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The nuclear explosion was in reference to real physical nuclear explosion. Most people don't realize that a real physical nuclear explosion extends into the etheric plane and even into the astral plane. What I was saying was that if a nuclear explosion, of course it must be sufficient size, can damage and even destroy the astral body. If the person while out of body lowers their astral vibration low enough so that it is close to the physical plane, and if they are right next to the nuclear explosion in locality then it will hurt the actual astral body

Please site your sources  

On average you could say that the astral body lives about 2 to 3 times longer than the physical body. Yes, the astral body can and does die in most people. When a person reaches a high enough spiritual level then they are called liberated beings. A liberated beings astral may never die if so desired. In fact, a liberated being may even retain their physical body forever. That is called an avatar.

I got an avatar..OMG! it is Han Solo from Star Wars.  I loved his character.  PMonline, I am very sorry to see that you are not a liberated being yet.  However, if you go to google images and download a little picture you too could be an avatar.  Good luck.

Han solo

I just saw something on the Internet that reminded me that OBE's in the future will be available to everyone through electronic means.  Take a look at:

http://www.innerworlds.50megs.com/winshakti/rotating/index.htm

Now, I am not saying this device necessarily works, only that in the future devices like this will make projection as easy as riding a bike.  Instant OBE for as little as $225.  Hell, id buy a device like that.

When this happens, science will really look into this phenomenon (either that or the FDA will ban the machine, creating a black market).  At first science will be clumsy and attribute it to electrical charges, but a short time later the wider reality will be discovered by the mainstream and Mystical notions will go bye bye .

I can just hear the wails of agony coming from the evangelicals lobbying the government to ban the device,  "That's the DEVIL's machine!"

Still it is always Best to know how to do it "manually"

Han

Last weekend, I laid down for a nap as I was very tired and needed to rest. My husband was outside in the backyard doing some fall yard work

Tsk, Tsk.  Poor guy, he was probably hoping this angel would help him with the yard work


Han

ahh....energy work, I love it.  After 3 years of spending 2 hrs daily you may be lucky enough to have a conscious OBE.  

I think energy work is a good to manipulate energy, or chi, such as in sexual Chi Kung.   Dr. lin teaches that a man can have multiple full body orgasms using energy at www.actionlove.com (probably one of the worst put together sites ever).  However, to "OBE" this is like wanting to go from Indianapolis to Chicago and taking the LONG way around the earth.  You'll get there but it will take forever.

Try phasing.  Much, much easier

Han

Capitalism will be turned upside down. The system will be completely out of balance

This is completely retarded.  Capitalism is only the free market.  IF this were to happen it would only permanently alter in what FORM energy is consumed.  OK, so the oil companies would be servery crippled, SO WHAT! All other companies will adapt to the new technology. Was capitalism turned upside down when the cars replaced the horse and buggy.  Goods and services will still be provided, and there will be a market for them, thus capitalism will survive.  Essentially, any form of voluntary exchange is in essence a form of capitalism.


As for the rest of the prediction.. laughable!  Although I would love to see it come about.

Han

I am pretty good at interior design, and have painted more times than I can remember.

Many times it is shadowy during the day because the corner (right angle) is reflecting back the colored light (due to the paint) from the other wall.  This is why lights are usually placed somewhere near a corner (which can hurt more than help if you don't know what you are doing).

At night this can have the opposite effect because any light in the room is bouncing off of the walls and not getting dispersed in the darkness as quickly as say the middle of a wall.  This depends largely on where the light is comming in the room.  Sometimes it enhances the shadows in the corners.  

The heat Haze could be do to stagnate hot air that has risen.  Some houses don't disperse hot and cold air as quickly and efficiently due to the way they are built.

Anyway, best I could come up with without seeing what you are talking about.

Or, It could be the bogeyman, who knows

Han

Its debatable if you are even "out" of your body at all, so I wouldn't worry about it.  Personally I don't believe in negs, and I feel concentrating on this aspect only hinders your progress.  The biggest barrier is the fear barrier.  "Negs", in my (and some others) opinion, are just thought creations in Focus 2 (the place where you dream, subconscious, and imagination are).

Whatever they are, they can't hurt you at all.

Han

Simply amazing!

 Google has got their act together.  Anyone ever look at google maps?  Lets just hope that in the future these maps don't become real time.

Han

I was wrong.  It looks like there is a lot of guided imagery, but gives exercises to located and anchor the click sensation so that you can do this easier the next time.

Holy grail. I doubt it.
 
Han

It is nothing like hemi sync.  I do hemi sync, and basically it is just listening to binurial beats with visualization.  This is learning how to click your amygdala forward (the part of your brain that switches between reptilian brain and frontal lobes) so that you are accessing your frontal lobes.  Most human use to much of their reptilian brain.

For instance, when one is trying to project at night they are mostly in their reptilian brain, then when they reach a deep focus 10 they will click in to a state of total mind clarity.  When you have experience this it is awesome.  Your mind is free of all chatter and ego.  Learning how to access this state for waking consciousness is what this site is teaching.  Also, once in this state AP is easy.  Later in his life Robert Monroe said that he could go from waking consciousness to AP in a matter of seconds.  I believe through practice he was able to click his amygdala forward.

Along the same lines, Frank says that he searches for a special spot in his brain/mind, and when he finds it then AP is almost a given.  I bet you that over the years he has learned to find and click his Amygdala forward to access the states of mind that he projects into.

I ordered a package, so I will give a report after some time testing it out.

Han

I stumbled upon this site today www.neilslade.com and it looks like many of our problems here could be solved.  I have noticed that when I phase that there comes a point of almost Brain silence and I feel like I click into a deep focus 10 state.  From there, it is very easy to Astrally project.  

Just read this site, especially the article on the moons of Jupiter.  When you read this site have AP in mind as only one of the many possibilities this skill could give you.

Any thoughts?

Han Solo

PS.  I will be trying this in the near future and will get back to you on the progress.

Yawn... you know how many centuries christian types have been saying that? For them it's *always* about to be the end of the world. After all the millenium crud I have given up trying to help people see past this obsession, what's the point?

Doug

PS As for the rate of disasters 'increasing', such a statement is highly dubious. These events have always occured around the world. What HAS changed is our ability to report on them and to spot them. Even within the last few decades we have increased our reportage of them; the events themselves have not increased by any great degree. People who say this are basing their statistics on earlier periods, even a few decades ago, when the very statistics themselves were not as accurate as they are now

Couldn't have said it better myself, but wait WAIT 2012 is coming soon.... AHHHH! (runs around as if hair is on fire)

I take your comment with great offense

I sorry YOU feel that way.  You should stop other peoples' opinions effecting your inner state. You are the only one that can control the way you feel.  If you are offended because someone does not agree with YOUR opinions then you will have a long miserable road ahead of you.

I own my opinions but you don't have to,
Han

I mean it's sort of silly to ask such a question in English, since the target audience needed for the answer probably doesn't speak it.

I hope you are joking.  There are tons of people here from all over the world.  

Off the top of my head:
Kazaban is from Portugal
Frank is in France
Coco De mon says he lives in Poland
Andrewthesinger is in Brazil
ETC.

I am sure some people here are bilingual, etc.

Han

Hey-


Just wondering if people researching the Ap phenomenon is more or less extensive in the Western societies compared to Non Western.  For example, are there really active sites like the Astral pulse in Russian, Chinese, Japanese, Spanish, etc?  

Also,  I know that in the Eastern Religions they talk about Ap, but is it being actively researched on the net.

Thanks,
Han

Well, one of the many problems I see with this is living on a star (a big ball of buring gas).

Han

BTW i highly doubt there are any better pictues of these things

I wonder why that is?

that is if these pics are even real

Oh the pictures are real, the Nomes on the other hand.......(use rational thought here)

Han

What do you do with the gem's ? Eat them...?

That is about as good an explanation as any other i have run across

"Worst pictures EVER!"---comic book guy


Han

Thanks for the review, I was hoping they wouldn't screw this movie up.  I used to love these books when I was young.

Han

I think it is best to use the Monroe's model up to focus 10.  Get REALLy intimate with focus 10 (see Major Tom's Permanent Astral Topic post on focus 10).  Then, switch to Franks model of Focus 2, 3, 4.  

It becomes easier that way.

Best of luck,
Han

Amazing post Major Tom!  I can't wait until it is completed in its entirety


Umm...where did it go?  My precognition skills must be getting better Hopefully you will post this in its own thread when you are done.


Han Solo

Has anyone thought to try remote viewing in the FZ state?  It seems like it could be more of a direct connection (deeper level of mind).

Han

Why do you think you're having trouble projecting? Whats scarry you, holding you back? Ya know, I have my moments too and its not easy as 1-2-3 all the time.

the only time i have to work out lately is late at night, so i workout and then go to bed exhausted.  then, i don't want to wake up in the mornings to even try.

Hello everyone-

 I need experienced projectors for an experiment I am conducting, and the more feedback we get the more understanding of projecting we can learn. Anyway, I hate writing so without further ado, here it is:


1.  I would like you to think of a limiting belief, phobia, disorder, or fear that you have and write it down on a piece of paper.  This will be your intent.

2.  When you project I would like you to call out to see a representation of your intent.  For instance lets say that you have never been able to lose weight.  You would project and say something along the lines of "I will see a representation of unhealthy food", or "I will see a representation of over eating"

If the representation is that of an overweight person, direct all your mental energy to shape that person to have the figure you want.  

If you did a fear of spiders then utterly destroy your representation of your fear.  Use your own judgment for the best course of action.  

This may take a couple of projections to "solve"

3.  See if any changes occur in physical reality

4. Post your responses in this thread.

Thank you for any input and energy you can apply to this task.  We often think of projecting as an "ends", but what if it can be used as a means for change.

Han Solo

Voice-

 I know you and I have differing theories on the whole Astral vs. Focus 2 concept, and I respect your opinions and experiences.  However, don't you think this experience of your lends some credence to the fact that you are projecting inside of yourself, and your subconscious mind is altering your reality at the speed of thought.  I mean do you really think that this specific location in the "Astral" has the Karate Kid music as a background?  

For me, If I even think "man that would be cool if..."  it has already happened.    They call this the Alice in Wonderland effect.

No offense, I just want to get your opinions on why the astral is so fluid and manipulable by our thoughts.

If you could do an experiment next time you are in the Astral, and post your results for the community, I would be forever grateful.  I would like you to think of one of your fears or phobias and make it your intent to project and call out "I would like to see a representation of my fear of (blank)"  If something manifest I would like you to utterly destroy it, or somehow remedy the situation.  Then see if this phobia or fear is lessened in physical reality.  This experiment will not prove the "Astral" vs. Focus 2 in any way, I just want to see if projecting could be used as a self help tool.  Ie.  Drug rehab, etc.

The reason I would like you to do this experiment is because i am having trouble projecting lately, and you seem to be having no trouble.  

Thanks,
Han