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I'm a magick practitioner of sorts, I'll read and comment on this later when I have time.

VampyrCassidy can provide valuable input on this too.  I know him and he's a very powerful and competent practitioner.

It's so much worse out there than where your cognitions have taken you.

Im down tho.  Got my zombie shelter and supplies.

Is it sad that I have a zombie plan but not a tornado or fire plan?

I was gonna put this in the post about this subject but it seems to be locked.....

http://rawstory.com/2010/01/obama-staffer-infiltration-911-groups/

You're trying to hard.

I was at the same place as you about 6 months or so ago.  I changed up my technique and was able to project in a few weeks.  I have a post on here that explains what I did.  I'll find it and post it here for you.

There are legality issue, but on the flip side are personal ethical concerns.  What if someone is planning to use salvia (bad example cause its legal, though not in my state) and they are uninformed.  A post like this could give them the info they need to make a better decision.  I know Adrian has to be concerned with legal ramifications but I'm more concerned with  my fellow humans being as aware of what they're getting into as possible.

There are some songs that have a strong emotional effect on me, you know those ones that make you feel warm and fuzzy inside.  Those songs have produced altered states for me but not anything necessarily conducive to OBE or deep trance. 

Though, i have used shamanic type drumming for shamanic journeying and for trance induction.  It has similar effects as binural beats.

I still have to back up the "don't become dependent on it" sentiment though.  You'll be a better projector if you can project in any circumstance.  It's like magickal practice, you'll be more effective if you can do what they call instant magick, which is basically just learning to create all of your tools mentally and not requiring a specific setting or situation to practice a ritual.

There is no evidence for something that never was.

Sorry i didn't elaborate, I sent that from my phone.

I don't know if the older episodes of the show are still up, but it was a show by a guy named Jason Horsley, who called himself Aeolus Kephas.  In some of the older episodes he talked about his experiences with Salvia and said it was nearly as mind altering as DMT.  He had some very profound experiences on it, like heavy duty dissociative experiences.  Out of body type experiences. 

He said he had very positive experiences.

Supervision is necessary though.

Robert Peterson explains that mind state better

The government is all over the internet.  They plant people in forums like this to shake things up, spread disinformation, troll, and just cause chaos.  They literally pay people to do just that.

Don't ask me for proof either, that's why its a conspiracy, because they are conspiring in secret so that their actions remain hidden.  There is sometimes proof for conspiracy, there is also a lot of disinformation going in both directions.  It's not unheard of for "them" to provide conspiracy information to divert attention from what "they're" really doing.

Has anyone ever heard of the starchild skull?

Seems out of context, but quite the contrary.  It is practically proven to be a human/alien hybrid skull. 
www.starchildproject.com

I heard a Red Ice podcast the other day where the head researcher was sharing info about their latest breakthrough with nuclear DNA testing (as opposed to mitochondrial DNA which only shows the mother's genetics, the mother was human).  The other half of the DNA from the skull doesn't match anything in scientific DNA databases, nothing.  It's almost 50% unknown DNA.  Alien.

It's relevant because it backs up a lot of conspiracy researchers like David Icke or even archeologists who have think it but won't say flat out CONSPIRACY! like Zecharia Sitchein.

Point is, we intuitively know that something is fishy because it's in our DNA.  Our genetics contain the "master plan" of those who created us, those who from heaven to earth came and all that jazz.  Tell me you don't think the government watches the internet with more zeal than China and I'll show you someone who's ignoring their intuition.  That's just the way it is.

It's good to see you here.

Tiny, check out a podcast called stormy weather

That's seriously right out of the book of buddha.

Though, it's such a different experience when you come to the same conclusions through your own exploration.  The revelatory experience is different.

the now moment in buddhism (and hinduism and sikhism) is called 'samadhi'

I'll bite. 


*sets an apple down infront of PR*
*points to the apple*

PR, that's an apple. 

Subjective or Objective? 
Seems pretty objective to me.   

smart butt

how do you know the apple is there?

you saw it, you touched it, you're seeing it.

if you turned around, your back to the apple, how do you know it exists at all still?  

you have a memory of it, of touching it, seeing it, 'not tasting it'  .

the only part of that apple that remains is your experience of it, the solidity of the apple is fleeting.

The only way you can ever know the truth of an apple is through your experience of it.

what objectivity assumes is that i am having the same experience of the apple as you are.

You know that I'm not, intuitively.  It is a literal impossibility for me to experience that apple as you do.  

The experience of consciousness is truly infinite, there is infinite creative potential.

Why exist if we're going to experience the same existence, even for something as minute as an apple?

That's a waste of energy.  Reality doesn't waste energy, all energy is recycled and reused.

We are having unique experiences.  When I turn away I too only have my memory of my experience with the apple.

We could then go deeper into subjectivity from here but it's not necessary now.

What's necessary is to recognize that you can't prove that the apple exists independent of your or my experience of it, other than in our minds, which in my opinion is in the astral.

make the pdf

I agree, I bought one of Oh No's cds because of the beats. 

Madlib doesn't produce them right?

I'm more of a quasimoto fan.

Do you just go for hip hop stookie, or do you like electronica too?

Have you hear Jimmy Edgar's album Color Strip, I've been all about him lately.

Its supposed to be a magick recipe.  Haven't seen it before though.

You could just sage smudge yourself and cleanse using personal power or candles.

I'm not a disciple of jung.  I don't follow anyone, that's the difference between me and you.  I look to myself for answers, not an imaginary being.  And for you, Jesus is imaginary.  You haven't met him, you have nothing but a collection of thoughts on Jesus.

Its not flippant for me to doubt the existence of a literal being named Jesus based on ONE AND ONLY ONE written document that mentions him.  What I do trust is the hundreds of other stories from various cultures that are identical to the Christ story.  And that is the definition of an archetype.  A natural force that is represented by cultures around the world that appears by psychic means not physical communication between people. 

That's what bugs me the most about religion, claiming truth in a book written by men.  Seriously think about it.  You have one book and your only evidence that the book is truth is that it says so IN THE BOOK!!

Really?

The only thing you can't touch with the tip of your finger is the tip of your finger.

Doesn't mean there's no wisdom to be found in holy books.

My boss has done tv in Japan and told me the same thing.  He could do psychic tv there but he couldn't do psychic tv that had anything to do with ghosts.

truth is subjective at best

Right is relative.

But you've still inspired me to read Frank's posts.

frank groupie

no, there is no evidence of jesus.  unless you count all the fake stuff, like the bible

He makes some of the tightest beats in the world. Little brother to producer Madlib:

http://www.accesshiphop.com/store/?itemid=11885

Now that I think about it, it might not be the same guy...

word.

but madlib's little brother sucks

i've been listening to beat konducta vol 1-2 all day today