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I've never been much of one for traveling without a destination in mind.  As a result, I do astral travel when it's necessary--not just to go gallavanting around exploring.  Since I don't usually "see" energy, and I'm not much for remote viewing, there'd be very little point in going offplanet.  I've never even tried.

I go straight to where I intend to go, and do what I went there to do, then reel in the projection and go back to dealing with my more immediate surroundings.  I don't quite understand people who spend lots of time traveling astrally.....but then, I don't understand people who watch television all the time, either.


--Winged Wolf
"I will stare at the sun until its light doesn't blind me, and I will walk into the fire, 'til its heat doesn't burn me, and I will feed the fire...."

Ok, there's no devil.  I have no religion, so I'll agree with that one.
Demons, however, do exist.  I don't believe they are "evil"....from what I have seen, they are brutal, dangerous, and ruthless, and their aims are often at conflict with our well-being.  But I've also heard of them showing emotions such as sympathy.   *shrug*

In any case, the whole high=good low=bad thing, in terms of frequency (vibration is really not the proper term to apply to it), shows no signs of having any foundation in reality.  Frequency has nothing to do with how nice or nasty an entity is, in any of my experiences.  I've met people with higher and lower frequencies as well, and their personalities did not match this simplistic view, either.
This came about because, of course, the lowest frequency of energy is MATTER.  And matter, in so many religions, is bad/unenlightened/primitive.

It's just a religious view.  If you BELIEVE this, your beliefs will color your perceptions.  If you keep an open mind, you'll find that the reality doesn't match that pattern at all.



--Winged Wolf
"I will stare at the sun until its light doesn't blind me, and I will walk into the fire, 'til its heat doesn't burn me, and I will feed the fire...."

Well, hey...if anyone here ever finds out just how one could physically shapeshift, please do let me know--I promise to eat only deer, or maybe cows.

You know, with such a huge proportion of the were community in search of the elusive p-shift (physical shift), you'd think someone would have mentioned this whole dark ritual thing....but no one has.

Not even the alleged p-shifters.  Most consider shifting to be a benevolent spiritual sort of thing.
How do Native American folks accomplish it?  That's where you hear most of the stories of physical shifting, on this continent (USA).
They're certainly not doing it via demonic possession.

No, I don't think evil maneating p-shifting werewolves are real.  I don't think demons physically manifest either--I think they can make it seem like they do, but I don't think they can actually become matter.


--Winged Wolf
"I will stare at the sun until its light doesn't blind me, and I will walk into the fire, 'til its heat doesn't burn me, and I will feed the fire...."

When you bombard a demon with energy, you're attempting to break its PATTERN.  The type of energy isn't nearly so important as the way it is arranged--it is the pattern that makes it a demon in the first place--the pattern that gives it shape, mobility, intelligence, memory....everything.  Without the pattern, it's not a demon--it's just a bunch of energy.  And it's the pattern--the frequency and arrangement of the energy you send--that makes it an effective pattern-breaker.  Send unpatterned energy at it, and unless you send a LOT of it, REALLY fast (you could cause damage by overloading its energy-distributing patterns), all you're doing is giving it breakfast.

If the demon were actually antimatter, and you bombarded it with its opposite particle, you would destroy the demon.....and a whole lot more.  You'd cause a massive explosion.  Even a single matter/antimatter collision would destroy the demon, and most probably kill the person it was possessing as well...actually, that's a virtual certainty.  I'm not sure of the precise amount of power released by such a collision, but I do know it's massive--beyond splitting an atom.
This is not something a demon could walk away from--or that you could walk away from, for that matter.

Oh, by the way, most of the demons I've seen weren't possessing anyone at the time.


--Winged Wolf
"I will stare at the sun until its light doesn't blind me, and I will walk into the fire, 'til its heat doesn't burn me, and I will feed the fire...."

I think you might find that some species are closer to us on the spiral than you realize--chimpanzees, for example, have all the mental capabilities of a 5 year old, with very few exceptions.  They CAN moralize.

In any case, that's a good point.  Our mental capabilities may have nothing to do with our souls' capacities for such.  I don't think animal souls are really any different from human souls.  (Past life memories of BEING a non-human certainly contribute to this opinion).


--Winged Wolf
"I will stare at the sun until its light doesn't blind me, and I will walk into the fire, 'til its heat doesn't burn me, and I will feed the fire...."

I had to go away and do some research before I could be sure I could answer this one intelligibly.

First, it needs to be clear what antimatter is, and why it behaves the way it does.

The easiest example to use is the electron.  An electron is a base particle, meaning that, to date, we haven't found any evidence that it is made up of smaller particles.  (Protons and neutrons are both made up of quarks).

An electron has a negative charge.  Now, a particle which is in all respects identical to an electron, but has a positive charge, is called a positron.  A positron is antimatter.  When an electron and positron come into contact with one another--which they are prone to do, because opposite charges attract--they mutually annihilate--they destroy one another.

We HAVE discovered, and briefly contained, antimatter particles.  We know now that they do exist.  They are difficult to maintain, because you must keep them completely confined, away from their counterpart particles.

This is the important part--a positron will NOT annihilate a proton, or a neutron, or a charm quark, or whatnot--it will ONLY annihilate an electron.

If demons were made up of antimatter, then they would be so very, very easy to destroy....you need only determine what type of energy they are made up, and bombard them with its counterpart (which should be plentiful here).  The human body is not much of a barrier to psychic energy.  In fact, very little matter is.  You can drive a psi beam completely through this planet.

There is no logical reason why a demon, if it were made of antimatter, should be protected from annihilation by possessing a human.

Next, on to "dimensions", and quantum realities.
For a good overview on dimensions, I recommend the book, "Flatland".
Any being which exists in 4 dimensions is going to INCLUDE this dimension in its reality.  It is not going to be apart from it--our universe would be part of its universe.  But such a being would be so phenomenally more complex than we are, that it would be highly unlikely to even perceive us as living things.  We, on the other hand, would be able to perceive it, should it touch our space.  (3 dimensions=space...not a plane, a plane is 2 dimensions).  It would not appear in its entirety, but it would appear--just as if you put your finger through a 2 dimensional plane, anything there would perceive it as a roundish thing.  It would not appear to be what it is, and it would most likely be unrecognizeable.
However, just as we couldn't hope to effectively communicate with 2-dimensional beings, a 4 dimensional being couldn't hope to effectively communicate with us.  It would probably have trouble perceiving us--just as we would have trouble perceiving a 2-dimensional being.  Our three-dimensional light particles would not bounce off of a 2-dimensional plane.  Do you see?  2 dimensions really ARE imperceptable to us.  We would never know if 2-dimensional beings exist.

Just as a 4 dimensional being could not know that we exist...let alone drop in for a visit and communicate with us.

Now, quantum realities, often confused for dimensions, are different.
In quantum physics, the cat is both alive and dead--that is to say, when a choice is present, reality splits--in one reality it goes one way, in another it goes another way, ad infinitum.
So nearly anything is possible, somewhere in the Multiverse.  Each Universe is slightly different from the other.  As time passes, those differences grow and grow.  Therefore, there could be a universe where the dominant Earth species are intelligent dragons...or demons, or angels.  But these would be in 3 dimensions, if they split from our Universe--all the statements about dimensions still apply.

This is all physics....not merely my opinion, and there's nothing I can do about it.



--Winged Wolf
"I will stare at the sun until its light doesn't blind me, and I will walk into the fire, 'til its heat doesn't burn me, and I will feed the fire...."

First, I simply don't think a demon has the right kind of ability to make a person physically change in that fashion--not to that degree.
Second, if it did, a pentagram would be a terrible choice of sigil.  A point-down pentagram is not like an upside-down cross or something.  It's not a demonic symbol.  In fact, 2nd degree Gardnerian Wicca sometimes use it.  It merely signifies (in SOME traditions) dominance of the flesh over the intellect/emotion/spirit etc.
A point up pentagram signifies (again, in SOME traditions) dominance of spirit, but it is primarily a protective symbol.  The first is inappropriate, the second is more suited to warding OFF a demon.
This is more like something a kiddie playing at being a devil worshipper would use--not a real one.  Plus, it was created in fiction.  Someone heard about the "mark of the werewolf", and what did they come up with?  They decided that the legendary (undescribed) mark must OBVIOUSLY be that old occult standby, the pentagram.

The amount of sheer power and knowledge required to achieve something like physical transformation, however it might be done, pretty much precludes a kiddy who's seen too many horror films.  If the guy was going to use a sigil that way, it'd be one a LOT more powerful, obscure, and above all specific, than a pentagram.
This guy being a mentally twisted devil-worshipper wannabe, that I can see.  A real shapeshifting werewolf?  No way.
Just MO.

The "were coyotes"....could they be psi wolves?  (http://www.angelfire.com/realm2/Parazoology/psiwolf.html)
I'd buy powerful psychokinetic spirit entities that LOOK like werewolves LONG before I'd buy actual humans shapeshifting into animals.


--Winged Wolf
"I will stare at the sun until its light doesn't blind me, and I will walk into the fire, 'til its heat doesn't burn me, and I will feed the fire...."

I don't know...maybe I should have read more carefully.  My definition of a direct attack doesn't quite match that one...that one might be a subcategory of direct attack.  *shrug*

The "other" attacks I've suffered have probably been far more traumatic.

Letsee...the entity which influenced my nervous system and instinctive responses for over 5 years of my life would probably be right up there....though this was not precisely frightening.  After the fact I am left with a profound sense of having been violated, but in reality it was more of a moderate inconvenience in my life, and was interesting enough for me to say that it wasn't completely bad.

I had a sent-dream attack once, too--this was someone who bounced up and down on me or shoved me while I was sleeping, I could feel the energy blows.  As well, I had several very vivid nightmares...however, I'd not had a nightmare in something like 6 years before that, and the ones I had during the attack were actuallly pretty funny after I woke up....(I dreamed my computer had a virus that caused it to play Super Mario Bros...snicker).  This attack also resulted in my first, one and only OOBE.  I "woke" in my dream several times, each time repeating the same actions of going to check my computer.  When I finally woke for real, that's just what I did. I felt slightly pummeled, but aside from that none the worse for wear.  Again, while not pleasant, this was a very interesting experience, and in retrospect I don't really mind having had it.

Possibly the worst attack was also the most fiendishly elaborate.  It began with a powerful overload attack, which came on so strongly and quickly that I could not ground it fully in time.  Then it settled to a vice like grip over my body.  It blocked my ability to concentrate, thus weakening my shields and my ability to ground.  I threw salt around my chair, called my (now ex) husband, and logged on to yell for help.  
Now, the next stage began.  A VERY prominant sigil appeared right in front of my forehead, accompanied by a ferocious headache.  Since the thing seemed to want me to "look" at it, I did my very best not to.  I did sneak a peek at one point, in order to be able to draw it.  (I wonder if I still have that thing somewhere?  Hmmmm...I hope so!)

My ex came home drunk, threw a shield over me, and passed out.  Yay.

Fortunately, I found a friend online.  He investigated, and found that there was some entity partially inside the shield.  It was projecting an impression of helplessness, that it had become caught there accidently, and was trying to get loose.  The obvious solution seemed to be to drop my shields to let it go, but intuition told me otherwise.  Fortunately, it seems.  My friend then turned his attention to the sigil.

As soon as he touched it, the "entity" exploded on him, become a "tar baby"...a sticky, spiny mess that attacked him violently.   This ended the confusion/overload attack for me, but left the sigil behind.  He limped off to try to clean himself up, and I had to wait until the next day to find another friend with enough sheer strength to shatter the sigil.  And a lot of force it took to do so, too.  It was really annoying having that thing hanging there like something that stays right in your peripheral vision, and  moves to match when you try to focus your eyes on it.

I took a lot of energetic damage from that attack, it was a couple of months before I was back to normal.

We guessed that someone, for some reason, had tried to use me as bait.  What we couldn't figure out is who the actual target was supposed to be.  We counterattacked these people sometime later, and they didn't have the pattern of anyone we'd encountered before.  There was a woman with black hair, somewhat curly, and green eyes, who seemed to be the leader of the group that attacked us--and another person with a metal plate in their head.  After we made a few of them cry uncle, they went after the friend of mine who'd triggered the tar baby.  Rescuing him, we trounced them again, and that was the last we ever "heard" from them.
It's still a mystery.

Those are the only attacks I'd suffered that I'd put in the category of 'memorable'.  They all occurred years ago, before I'd reached a reasonable level of training.



--Winged Wolf
"I will stare at the sun until its light doesn't blind me, and I will walk into the fire, 'til its heat doesn't burn me, and I will feed the fire...."

Each page is taking between 30 and 40 seconds to load.  I'm running a 133 Mhz with 26 MB of RAM, and a 56K modem.
That means, for each forum post, it takes a minute and a half (at least) to load it, and go back to the main menu to get to another one.  Add in a reply, and the time is increased to perhaps 3 minutes--just for loading, not including reading and typing.
The forum is very active.  15 posts could easily take an hour to get through.

It all comes down to whether or not you want folks like us to use your site, I guess.  I know that when I create web sites, I do so with the idea of accessability.  If I didn't want people to see it, why make it?  And why bar people who have lower incomes and cannot buy newer computers?
Maybe that's just me.

I appreciate the time you put into it, and the money.  I do the same thing myself, with my sites and the Guild site.  However, I don't tend to agree that the opinions of the users therefore don't matter.  In fact, if I make a change I feel will slow the site down, I ask people if any of them have a problem with it before I make it permanent.

I'm not being ungrateful or demanding that you serve my needs.  You may do whatever you like.  As you pointed out, it's your time and money.
I just thought you should know that some people aren't going to find this easy to use.  I thought the goal of a forum was to facilitate communication in such a way that it could be easily accessed.  The more people who use it, the more successful it is.
Maybe that's just me.



--Winged Wolf
"I will stare at the sun until its light doesn't blind me, and I will walk into the fire, 'til its heat doesn't burn me, and I will feed the fire...."

Nita: I've never encountered anything at all with energy like "antimatter", let alone demons, which aren't that uncommon.  
And with good reason.  Such a being would be unable to interact with normal energy without risk of mutual destruction!

The energies that demons are made up of are not foreign--they exist here abundantly.  They also don't "spin" oddly.  However, you may be right that they and angels each come from alternative realities.  I've often speculated that myself.


--Winged Wolf
"I will stare at the sun until its light doesn't blind me, and I will walk into the fire, 'til its heat doesn't burn me, and I will feed the fire...."

(slightly annoyed)
So, all of us who state we've had NO such experiences as children are wrong?  Don't just blithely ignore us and go on with your theory.  Listen to what people are saying!

Some folks do awaken early in childhood, usually around age 5.  Others do NOT awaken until their teens--as I did.  SOME children are highly psychic.  Others are not.  Yes, in many cases, with psi children it will be partially or even fully blocked by the time they're older.  I'm actually lucky that my abilities awakened later, because I have very little blocking as a result--my formative years may have been spent hearing that these things don't exist, but since I couldn't perceive them anyhow, there was nothing to block.

When you make a theory, you have to look at ALL THE EVIDENCE.  Not just what agrees with you.  I'm far from the only person who's stated they had no psychic awareness as a child.  Don't discount us because thinking all children are psychic is a pretty idea.


--Winged Wolf
"I will stare at the sun until its light doesn't blind me, and I will walk into the fire, 'til its heat doesn't burn me, and I will feed the fire...."

I disagree that Newtonian physics can't be applied to PK, by the way.  I don't see why it couldn't be.
You expend a huge amount of energy to move something, after all.
One interesting incident with PK--my mentor had a student working on moving a water glass (she'd done this before).  It was in a restaurant, and he reached over to get the sugar...thought his arm was high enough, but it wasn't....he put his arm through the beam of energy she was projecting, and was left with a quarter-sized bruise on it.


--Winged Wolf
"I will stare at the sun until its light doesn't blind me, and I will walk into the fire, 'til its heat doesn't burn me, and I will feed the fire...."

Those natural shoulder-blade flares often become wings, too, depending on a person's awareness and self-image and so on.


--Winged Wolf
"I will stare at the sun until its light doesn't blind me, and I will walk into the fire, 'til its heat doesn't burn me, and I will feed the fire...."

Grounding is supposed to balance your energy level with that of the planet.  It's also a way to dump energy you don't want.  Same as electrical grounding.

Using pure psi, there's seldom any need to ground.  If you manage to become overloaded somehow, then you ground the excess.  But in general, you want to carry more energy, not dump it into the ground, and you certainly don't want stuff from the ground in you.


--Winged Wolf
"I will stare at the sun until its light doesn't blind me, and I will walk into the fire, 'til its heat doesn't burn me, and I will feed the fire...."

I, too, disagree with factory farming practices...but as vegetarianism doesn't agree with my body, I eat what I can afford.

When I have land, I fully intend to grow my own meat animals (chickens, perhaps a couple of cows, etc).

Many arguments for vegetarianism cite the smaller amount of land it takes to grow crops in comparison with the amount of land it takes to grow meat animals.  This looks compelling on the surface...but as with many things, there are hidden truths that are never addressed that belie this argument.

I live on the plains....rolling shortgrass prairie, not a tree as far as the eye can see.  It's a harsh place, but it's also a unique ecosystem.  It's an ecosystem that relies on the interaction of plants and animals.
Prairie dogs eat vegetation, leaving behind nutrient rich plants that they don't favor, and fertilizing the land with their droppings.  Bison eat the nutrient rich plants, and convert them into more fertilizer.  Various predators feed on the bison and prairie dogs.  This is a simplified version of what goes on, but it addresses the most important elements of the prairie ecosystem--the grasses and forbs, and the prairie dogs and bison and their predators.
Take out one of the keystones, and the prairie DIES.  Nutrients are no longer recycled, the soil fertility drops, the grasses become more sparse, humus level drops and moisture can no longer be retained, and then you have a DESERT.
You want to grow CROPS on this?  Then you've destroyed the ecosystem.  It's dead and gone.
But what if you put cattle on it?  Bison are few....and bison predators fewer still.  There ARE no more prairie wolves...we killed them all.
Put cattle on the land, then eat the cattle.  You actually MAINTAIN the prairie ecosystem, and you eat.  You can also eat bison, and many people do--quite tasty, and even better for the environment.
There is no agriculture less disruptive to a shortgrass prairie than ranching bison properly.  Without wolves to prey on them, bison might well outstrip the land's capacity to carry them, given time and left alone there.  Without bison, or some hooved animal like them, the prairie dies.
So, we prey on the bison, and the cycle is maintained.

This goes far, FAR beyond such a simple equation as the amount of land or material used to produce food.  This is about preserving the natural balance of ecosystems.  You CANNOT do that without animals.  And to exclude humans from that part of the food chain is great waste.  In many cases, we would have to kill animals and leave them, simply to prevent overgrazing, because we've killed off the predators that once helped keep them in check.  That would be a true insanity.

Personally, I'm into permaculture.  Permaculture is utilizing the land in a balanced fashion, in a completely sustainable fashion.  By raising plants and animals together, using their inputs and outputs to compliment one another, you create a situation where soil fertility increases and increases every year, yields increase and increase every year, wildlife is still able to thrive, because your cattle will graze in pastures that are friendly to them, your plants are healthy, your animals are healthy, and above all, you are healthy.
Cattle eat the grass down, and deposit fertilizer.  Then you move the cows, and bring in the chickens.
Chickens eat weed seeds and plants, scratch up the soil, and deposit fertilizer.  They stir up and scatter the cow droppings to even out the nutrient deposit.  Throw some hay over that, and move the chickens.
Next year, plant your crops there.  They will grow better than you can imagine.  When they're done, move the cows in to clean up the leftovers....then follow with the chickens.
Lather, rinse, repeat.
You can eat the cows and get milk from them, you can eat the chickens and their eggs, and you can feed both from crops you grew on the land they fertilized, and they'll need far less of that than a factory-farmed animal because they'll mostly graze (the chickens need more grain, but convert it better anyhow.  Cows actually need NO grain, but may need hay in the winter).  You can feed yourself veggies from there as well, because every year your soil fertility increases, until it's at the absolute maximum possible.  (And believe me, "modern" agriculture can't even come close to those kinds of yields).  And where does it all come from?  The sun.  That's how nature intended it to be, IMO.

I also disagree with the need for centralized abbatoirs.  Compost the byproducts of slaughter, and put them back on the land, instead.  They're good for the soil.  (Plus, they're inhumane...animals are seriously terrified by being transported to such places).  Disease?  Disease happens when you put too much of something in one place.  Overcrowding, stress, poor diet....overloaded immune systems.  That's what causes disease.  Fresh air, clean water and healthy food....those prevent disease.  Beneficial microbes in abudance prevent harmful ones from gaining a foothold.  
This is all well-proven.
Like eggs?  Raise a few hens in your backyard, and move their pen over your garden plots every day (chicken tractor).  Alternate beds every year--chickens on one section, crops on the other, then switch.  MUCH better than it would be without the chickens.  Plants and animals need one another.
We cut ourselves out of the food chain, but worse than that, we cut ourselves out of the nutrient cycle.  We take from the land and don't give it back what it needs.  Ok, there are arguments against using HUMAN waste to fertilize crops....but if we can get an animal/plant cycle going well, the little taken out by that ommission won't matter.  That cycle isn't just self-perpetuating, it increases over time--higher yields, richer soil, healthier animals that produce more, and on and on.

And that's why the strictly vegan view of growing food just doesn't work.




--Winged Wolf
"I will stare at the sun until its light doesn't blind me, and I will walk into the fire, 'til its heat doesn't burn me, and I will feed the fire...."

Some people have a larger micro-focus point than others to start off with.  If you simply can't focus smaller....don't sweat it enormously.  Just work as small as you can, and keep at it.  Over time, your micro-focus may shrink.
(Macro-focus would be how large an area you can focus on at one time).
Don't let it be a hanging point for you, though---it's nice to have a smaller focus area than that, but not so crucial that you have to get it before you work on the rest.


--Winged Wolf
"I will stare at the sun until its light doesn't blind me, and I will walk into the fire, 'til its heat doesn't burn me, and I will feed the fire...."

It's all theory.
I can only go by what I observe, and compare it to the observations of those around me.  In cases where one person seems to be observing MORE...I tend to go with that.  I can detect the difference between different types of energy.  It's quite apparent to me.  So assuming it's all the same would be contrary to my own perceptions!

My experience...it's possible to take in and store oustide energies, and this does create a feeling of jitteriness or increased energy.  However, it's illusory, and long-term holding that energy usually increases a person's overall stamina and natural, usuable energy levels.  This is why so many magickal systems insist that you end a session by grounding.  Many of them even warn of the negative effects of retaining, for example, earth energy.
I think a lot of old lore on this has been lost recently, like so many other things, diluted and altered by word of mouth and the general disorganization of the newage movement.

For the record, because I've chosen to develop as a pure-psi, like many other psis who choose to do this, I can no longer take in those outside energy types without experiencing massive discomfort.  There's no way I could be doing so without knowing it, to be sure.

Listen to some fast music that you like--your energy level will increase, I guarantee it.  Strong emotions, intellectual exercise--things which increase nervous system activity also increase psi energy levels.  Whether you believe nerves generate the energy or not, the correlation is unmistakeable.  There is a relationship there.

Sick people may make you tired if you've got a loose hold on your energy, and they're absorbing it via a sort of osmosis (things tend to even out when not seperated, see).  Unless they are practicing psychic vampires, I doubt they are actively sucking your energy away.

Sick people might also make you tired because you're tuning in to their nervous system activity, and their sensations seem to be your own.  A sympathy fatigue, as it were.  If your brain chemistry changes to match your mood, whether induced or natural, you'll be genuinely fatigued by it, even though you've lost nothing and aren't sick.  

The solution to both problems is to learn effective shielding....it always comes back to that.



--Winged Wolf
"I will stare at the sun until its light doesn't blind me, and I will walk into the fire, 'til its heat doesn't burn me, and I will feed the fire...."

I believe that deciding whether or not to vaccinate is a truly horrendous decision to force onto a parent.  The risks of vaccines are more than ever apparent....
But the diseases they're designed to help prevent are also apparent.

My son has had one shot--HiB.  His arm reddened and swelled, and he was cranky for several hours.  That's a common and very mild reaction to that particular shot.  I haven't given him any others since then.  Part of this is because until very recently, vaccines which did not contain thimerosol (a mercury derivitive) were not available to parents using Medicaid.

Now, he's over a year old, and I have to decide again what shots to give him....the vaccine are now thimerosol free.  The old ones were phased out....yes, that's right, they did not recall them--they phased them out, using up their stocks of mercury-laden vaccine.

Vaccines can cause brain damage or death.  So can measles.  Tough choice.  The vaccine isn't 100% effective.  The disease doesn't usually cause symptoms so severe.  The vaccine is usually safe.
And who can you trust to provide accurate figures on any of them?  The medical establishment will not count cases that were not officially recognized as being attributed to vaccines, which happens often as Robert pointed out.
But anti-vaccine groups often will attribute far more to vaccines than could rightly be blamed on them.  So neither can be trusted to provide the TRUTH about vaccines.

The truth is going to be, either the vaccine is more dangerous, or the disease is more dangerous.  That has to take into account your chances of contracting the disease at all...and the chance of developing a reaction, plus the rate of the vaccine failing to prevent the disease.  No one has ever done this.  Probably no one can, as not all of the information is available.

I was fully vaccinated as a child, with no ill effects, as was my husband.
When I was a teen, I got a Tetanus booster, and my arm swelled up and I got a high fever.  I was out of school with severe flu-like symptoms and aches and pains for a week.  I've not had any boosters since, naturally enough.
As a parent, this all causes me a huge amount of anxiety.  I'm reluctant to vaccinate at all, even for the most serious diseases.  But what, then, if my son catches one of those diseases?



--Winged Wolf
"I will stare at the sun until its light doesn't blind me, and I will walk into the fire, 'til its heat doesn't burn me, and I will feed the fire...."

Well, being a therianthrope, I naturally can't really accept the notion of evil man-eating werewolves.  I know what _I_ would do if I had that ability, and eating people doesn't figure into it.
There may be something out there that behaves that way, but I do not believe that they are werewolves.

Fenris, the folks who claim to be physical shapeshifters are very quietly mixed into the online were community.  In most cases, people who claim to P-shift openly are likely to get ridicule or be accused of lying or roleplaying.  Most weres don't believe physically shifting is possible.  Auric, astral, mental, shadow, phantom, dream....lots of different types of shifting, but not p-shifting.
You CAN find people who claim to be p-shifters in the were community, but a lot of them are going to be fakes....some would say that all will be.  I personally am not sure.  I don't know if p-shifting is possible or not.  I'd love to think that it is, but I highly doubt it.

As for having to willfully attract "evil" entities in order for them to hurt you....why would that be so?  I can't quite catch the reasoning behind that one.


--Winged Wolf
"I will stare at the sun until its light doesn't blind me, and I will walk into the fire, 'til its heat doesn't burn me, and I will feed the fire...."

I don't know enough about them to say if I've seen one or not.  Any links to sources that give a complete description?
(LOTS of things appear as "shadow people").


--Winged Wolf
"I will stare at the sun until its light doesn't blind me, and I will walk into the fire, 'til its heat doesn't burn me, and I will feed the fire...."

Nope, as a child I was about as psychic as a brick.  I used to happily play on the haunted staircase that neither my mother or grandmother would spend more time on than they had to.  I remember NOTHING in terms of psychic ability or phenomena during my childhood.  My abilities didn't awaken until I hit my early teens.


--Winged Wolf
"I will stare at the sun until its light doesn't blind me, and I will walk into the fire, 'til its heat doesn't burn me, and I will feed the fire...."

From observations--PK requires a LOT of energy, focused in a VERY narrow and specific fashion.  Seems to be associated with the solar plexus nerve cluster.  And it's extremely difficult to learn to control.
I personally would be happy with the method of a person who could achieve PK 1 out of every 5 times, on a consistant basis.  That IS impressive.  People tend to set their sights much too high with this ability.


--Winged Wolf
"I will stare at the sun until its light doesn't blind me, and I will walk into the fire, 'til its heat doesn't burn me, and I will feed the fire...."

Kristen, yes, I would consider the man's attempted actions part of the natural cycle, and then I would shoot him in the head.
Make sense?

I in no way imply that "evil" behavior is acceptable simply because evil is purely subjective.  I'm simply stating that it isn't an objective thing.  It's personal.  It's something each of us decide for ourselves, and something that many of us disagree on--and none of us are right, and none of us are wrong, in that disagreement.  Just because I don't believe that there's some higher standard we're all being compared to doesn't mean I will allow what _I_ consider to be evil to go on unchallenged.  I just realize that when others disagree with what I consider to be evil, they're not actually wrong.


--Winged Wolf
"I will stare at the sun until its light doesn't blind me, and I will walk into the fire, 'til its heat doesn't burn me, and I will feed the fire...."

I think part of it for me is that I AM psi--and I can read plants to some degree.  I know when they are "alarmed" for example, and also when they are suffering.  I can't imagine, therefore, being kingdomist, and pretending that my perceptions mean nothing.  Life feeds on life...consider, at least when you eat an animal, it's dead.  Plants, because they've no central nervous system, are still alive if you eat them raw.  That's an individual philosophical outlook.  I may think that it's the silliest reason possible to be vegetarian because you don't want to kill things, but in the end it doesn't really matter if people choose to see it that way.

Now, I hate to do this, Mobius....but I have to disagree with you.
Humans have eyes in the front of their head because they are primates.  Primates need to judge distances because the vast majority of them are arboreal.  Climbing and jumping through trees requires extremely good depth perception.  We see in brilliant color so that we can better detect ripe fruits among the branches.  
Our nails will never be claws.  Don't wear them down by using them a lot, and they grow out and become unwieldy, then they break.   They're there to support our finger pads, so that we can better climb and grip things.
Human canines are reduced in size.  But teeth have less to do with diet than we originally thought they do.  The gorilla has massive fangs, but it is largely an herbivore, with the exception of a few insects it adds to its diet.  Bears have the teeth of a carnivore, but they are actually omnivorous.  On the other hand, chimps hunt and eat monkeys--they beat them to death with their hands, then share out the meat.  Chimps are our closest relatives.

To determine our natural diet, you really have to study the known fossil record closely, and also take a close look at the tools our ancestors used.  Digestive capabilities can change before dentition and other outward features do.  We now know, from studying coproliths, that neanderthals were true carnivores.  Our own ancestors were, however, not--they were omnivores, as we are.  The tool kit includes things for digging up roots, and things for hunting and skinning prey.  Studying the diet of "primitive" cultures of humans shows this as well--omnivory is the norm.

Not that this makes any difference.  You CAN live a healthy life on a vegan diet, although you need to take some vitamin supplements.  You can also live a healthy life as an omnivore, with no supplements.  Either way is fine, humans are adaptable.

Now, for my own version of spirituality on this--I don't think a person should eat anything they wouldn't be willing to kill themselves.  If you're fine with killing, go ahead and eat it.  I plan on raising my own chickens in a few years, when I have land.  I'm not going to pay someone to do the dirty work for me.
Then again, I also think I'm a wolf, so your mileage may vary.


--Winged Wolf
"I will stare at the sun until its light doesn't blind me, and I will walk into the fire, 'til its heat doesn't burn me, and I will feed the fire...."

In all my observations, I've never noted that people take energy from outside of themselves into their bodies--not unless they MEAN to do so.  And outside energy sources are not the same as the energy that's natural to a person.  In most cases, it's like trying to run the wrong type of current through a wire geared for a different voltage.  People are adaptable--they can adapt to the foreign energy, and they can use it to do work--but they can't fuel their body with it.

Life energy can fuel a body--if you took energy from plants, animals, or other people, that MIGHT (big might) reduce your need for food, and have health benefits.  That, of course, is psychic vampirism.

The energy in NEW appears to be psi energy, which is a byproduct of nervous system activity.  If your nervous system is working, you're generating at least SOME psi.  A certain level of this seems to be healthy, but non-actives generate enough for that.  Energy in addition to that base level is what you use to fuel psychic abilities--you use it to do work.  Yes, it can be used to do healing as well, but not because it is in itself healing--it's the use that heals, the application that's important there.

Again...all the theories on energy notwithstanding, it has not been my OBSERVATION (nor that of anyone else I know) that people naturally (that is to say, not deliberately) take in energy from outside of themselves via any mechanism other than eating food.


--Winged Wolf
"I will stare at the sun until its light doesn't blind me, and I will walk into the fire, 'til its heat doesn't burn me, and I will feed the fire...."