 5,000 dollar a day fine has more to do with preserving the separation of church and state.

quote:Originally posted by Squeek

Freedoms as they were granted in the Bill of Rights have faded... We can even see it in the headlines of today.  The judge that put up the 10 commandments is being fined 5,000 dollars a day until it is removed.  That covered 2 freedoms, and the system shut him down.  He has freedom of speech to put the statue in front of his courtroom, and he has freedom of religion to put any relgious object anywhere.

Try using your freedom of speech outside the white house shouting that Bush is a joke and he sucks and all, and lets see what happens.

Freedoms are dead. America has too many rules. Thanks alot society!  :p

~Squeek