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I"m actually remembering more of my dreams since I got on zoloft.

maybe it's really because i'm off my other medications.

yea, the process of phasing is different.

however, you still want to relax and be more interested in your mind than your body.  but that's the good part in phasing, there apparently aren't any physical sensations to distract you.

I had been researching astral projection for years and tried a form of phasing when I was going to sleep (I learned it from a book by a guy named John Magus).  It basically involved tapping my finger on the bed as I fell asleep to try and catch myself in the hypnagogic before i lost awareness and running through very involved visualizations. 

I lost the will to practice but I kept reading.  Years later I got the 90-Day guide, but I AM lazy so I never stuck to it.  Eventually I got Astral Dynamics and started to practice hardcore.  This was when I began to feel the sensations that you're talking about.  I thought I was on the verge, that any day I would be out.  Well, I later found out that the methods I was using were way too involved and it was keeping me too focused on my physical body and it's sensations.  It helped for me to let go of my expectations of physical sensations and focus more on what was happening in my mind.

kidding.

keep it up.

well, kind of not kidding.

when i was where you are it took me about 6-8 months before i got out.

but hey, this is a very subjective and individual experience, you could be out tomorrow.

you are no where near success. 

yea, it works, never thought about trying to define it.

That's why I recommend a pendulum, the answers come from you with a pendulum.  You don't need to contact "spirits".

It is a good idea to learn a little bit about how to handle lower astral entities though.  You don't want to leave the entity in the board, you want to release it's connection so that it can't cause trouble.

Don't listen to Xanth, he doesn't do magick.

Jk, xanth is full of good info.

There are many theories regarding this subject.  I think the key here is not to view your subconscious as separate from the spirits.  It is my opinion that the subconscious is the avenue through which this type of info is filtered.  So it is your subconscious that is moving the viewer, but it is the spirit that is influencing it.  By using the board and inviting the spirit in, you're giving it permission to connect with your energy.  The way it passes info from its realm to yours is through the subconscious.

Have you ever looked into a pendulum?  Its easier to work with than a quija board.  You dont have to call in a spirit, it just works from your natural energetic connection you have with your guides or higher self.  It can also be used anytime anywhere.

Be careful not to try too hard to keep your mind active.  You can inadvertently keep your body awake by thinking about bodily sensations. 

Personally, I don't do anything with my mind but focus intently on one thing (I don't keep my mind very active).  However, if you are going to do something with your imagination you need to make it as engrossing as possible.  You don't really want to put your body to sleep, you want to dissociate from it.  You wanna be so involved in your mental activity that you forget about your body.

You might wanna try some exercise, especially martial arts, to relax more.

Stookie, if that's phasing then phasing is pretty much the only way I've ever gotten out of the body.  I do exactly what you do all the way up to the point of flickering consciousness.  However, I don't ever get hypnagogics or other visual phenomena to phase into.  At some point I just regain awareness and I'm already in the process of separating.  But still, up to that point my process is identical.

I guess I can't pick on you about phasing anymore xanth.  I can still call you a Frankie though.

Frank Groupie - A Frankie

AND - Personalreality,
Sorry, I agree and totally disagree with your comment regarding "meditation" - "oh, and meditation can assist you in control of your focus but it is not necessary". IT <IS> MEDITATION. What is it about people that don't get what meditation is. It has a multitude of healthy purposes INCLUDING AND NOT LIMITED TO astral projection. The practice itself is simply the FOCUS OF AWARENESS within the mind. And what else is Astral Projection? Good God! If more people would give up on the stigma associated with the word "meditation" maybe more people would get it!

Sorry but this forum is getting weird. People are being mislead here. To search within in yourself IS MEDITATION. When you go out of body or astral you are WITHIN YOURSELF. All "focus within". All is within! IN YOU! GOD! ALL BEING, LIFE!
SEE IT!
ENJOY IT!

You seem to be under the impression that there is only one way to self-knowledge.

meditation provides an opportunity to be in closer contact with your self on a regular basis, but it IS NOT necessary for metaphysical work.  No one said you shouldn't do it, I'm just saying you don't HAVE to do it.

meditation is just quieting the mind and turning your focus inwards.  this is synonymous with much of astral projection practice as well as things like shamanic journeying.  i don't think there is a stigma with meditation here.  i think that people here are exploring other methods of self-knowledge (because meditation isn't the only way).  ease up.

Do you mean that you fall unconscious on the floor during waken hours? 

no. 

i mean i don't practice at bed time.  i do practice in my bed though.  I usually project after waking in the morning or more frequently in the afternoon.

i rarely ever experience sleep paralysis, but when it happens you're often caught by surprise and it's very distracting.  Your first thought is focused on your body because it's an unusual thing to experience when awake. 

it could be a "hallucination".

when you transition you can also become aware of energy in a visual manner.

oh, and meditation can assist you in control of your focus but it is not necessary.

I spent months, maybe even years trying to reach "sleep paralysis" with no success.  I was sure that I had to reach a state of total body paralysis, but that's not really true.

You want dissociation from the body.  You want to be so engrossed in the inner realms that the outer fades away into the background.  This can happen through sleep paralysis but that isn't the state you practice for.

Sleep paralysis is a happy coincidence. 

I work in a metaphysical bookshop, around all kinds of people like you.

I haven't spent a lot of time developing my abilities, but i'm a dowser also.

my god, you have an actual name.

i thought your name was xanth.

ryan.....

i have a cousin named ryan.

in fact, all the men on my father's side have first names that start with R.

rusty (me - Russell), richard, ricky, ryan, roger, royce.

better yet, all the Hart men's initials are RLH.

Russell Larry Hart (me - and it's seriously larry, not lawrence....), richard larry hart (my dad), royce luvert hart (grandpa), etc.

sorry to bogart your post emma.

welcome to astral pulse

that point when you feel stuck, try to roll over or my favorite, do a backwards somesault

I didn't read the whole thing, mostly because i'm lazy. 

But sleep paralysis is NOT what you want to achieve.

The vibrational state has nothing to do with sleep paralysis though sometimes they do coincide. 

Sleep paralysis isn't the ideal state to project from because it's SCARY!

sounds pretty close to me.

did you feel like you actually floated above your body at all? 

when i project i seem to almost involuntarily float up then I have to use an exit technique like rolling over, doing a somersault or standing up.

i essentially just go to sleep with a strong intention to project any time other than bed time.  Eventually time seems to pass very quickly all of a sudden and then i just "lose consciousness".  Some time later, don't ever really know how long (though my whole projection experience, from when i lay down to coming back, takes about an hour to 1 1/2 hours so it can't be that long) i just regain consciousness and can feel myself already moving out of the body. 

It's kind of cool because I can "sense" when my consciousness shuts down with the physical body and turns inward.

I disagree with GT's first point, I have had projections without vision.  You can do what Robert Peterson calls mind-sensing.  You can't see but you can "feel" the space.  I've done it before.  I don't have any visual memory but I remember moving through my room, knowing where i was at all times.  I went into the living room and could feel the energy coming from everything in the room.  It was like echo location but i felt the vibrations instead of heard them.

I still think you projected though.

I also stand behind Tiny in that I can't ever remember a body, I always seem to be a flying camera.  Though, I've never really intentionally looked for my body.  Never interested in it.  When I get out I just go.

you know, I never had any of those memory problems.  My first time I was out for at least a minute or two and remembered it fine. 

What i have had problems with is remembering projections when i have multiple in a row.  Sometimes I'll come back to my body and will still be in the right mind so i go again.  Sometimes when I do that I might not remember the first one as well, which is crappy because its usually the longest.

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