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I never liked Castaneda's work and too many people believe that Don Juan was real.

Have you read any from Robert Peterson? I believe the are all free.

He also gives great reviews on AP books and tells you if they're "how to" mostly or are loaded with personal experiences.

I recently had an experience where I gained my awareness and I saw a skinny old man lying down next to me.

This did not scare me but there are several reasons why this bothered me.

I tried to push him off the bed and he weighed a ton, I wasn't even sure I got his attention until he yelled "Hey, you need to take it easy, this is my bed."

I looked around and realized that I had no idea where I was. I tried to apologize and I felt even worse when I noticed that he was nurturing some injuries.

Then he said something about expecting more from me.

I woke up feeling terrible.

I am glad you like and agree with the post.

I figured transferring the physical body into an astral projection was a good title. I know I just said physical but I mean the body. I have transformed matter too tho using the same methods.

You explained very well how our beliefs can shape and change our physical manifestations but I think that I no longer see the physical world as I once did.

Astralprojectee, no offense, but I think you have some issues that are far more important than AP right now.

Perhaps it would make sense if you put it on the back burner until you can better understand other things.

That's just my opinion though, and if you feel that AP can help you, then I believe it will. Just be sure that you are not digressing in other areas.

I just don't see what the Thread Title had to do with what was a very good post otherwise.

Now if you had called it Mind over Matter or something like that, I could make the connection.

Still, I think you're pretty much right even though I have never tried to change anything in this physical world through an AP.

Sometimes when you get back you don't really reintegrate- you are still perceiving with your energy body and not with your physical body, so things will look weird and different, but it eventually wears off.
Most people comment about how things look/feel as they are separating, not usually about how things look after they reintegrate.

Hey you need to cut that out. You can't just start talking some common sense all up in here.

Sorry, that was my interpretation of a character I just watched in a movie.

Excellent point as reintegration is not commonly talked about and it can get strange.

This is the stage that I will make some of my most concrete memories. For instance, I saw my cat in this stage and she had some big ticks on her. They were so gross that I decided that I would take her to the vet to have them removed.

I got up that morning and went to work. I suddenly remembered that I had to make an appointment with the vet. It was a very natural recall about needing to call the vet but then I recalled the why and I knew than that they were just monstrously large and that it was from a projection.

This is the kind of crazy that some of you are working so hard to achieve?

Don't make validation the point of every OOBE. The validations will come and you can force them sometimes but it's more mind blowing when they just occur.

It can take weeks before you even realize that one of your experiences has been validated.

There is so much subjective junk that you will have to work through so just make awareness and memory a goal in the beginning.

so is that really AP related stuff of just my mind playin' tricks on me

That is the question on everyone's mind and we all have to answer that for ourselves.

You probably just need to experience the falling sensation a few more times to become comfortable with it.

You will have to trust every "step" or repeat it until you do.

So if I'm lying on my back (without a pillow) I should bite my teeth together? If I would completely relax my jaw then my mouth would open, why would I bite my teeth together? Wouldn't that be the opposite of relaxing?

Keyword: allow

If you choose to go without a pillow then you would have a hard time allowing this to happen. You must choose your own position and deal with whatever comes with it. You never want to force anything.

I'm just trying to get you to see this from a different angle.

You are frustrated with failure instead of acknowledging the success that you have made. I honestly do not know what makes that subtle difference for those of us that finally achieved our first conscious AP but I do believe that most people are at the threshold of success and some have even crossed it and did not realize it.

Perhaps they have set their expectations too high. They expect their first OOBE to be just like the great experiences that we have all read. The kind that changes people's lives forever and leaves no doubt that we are not flesh and bone but spirit. They expect to meet great beings of enlightenment and become privy to great secrets of the cosmos.

The reality is that these kinds of experiences are rare. Many of us have had them but most people have to spend years navigating their way through something that may not even be navigable. It certainly can't be charted on a map but what we learn is based upon years of micro experiences with the occasional grand OOBE.

We then use labels and terms to describe common experiences so that we can relate to one another and hopefully verify in some small way that what we are experiencing is objectively real.

This is necessary in order for us to learn from one another but it leaves many beginners with high hopes and expectations that lead them to believe that they are not successful.

Just as Thomas Edison learned a thousand ways on how not to make a light bulb before he finally succeeded, so do you learn each time that you are not successful if you choose to see it that way.

I just seem to be relaxed and in a state of nothingness.

When I use to word nothingness I mean I'm not sleeping, not dreaming, not fully awake, not feeling any sensations.. nothing. I just lay there.

These two phrases have very different meanings and so I misunderstood what you were saying.

I'm glad that you read through some of the stickies. They are there for a reason.

Just don't give up. Take a break from it if you feel that you are getting too frustrated. You'd be surprised at how many people have their first OOBE when they take a break and have no expectations at all.

My local radio station dropped C2C AM and now airs Ground Zero with Clyde Lewis. I am still extremely ticked off about the change but I am warming up to the show and the main host. I still have not heard enough to know how far this guy leans and in which direction but last night's show was how this reality is just a simulation that is manipulated by the people that are in the know.

The guest has the basic attitude that I do. We may be screwed but learning all we can and applying the knowledge we gain is our only hope. It may not be enough but what else can we do?

Another positive is that it starts two hours earlier.

I just seem to be relaxed and in a state of nothingness.

You may have failed at "separation" but you have reached the necessary state.

What you are calling nothingness is what many call being connected to everything.

I felt bad letting him go, but it was best. I almost asked him to wake up. Cali is still waiting for him. Thank you soarin12, TheGuardian, and Sixx for your thoughts, and anyone who sent thoughts and healing but didn't post. I want to see him and how his transition was, but not sure how.

You probably won't even have to try and see him. He will most likely appear to you in a dream and it shouldn't take long.

I'm sure you already know by now that you made the right decision. Some people will never understand how some of us can have such a strong bond with our pets but then again, we don't view them as pets. They are family.

I would also note that Contenteo's advice about allowing your upper and lower teeth to just touch will also help alleviate the need to swallow because you will naturally produce much less saliva when your teeth are touching.

This sounds really interesting thanks for the suggestion.

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I don't think my explanation of how I do it has ever been particularly helpful to anyone but this is what I do.  I lie down, relax, close eyes, don't move, a song begins playing in my mind, I 'space out', my vision becomes 3-d within seconds, I passively watch any visuals I get, feel heavy, hear rushing noise, loose awareness of physical, then to AP.  The whole process often happens within seconds.  Once I projected within a second of closing my eyes.

If your method isn't helpful to someone then it's only because they are over thinking it. If they could just understand that it is as easy as you just said it was, there would be no need for this website.

I don't know what my "fastest" time is but I know it's minutes and not seconds and definitely not A second, so your advice should be helpful to everyone.

It does take time and experience but if you can learn to "capture" certain feelings and then recognize their onset, you will have a great advantage.

Just don't get caught in the trap of anticipating the feelings because anticipation is expectation and that is the greatest cause of most failed attempts.

Another thing to consider is that you will not always feel the same sensations when you are successful so keep that in mind.

The only "feeling" that I can honestly say I feel in every intentional phase is what I call being "locked in". It's that point where you are about to project and nothing can stop it until you are "out of body" at which point, fear and excitement can send you straight back.

The first few times I called it the "holy crap, I'm in it now" feeling, but that was back in the fearful days.

I'm sure at least a few know have had the same feeling from time to time but it happens every time for me.

I start to hear a buzz in my ears but it's more of a sensation than an actual noise. Then whatever hypnagogic images that I was seeing (or the blackness depending on the actual time) will disappear and I will see what I can only describe as thousands of glittery stars.

I call it being locked in because at that moment, neither fear or excitement stops the OOBE from occurring.

However, Like I said earlier, once you're out, fear and excitement can send you straight back. That's not cool but it's one of those things that you won't be able to deny to yourself and just having that "knowing" feeling is a great advantage as well.

I heard a joke the other day that was nice and clean. I guess that's part of the reason why I found it so funny. Everything is so raunchy today.

A traveling salesman is taking a shortcut down a country road and he comes across a gravel road that leads to a farm house. He figures, "What the heck, might as well stop and try to a make a pitch."

He pulls up to the house and is about to get out of his car when he notices a huge three-legged pig running up to him.

An old farmer comes out of the house and is obviously laughing at the fright of the salesman.

The farmer hollers to the man, " Come on out Mr. Betsy don't me you no harm, she just wants to greet you is all."

Reluctant to leave the safety of his car is no match against the prospect of a sale so he exits his car slowly. Betsy immediately sniffs and circles the man like any old hound dog would, wagging her little tail.

The farmer gives the stranger a good look over and dashes the man's hopes right off. "Look here sir, I don't buy nothing that I ain't already had plans to buy so I'm afraid you wasted your time coming here but you're already here in any case, so you might as well stay for a glass of some cold ice tea."

Not one to be deterred, the salesman agrees knowing that he will find an opening at some point.

"Take a seat here", the farmer say pointing to a couple of chairs on the front porch, "I'll be right back."

He takes a seat and Betsy sits down near him. He had never seen a pig act so friendly just like a dog and he was quite interested in her, especially about her three legs.

The farmer returns with their tea and the salesman can't resist asking. "That's a might fine pig there. I ain't never seen one so friendly. If you don't mind though, I'd like to hear about how she came about losing her leg."

"Well, Betsy has been in the family for a long time she like a part of the family now." The farmer goes on to explain how one of his sons was fishing in the pond in the back acre of the land. His son fell in the water and he wasn't a good swimmer so the pig came running to the house squealing and yelping until someone finally figured out that she was trying to get their attention. So they quickly followed her to the pond where they were able to save the boy just in time.

The salesman was amazed by the story but was perplexed how this led to the pig losing its leg.

The farmer explained that he was getting to that. He went on to tell he man how a year or so later, everyone was asleep in the house since it was early in the morning. The pig again starts it's squealing and hollering but nobody wakes up. So old Betsy charges the door until she finally knocks it down and she goes room to room waking everyone up. As it turns out, the house was on firs and Betsy saved all their lives.

"Oh, I see", says the salesman. "She lost her leg in the fire."

"No," the farmer explains. "We all all got out without so much as a hair on any of our chins burnt off, including Betsy, but a when you got pig that darn smart and useful, it's a shame to eat her all at once."

For the record I will state my beliefs .  We have a soul , there is a God , a being of pure   consciousness , and energy .  We create our realities , good and bad . Humans are made up of 4 bodies phy, astral , energy , and mental or the higher self .  After death we make a choise as to where we go on the astral plane or to reincarnate .  During deep sleep we all got out of body , and some times remember it as a dream . 

I see much of my as the same time with some variations but overall, I expect we may find ourselves at a temp BST together..

Hi Guys.

I've noticed that a lot of members have conflicting thoughts about what to think about some of the more experienced projectors and our beliefs systems.

My beliefs are all over this site and if you have any questions, please feel free to ask me for clarification. You do not even have to be nice when asking. I take no offensive.

Just give the example of what I said and I will try to explain as clearly as possible, and as always, I do not want to convert anyone into my way of thinking. Only an idiot would take my beliefs at face value with out their own experiences to back them up.

Yes, but one reason they refuse to believe it is because they are receiving conflicting points of view from the most experienced members of Astral pulse.  Lionheart and Szaxx continually share experiences about retrievals and ET entities which they believe to be coming from OUTSIDE of themselves.  So what are people to think?  I personally have had enough experiences to believe that most of my neg. experiences are my own fears manifesting, but how could I be sure that they ALL are when I have experienced members telling me that they are meeting ETs and are helping lost souls and have verification to prove it?  See what I mean?  Am I missing something??   

I think you are misunderstanding them. They are indeed talking about coming into contact with sentient beings but they aren't talking about demons and monsters and vampires. There are plenty of beings that don't have our best interests at heart but there are no demons, I can't overstate that enough.

The scariest things anyone will face is there own demons manifested. Plain and simple. These go away after understanding and confrontation. But if you keep giving into fear and avoid the "fight" your mind only makes them stronger. It's a loop and it serves a purpose that I don't filly understand.

Keep in mind that we are also trying to be sensible to the Christian beliefs of others and try not to be offensive .

I am glad you enjoyed reading!

After I initially allowed blue into my body it just seemed so easy to hear all of her thoughts and ideas. Her projections interfaced directly into my mind and so the lessons I received were easier to digest that way. All a spirit has to do in that form is cast a spell or effect and i see exactly what they are doing. When they are inside of me they can easily guide my thoughts and projections making it easy to learn from them. I know that all that is needed is a telepathic link, which they have with me, but there is also an intimacy that is present, that i enjoy. I dont allow them control over my body, it never has came to crossing that line.

It sounds like you really know what you are doing but if there is ever a point that that are taking more than they are giving than you should reconsider setting new boundaries.

Safe travels friend.

I've heard some people say this, and they talk about how they are happy with what they have.

This is the case for everyone, no matter their situation. You have to be happy with what you have, be it a billion dollars in the bank or a billion in debt.

IS this just an excuse that they never got to go to college?

I can only suppose that you are struggling personally with college being your goal right now and this is why you assume that happiness hinges on it.