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#576
This is kind of sad... The media somehow gives soldiers the impression that they have a voice, but in reality, they signed up for it and have to do everything they're told, even if it results in their death -- protestation is not tolerated.

I really wouldn't like to be in their situation, but here's a piece of advice: If you don't want to die for your country regardless of reason, or if you're afraid of getting killed in action, do not join the army.
#577
Welcome to Astral Chat! / Do You..
March 02, 2006, 11:55:48
You believe that it is possible to leave your body and meet dead relatives, but time travel is "too weird?"

I'm not saying we should all believe him instantly, but rather than saying "it's not true" ; get him to prove it. If he can time travel at will, that means he can, for instance, predict what the biggest headline will be next week and come tell us about it.
#578
Wow, that looks very "science-fictiony" and exciting!

Do you have something less distant, like say, the major headlines of next week's papers? I'm sorry for seeming so skeptical, but I want to feel more convinced that you are visiting the "real world."

And so, about these world lines, are you saying the reason you see destruction is because you are unable to prevent this from happening, but someone else might be able to/will prevent it? Does anything ever change if you go back to the same time several times in a row?
#579
Damn it, I was expecting something about flying cars and robots... :(

So, if the time machine is invented 10 years before it happens, how come they don't... go back and prevent it?
#580
I remember watching something about getting in contact with your past lives on TV ; a woman was hypnotized and started describing what she was experiencing as it happened, a recollection of a past life.

She was a jewish girl in a concentration camp, she described how two german soldiers tortured her, then proceeded to rip her fingernails off with a knife so she couldn't scratch them while they raped her. After nearly beating her to death, they threw her into a ditch with thousands of dead bodies...

People tend to focus too much on war as a global phenomenon, the most interesting thing is really the story of individuals...

Of course the rape story was not interesting in an "entertainment" kind of way, it's the "horror of war" aspect that is striking and makes you really think about human nature.
#581
Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Area 51
February 28, 2006, 21:48:18
They might be able to offer you a job though :P
#582
The arm method allows you to cross the line between conscious and unconscious multiple times; with enough practice, you will be able to stay in this "asleep but conscious" state which is where you can start thinking about leaving the body, or having a voluntary lucid dream.
#583
Well, the technique consists in falling "almost asleep" ; that is, staying on the fine line between an awake state and a sleeping state.

When you sleep, you still breathe, even though you are not conscious.

I would recommend doing the exercise from Bob Peterson's book which consists in keeping an arm up so that it is in balance and requires little effort to stay up, and so that if you fall asleep, it will fall on you and wake you up. (http://www.robertpeterson.org/chap07.html at the bottom)

QuoteAs an experiment, try to stay awake or prolong consciousness while you're falling asleep. Try to "walk" the thin line between conscious and unconscious. Try to get closer and closer to sleep while holding onto a thread of consciousness. Learn to hang onto that borderland state for long periods: This is a useful skill in learning OBEs.

If you are able to do this, you will not have to worry about breathing -- you will breathe subconsciously.
#584
Welcome to Members Introductions! / Hello
February 28, 2006, 16:24:20
Hi

My name is Ben and I am 21 years old.

I started reading about OBEs on the internet around the age of 14, after my mother told me of two times she had experienced involuntary OBEs.

One of them was while reading, she suddenly found herself flying in the room, and looked down at herself, still reading. She started panicking because she thought she was dying, or about to witness her own death, and she slowly started drifting away from her body despites her efforts to get back. She then suddenly blacked out and found herself in her body again, absolutely dumbfounded and scared, with the book still in her hands ; her body was still awake when it happened... She slept with the lights on for the next month or so ;p

I have been attempting to induce OBEs myself, after reading Robert Peterson's book, which I am sure most of you are familiar with. My mother's experiences were very convincing to me, since everything she described to me, I found very similar accounts of on the internet -- there was clearly no mere coincidence there.

In any case... Over all these years that I have been trying, I haven't been training seriously enough, in my opinion. Getting to the point where I do not feel my body anymore is very easy to do, but after that happens, I mostly either fall asleep or get scared, or my heart starts racing because I feel I am getting closer, which causes me to drift away from my relaxed state.

I thought of joining a message board to get some help achieving astral projection... And here I am.

I haven't attempted to project in many years now, I got discouraged after trying for several months and getting no results. I've tried twice in the past 2 days, still with no luck, and encountered certain problems.

There are concerns I have that are possibly preventing me from being fully relaxed, or believing that I can indeed astral project.

- I have trouble sleeping on my back because I can't seem to keep my head straight. I tend to sleep on my side with my arm under my head, and the other arm pushed up against the blanket so that I can breathe easily.
Now I've somehow convinced myself that it is impossible or at least very difficult to achieve astral projection if you aren't on your back ; is there any truth to this?

- The psychological part plays an important role in actually achieving astral projection (according to what I've read, once again).

One thing that preoccupies me is that I am mostly looking forward to doing all the "bad" things you can't do in the physical plane ; watching girls undress, reading exam topics before an exam, being able to read people's minds, etc.

I am not very confident, and I tend to feel very guilty by nature whenever I do something wrong. Now I feel that the reason I am having trouble projecting is because my "higher being" does not want me to do these things, it knows that I will use this power to do selfish things. Has anyone heard of such a thing happening, or am I just overthinking this?

If I write a letter to myself, do you think it could potentially help me get some progress with this feeling? I think I'll try doing that, actually :p

- It is possible to visit someone in their sleep ; a lot of people reported seeing others hovering a few inches above their body while asleep. Is it possible to somehow interact with someone who is sleeping? Is it 'dangerous'? Can I give someone here my address and ask them to come 'wake my spirit up' during the night to help me become conscious during my sleep?

- How significant is 'family psychic ability'? My mother has also had experiences with Ouija boards, she was told that she had a good ability, and was making it very easy for the visiting spirit to stay energized -- an innate ability to get in touch with her subconscious. Could this affect me?

Anyway, I'll browse around some more, hopefully my questions aren't TOO common :O

Thanks in advance to anyone who replies :)

- Ben