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Can't cross running water?? It's damn near the 4th dimension there's nothing stopping them from teleporting to the other side!

It is Robert Bruce's belief that earth bound spirits cant cross running water .  I was just thinking about people that die at sea. Some must become earth bound .  What about that ship called the flying  Dutch man , many believe its bad luck to see it http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_Dutchman   

There are stories of spirits being trapped in an object , but I think this running water thing just sounds strange .  I guess Robert Bruce is entitled to his beliefs .  They could be ghosts that fear water , but I dont know if that makes much scense either .

There may be a few people with health problems that binaural beats could cause problems .  I know a flashing light can cause problems for people with epilepsy .  
p.s. If you go way above audio in to the r.f. at 2450 Mhz ( a micro wave oven) thats the osc. of a water molicule . It might be best to check with your doctor . 

Taken from a Robert Bruce post
This thinking is supported by repeated observations that they (earthbound spirits) cannot cross running water unaided. They can hitchhike over running water using sensitive animals and humans, but they cannot do this unaided. This can be demonstrated experientially by field work with persons under attack, which I have done for many years, countless incidents. The results are instant in all cases involving the early stages of attack, which can be severe. Subjects include adults and children as young as 9mths, and animals. Beliefs in this situation are irrelevant.   
http://www.astraldynamics.com.au/showthread.php?8549-Psychic-Security-(Robert-Bruce)   
I dont know if I believe this , just thought it fit on this thread . 

Its a common belief that we all go out during certain parts of sleep , and only remember as a vague dream . Your dream may of been bits and peces from being out of body . 

We all go out during certain parts of sleep , but dont remember .  I dont think being able to have a conscious o.b.e. is genetic , I think its more knowing about it , and how to do it . If grand maw explanes to her grand kids how to have an o.b.e. and not to be afrade , then they probly will .

I dont think all abductions are s.p. Travis Walton was missing for 5 days , hear in my state of Arizona .This was a very big story when it hapned .    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Travis_Walton    I think many are tho .  A lot of that video made by the guy on http://obe4u.com/   links s.p. , the phase , and abductions .  That half awake half asleep state is a bit tricky .

That abduction feeling during s.p. was what the guy on obe4u was discribing . I wounder if there is not some kind of fear built that is manifesting this .

If you were good at a.p. and could teach it to others you could hold classes .

The Christian belief system with a jellious , controlling God kind of ruins things . 

I dont know if the roll out method is covered in the pdf file from hear , but I found this on another forum http://www.spellsofmagic.com/read_post.html?post=511105     

I thought they were trying to make money from the spam posts .  Not really spam , but I remember an electronics forum that an automatic add would be posted on a thread , as I remember , for an electronics school, some parts places , ect. I guess it provided money to keep the forum up . 

I am just west of Phoenix my self , there are some astral meet up sites that are easy to find with a web search .  
p.s. One of many sites http://astralprojection.meetup.com/

I guess one could take the idea of combat in to the astral .  I would like to aproch the astral in a different way .  The idea of astral sex has greater interest to me .   Sex with a porn queen or combat with a demon ? I guess I will haft to sleep on this .
p.s. This forums thread on astral sex and Erin Pavlina's blog on astral sex.  (adults only ) http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_permanent_astral_topics/astral_sex-t1431.0.html  http://www.erinpavlina.com/blog/2012/03/astral-sex-the-ecstasy-of-out-of-body-pleasure/   

I found these links with a very simple search .  http://www.hotspotsz.com/UFOs_or_Magick_(Article-71).html  http://www.nolava.org/warrioradept.htm  http://www.amazon.com/The-Techniques-Astral-Combat-Analysis/dp/0595215122   I know nothing about this person or his/her work .  I typed the name on a search site http://www.dogpile.com/info.dogpl/search/home  

There is an interesting post on this forum a few months back , of some one making a visit to God while out of body .  
p.s. http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_out_of_body_experiences/i_asked_to_see_god-t38258.0.html 

I can make an audio sig. gen. for 432 hz for a few $ , a lot less that $155 ,  would that do about the same thing ?  
http://www.amazon.com/Velleman-MK105-Audio-Signal-Generator/dp/B000TA3FKS  https://www.fairradio.com/catalog.php?mode=viewitem&item=3820  
p.s. http://www.4qdtec.com/singen.html   

lol whats wrong with god or jesus

We may of taken this thread slightly off track.  I believe in a God I see as more of a cosmic life force , not a gray hair guy on a mountain , on Jesus , he was takken from other belief systems . Moon cresent girl needs to state what is hapening to her so we a better idea of how to deal with it . 

How can a church... who believes in an omnipresent super-galactic being who listens and judges every living soul on the planet, drinks the blood of his zombie son and eats his flesh, believes this son came from a virgin...  possibly claim that someone who follows their beliefs hasn't got a mental health problem?

We have an interesting thread on Jesus on hip .  http://www.hipforums.com/newforums/showthread.php?t=468287&f=51  and one on a Jesus that was a mushroom .  http://www.stevepavlina.com/forums/fun-recreation/68919-jesus-mushroom.html   

Since exorcism has been brought up , before a priest will do one the church will check out the person , making sure they dont have a mental or health problem .  If this ghost/demon has not possessed moon cresent girl , only saying some bad stuff , then I dont think an exorcism would be nessary . It is possable that moon cresent girl is not fully understanding this ghost/demon. The ghost may have some info that you dont fully understand . 

I say again if you are seeing and hearing people that have died that sounds like a ghost . I dont know what you mean by spiritural attack .  If a ghost or a demonic being is only using some bad words , then tell them ' yea I have heard worse from living people , just go away " 

There are a bunch more methods .  The rope method , you visualize pulling your self with your astral hands by a rope . Theres streching out the bottom of your feet or top of the head .  There is forming an astral body just above you and then joining it ,  there are    many different self hypnosis cds dvds and mp3s .  This forum has a free pdf file to down load and  http://obe4u.com/    does also .

If you are hearing the voices of people that you have known that have died , that may be ghosts.  It is also possable that there thought forms or tulpa .  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thought_form#Thoughtform   

I have not heard the Megan Fox joke , but the late actress Mae West is said to have invited ghosts to have sex with her . http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mae_west   

There are several posts on astral sex on this forum .   There are   a bunch of you tube videos on astral sex, I think some are using a perty lady just to sell stuff. Robert Monroe wrote about it in his books . Erin writes of it in some of her blogs . http://www.erinpavlina.com/    Astral sex could be older than earth sex , and just as popular .