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Well it's the government, so it's still 'them' who have the crafts and not us. In this galaxy there are some humans like us - originating on Earth but living on other planets - who have some nice crafts, but again they exist nowhere in our culture.

I hear the triangles are just retarded versions of anti-gravity design anyway. Those things could probably make it to the Moon but that's it. I'm sure their real porpose is on-planet warfare.

Note, also, most of these humanoids got their ships by cooperating with other cultures. What holds humanity back is everyone's urge to take things and say "It's mine and nobody else can use it without my permission." Take one look at pro-copyrighters and you'll see why our culture is a dump.

You probably pay and then the download mysteriously cuts off in the middle

I heard that after the Roswell incident, some kids in the area had somehow 'learned' to make a small anti-gravity craft that worked pretty well. You might try searching that out.

Anyone who's good with telepathy could maybe ask some off-worlders, or someone could try during astral projection. If you could get ahold of an alien mechanic, they might tell you a few things.
I'll note, however, the reason we don't have anti-gravitational crafts is not for lack of knowledge, but because malevolent forces don't want us to have it. Building a craft is a bit risky

Atlantis and Lumeria are creation stories? Let's not group everything you're unfamiliar with into one category

I think it's great that the US public is ditching the geocentric-life model against the will of the government. It shows independence. People may still whine that their government/media overlords won't talk about the outside universe (as though the opinions of rich liars is more important than facts) but society is at least leaning in the right direction.

I have the same habit of hating new things. Like P.O demonstrated, it's the fear that everything you believe will come crashing down. The presence of off-world life means people have to re-think their understanding of the universe; re-think their history, their evolution, their understanding of physics and biology. Everyone seems to have a belief that's disturbed by outsiders.

But as CFT mentioned, these fears are often exaggerated. Much of our history is still correct, the religious texts still have some truth, evolution is still there, and not every off-world life form is out to kill us. I was searching Youtube for alien videos the other day, and it's nothing but doomsday theories and invasions and conspiracies. No mention of the ordinary outsiders who stop by the planet to chat once in a while. It's always "oh no here come the outsiders to destroy our way of life"

I can't account for every alien cover-up (different cases can have different reasons to be classified), but there's a group of humanoids that has a tight grip on the US and UK governments, and they try to stay hidden. Most cover-up orders are - without much doubt - coming from them.

You're actually onto something there. The humanoids who were involved in humanity's design (marked as gods in ancient texts) do allow life to evolve on its own while they leave. They'll sometimes leave their new life forms unattended for thousands to millions of years before checking back. Some just splice together a life form, drop it on the planet and leave before it even hatches.

I notice, yeah, pretty much every life form that's been dubbed a god has been murderous in some way

An omnipotent god would have no choice but to control every action of every human, because he would know the outcome of everything he does and already knew everything the human would do in their life. Free will would only exist in that everything you do is the will of the omnipotent god, and because it's absolutely impossible to defy their will, you are therefore carrying out their will no matter what you do.

Even if you're correct (and you are), the people you call sheep are hierarchists all the same. They dream of dominance, they want others to suffer for them, and they can only be considered victims in that they have to live in the world they created. If anything, the people at the top are the ones being manipulated. If one of them falls, they'll be replaced by someone just like them. They were brought up in societies that expect them to live and die for an agenda without question - they just happen to be better at it than most people. They are caught in a situation where everyone expects them to call the shots and take all the blame, their parents and friends thrust them into these positions, they don't have a moment of peace, everyone is out to get them, and yet everyone uses them as the yardstick by which all evil is measured. They are simply going through the motions given to them by the collective.

People cannot stop the guys at the top any more than they can stop breathing. They are your puppets - your scapegoats - the instrument of your guilty conscience. As long as they are 'in control of us', we don't have to give a crap about what we do.

If anyone out there really wants to save the world from destruction, then QUIT DESTROYING IT

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'Delusional' is where someone makes up a story or dismisses information to make themselves feel better. But you know what that's like, don't you?

Well the christian god became especially murderous after he created this world he couldn't control. So, even in mythology, the rule still applies. People became rampant killers because they took after their creator

We've always lived in a world where it's okay kill masses of life. You eat about 100 animals in a month if you're a meat-eater, you shop at stores that were built on forests, buy things tested on animals. You were born into the same behaviors as Hitler, chances are you live the way he lived, and you pave the way for future generations to do the same.

So, judgments? Ask the angels why such evils as the holocaust go practically unpunished, and they'll quickly show you a flashback of your own life. Earth is just a cesspool of death and everyone big and small is a part of it.

quite a few nights ago maybe about a month now I had a dream that aliens were speaking to me

any memory of what they said?

I've been hearing the biggest stuff will happen around 2014, both telepathically and on the internet. I've also got more details but i can't name many people in this forum I'd spare from a disaster

Anything can be called a god. The bible demonstrates this as the book takes several inhuman entities in history and changes their names to 'God' to suit monotheism.

The things you label 'god' are entirely up to yourself

Oh I think he's just 'preaching the word' and not trolling. There really are people who believe that stuff

Its quite simple what happened to this guy........he went into sleep paralaysis and hallucinated. Its not uncommon at all.

probably not a good place to spread your goofy belief system

I like greg's take on this

Drugs don't take you into any kind of experience, they numb the things that hold you back from the experience.  If you didn't have to worry about the flesh and if we didn't have the heavy elements pumped into our atmosphere, we could probably ride the waves of solar wind to the next planet.  But, somewhere along the line of history, we gained flesh; and that is what holds us back.

I'm no good at projecting, but I have some skills in telepathy and I've noticed I'm the most receptive in a half-asleep - sometimes delirious - state. It's the most effective when my brain is falling asleep but my heart is still beating at the same rate, often during arousal. The sleep state causes your mind to let down all defenses, but the increased heart rate leaves your willpower intact so you can direct this altered state of mind.

It's similar to the effect of many drugs. Lower brain waves and higher heart rate. It seems to me that our brains have 'defenses' that prevent us from using our complete mind when we're awake, disabling telepathy and projection. I don't know why these defenses exist - it may be an evolutionary mechanism to protect us from psychic predators, although I doubt it. All I know is we can do extraordinary things when these defenses go down.

Science is not some instrument that beeps when it detects something. It's a process of figuring out the objective facts using circumstantial information.

Is there any real indication that Greys don't have souls? I always wondered about that, because every Grey-type I've heard of had a pretty good understanding of the soul. Some have it down to such a science that they can split their life force and place them in several bodies to do multiple tasks.

I did hear something about Zetans in particular believing they have no soul, but it sounded more like a belief

Why does this still come up? People who follow this stuff say 'atheism is correct because the brain creates hallucinations using certain chemicals', but if you ever look up WHY they believe these chemicals produce hallucinations, it boils down to 'because the chemicals cause people to see things that defy atheism'

I think it's essential for a body to have a soul, otherwiser it just stays in a comatose state. If anything, one should question how well their soul can live without a body

As in, someone came up with a situation and put you in it.
And I wondering if the source was important, since the question was answered

And how can you know the source who claims this is true, and not decieving anyone?

You deal only in beliefs, so none of these words have meaning. I could have told you all the answers but information is dangerous in the wrong hands, so I was cautious and only gave hints, and that's all you'll get.

Ahaha, I get nervous about weird life forms in my room too. Personally I've only projected a few times, so I'm still anxious. My field is mostly telepathy since I can never seem to exit.

Deuteronomy was written by the beings you'll want to avoid in the astral. They're the organized predators who try to prevent humans from becoming astrally adept, thereby keeping us a sort of slave race. The funny thing is, you're MORE vulnerable to attacks when you stay away from the astral. Someone can attack your mind or pull you out of your body any moment, and there's not much you can do to prevent it if you're inexperienced with spirits. I have some trouble dealing with this fact myself since I'm rather paranoid - we've been conditioned to fear what's out there.

It may help to find some friends in the astral. Then it'll feel safe

Did the blue seem like a color you haven't seen before? It sounds like you were seeing ultraviolet light - normally invisible to human eyes