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Frank did have a fantastic way of removing all the mysticism out of AP which can be a major turn off for many, including myself.

He was here and long gone before I came around here but his insights are brilliant. From reading his posts, I think he would be the first to say that no one should idolize him for his experiences especially since everyone can easily have their own.

However, there's nothing wrong with giving credit to the people who help us along the way.

Can you please explain the method of project from a lucid dream?

When we dream about familiar people or places, there are many things that are different or just seem off. 99% of the time most people are slightly aware but don't take the time stop and think about it. For example, I sometimes dream about close friends and relatives but occasionally the dream character that is supposed to be my uncle Bill is actually someone I have never met. Well that's really odd but we are conditioned to just go with it for the sake of the dreams narrative.

When that happens, stop and really take notice. You can even tell the guy who is pretending to be Uncle Bill that you know he's not who he's pretending to be. If you stop the natural flow of the dream for just five to ten seconds, it will almost always fade away since you stopped it from running it's course. At that point, you are in the astral and all you have to do is think about what you want to do.

Good luck.

Entropy = disorder of sorts associated with unavailable energy in a closed thermodynamic system.
"Lowering Our Entropy" = learning how to maintain order regardless of unavailable energy in a closed thermodynamic system.

A for effort but f for displaying ineptitude for the context.

It's funny like that. Many people have their first success when they aren't even trying. I know a lot of people say that thought equals action in the NPR and that's true but you also have to have belief. Believe that you can fly or that you will go to France and I guarantee it. Just understand that you might end up in medieval France in some dungeon  so it's best to think specifics.

I'm sure this experience still had a lot of dream like qualities to it. I think it was probably my fourth or fifth time with intent that I would say it felt as real as any other reality could feel.

Congratulations and keep exploring. You haven't seen anything yet!!

I went to bed this evening with no intentions to project but I had a short dream that caught my attention and I became completely aware. It was unique because I did a little bit of reading in the projection and I woke myself up early because I was able to recall quite a bit of it. I wanted to share with you all the little "trick" that I used so maybe it can help someone else out. I know that remembering what we read during an OOBE is hard to nearly impossible for many of us.

The first thing I did was acknowledge that I was reading and that I really wanted to remember it. I know that doesn't sound like much but it really reinforced my desire to recall what I read.

After each page (there was 3 in all), I stopped and associated a geometric shape and a different color to each page. Then I placed the image of the page with all the words inside of the shape. The first page was a red circle followed by a blue triangle and then a green square. A young man cam along just as I was finished reading it and his distraction caused me to slip into a regular dream state. I was opening a safe and when I opened it, all three of the shapes were inside of it. This made me regain my awareness.

They weren't in order as the pages but I was still able to remember what page and it's original order that I first read them in. I am confident that I can remember about 80 % of each page now that I am awake.

I think this worked because the colored shapes gave my a single image that I was able to associate with the pages instead of trying to remember 150 different words. In effect, the shapes became a symbol or a metaphor that represented the pages. I did not think of this strategy prior to the projection. It just came to me.

If anyone has any ideas as to why they think this was effective, I would sure be interested in hearing them. I hope this can help someone else out. Also, I'd like to hear what some of you all do to help you remember what you read during a dream or projection.

I'm sorry to hear about your cat. For those of us who cherish all life, this can be as difficult as losing a loved person.

What about the dream made you think the teacher was Jesus? Was it when he held you and you felt the love?

This is very true - and that amount points to the very definite possibility that these personal experiences are only subjective.  What that points to is that:

1: It is indeed the brain which is causing all the experiences and they are not real.
2: The experiences are real but are and can only ever be subjective.
3: The experiences are real but certain key elements are missing which can assist in the experiences being objectively shared.

The reason why I dismiss #1 is due to not only my personal validations but those of others. Back in late February, I had an OOBE that ended up being more of a prophetic vision. It involve my older sister who was living in Maine at the time. I was told to call her and tell her what I saw. All the info that I was given turned out to be about 97% correct (yes, that is a made up percentage but it would only be more accurate if I raised it).

My sister was literally stunned and speechless for a couple of minutes. Only she and I can definitively say that there was no rational reason or means by which I could have come across this info in any other manner. Since there is no way for us to prove that this experience was 100% genuine and such, I would have to keep #1 up there if I wanted to be speak objectively. This doesn't invalidate anything though. This is obviously your second possibility listed.

I just watched a program on Animal Planet about mermaids. It aired last year originally but Sunday night's showing was followed by another hour of new evidence. I thought it was very compelling and if anybody wants to see it, it will re-air on Monday night on the Discovery Channel.

Here's a synopsis of the theory.

We humans have evolved from a great ape that began to live in a semi aquatic environment off the coast of Africa sometime between 6-7 million years ago. We found an abundant food source that was rich in iodine and fatty acids amongst other nutrients that fueled our brain growth. Wading in the shallows is how we became bipedal. We began to evolve in ways that were much more suitable for this environment. We lost most of our hair so that we would be more streamlined and have less drag while swimming. We started to sweat, not just as a means of cooling down, but also as an efficient way of ridding our bodies of excess salt. We adapted the ability to hold our breath underwater for up to 20 minutes. No other primate can come close to this time and it is even longer that some marine mammals today. Newborn babies instinctively hold their breath underwater and can even swim. Again, no other primate does this. We also have some webbing in between our fingers and toes that is also not present in any other primate. The theorists ask why would we have the abilities and traits if they were not at one time extremely important to us. Mother nature doesn't usually bestow unneeded characteristics.

After about a million years or so of evolving into these semi aquatic mammals, the environment began to become drastically unfriendly to our way of life. There were earthquakes with tsunamis as well as a extended period of coastal volcanic eruptions. Most of our ancestors retreated back inland but a smaller group went the opposite direction and went into the ocean. That's the theory.

Here's the proof.

Starting in 2004, there were massive beachings of marine mammals all around the world. The National Oceanic Atmospheric Administration was called on to investigate one such beaching off the coast of Washington State. They arrived to find that the US Navy was already there conducting their own investigation. They had cordoned off a small section of the beach where they would not allow anyone to access it. They appeared to be doing some sort of autopsy. The biologists from NOAA took tissue samples from many different animals including dolphins and whales. It is highly unusual to see different species of marine mammals beached in the same incident. Back at the lab, the biologists were shocked by what they found.

Every tissue sample showed strong indications of catastrophic blunt force trauma. They were able to quickly form a theory. Based on the presence of the Navy as well as the trauma, they concluded that the Navy had been testing some sort of new sonar weapon. The Navy did and still continues to deny this but NOAA had an ace up their sleeve.

They had an underwater recorder not far from the beach that they used to track the local whale populations. Analyses of the recordings not only showed the obvious priming and discharge of a high frequency sonar weapon, it also captured the bio-sonar communications of an unknown marine mammal. They sent this recording to an expert in marine mammal communications and confirmed that there was indeed a new species on the tape. He was amazed at the complexity of the language and how many different signifiers that we would refer to as words, that were present. More so, two kids were on the beach before the Navy arrived and took cell phone video of a strange animal that had webbed hands and a skull with a pronounced ridge line. They poked it with a stick and it raised up. They ran off scared and reported what they saw. They later changed their official statements supposedly because of pressure from the Navy. Thankfully, the kids did not tell the Navy about their video. It was pretty damn cool.

Less than a year after the Washington beaching, one occurred off the coast of South Africa. A South African university also had an underwater sonar recorder not far from the scene and it also captured the same unknown species. Even more amazing, they were communicating with dolphins. Immediately, the university asked the NOAA biologists for assistance and they flew in. They were taking to a pier where a great white shark had just been caught and brought in. They noticed that the shark had deep cuts and puncture wounds. In one of the wounds, they discovered a long barb from a stingray embedded in the puncture. This was odd because many sharks do eat stingrays but great whites are not one of them. However, the biologists weren't there to look at the shark. They were there to see what it had recently eaten.

Though badly damaged, they were able to find some very unusual parts from this unknown marine mammal. There was a tail fluke that was largely undamaged as well as the top of a skull that had a distinct ridge line. There was also a rib cage that was hinged to be collapsible and an intact hip bone. This type of ribcage is only found in deep diving marine mammals. The hip bone design was very similar to human hip bones and proved that what ever this animal was, it evolved from a mammal that was at one time bipedal. Humans are the only known mammal to be bipedal. Also present were smaller bones that were obviously linked but had come apart. These later proved to be hand bones. Some other bones were present but were not part of this animal. The tail fluke at first glance appeared to be very similar to that of a manatee. They thought that this was perhaps kin to the manatee but after they found that it had bones in it from an x-ray, they dismissed that theory. They then turned their attention to the unrelated bones. They appeared to be hand worked and had a notch carved into the top of one that was also wrapped in kelp. Looking at the notch, they thought that it might have been used to hold something. They then took the stingray barb and inserted it. It was a perfect fit and looked exactly like a spear.

The show also told stories of fisherman catching fish hundred of miles off shore that had broken barbs in them as well. Some university had a collection of different barbs and spear tips that had been collected through the years. Many had intricate ornamental designs.

They also showed a video that was taken by the Royal Coast Guard of Britain in 2003. It was taken at night and shows an animal that appeared to be humanoid with a thick ridge line on the top of hits skull. The two sailors on the boat were at first, convinced that they came across a man overboard but were unable to find it. After this film was leaked, the RCG acknowledged that the footage was genuine but that the humanoid was actually a seal. It's obviously not but... what do you expect.

A second film was taken by an man overlooking a bluff. He was filming something that was sunning on a large rock down below. This animal leaned up in a hurry and then turned to climb into the water. The footage is genuine but the animal was determined to be a seal. It too, was obviously not.

Another film was taken by a remote underwater camera that was inspecting the legs of an offshore drilling platform. It was hundreds of feet down. A fish swims slowly into the view of the camera when we suddenly see a small spear dart in and kill it. Something the quickly catches it and vanishes. It is not possible to make out what grabbed the fish but the depths exclude humans as being the hunter.

The last video is from a deep sea dive taken from a small submersible that two men were in. They were about a mile deep in a trench somewhere off the coast of Greenland. Two separate cameras capture a webbed hand that quickly slaps the glass dome and an animal with a distinct ridge line on it's skull.

They also showed an ancient cave painting off of some coast that clearly shows modern men fighting with mermaid like animals. Was this a great imagination or the documentation of a battle between humans and a group of mermaids?

The show was amazing and the evidence that it presented was very compelling. The only thing that I didn't understand was the huge supposed cover up. It's not like this thing was an alien. The only explanation was that the Navy did not want to admit to having this kind of weapon capability and did not want to deal the public outcry of it killing off a very close relative to us. That's plausible but a little weak IMO.

Do yourself a favor and watch this if you didn't. My synopsis did not spoil it. I promise.

I forgot to say one of the most important factors to me. My father says that he actually saw a young mermaid that was dead in Brazil. It was in the early 70's and he was working on a dredge. He thinks that it must have been about a year or two at the most. He said it's head had that distinct ridge line and he told me this story when I was a kid. He is a no nonsense kind of guy and is skeptical of just about everything. My father's word should mean squat to all you guys but it's good as gold to those of us who know him.

But is it possible to experience it from a starting point of phasing in a lit room, where there is no pre-3D darkness to allow for any "noticing in the darkness" that will then lead to the initiation of the 3D darknes

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Yes. That's what we are trying to stress. What we see during an OOBE is not with out physical eyes yet we see just as we do in the physical if not better many times. If we can see light and color without eyes when it is physically dark, it shouldn't be too hard for you to understand that you can see the 3-D blackness without your physical eyes when we are in a bright lit up room.

It has nothing to do with actual eye sight and everything to do with shifting your consciousness and focusing on a different reality.

If you are scared to project when it is dark, try using a small towel to cover your eyes. This will block out any light that isn't completely blocked out by your eyelids.

Good luck with your explorations.

I appreciate the gesture Will.

I have a few questions for you.

How does your particular Ouija board, or should I say mirror, actually work?

Is it a one man operation

Do you use a pendulum?

When you make contact with a being that seems trustworthy and knowledgeable, I assume that you would like to make contact again. Have you done this and if so, how do you know it is the same being?

Have you channeled any entities that are like the famous Seth and his lesser known cousin, Jarrod?

Thanks. Ouija is the numeral uno "don't you dare" thing in all of Christianity when pertaining to the occult. It actually ranks higher that human sacrifice.

I have only had a few personal experiences and those were years ago. Nothing happened but I have always believed that it is legit. Based on my personal OOBE and everything that they have opened me up to, I believe in it now more than other.

Hey what!  I have been explaining in some detail in different threads!  The only personality on this board who has even asked to know more, wasn't even you Simon!

It's no big deal but I know how much you dislike being wrong and appreciate it when it is possible to set things straight. You're welcome, Willie.

From my post on March 12, 2013

I know it annoys you to get off topic but would you please explain your mirror of the Earth. I never understood what your avatar was until I saw it in the member's art thread.

It is amazing to say the least and completely fascinating to look at. I am not asking from a critical stance, I just want to know what inspired you to may such a beautiful piece that appears to be so much more than just art.

Thanks,

A fan.

Does this qualify as asking to know more?

I guess it would probably be no longer than an hour or so but that is misleading. You can live a lifetime in that hour.

I am speaking of a continuous and uninterrupted OOBE. I often "go right back" after a short break or interruption. Sometimes for many hours.

I call it the void and to me it is a blackness with depth and dimension. I can't see any outlines yet I can perceive them. I instinctively know my way around. I can only get there after projecting from a dream and it is usually short lived. It isn't dependent on light or the lack thereof, just a shift in consciousness.

Some people enjoy spending a lot of time there as they say this is where they can hear all sorts of music both known and unknown to them. While I have heard plenty of music, it was never in the void because as I said, my time there is always short.

I agree, it's definitely no illusion.

Any dream is a successful projection. You were gaining your awareness but weren't yet completely lucid. It takes a lot of work to recognize that your dreaming so good job on that.

The hour that this happened and the fact that you were already in a semi awake state tells me that you were really close to having your whole comfort zone ripped out from under you. You'll love it when that happens.

Keep it up.

Hold on...Wait a sec. No one has to justify their feelings here. I completely understand what you guys are saying and I'm not uptight about all this. I was just stating an informed opinion. I find humor in all sorts of stuff that in reality is misery to someone else. That's where humor is doing it's best work.

Mel Brooks took a lot of heat for making comedy out of Hitler and Nazism and his reason for doing so was that there was no greater way to show how good prevails than to laugh at it's enemies. I think he makes a valid point.

But South Park pointed out that you have to wait 22.5 years before you can laugh at something that is taboo.

I was not offended in the least.

They way you described these guys, it does sound comical and cartoonish. The flip side is that they are pushing this stuff on people who have vulnerable psyches and they don't have the personal experiences that tell them this is all self manifested. They think they are doing good but in reality all they are doing is encouraging people to live in fear of this stuff. As someone who has seen this belief ruin lives, it's not funny at all.

Lion- As you know, this was one of the last few things that I had to reconcile with my past beliefs so that I could progress.

It's so strange how so much is opened up to us by just changing our mindsets. Many things that seemed impossible or just didn't make any sense at all, now fit comfortably into my overall scheme of things.

A huge burden is lifted off your shoulders once you stop hoping for damnation to be the fate of others, no matter how much you think they deserve it.

That was funny!

Help keep us all safe from figments of their own imaginations! 

Don't be so quick to judge and discount the experiences of others. It wasn't all that long ago that most of the world thought that people who believed they were actually communicating with entities trough a Ouija board were nuts also.

Many people held that belief as recently as one second ago.

Don't forget...Somebody has to be the bad guy. Someone has to test your evolved consciousness. The circumstances have to come about in some manner and there's no better way then some piece of crap to do that.

So in that respect, they're just doing there part as well.

[knew]

Hi there.

Have you tried to project from a lucid dream yet? This is one of the easiest methods to get that first success. Projecting from a meditative state is as easy as it sounds yet it is still very difficult. There is an elusive piece that even the experienced projectors have a hard time nailing down in words when trying to explain it and even we can't do it every time. There is a certain moment of disconnect that occurs and most of us aren't even aware when it happens so we don't even notice it. I got it down very quickly but I had two spontaneous OOBE before I even knew what they were. So when I found out you could intentionally have one, there was no stopping me. I credit it to the fact that I knew the experience was real and didn't just believe it was.

Right now, just keep an open mind and don't give up.

Another common method that is highly successful for beginners is the alarm clock method. This forum has tons of info on it so give it a read.

Welcome and good luck.

That's his Ouija and we have already tried to get him to explain it in lore detail but he won't. Personally, I would make a million of those bad boys and make a quick buck (all for charity, of course.).

Just send her another letter or better yet, call her. If she brushes you off then you will know for sure.

The problem with dreams is that you should always think twice about their content when they appear to be affirming your desires. We manifest that stuff all the time just to have a taste of the good stuff.

So I have to say that I think there is nothing to this dream other than reflecting back your wish. Think about it. Almost everyone is more brazen and is willing to take greater risks of their heart over the internet. What could possibly be stopping her from exploring this a little further if she was really interested? Even people who are happily involved with someone else, like to get involved online.

Just think about it and give her another text or call.

Hope I wrong and good luck.

Who exactly isn't ready to know? Is it mankind in general, organized religions and their followers, the boy scouts.

It seems to me that the people of the world are foaming at their mouths to get their governments to 'fess up or show some actual proof that they too are in the dark, though I do wonder how the govs can prove that they don't know something.

In regards to Christianity, it's starting to appear as if the Catholic Church is priming it's flock for disclosure.

Here's a quote from Catholic.net:
Father Funes, who took over as head of the observatory in 2006, denied that the existence of other intelligent life-forms would contradict Christian belief.

"As there exist many creatures on earth, so there could be other beings, also intelligent, created by God," he said. "This doesn't contradict our faith because we cannot put limits on the creative freedom of God. To say it as St. Francis [of Assisi], if we consider some earthly creatures as 'brother' and 'sister,' why couldn't we also talk of an 'extraterrestrial brother'? He would also belong to creation."

It should be mentioned that Father Funes is a Jesuit. Jesuits are a secret society of males within the Catholic Church. Through out the church's history, Jesuits have held positions that are usually deemed to not be in line with official policy. This gives them their aura of mystique which the church uses to their advantage. This allows the church some wiggle room to be involved in controversial matters. It's note worthy because they now have their first ever Jesuit Pope. I guess that means Jesuits now speak officially on behalf of the church. This could get very interesting.

Considering they forced Galileo to recant the truth about the planets revolving around the sun under threat of death, it's a little odd to some people that they have one of the largest and most sophisticated observatory in the world. Yeah, they might just be looking for Wormwood but every other observatory in the world is on the lookout for doomsday threats as well so that doesn't sound too plausible.

Since the Catholic Church seems to be embracing the idea of alien life, you can bet that this will have a huge impact on the Protestants as well. In Christianity, there is the Catholic Church and the other denominations fall under Protestant and breakdown from there.

The only other major religions that have not yet made any kind of "welcoming" statement are the Muslims and the Jews. I expect that will change soon as well.

I'm not sure what the Boy Scouts think about alien life but if it's anything like their policy towards homosexuals, I'm sure it's pretty archaic.

Wow Will.  What's going on over there in the land down under?

When you say this:

I am not against YOU (or the 'we' you allude to be representing - btw if any of these 'we' are reading this, please step forward and speak for your selves) I am FOR honesty, sincerity, truthfulness and pulling aside the veils of mystical subjectivity for the sake of the collective objectivity.

Are you referring to this from Lionheart:

You even said we should be preserving the future, instead of preserving the past, in another thread made here on Pyramid destruction. We still have no idea what the Pyramids were built for and what their uses could be. We haven't delved deep enough into the mystery yet. There is valuable information to still be found in them. But, in many areas Archeologists are being blocked from digging deeper.

That's the only thing that Lionheart wrote where he mentioned the word "we". That being true, it may seem as if I am just trolling by asking if that is the "we" you are referring to but that's what makes the tangent you went off on so...well, it's a little disturbing. I'm concerned about your well being Will. It is completely obvious to me that the "we" that Lionheart referenced is mankind in general and in total. Yet you took it to mean that Lionheart is speaking for some sort of secret or underground group of members here on the pulse. 

That is a gross misunderstanding. So much so that a court would find you negligent since you just got through making these statements (I feel obligated to put a disclaimer here and say that there is no actual court):

They [Lionheart's accusations against you] show a distinct inability to comprehend collective consciousness...

as well as

we can barely communicate honestly and maturely among ourselves!

I know that you can't see it from your position but you are the one that actually lacks the ability to understand or relate to people. I'm not saying this to be rude.

I like to reply to your comments William, but you make it hard to sometimes. You misconstrue so many statements. Statements that are often times just off the cusp or said jokingly but had no real purpose other than attempts of humor. I always feel like I need to triple clarify some of my replies just to make sure that there is no possible way you can misunderstand my meaning and/or intent.

The radical conclusions that you often arrive to make me think that you are slight paranoid, grew up in extreme isolation from peers, or that you may have a mild form of autism. I am not saying that to be funny or to imply that there is anything wrong with that but it would help me to understand you a little more.

I feel as if I need to say that I am not speaking for Lionheart. I say this because he is most likely not gonna respond and I don't want you to say that I am. It almost feels like junior high all over again but without all the fun.

BTW. Thanks for the synopsis on the video. That was very helpful.

Your friend,

Simon.

Possible "Deathbed Confession" or just another disinformation attempt. You decide!

http://vimeo.com/64939351

He has nothing to lose, but the World has everything to gain!

For some reason, I can't watch anything from that website. Can you give me a rundown of what he says?

I'd appreciate it. Thanks.