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Hi there.

I guess I may be one of the changes you mentioned but what has not changed is the sincere good will and hope that we spread, so considered those good vibes to arrive shorty.

But most of them won't know.  I just went to an UK based forum and posted a few links to this type of discussion, and most people didn't even know about this.  They can't request something they don't know is there.  Of course, this is slowly becoming more known, but will it be fast enough to defeat it?

That is their point. Most people just go with default settings. Couple that with an unawareness of subject matter and this greatly reduces people coming across something by chance.

The info behind this agenda is out there but as usual, the only people who know, already know it.

This is not the most nefarious of plots but ripples in a pond....

Oh... I have just realised that I am completely ignored when I attack conspiracies.

I'll shut up in future. 

Put up and shut up as they say.

You would have to be crazy to understand and that is not something I wish for anybody.

This is a little misleading. MK-Ultra was (is?) , according to declassified documents, a reality and not just a conspiracy theory. Even the skeptic societies' main outlet - Wikipedia ! - admits it:

Oh yeah, that what was real and was a nasty one indeed. They messed up some people's mind, no doubt.

I think SW was referring in specifics to MK-Ultra's interest's in the sleeper soldier program in regards to astral projection.

But if not, then I'm a bit confused too. MK-U was a real program.

Leave it be Sam. Everything is a lesson. We are bombarded with so much these days that it's only fair to question something you are unsure of.

Shoot me now, Please!!

Sam,

You have to understand that some people fear the unknown. This happens for many reasons but a biggie is because some people don't want you to gain the benefits. They want the masses to stay ignorant their whole lives.

First they will try to say that it isn't possible. But then people realize it is, so the strategy has to change.

Okay it is possible, but this can happen so don't do it. And actually, that's about it as I don't think they have ever dropped this strategy. They just change the "what" in what can happen.

If cloning was the real problem, why wasn't this the message presented from the beginning?  Sure people could understand the concept but thousands of years ago the tech was so far out of their perspective that no one thought to use it as a tactic.

But really Sam, why would this even pass your personal "sniff" test? I think you already know garbage when you smell it.

I forgot to mention it before But I was able to catch the show. It was really interesting to me how much they were able to verify from the information they brought back with them.

It was all very respectable as I figured it would be or the group would not have done the program.

For people who are interested in doing retrievals, it's a must watch.

If one doesn't have medical reasons for not fasting, i.e diabetic, than fasting in moderation has been shown to have many great effects.

Once you have started burning fat and the hunger feeling lessens than there may be a window that opens that could make having an OOBE easier.

However, you may be seeing giant cheeseburgers from the planet McMars the whole time.

Seriously though, if your health doesn't preclude fasting from being a bad idea than, it might help some.

Understand that it takes a Dr. to tell you if you are healthy enough.

I must have missed this thread.

I'll give a list of some of the songs that have become important to me. I am one of those that, I tend to associate a song with memories, you know first kiss, first whatever, when my dog died, when I met so and so, that kind of stuff.. Some reasons are very obvious to me while others are not.

Perhaps that will explain the range. If you find the lyrics or imagery offensive or aren't congruent with a spiritual path, don't worry because I agree. It's just that I can't erase the importance that they had during certain periods of my life.

No particular order but they are all my favs.

Pancho & Lefty-Willie and Merle

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvdmxszsDM8

Astro Zombies-The Misfits

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9L1CtXtB4Yc

Corpus Christi Bay-Robert Earl Keen

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jngkzO34x5s

Sistinas-Danzig

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntTV-KjQ0Po

I've had Choices-George Jones

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1BTbSsFmZ4

Sweet Child O' Mine-Guns n Roses

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-AYAv0IoWI

Don't Close Your eyes-Keith Whitley

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jUICUbKZoI

Heaven-Los Lonely Boys

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jUICUbKZoI

Rooster-Alice in Chains

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gHiR1xeOSs

The Howl-SamHain

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wk7YN-_GDE

I just wanted to let everyone know that it's_all_bad has finally mastered being in three realities at once and has retired to some tropical island. He will still exist here as Astralzombie with the same lame humor and his sincerest perspective that is constantly evolving.

And for the record, it is weird talking about one's self in both the first and third person so maybe "mastered" is a bit of an overstatement.

[can]

I'm glad that you got to have the experience and suffered no lasting ill effects.

It's my personal belief that "hallucinogens" only remove the veil that our brains serve to keep us safely focused on this physical reality while we are interfaced for it. The brain is just a computer that runs many programs simultaneously and like anything that can be programmed, it can be deprogrammed or prompted to run another program. Meditation and lots of self reflection are one way to do this and hallucinogens are another.

One way compliments the systems that are running while the other can cause a crash.

It takes hard work to reprogram our brains that have been systematically programmed since our birth though culture, misinterpreted experiences, and intentional disinformation but the payoff is a computer that runs much smoother and has less error messages. Keep in mind that less does not mean infrequent, it just means less.

Szaxx you are a great father. You're not by any chance looking to adopt any adults from America with wayward views, are ya ol' chap?

Szaxx - Thats how slow it actually is when we're practicing/doing AP? Thats interesting, certainly did not feel like 46, felt like the 90 bit  tongue

Keep in mind that there have only been a few medical studies conducted on OOBErs that I am aware of so the data is really inconclusive but what isn't these days.

Many people attribute the rapid heartbeat sensations to just another sign of their astral or etheric body separating from their physical.

I do not personally subscribe to the belief that I am separating anything from my body. I view it more as changing my focus and becoming connected to a higher consciousness system. I know that I am mutilating someones work when I claim that but I really don't know how to state it any clearer or differently.

I still have the occasional OOBE where it seems to be perfectly clear that I am in fact leaving my physical body but I see that more as just an ignorant mind that has to try and make some sort of sense of everything so I am interpreting it as such.

It has taken me many years of experience to see it like that and there are many that have far greater experience and knowledge than I and still view it as an actual separation. In the end, it really makes no difference other than for academic purposes.

[some]

I want to believe that my interest in conspiracy theories is merely for entertainment purposes but the problem is that some of them seemingly make much more sense and are far less complex than the "official" accounts. I don't go looking for them nor do I usually come up with my own but in this day and age, there will always be a conspiracy theory for everything.

Now I know that some of them are so far out there that only a die-hard can believe them but one rotten apple doesn't necessarily spoil the whole bunch. It just means that some poor guy will be spitting out the bite of his apple unless, of course, he's John Lear.

Mr. Lear, IMO, knows a lot and tells a lot, but some of his stuff is so far out there that I can't help but believe him to be a disinformer.

So if you're like me and believe that there is a lot of truth to governmental conspiracies, both foreign and domestic, what can one really do about it? Well, with their concentrated powers and unbelievable technical capabilities, the answer is not much.

Sure, you can lose all your credibility in your respective fields and cry foul at every turn just to inform the masses but in reality, you are only ostracizing yourself just to be entertainment for poor schmucks like myself. The really "good" ones can even make a handsome living off of it but the only real difference they can ever make is a personal choice when the shizznit hits the fan. In other words, take "the mark", or die in protest. If your lucky, you will become a martyr to a few who will most likely not follow your example when their time comes and will accept "the mark". But hey, that refusal to bow down to which you morally oppose may pay off in spades in the hereafter. Then again, it may make no difference at all to the worms if that's all there truly is.

My use of "the mark" is just a metaphor for what will be the supposed endgame of the malignant powers that be.

I was actually deleted the post because there was no relevance.. Not that it made any difference, but to solve the mystery.

Dave

Ahh Shuckkks! I was hoping for an explanation (or another amusing follow up anyhow).

Just for the NSA record, I do not know this "Beedeekin" that you guys speak of.

We're all dying aren't we?  Those of us that know of the second state of existence.  Books have been written with no true acknowledgement. Funny how this life is, and sad.  This forum accomplishes nothing then.  Stupid people, SPEAK UP!!!

Welcome to the Pulse Sam. I think your well on your way and will be reporting success soon.

You may also be surprised to know that people have been monitored while they feel the sensations of a rapid heart beat and in actuality, their heartbeats have slowed.

I'm glad to hear the joyous outcome!

Here, in the US, about 10% are turned away with the diagnosis as constipation.

When it's really the Dr's who are usually full of manure.

[I am in no way advocating any type of violence against anyone or any institution. I feel that it would be a waste of lives and resources and would only serve to hasten the legislation that is already being sought to grant the feds more dictatorial powers.]

When there is nothing but a few articles and some public acknowledgement of dissent about the Us gov violating one of the most important ideological foundations of the Constitution, I can only come away with the conclusion that we have already lost our way and our country.

100 years ago the people would have stormed Congress and forcibly removed the traitors from office. But that type of thinking has been countered as well so anyone who thinks like that nowadays is a whacko conspiracy theorist.

I don't wear a foil hat but I don't laugh at those who do either. Nothing short of an armed revolution can restore this country but I am not an advocate of that since it would only fail. Elections have become a farce as we only have an illusion of choice.

With all the monitoring happening these days, I feel compelled to state a disclaimer: I am in no way advocating any type of violence against anyone or any institution. I feel that it would be a waste of lives and resources and would only serve to hasten the legislation that is already being sought to grant the feds more dictatorial powers.

Forgive me for pointing out something that is so obvious but I do have a point that I want to get across.

We are a very diverse forum. We have members from many different nationalities and thus we have naturally approached AP from the standpoint of our different cultures.

So after having read our many posts, most of you should be able to get a good feel as to who is most compatible with your ideological approach.

It might be a good idea to PM these members that seem to be compatible with your own ideals and see if maybe some one on one mentoring can help you out. It's worth a shot in my book and and a damn good one if you ask me.

It's just that I'm starting to see some negative posts in relations to thr original poster not seeing any progress and I think this may be a good remedy,

Just my two cents but something worth considering it,

The wording in Randi's contracts are such that you basically have to admit to being either a fraud or a quack. If you don't mind admitting to being a whacko then by all means apply. The applicants that do make it through his strenuous screening process are the ones that say they can make an animal defecate through brainwaves and other sill stuff.

We have accepted certain labels and we know that there are some qualities that many of us share in our dreams but we by no means understand them or even know why we have them. At least not from a universal scientific standpoint.

I think David and Adrian already had the idea about working closely with students to teach them how to AP. It's called the Astral Academy.

[HERD]

This guy was featured on the History channel's Stan Lee Superhumans show.

He was able to us "chi" and put any animal to sleep. On the show he, demonstrated this twice using a HERD of buffalo and also with llamas.

It's incredible so check it out.

This link isn't English but you can read the article and know what's happening on the clip.

He claims that he got the power one night when he woke up and was experiencing some extreme vibration sensations. Hmmm? You know, that sounds familiar.

http://creative.sulekha.com/famous-japanese-chi-master-puts-animals-to-sleep_601130_blog