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People don't say that it's different... they just use different metaphors.

The 'paralysis' part isn't actually the most noticeable thing.. it's the sounds and vibrations.

The paralysis is actually put there by the medical institution because those who experience it out of the blue panic and realise they are paralysed.

We don't... because we are 'wanting' it so don't notice the trapped sensation.

So when when I'm vibrating but i can still move my body I'm in "sleep paralysis" ?

So next time I'm vibrating I should just get out of my body and not wait for my body to fall asleep, or is my body already asleep but I can still move it

I was laying in my bed without any pillows (just one pillow under my knees), I relaxed and then I started concentrating on my breathing and was noticing the blackness of my eyelids, I lost concentration a few times but I remained awake, after about 15 minutes I lost concentration again, I was almost dreaming, but then I heard a weird noise, I thought what's that ? where is that noise coming from ? and then I realised, I was snoring, then I stopped snoring and my body started feeling weird, then my legs started vibrating, I tried to relax but I couldn't, my neck was just hurting a lot maybe because I wasn't using a pillow. After a few minutes the vibration went away. I tried again, I think I got a pillow(maybe not)and then I tried to do it again, I got the vibrations but ummm I can't actually remember what happened next  , maybe I fell asleep ? So should I use a pillow ? If I do I might fall asleep but if I don't my neck might hurt. Also how long should i meditate before going to bed to try to AP ? and where should I try to AP on my bed i might fall asleep but on the floor my body might not fall asleep because it uncomfortable so no SP or if I do fall asleep someone might just walk into my room and just say wtf are you doing ? (happened more that once  ) Also when I do get sleep paralysis what is a good way to get out ? Also when I get the vibrations should I try to get out while I'm vibrating or try to move the vibration around my body or just relax ? everyone says something different. Also I don't meditate much but this time I did for about 20 minutes in the evening and I got the vibrations for the first time ever so does meditating really make a big difference ? If so I think I'll start meditating much more often.

I've watched all his videos, he's awesome.

I think I'll meditate before going to bed, then I'll just concentrate on the breath (mainly) then wake up at 4am then put my clothes on, stay up for 5 minutes then lie on top of my bed with the blankets under me with my clothes on, then relax and repeat a word in my head. Good idea ? also what technique do you all use ? I don't know if just repeating a word in my head is an very effective way to AP.

Right now I'm doing this technique where i set an alarm for 4am every night and after a few weeks I should be able to wake up at that time without the alarm clock and just relax, don't move, don't open my eyes and get into sleep paralysis. I'm just doing that but I'm not doing any other technique, this technique might take over a month and i don't know if it will even work for me, i want to have as much chance of APing as possible, and to practice as much as I can. I can't practice during the day so when and how should i practice ?

The technique I use sometimes is just relax and repeat a word in my head or focus on the breath.

You turn into a pink marshmellow with yellow chocolate chips all over it.  

ORLY 

*raises hand*

I KNOW... I just have no way to prove it to you as it's a personal truth.

Ok tell us what happens when we die

The irony is that you (we) don't even have a brain now. 

The problem is that you're thinking that the 'you' that is experiencing this physical reality *IS* what you are.  You are not a human.
You have no brain.
You have no body.
There is no reality.

There is only awareness experiencing itself.  That's what you are... awareness.

But if you have no brain then how did you make this post ? Why is awareness experiencing itself ? What's the point ?

Who cares what happens to your meat popsicle?  It's not like you'll be needing it anymore.   

what happens to YOU no your body ? we don't have our brains any more so how do we think ? do we just merge with out higher self ? or do we get an astral brain and just do the same when we're astral projecting ?

Can't someone just AP and find out ?

I recon that we will all be dead in 600 years when the muslims have their 21st december 2012...

Why ? does the mayan calender end in 600 years ? even if the calender would end that wouldn't mean that we're all going to die, it's like saying the world is going to end on the 31st of december because that's when the calender ends.

He wants to do this in the physical...not astral. BTW how much magick experience have you had?

But that's impossible, he doesn't even know if it has a physical body.

How do you know that this "Vassago" is real ? and why do you think that it would have a physical body ? if that demon is real then why don't you just AP and talk to him ?

"This is something I want to do very consciously."

you can be more conscious while out of body than in the physical.

BTW you can do all the things that vassago can do, in the astral.

Well we didn't die, so no IMO

Sometimes I can Phase in 2 minutes, sometimes it takes an hour. It all depends on your level of relaxation, your mood and how much mental clutter or distractions you are currently experiencing in your physical reality.

How exactly do you phase Lion ?

Actually Justin you are right here. The only time I feel the hypno jerk or deep breath scenario, is when I am so deep that I start to fade into sleep. It immediately brings my mind back to the current task.

Possibly this is a blessing in disguise! 

exactly, it only happens when i loose concentration and start going into a dream, but every time it happens to me it just makes my entire body jump and i have to start again.

Well, it's your own experience... so I really don't know what, exactly, you mean by "everything turns darker".  I can interpret that statement a million different ways and each of those interpretations could not even be close to the concept you're trying to convey with it.  See why this is so hard? 

What I can say is that, through my own interpretation of your experience, it's not what I've ever experienced, nor is it how I would interpret anything that which I've experienced.

You COULD be referring to what some people refer to as a switch from a 2D blackness to a 3D blackness.  It's the sense that the 'dark' that you're seeing takes on a sense of depth to it.

when you close your eyes it's not completely back you can still see something like light but for me it turned completely black, well maybe not completely but it was still darker and i think it  did have some more depth to it, it all happened within a second and i was almost sure that im going to to get SP but instead i just fell asleep.

My husband does not believe in ap.

it's possible to go into peoples dreams while out of body, you should do that and scare him.

The point of the video I linked was the short 1 1/2 minutes of what he was saying.  Not the entire lecture it was regarding.  Although you can find the entire lecture on Tom's youtube channel.  That's besides the point.
Did you listen to WHAT he was saying in that short video?  It's my FAVOURITE video of Tom.

As for the video you linked, thank you.  I am very much of the same opinion as Bedeekin though.
He has a wonderful opinion for why "he is here"... he's more than welcome to have his opinion too.  I just disagree with it.  LoL
And if his other videos are given as colourful subjects as Bedeekin suggests... I shall also pass.

The content of the one video you posted, which I'm watching right this second (), is very much a fear-based video... "Prison planet"?  He's a fearmonger... he's only speaking of negativity... at least in this single video.  From this, I don't really care to watch anything else he puts out.  lol  Not to mention the language he uses in the video... is atrocious.   Sadly.
He doesn't give me the sense or feeling of wanting to help people, such as his stated goal is.  He's just continuing the current line of fear being thrown around these days.

He's not a fear-monger, he does talk about negativity when he has to, but he is definitely not trying to scare you, most of his videos are very positive, it's just his recent videos where he speaks about slightly negative subjects. he's got videos like "Techniques For Ascension - Uplift Your Vibration, Change How You Feel" "How To Feel Better by Releasing Your True Feelings & Freeing Up Your Life Energy" etc. he's got some very interesting videos too, like in one of them he does this guided oobe where he makes this person  AP while still able to talk and he makes them relive their past lives, in one of them she is on this light ship which is helping humans raise their vibrations (we can't see those ships because its on a higher vibration) Rich guided her through the ship and she described how she lives there and what everything looked like her name there was Anusha. Here is the first video in the series http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agHx481UVYw also the freaky like me show is very good (interviews with astral projectors)


Also there is someone called Brady Ackroyd he AP's every single day last month he APed 36 times this is his channel http://www.youtube.com/user/backroyd1981
I think he did some weird effect to his videos (maybe it's just my pc)


This video is bit negative but I think you should still watch it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oN1Q1wQUkoI

When I try to AP at night I lie on my bed with my clothes on and without any blankets on top, I relax and then then repeat a word in my head and also concentrate on my breathing, after about 10 or 20 min my body starts feeling weird and after a couple of minutes everything instantly turns darker even though everything was already black, I think im going to get sleep paralysis soon so i try to relax even more but after about 5 min still nothing happens and i fall asleep then wake up after some time and go to sleep.

So why does everything turn darker ? does it mean im going to get sleep paralysis soon ? if so what do i do ? should i just concentrate on one thing ? anything im doing wrong ? should i do it longer ?


I know practising at night is bad but if i do it during the day i get no results and my cat usually jumps on me for no reason.

One time my goal was to be able to ap once a night.  I can do that now if I do not mess it up. 

That's my goal right now.

When you realise you are falling asleep you wake yourself up and start again. 

how exactly do i wake myself up ? do i have to get up or can i just open my eyes and try it again ?

That's ok... I'm not into the whole reptilian/illuminati thing. I was when I was younger but I just find it all a bit silly. It's not even good science fiction.

Ok but he's got lots of other videos, they're all good, a lot about OBE's. just watch some of his videos about something you find interesting and you'll see that he doesn't talk a load of crap. I've seen almost all of his videos.

Is he not talking a load of crap though?

He sounds a bit ill. Poor guy.

WHAT !? no watch more of his videos he's awesome.

To experience 'this shithole' is why you're here.
Change your perspective, and it's no longer a shithole... it's the most wonderful thing you'll ever experience. 
You can't grow spiritually as long as you continue to view this reality as a shithole.

A perspective of growing spiritually includes that of being Love.
Viewing this reality as you currently do isn't a perspective of Love. 

Watch this and pay close attention to what's being said:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=qOM9LHZhLlA

Ok is there a full video out ? you should watch this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQghRolSABg you should also watch all his videos about reptilians, draconians etc. watch all 367 of his videos if you can.

I do not think you loose concentration.  I think it happens to a lot of people.  I think it is normal that it happens.

but why ? it only happens when trying to AP.