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What happens here is that someone will do "something" before bed, and they'll have an experience... then for some stupid reason they'll try to make the connection between that "something" and the experience happening. 

There's no connection beyond the one you *WANT* to see.

AP aside, I'm grateful that many people have made stupid assumptions. Without them, we would not have antibiotics and many other life saving discoveries.

AP in specific, I think you're probably right about this one but we already know that there are some chemicals that do enhance dream capabilities. It's not out of the realm of possibilities that something in apples does too.

Anything to report back Hindsight?

Your body was physically in SP but consciously, you were free to go anywhere you want.

Everything you said sounds pretty straight forward and normal to me.

You aren't saying that you picked up these wands physically are you?

Apparently in all those years of schooling he never learned you can't prove a negative.
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LMAO. Thanks.

When I feel that I am swaying I move away from my body.   It is easy to move yourself.   If you do not like doing that you can imagine the swaying getting bigger and bigger until your inner self goes completely out of your body.   You will probably get thrown out or you might fall on the floor.    That happened to me once.   I got thrown onto the floor and I got up.   

I don't usually use an "exiting" technique but I have also thrown my "astral body" against the wall when trying to rock or sway out.

When these anomalies happen, it really does seem as if I am leaving my body.

What I'm trying to say is that all this feels and "is" incredibly simple, but trying to explain it to someone that has not experienced it or may have experienced it in a different way is the real challenge. And in the same way, trying to understand what all this babble really means is really difficult. At least it was for me when I started reading about OBEs, projections and all that.

I challenge anyone to say this in a better or more concise manner.

Perfect IMO.

Just because physics has no way to explain how aliens can travel these great distances does not suggest that aliens don't exist.

His arrogance has to be grounded in that dilemma, right? I can't think of anything else in psychics that would exclude alien life. It frightens him to be the dumb man in the room and his ego needs to be comforted.

I think you are well on your way. Don't change a thing as it is clearly working.

Dreams can repeat or continue in several kinds.

In some dreams the story continues completely, in some dreams only the area is the same, and in some dreams the action is the same. Story, deepth, length and content of such dreams can vary widely!

If one wants know more about own continuing dreams, i suggest to use a dream diary, otherwise it is almost impossible to follow such dreams properly.

The kind of continuing can vary. I know these kinds of continuing dreams (episode dreams):

You should give a link (if it is still online) to your book when you quote from it. It's very well thought out and I learned a lot from it.

I never viewed them as actual vibrations either but it's a term that most of us know so it's useful to be consistent so that we can understand each other.

The downside is that some people take this literally and think that they are doing something wrong when they don't feel their bed shaking.

I think calling them waves is also very accurate as far as how I see it. Once you become accustomed to the vibrations, you will most likely note a wave like affect.

Don't anticipate them or expect them to occur. They aren't necessary and waiting on them to "arrive" can make you miss the boat.

They have returned.

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Personally, I believe in reincarnation. I have seen evidence of it in my personal explorations. I believe that he purpose of physical life is to evolve as consciousness and one life is simply not enough to get that done. We we wouldn't even have enough time to know of all the lessons, much less learn them.

With that said, I don't think it makes any sense to put a number on the amount of times a being does reincarnate.

We all need help from others to learn and grow so why should/would one consciousness stop helping others because they have learned all their lessons. Would they want to stop? I don't know these answers, I'm just asking myself.

There's nothing we can say that you haven't already heard. So I don't know what will finally give you any comfort other than to say that you already project every time you dream. You seem fine so far, other than a little fear.

How bad do you want to astral project? Is it worth seeing demons and bad ghosts or what ever it is that haunts your thoughts? If not, stop trying to project and just move on. You don't need any of this to be happy or grow spiritually or anything else for that matter.

If the answers are worth the risk, then you'll be glad you did but there is absolutely nothing that any of us can say that will make YOUR fear go away.

Good luck.

Just remember that every experience is a lesson and we see what we want to see while other times we see what we need to see.

The day may come when you see something that you wish you hadn't but it will be for a reason and it won't be more than you can handle. 

I think whitewisps is referring to psychic powers. While I guess some people do refer to them as gifts, I don't think they speak of it in the sense that they were given these abilities from someone. It's more of an awakening of their awareness of having such abilities all along.

Personally, I only have glimpses that occur just often enough to avoid being labeled as fleeting.

Concerning the intense visualization during the actual reading, what kind of altered state of consciousness do you think we're in when it happens?
Is it just pure imagery of the "words" or do you think you could achieve phasing on a regular basis ?

Anything that takes your attention away from your present physical environment alters your state of consciousness. I'm not suggesting that reading a book will make you a Zen master but it helps your visualization skills and that is key for most people. It also relaxes most people and puts them in a restful state.

Some believe that reoccurring dreams mean that we have something that we either aren't dealing with or is indicative of a lifelong battle/temptation.

Sometimes there will be changes in these dream which may indicate that we are dealing with some of the aspects but aren't tackling the big problem.

This is just a broad generalization though and not a strict interpretation.

Welcome to the Pulse.

The time of day that you have an OOBE does not matter. You can have one at night and project to a place where the sun is shining bright.

You were correct when you assumed that you do not need to be in SP to project as well. It's just that when you are in SP, you are already in the necessary state so it can be helpful.

One week is nothing. I'm sure some people have projected on their first try but the vast majority spend months before they are successful. Some have spent years with no luck.

If you are uncomfortable or have a bad itch, move and scratch the itch. It's better to get it over with then to spend the whole time dwelling on it.

Don't give up and good luck.

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There has been a rise in the number of fear based questions lately so I wanted to take a little time to talk about it.

Fear is probably the number 1 reason that most people fail at astral projection. Evidence suggests that when people stop their attempts frequently due to fear, their brain is rewiring itself to invoke fear faster and faster each time the person quits. Each subsequent failed attempt serves to form new synaptic pathways which help your brain to work more efficiently when it is being confronted with something frequently. This ability of the brain was meant to be a positive thing but it can can work just as well with negative conditions.

This hasn't been proven to be the case for AP specifically but there is no doubt that the brain rewires itself after the repeated practice of musical instruments or learning how to type for instance. When the brain recognizes something that happens often, it likes to be a buddy and help you out by creating short cuts for something familiar. This is what allows great musicians to sing and play instruments simultaneously and seemingly with little effort.

This is why it is a good idea to work on some of your fears before you seriously start to attempt AP. You don't want to help fear out in anyway and constantly giving in to fear only serves to insure that it will arise faster. However, with determination and practice, you can still overcome it.

There are many different fears that cause people to give up too soon but the most common two are the fear of death and the fear of encountering demons and other nasty beings.

Death being a possibility or consequence of AP should be the furthest thing in your mind. If someone were to die while projecting, it would only be because it was their time to go. They could have been doing anything at that time and the results would have been the same. There is absolutely no causal effect.

Dealing with your fears of encountering demons and such is a little more complex. It can stem from a religious background or even from your personal interests. Some people have noticed a distinct correlation between their fear of demons and their preference of scary movies and such that deal with them as subject matter.

Everyone likes to get a little scared from watching a scary movie from time to time. The problem is that when you start to worry about demons, your brain will recall the images and emotions you felt when you were enjoying those scary movies. However, it only recalls the fear and not you enjoyment of watching the films. So you might want to consider watching less scary movies if you think this might be a contributing factor.

My personal belief in regards to demons is that they started out as a normal consciousness like you and I. The problem is that they have trapped themselves into constant state of jealousy over the living, self hatred, and hopelessness.

In other word, they have wasted most of their opportunities to evolve and are thus devolving into nothingness. Can you imagine how angry and bitter you would be if you wasted all this potential? If you do happen to encounter something that you perceive to be one, it is best that you just leave it be and go on your way.

However, if you think that you have it in you to confront one, pay close attention to their real energy and not the projection that they want you to see. They usually do not match. In one of my earlier experiences, I encountered one of these beings. When this being realized that I wasn't buying into it's act, it started to struggle with maintaining it's demonic image.

She was a teenage girl (probably a suicide IMO) and thought I was a demon coming to take her to hell. I was not aware of retrievals at that time so I did not pursue her to help. Besides, she was just too scared of me anyways.

When it comes to facing our fears, I believe that Robert Peterson said it best. He said that we need to figure out what the worst consequences are for what we want to do and decide if we can accept them. If so, you are ready to begin.

Many people don't like to take the time to meditate and if they don't, it's akin to jumping into the deep end of the pool without knowing how to swim. Meditating allows you to experience different states of consciousness. I can't tell you how many hundreds of threads that exist in which the poster says that they are in SP but they still can't get "out".

Well, if you really are in SP, all you need to do is realize that you are already in the necessary state of consciousness needed to project. Meditating helps you to realize this.

Another proven success factor is to take a short (30 min- 1 hr) nap a few hours before you make an attempt to project. This works because you are already a little closer to that state that you need to be in due to the short nap. Do not attempt to project while taking this nap.

I can't stress enough how powerful affirmations are. Saying them puts your subconscious mind on notice that you fully intend to have a projection. They work great and fast. Say them to yourself several times a day and have real meaning in the words you choose.

You should also avoid all source of blue light for at least an hour before you make an attempt. Televisions, computer screens, I-pads, and even cell phones are all sources of blue light. Blue light screws up your internal sleep clock so the brain releases less melatonin that helps us relax and get some sleep.

My favorite thing to do during this hour is to read a good book. There's no better way to exercise our visualization skills. Reading also puts us in an altered state of consciousness.

This actually led to one of my best validations. I was half way through a book when I projected right into the story. I got to watch it play out as an observer watching a play. I learned later that almost everything I saw played out exactly like it did in the book. There was even a new character that had not been brought up in the book at the point that I had quit reading it. It was a jaw-dropping and blissful moment.

If you are just starting out and have had a few successes, you may not have even recognized them for what they were. Don't worry. It takes most people many experiences before they have the ONE.
That one experience that makes you want to tell everyone you know, how real AP is. It erases all doubt in your mind and motivates you to double your efforts.

Good luck to all of you.

My first thoughts were inline with Lightbeam. After reading some of his stuff, I had the idea that he is not a projector but has studied his butt off.

I understand what Xanth is saying but I can guarantee that he has no personal experience with someone who has died while AP and being touched. So that is disinfo in my book.

If he is correct, he owes it to the world to tell us for free the circumstances so that we can understand the phenomenon.

He is not teaching from personal experience but rather from fantastic stories that he has read.

I'll stick to that too.

Welcome to the pulse.

SGJ is trying to get you to buy his program. He wants you to think that there is danger in AP but you don't have to worry. All you have to do is buy his program and he will tell you how to AP safely.

That's it. It is a marketing ploy.

I have never been a fan but a lot of people that I respect do like him.

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Xanth= Correct.

I hear you DreamOn.

I have lived in San Diego, Houston, Dallas, and Jacksonville. Jacksonville is huge BTW. I coudn't believe how huge it is compared to the other cities. Houston will soon be the third largest city in the US by population but JV is the largest city in the US by sq miles.   

Anyways, getting back to nature is always a dream of mine as well. However, I know that I am where I am supposed to be for a reason. I don't know that reason yet but when I do, I'm heading back to Population:1 somewhere.

This day and age, it is almost impossible to not have to rely on someone else but I want to get as close to that as possible. That includes not having a spouse.

I've been on five dates in the last two years and they were all first dates only. I just can't see myself supporting or co-living with someone so stuck in today's culture. I certainly can't imagine raising a child today though I would if the need to arises.

I think I would be a great provider and friend but a poor father. I'm rambling now so I'll end it here.

Just don't feel like you're alone in this.

Hi all, I think I am achieving ap.   I did not go to bed as I want to go to sleep.   I always stop trying to ap when I am in bed.   I went into another room.  I laid down on a very thin mattress.  It is not comfortable.  If it is too comfortable it is too easy to fall asleep.  I was lying on my back for a little while.  I decided to lie on my side as it is more comfortable.  I knew I had to concentrate otherwise I will likely fall asleep.   My body was feeling different.   I got a bit afraid which is silly.  I should not have got afraid.  I have had lots of experiences and I hardly ever get afraid.   I was kicking my legs up and down as I was afraid.  I thought I have had enough of this.  I am going back to bed.   I did not realise that I was spiritually out of my body.   I thought I was physically out of my body.   I went back into my body.   If someone wants to do what I am doing, I would suggest it is a good idea to mediate before you practice ap for a while.  When meditating it seems to not make me tired or as tired.  I realise what works for me, may not work for you.  Just trying to help.   I feel really good.  I think I will be able to do it again.   

I think you are correct. Meditation is not required to project but if someone has been trying for years and doesn't meditate, I have very little sympathy for them. Meditation is what allows us to recognize the different states of consciousness that we can have. That's why it is so helpful when you're just lying in bed trying to project and all the while, you're already there but can't recognize it. If that person was a mediator, they would recognize this.