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#426
Welcome to Metaphysics! / Re: The data layer
October 13, 2009, 21:22:48
I only learned a little about them, but they were pretty interesting. All of this happened while my consciousness was projected.

Their building - and this will sound odd - was setup somewhere in Earth's future. They're somewhat independent of time. It was located in a big forest, and looked like either a small school or a big house, with ordinary wooden steps in the front, and a dirt road outside. The leader (a mostly-human looking guy except for his bigger cranium and inhumanly slim figure), was able to cross the time stream and I think he had lived in several eras of human history. Apparently he setup this building in Earth's future because that was a convenient time period to put it in.

One of his followers - a human - had been annoying me, and I followed that guy to the headquarters. There I met the leader (I don't remember what I said) and he allowed me inside because I had some interest in him. Just meeting another humanoid was fascinating. Inside, his building was a big library. We walked along the book shelves and he was talking about his thoughts and plans. There was some kind of conflict between his organization and another. I can't remember the details at all (maybe if I go into a trance I'll remember), but he talked in this very ambitious tone as though he needed me to take his side, trying to convince that there is some kind of danger. This annoyed me because he didn't leave anything to my discretion - he just talked like I have to hate his enemies as much as he does.

Back outside, he handed me a book and seemed more impatient with me. This was the strange part. While I looked at the book's cover, the guy leaned very close to my ear and said "Sometimes, in order for a cause to succeed, people need to be killed."

That's a concept I understand, but it seems this guy was as dangerous as his enemies. I had no clue how to respond.

He started walking back up the stairs. I said it was nice to have met another humanoid, but he just went inside. I opened the book he gave me and was rather surprised. It was full of ancient drawings (like cave-man drawings), page after page - I imagine he collected these from different time periods. Most were bland, and I had no clue why this book would interest me, but I flipped through it anyway.

I came upon this page that spooked me for some reason. There was a figure that looked particularly foreboding, very similar to the paintings from 'The Great Gallery' of Horseshoe Canyon http://4.bp.blogspot.com/__jN4a5X8PZw/RxZ1ekb5fbI/AAAAAAAAB9E/CflIsdCJv9o/s1600-h/H27.JPG http://2.bp.blogspot.com/__jN4a5X8PZw/RxZ2EEb5fiI/AAAAAAAAB98/u4i3n_Rujws/s1600-h/H13.JPG http://windsourceii.blogspot.com/2007_10_01_archive.html - it was dark with sprawled hair, and had small symbols in it. The symbols looked a bit like three eyes in random spots of his head, but they were also a bit like flying saucers. I didn't understand it but I think maybe this was an ancient drawing of the entity this organization was fighting.
#427
Welcome to Metaphysics! / Re: The data layer
October 12, 2009, 22:58:41
Personally, I have no clue who's saying what when I use telepathy, heh. I can only make assumptions based on the answer I get. A lot of times it's a huge rush of information that's seen, felt, heard and understood in a very short spurt. For example it can take 5 seconds to receive a burst of thoughts I would spend 10 paragraphs describing later.

I think it happens to everyone now and then, when you're falling asleep. It's just that your mind - while in a trance - takes all the information matter-of-factly and doesn't consider the significance until you wake up and think about it.
#428
Welcome to Metaphysics! / Re: The data layer
October 12, 2009, 22:33:12
QuoteBut wouldn't it be easier to sit down and converse with them?  Reason with them at least a little or agree to disagree on some points?  It just seems that if these races posses the physic ability/technology they do that we would benefit so much more as a whole by working together rather than fighting.  Then again, this "peace" thing may have already been tried, I don't really know  cheesy
It can happen, yeah, depending on which individual you're talking to. I'm just saying they tend to be good fighters overall - not necessarily irrational

QuoteCan you like, establish a telepathic link with whoever you want, or it's only workable when an alien more geared to telepathy does it to you?
There's a bunch of factors I'm still trying to figure out. I'm still a clumsy psychic, so all I can do is go into a trance, wait till the moment is right, and ask questions hoping someone will hear, and occasionally I get answers. The better psychics out there (Zetans for example) can hear your thoughts plain as day and talk back without a problem. They're the type I rely on for information

Things get a little more complicated when you want to communicate over a huge distance like another star system. There you need systems geared to focus cosmic energy streams and make them accessible. I read that in the days of Atlantis, they used crystals to communicate on a galactic scale, and they had a very intricate understanding of which atomic patterns a crystal needed to have. These days we've lost that information, but with enough skill I think it can be done without tools
#429
Welcome to Metaphysics! / Re: The data layer
October 11, 2009, 01:04:17
Heh, in terms of culture, there are plenty of conflicts between humans and reptilians, so it's good to be cautious at least. But it's not impossible for a human and reptilian to get along.

They tend to be really strong and fairly psychic. If you try to punch one, there's a fair chance your fist will go right through them, and he'll just screw up your mind so you'll drop dead or in a coma. If you punch one who isn't very psychic, they might beat you anyway. BUT I think they can be overcome if they're outnumbered by a mob of people (provided they don't have any major weapons), as it's hard to psychically influence multiple people and fight them at the same time.
#430
They can, yeah, and some might treat you like a trespasser, so a guide is always handy.

I'm not very good at projecting, myself, so perhaps the others on this board could help more
#431
It's just unfamiliar territory, and I hear a lot about astral predators down there, not to mention underground bases whose inhabitants might not want people to find them

But I'm just the cautious type.
#432
Welcome to Metaphysics! / Re: The data layer
October 10, 2009, 17:23:36
I guess we hear about the more mature species because they're the most interesting, but some people on this site have seen the lesser ones. A lot of them are slaves to stronger species, some live like barbarians on other planets. Some humanoids live with conditions and technology just like ours.

Reptilians are certainly different from us - I guess because they descend from a lineage different from mammal types - but I think they're no less civilized than anyone else in this nutty galaxy. I think the worst beings are the self-righteous ones who appear as angels and call themselves the beings of light. We've seen a lot of them in human history, and I've been studying them since before I knew about life outside the planet. They are absolutely horrid in my opinion
#433
Welcome to Metaphysics! / Re: The data layer
October 10, 2009, 10:11:45
Haha, it really is a bit like Men in Black - different species working everywhere, above our heads and beneath our feet. Some walk plainly among us and we can't even tell. So at times, talking with an off-worlder is like talking to someone from another country

But there's a lot of variety - perhaps hundreds of humanoid types we haven't classified. Some, you might get along with and some you might not. Some are more mature and some are obnoxious little imps. I once got into an argument with a guy who talked and looked like a human - but he had a big cranium and a slim, unclothed figure. (not quite as exaggerated as those TV aliens) He was a leader of some organization and his human followers were annoying me, so we had a little chat that was both interesting and annoying. His organization was crossing time periods in order to ward off an unsaid force that has been influencing humanity since the cave-man days- at least that's what I gathered. He was pushing me to join them but seemed half aware that I disliked him
#434
I've read a lot about hollow planet theories, and they just seem wrong next to seismology data. People have seen wide underground places with an apparent 'star' in the center, but those are just big caverns inside the crust and the stars are artificial. (still an interesting sight, but not a hollow planet)

I think it's possible that the iron core is hollow, as no seismic waves seem to go through it (which is perhaps more indicative of a hollow object than a solid one), and Earth has a constant 'ringing' coming from somewhere. I imagine the only entrance would have to be a vortex

Heck, maybe it would be fun to astral project down there. Dangerous, though. You might want a subterranean guide to go along, and one that you trust
#435
Welcome to Metaphysics! / Re: The data layer
October 09, 2009, 07:31:44
Quote from: Dusty2010 on October 08, 2009, 23:34:53Reptilians?  Humanoids?  What now?  I'm confused.  I was thinking something along the lines of okay, a telepathic connection to another race...  then wait, a telepathic communication to another race?  Seriously?  I'm not doubting anything - I just didn't know anyone had accomplished such a thing (told you I was new!).  So could anyone hit me up with a PM explaining, oh, I don't know, exactly what these races are or if we've had any physical contact?
You've probably interacted with 'another race' a few times, not knowing it - while you were asleep or in a trance. That's when new areas of the mind become available and you can read data streams, giving you access to a sort of cosmic internet.

In the case of the reptilian I mentioned, it was a physical interview. She was in the same room as the person and she spoke orally (I think it was in French, which annoyed me because the texts were translated, adding a little more confusion to the already complicated subjects she covered). A physical meeting is a bit rare because most humanoids prefer long-distance, telepathic communication for the same reason we here prefer to talk over the internet.
#436
I guess everyone has their own way of feeling safe. I for one prefer readiness
#437
That Y2K thing sure makes a lot of people feel safe
#438
Welcome to Astral Chat! / Re: Psychic computer
October 05, 2009, 23:25:17
I'm glad you have something to be proud of but I'm a programmer too, and I'm not talking about human computers here. They have almost no application in etherial systems.

Now, think beyond cold hard computers for a moment. In real life, you can 'create' a tree by planting a seed. You don't have to create every cell from scratch, or even understand its biological structure. Instead you just take advantage of natural systems that are already in place, and plant seeds to your liking.

Similarly, when you create a mind from the universe's data (etherical) layer, the intelligence is mostly provided. I don't want to speculate too much on how this is done because I haven't studied it enough, but it is very different from our computers
#439
Welcome to Astral Chat! / Re: Psychic computer
October 05, 2009, 21:13:59
Quote from: kurtykurt42 on October 05, 2009, 13:47:14
Artificial intelligent beings rely on software programming to determine how they think, act, and respond. Software doesn't exist anywhere in the physical universe except for in the minds of the creator, so therefore it is created from scratch. Once the code is put onto a physical media such as a cd or hard drive the software can be used to control the hardware, without the physical media the software doesn't exist.
All I can say is that's simply wrong, for all the reasons I mentioned in the other post
#440
Welcome to Astral Chat! / Re: Psychic computer
October 05, 2009, 13:15:49
Actually the artificial minds I'm talking about are capable of all the things we are, and probably more.

The reason it works - if my studies prove anything - is because everything already has some intelligence in it. The walls around you have a memory and the ability to think - albeit very minor - because everything around us is created by a deeper system of data. Your mind is only smarter than the wall because it's geared more for processing.

So they're not creating intelligence from scratch - they're just improving the data systems of the environment, making it more intelligent than before.
#441
"I've always been captivated by space and everything related to it, and funnily enough: it seems that, people who are of Rh. Negative blood are Alien Hybrids."

Oho, it seems I'm preaching to the choir here. Very interesting note about blood types.

I've always had that same yearning to go to space, strangely, as though I belong there. I always look at NASA's pictures of planets and feel like I've already been there, and feel like the picture doesn't nearly do it justice

I wonder how many people are like that. I have no genetic quirks and I'm a rather incompetent psychic, but I feel like I knew the cosmos front and back before I ever looked at an astronomy book.

Anyway, the whole takeover thing -
Terraforming can be done, yeah, but reptilians mostly enjoy the sun and atmosphere of Earth, which is hard to find elsewhere. I imagine they're also territorial and just find it insulting that we're on this planet
#442
Yeah, plus it's ridiculous to classify information about governments as conspiracies and conspiracy theories
#443
"So, why, would, the 7(?) Alien races I hear about so much, battling for Planet Earth? I'm Human and I don't really care if this planet burns or lives and you're telling me that out there, there are Alien Species willing to spend their time and resources for a backwater planet lost in the middle of nowhere? Or, are you going to tell me: we're in the middle of a huge space lane?"

Heh. More than 7. Lots more than 7, and they aren't organized by race so much as agenda - most of these groups have humans and several other types involved. If you're asking 'why would they want Earth?' in the sense that it's illogical to want this planet, that's a null point because they definitely do, each for their own reasons.

Territory, for one - everyone wants to claim property before their enemies do. Many have various ways they'd like to exploit humanity and the planet (some think we would make good slaves). In fact most of our current establishment is run by interstellar factions and is already there to exploit us. They don't want to lose control

Reptilians are native to the planet and seem more comfortable here than anywhere else, but humans and reptilians cannot currently get along so they're ready to wipe us out and take back control. Other factions just want to wipe the planet clean and start their own life systems from scratch. Some just want to knock down the human race because our problems have spun so far out of control that it's affecting everyone

Earth is a pretty advanced planet, with a lot of systems in place that make it a desirable habitat. Have a look at the other planets we know about - this is a very nice place to live, relatively.
#444
Welcome to Astral Chat! / Re: Psychic computer
October 04, 2009, 15:31:23
Yeah, everyone has their own style, although it seems impractical to send out crafts to trillions of stars when you could setup processors to keep an eye on them remotely. But then, there might be limits to a civilization's remote viewing. I guess it's hard for us to judge
#445
actually the organizations that rule our planet rule many others as well, and we are considered relatively free in this galaxy
#446
Welcome to Astral Chat! / Re: Psychic computer
October 04, 2009, 02:17:51
You don't actually need a person there. It's a pretty strange concept, but they really do create an etherical mind that works the same way our minds do, and it can be put anywhere in physical space as long as the environment is suitable. This way, new data that's seen or thought up by an individual person can be relayed to the central mind for consideration, so they can have questions answered easily.

Some civilizations have perfected this to the point that they've turned their entire planet into an intelligent system. They can tell a rock to move, and it will. (some have plans to do this with Earth)

For data about other planets, the smarter ones will again use etherical systems instead of hard matter like our satellites. They'll direct data streams and setup vortexes so they can mentally tune into the star/planet at will, much like remote viewing. The only time hard crafts and humanoids are necessary is for traveling to places that lack these data systems - mostly, primitive planets.
#447
Welcome to Astral Chat! / Re: Psychic computer
October 03, 2009, 14:27:25
As a matter of fact, psychic civilizations do exactly that when they create a 'central mind' (you'll hear Zetans talk about it a lot). This is perhaps a lot easier than creating a computer out of heavy matter. Your mind and genetics are actually built on this level

I'm not entirely sure how it's done, but I think it involves gearing your environment to make the energy flow a lot better, similar to what's done in feng shui. The Giza pyramids were designed this way by aligning with stars and equinoxes, using unprocessed materials like granite; the stone circles of Europe such as Stonehenge were also made for this purpose. Improving energy flows and energy concentrations will naturally create data systems, so the environment itself becomes intelligent.
#448
Actually a spirit can still die. Then you're just dead.
But it would be nice having a craft with a navigation system. I actually got lost in a cloud of stars when I was skimming the Milky Way that time

I'm pretty sure, when the smarter humanoids want to go somewhere, they'll just do it astrally and avoid the hassle of flying several light-years, which can take a very long time in some crafts and pose a lot of dangers. It seems like physical crafts are used sparingly
#449
I'm wondering what kind of answer Psychic19 wants to hear so badly
#450
Oho, I once went to a far corner of this galaxy, 20 million or so years into the past, all in one night. Boy was I confused during breakfast.

But to physically go there? I'd go wherever I've heard there's activity. All over the solar system, then Sirius, then the Pleiades system, and continue outward.

Eventually I'll come back home and show off my new craft. Maybe fly over my neighbor's house and blast his dog