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Relativity is to do with the situation, but also the individual reaction to the situation and while Consciousness gives ego its ability to say 'I am' it also allows for ego to make claims as to what exactly 'I am' is - but only in regard to ego, not to Consciousness, which has its own knowledge of what 'It is' without the need for any egos consent.

So do you think consciousness can ever be free of an ego. Surely even at it's source, it will still have the identity of "I am" albeit the highest achievable "I am".

If not the only alternative would be to not exist. At the source, it's either "I am all" or "I am not".

Hey there (I forgot your name) 

Simon

Do you think what you describe above is what death is about? 

It's interesting that you asked that because my intro into all of this occurred spontaneously and in that moment, I 100% believed that the only way that the experience was possible was if I was dead.

So, I tend to believe that it might be a close experience but of course I can't be sure.

Welcome IceDelta.

Actually, I would probably enjoy this place you've been. It seems relaxing in a way to kill me some zombie brethren.

Hi Lightbeam.

I used to feel the same way about regular dreams but I have personally realized that my own are much more than subconscious junk being processed in random bits. If I don't phase or project, I'd much rather just go with the dream than change it all up. Sometimes, however, I will get lucid but not enough to project. Our minds are weird when we lose our awareness and then suddenly regain it.

I know that you are not calling dreams junk but the west feels like this in general about dreaming.

Hello Joffa.

You wrote:

I then felt this weird uncomfortable sensation again but this time I felt like I needed to snap back to reality! So I did..

Then followed it with:

Was I close to projecting.

When your awake in this reality do you ever feel like this:

I needed to snap back to reality!

I'd bet that the answer is probably not. Can you see how you answered your own question,

What happened to me??

Hey there, William. 

I was wondering something. What would you do if you were to awake and find yourself in the "astral" spontaneously with all your awareness and focus?

Would you take advantage of it and explore or would you exit? You have already acknowledged that you have done your time in the "astral" without your full awareness as everyone does. I know you are very goal oriented and you have your reasons for not projecting but I don't think you would pass up the opportunity to explore with full awareness if were to just happen.

Once school is out for the summer, you will really be able to try what Contenteo recommended. I personally believe that projecting from a dream is the easiest way for a beginner but most think this isn't the real deal or it's less special.

After that, waking up early than going back to bed is the next easiest IMO. Wake up a good two hours early. Spend at least thirty minutes being awake, then lay back down. The actual time that you spend awake isn't important. What's important is that you wake yourself up enough to be able and keep your awareness but not so much that you can't go back to sleep. If you catch yourself yawning, that's the perfect time to give it a try.

This method takes advantage of your natural physical state and your mind is already relaxed. There is the concern about just falling asleep but the good news is that success usually happens pretty quickly. Usually within ten minutes or so. Keep in mind that it may still take you many attempts.

Don't get frustrated. Your mind is working on a way even when you aren't actively thinking about it. Consciousness is a beautiful thing so get out of your own way.

Some OOBE seem impossible to forget. That's how much they will mean to you. Other's will just be like any ol' "dream". That's because they are one and the same with different degrees of awareness. Gaining your awareness and keeping it takes time and practice.

If you don't wake yourself up right after an OOBE, you will probably just think of it as a normal dream and you will remember it as likely as you normally do. Again, this will take time time but don't worry. You'll be so amazed when it finally happens, that you are in little danger of forgetting the first few. When it becomes routine, the problem reemerges.

It makes the most sense that the latest theories are all starting to sound similar. Now that people are dropping all their fears and beliefs and are willing to explore as far as they can, the truth is emerging. Now, that scientific minds are phasing, we seem to be getting some very good theories. They didn't spend anytime protecting themselves with white light or projecting PUL in order to feel safe about their explorations. Doing so would have left them vulnerable to a tainted view. I don't think it's ironic at all, however, that PUL is the dominate outcome after their unbiased journeys.

One could say that they are feeding off of each other but that's the same as calling them liars and where's the productivity in that?

Go ahead and try and limit yourself to the old beliefs of astral projecting and see if you don't think it now falls way short of the more recent theories. I'm not saying they had it all wrong, only that they injected personal limitations due to fear and mindset and were thus incapable of seeing so much more.

Keep in mind though, that I believe if we could go way back to our origins and find objective physical evidence, we would probably be surprised. We are not learning the truth, we are relearning it and we are still way short.

In the event that this is an alternate reality, I still require some kind of explanation.

Sorry to say this, but only you can figure this out. Someone here may hit the nail on the head yet it will seem absurd to you until you have other experiences. Or they could be so far off the mark, yet it makes perfect sense to you.

My take is that the answer will eventually be revealed to you. Where it will come from? I've no idea.

Sunshaker, very well said.

Real truth can not be unlearned so we should all be careful of what we ask for. Some of us were "thrown" into the mix while others seek it out. I'm a bit of both.

I can no longer relate to many of the things that I held on to for dear life or fascinated me to no end. Not long ago at all, I was a staunch conservative on most American political ideas. I would have fought for my right to own a gun, now I couldn't care less. If you want to own one, fine with me. If you don't, that's great. I'm not saying that I won't stand for anything but I won't fight for something that I put no personal value in.

This is going to sound callous because I don't yet know how to convey what I feel.

I love life. I love my friends and family but I can go on with or without them and be just as happy. Try telling that to your loved ones and see if they understand. For some reason we think loving someone means that we should feel pain for their loss or suffering. Well, I do but it no longer concerns or worries me.

I'm a mama's boy to the bone and love my great mother. But she is in constant physical pain and to be honest, I would rather see it end. But she loves life and holds on because she knows how terrible the family will feel. If I was to ever see the day that I knew she no longer had any joy in life, I would tell her to go. If we ever love someone so much as to not bear the thought of losing them, then we are missing the point.

I no longer feel guilt as much either. This does not imply that I do as I want because I don't care. It just means that I know I care and because of that, I do nothing from an ill standing. The outcome may not be good but so be it. We have very little control over anything.

The road to hell is paved with good intentions is bull. All there is is our intentions and mine come from a loving heart.

Like you said, our old way of thinking was much easier but that doesn't mean it was right. My current mindset may not be either and I'm certainly willing to change it when I learn more truth.

Even in this physical reality, can we ever be certain that we will know what is waiting behind the door?

She seems to share the same concepts/views that Tom Campbell does, although she has found her information from past life regressions on other people.

This seems to be the most reasonable concept to me, not to mention that my own experiences back this up personally.

I don't know why people feel comforted by the thought of good and evil, yin and yang, karma and all that other stuff.

I find no peace or comfort in hoping that a baby killer will burn in flames or that a life sentence is justice of anything. These are new feelings to me but they are concrete. I have been touched personally by some horrible stuff and I no longer view the actions the same.

If we take the high ground and demand justice for everything, we are just demanding punishment for ourselves. We have certainly all trespassed upon another who wants our wrongs corrected. Damn, I feel a rant coming.

Welcome.

Everything you reported is normal. Everything.

I think the lady was your own thought form because it sounds to me like you were already "out" and just didn't know what to expect. If that's the case, an objective entity would have known this and wouldn't have said you were not ready.

Remember that you are not trying to get anywhere. You are just shifting the focus of your awareness and experiencing a different state of consciousness. We all do this naturally with no thought of method or technique. It's only when we try to do something with intent, that we have trouble. Such is the human condition.

Good luck and take advantage of the many threads and stickys.

However, I am wondering how I get to another location or how do I overcome the flying problem?

Just believe that you can. We all want to question the experience instead of just going with it. We ask ourselves if this is real and start thinking too much. And if it is real, we then want to impose the limitations of the physical reality that we exist dominantly exist in.

I am guilty of this myself in certain experiences. What is working for me is to just consider it a dream and not impose any definitions on a dream.

The NPR exists objectively but when we question everything and compare all the little details just to reassure our ego that we aren't crazy, we ruin it. 

What were they doing on they day he was assassinated?

Probably telling him, "see, we told you the astral was real"

I can buy that.

What I don't buy is that science knows the healthy amount of anything we should eat.

Time is a weird thing. It arguably doesn't exist yet we can measure it and can't escape it's relevance on our lives. We measure the concept in two ways. One is through distance and space and the other is through the degradation of material.

So how does one hold on to time? The only way I can think of is to remember the experience and that is the purpose of existing in a physical reality.

So why would we let all things go if the experience is the purpose?

Why climb a rope when you have wings? I understand going with the narrative but you have wings for crying out loud.

I was looking forward to some pizza being delivered.

I see it more like gases, like the air we breathe being composed of oxygen, nitrogen, helium and so on.

They all exist independent of the others yet they can combine with others.

Congrats.

Wanting to "return to your body" is a normal feeling and may strike you even after many experiences. Just recently, I projected into my room and I floated through the walls and I was about to go outside and a feeling hit me. I wanted to "go back". It wasn't fear. For whatever reason, I just felt like I didn't want to see what was next. Hard to explain but it was more like not not being ready for it and I've been doing this for years.

Again, congrats and there is much more waiting for you.

 

How do you erase it then?!

I imagine a giant pencil with a huge eraser....NO, just kidding.

Like I said, with intent. I imagine the dream crumbling away. I start piece by piece and soon the whole thing crumbles away and nothing is left but the blackness. I don't know how to explain it any any easier though.

Good luck.

Robert Bruce is the real deal. No doubt. But I don't watch his vids or read his material because he promotes the negative entity crap. And I have to say, I despise that as a general rule.