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#726
Hallo one & all
This is the second in a series of 4 or 5 recent OBEs. This one was less arcane and eerie than the last one and was more like a 'normal" OBE. I called this

"Late For Wakeup"
Thursday March 31, 2011 (OBE # 103)
   This actually began in the dream state where I was driving a car on Beechwood Blvd in the Squirrel Hill section of Pittsburgh. I was going some place, yet could not remember where, so pulled the car into a parking lot.
   Next I awoke in astral awareness still in the parked car and still unsure as to where to go. I started up the car and drove down the street towards Murray Ave. When going through that intersection I was even more confused because that location did not appear to look like it should have. So I turned around and drove back through that intersection. Then I pulled over, stopped the car, got out and flew up into the air to take a look around. After landing back on the sidewalk I was approached by a 30-something black woman. She was of moderate height and build and attraction. She sensed that I was lost. I explained to her that I was late for something and was in a hurry. And then I immediately left her, took to the air and flew off.
   Now airborne I flew over the large hill of Squirrel Hill heading to the University of Pittsburgh campus in the Oakland section of the city. Flying was slow yet was not laborious. While flying over the campus area a man stopped and questioned me. He was white, in his mid thirties and looked vaguely similar to the actor Jeff Bridges (although he was obviously not that person).
   I explained to him that I was late for a speaking engagement at a nearby conference on paranormal phenomena. Actually what was happening is that I was 'late' in getting back to my physical body and was currently experiencing the paranormal phenomenon of being outside my physical body. This man told some people that he was with that I might need help flying over or around several large nearby buildings. I responded that no help was needed and that I could capably navigate those obstacles without any assistance. To prove this I took to the air again and demonstrated some flying skills, which were adequate yet not very impressive.
   The man accompanied me in flight for 2 or 3 blocks. The area was a reasonable facsimile of the Oakland section of the city with the most recognizable landmarks -- The Pitt University Cathedral of Learning and St Peter's Church in the correct locations. Yet many other familiar buildings and streets were not in their normal locations. It was daylight and there were many vehicles and pedestrians moving about.
   This OBE was just about over. There was some difficult flying in the next block or two, which I just did quite manage to do. Then I was back in my physical body.
   Notes. Time was between 6:10 AM and 6:51 AM. Duration of the OBE was probably at least 40 to 45 minutes. I lay on my left side. OBE #103 was in a familiar BST, that of a section of the city of Pittsburgh. There were enough differences between the places that I flew over and the 'actual' physical layout to confidently label it a belief system territory. There were no familiar persons seen yet there were many unfamiliar (mostly) discarnate persons. Deliberate (passive),  Confused,  Emotional,  Flight. Teleport, Dream >>into>> OBE (and maybe sleep paralysis?). Pranayama (before),  Meditation (before),  Affirmations (before) and also practiced rope cargo net earlier before sleep.
   Note 2 One of the affirmations I do nightly before sleep is to "Wake up at 6:45 AM or earlier". This OBE occurred right about that time. So I must have been in a hurry to fly back to my physical body and awaken. This is an interesting case of an affirmation working (in reverse) and facilitating an OBE.

This was another successful dream conversion into an OBE. This is the method that I am currently focusing on and it is beginning to work well.

Regards  8-)
Grey
#727
Greetings.
cOsmOnautt
I don't know much about Satanism either. I believe that you are right, that it was some type of gathering place in a BST. I would also hazard to say that the place was also a power center as I could feel some strong energy there.

Astral316
There was no conscious choice of going into the Satanist compound so far as I am aware. Actually I drove past the front entrance of the compound to get to the road intersection. Maybe there was an unconscious desire or pressure to go right and not left there. Maybe, but maybe not.

Regards
Grey
#728
Hallo Simo
Try not to get too discouraged by that. It happens to even the most experienced projectors. Getting out of body is sometimes just a matter or trying, trying and then trying again until it happens.
Better luck next time.

Regards  8-)
Grey
#729
Hallo cOsmOnautt
I believe the 2 hardest things to do after separating and getting OOB are
1) getting away from the physical body before that 'pull' brings one back to the physical and ends the OBE and
2) getting good vision.
I frequently manage to get OOB only to suffer from distorted and blurry vision. Perhaps looking at something close up and familiar, such as the hands, is the best idea. So you apparently did a very good job of managing both 1) and 2).
The part about the flying was also quite cool.

Regards  8-)
Grey
#730
Hello Everyone.
I have been fortunate to experience several adventures (or misadventures) out of body during the past 2 weeks. One by one I'll get around to posting all of them here. This is the first of those, titled,

"Road To Hell"
Friday, March 18, 2011 (OBE # 102)
   I came to astral awareness while driving along a desolate road along with my girlfriend (Barbara?). This was out in the middle of a barren land of steep hills and few trees. We were completely lost. We did have a map of the local area but had not been able to locate any landmarks.
   At one point the road went down to the bottom of a steep canyon. The landscape appeared to be the same in all directions. This was depressing as it seemed unlikely that we would be able to find a way out. We kept going and about a mile away near a hill top there was a fork in the road. It was a relief to see 2 prominent locations that were both depicted on the map.
   One landmark was a satanist church and compound which was only a few hundred yards away. A sign pointed to the other landmark - a magickal castle or estate that was about a mile distant. We decided to go to the magickal castle/estate. However, I took a right turn at the intersection instead of going left. The right turn took us into the back entrance of the satanist compound.
   This did not much concern me and I stopped at the first building in sight, a small one floor ranch-type house. We got out of the car and went inside. Nobody was there. Nobody was visible anyway.
   After a few minutes invisible spirits slowly materialized floating in midair. These spirits were, surprisingly, neither evil nor malevolent. They simply looked at us and I soon made a type of telepathic contact with them. They affirmed that the house was indeed part of the satanist compound. The church members were all human as fortunately there were no demons or hostile creatures nearby.
   We decided to wait for a doctor or professor to arrive. This was a bit confusing as I was unsure if this person was familiar to my girlfriend or if he was a member of the satanist church. (Maybe he was a doctor of theology = reverend?) Anyway the better part of an hour passed uneventfully. It began to get dark outside. We decided to wait one more hour before leaving. At this point the projection simply ended.
   Notes. Time was between 10:00 and 11:30 AM. The duration was at least 60 minutes, most probably longer. OBE # 102 the location was a BST. There was a familiar discarnate - my girlfriend. There were several unfamiliar discarnate spirits. Confusion (as to the location),  Deliberate (passive),  Emotional,  Magick,  Teleportation,  Time change (+).  Meditation (before),  Paranayama (before),  Affirmations (before), (and maybe a dream turning into an OBE.) Also practiced rope cargo net before sleep.
   Note 2. The beginning of the experience might have been a dream, I'm not sure.  Lucidity and consciousness in general were weak throughout. My outlook was mostly 'go with the flow' to see where the experience was headed. So I was reluctant to try to exert much conscious control as this might have abruptly ended the projection.

Any comments, questions or suggestions are welcome and Thanx for reading.  8-)
Grey
#731
Hallo nym-ph and welcome.

Yes, the first OBE can be an amazing life changing experience. The great thing is that the OBEs that follow the first can be even more amazing.
I look forward to reading your posts in the forums.

Regards  8-)
Grey
#732
Hallo moondreamer
First off I presume that the experience to which you refer was an on OBE or AP, yes?
While I have never encountered a net or a grid of any type I Have read an OBE account that did mention such a thing. In it the person saw a huge crisscross lattice of bright energy stretching across space above Earth. Is this description in any way similar to what you encountered? Also, did this grid/net prove to be an obstacle or barrier to you in any way??
Unfortunately I cannot now remember where this OBE report was posted but, if possible, I will find that report and post the link here.

Regards  8-)
Grey
#733
Greetings everyone
I have had one, and only one, projection into space. I here post that OBE in full.

Space Travel
Sunday, April 15, 2001 (OBE # 45)
   This was one of two astral projections. It began sometime just after sunrise. I exteriorized unconsciously and was first aware of being out of body in another (unfamiliar) bedroom. I float up to a ceiling and look down at an empty bed. I feel very good but do not know where I am.
   I want to go outside so float over to a window. Slowly and with difficulty I merge into and then go through a glass pane. In two or three minutes I am outside. I float up over a street between tall buildings in a strange city.
   Remembering my incredible dream from earlier this night I suddenly decide to travel to another (very) far-off star. I slowly fly up high into a night sky. There are not many stars visible from this location. I head off, at increasingly greater speed, to what looks to be one (of two) nearby bright stars. I have no idea how far away this star might be. After a short time of (faster than light !?!) transition through space I notice that the positions of many visible stars are slowly, yet perceptibly, shifting. Actual distinction of time here is a mostly pointless exercise.
   So, a short time later, it quite appears that I am really moving closer to those stars. In fact it very much looks as if my epic space journey is about two-thirds or three-quarters complete. Then I see a very bright light off to my right. What has happened is that I have suddenly returned into my physical body lying in bed in my apartment. It is daylight outside and I am quickly wide awake. Just minutes later I fall asleep.
   Notes. Time was about 6:30 to 6:45 AM when I started and 7:30 to 7:45 AM when I returned. Not certain which side I lay on, probably my right. Actual distance travelled through space is no more than a guess - which I estimate to be between one-half (1/2) lightyear to as many as ten (10) lightyears (and maybe more).


Regards  8-)
Grey
#734
Greetings all
I too have read several OBE accounts about a person's astral body being 'killed' while on an astral or ethereal plane. I too immediately dismissed those accounts as untrue (or impossible). After further reflection, however, I am not quite so sure.
What may happen is that, like physical death on material earth, death on an astral or an ethereal plane is simply a transition from one stage of existence to another. Perhaps some spirits must 'move on' from one astral plane to another in order to evolve. Those of you who are familiar with the Spiricon device of George Meek might remember that their spirit communicator Dr Jeffery Muellar (sp?) told them that he could only stay a short period of time near the earth bound astral plane before having to move on. So maybe this condition of needing to move on applies to most, or nearly all, spirits. If so then the death of an astral body could only be the shedding of one subtle body on one plane in order to inhabit another subtle body on another plane.

Regards  8-)
Grey
#735
Hallo Pac and welcome.
You might check out the FAQ forum here first. There's a lot of info about all types of OBE related info there. If you can't find enough info there then do a search for "OBE methods" or "OBE techniques"

Good luck  8-)
Grey
#736
Hallo the8reader and welcome.
You wrote
Quotei am getting better at it now
That's good and that's what most of us are here for -- to get better at OBEs and APs.  So you have come to the right place because the info and advice here Will help you to have more and better OBEs!

Regards  8-)
Grey
#737
Hallo taoistgemini and welcome.
You are probably right when you write that
Quote"most people leak energy"
.
Also people squander their energy on trivial and relatively meaningless activities. Sports is a very good example. I have often wondered how much energy is expended by a crowd of 50,000 people at a football game.  :-o Amazing.  :wink:

Regards  8-)
Grey
#738
Hallo djed and welcome
Sometimes the conscious and unconscious desire to have OBEs is all that is needed.Yet if that is not enough you can find many different methods for deliberately inducing an OBE here. The method that I am currently most interested in is going out of body directly from a lucid dream. But there are a lot of other options to try and see what works best for you.

Regards  8-)
Grey
#739
Hallo kelsie9000
Welcome to Astral Pulse.

Regards  8-)
Grey
#740
Hallo Dalandar and welcome.
Sometimes it takes a long time before that first OBE happens. It took me over 6 months. Stay focused and positive and eventually that first OBE Will occur.

Regards  8-)
Grey
#741
Hallo Summerlander
It appears that your first OBE was to some type of lower (or middle lower) astral plane. Those are places that, while not exactly hells, are populated by disturbed, deranged and violent beings. I have travelled to some of these areas during a few OBEs and one time was attacked by a pack of semi-wild dogs. There never seems to be any reason Why I end up at these places. Maybe every now and again each astral traveller needs to be reminded that there Is a dark side and not all is Lolve & Light.

Regards  8-)
Grey
#742
Greetings all.
I am pleased to announce that the Informal OBE Survey has been completely updated. Thanx in part to those of you who have responded to the 4 OBE Exit polls and those people who have shared their OBE stories on this (and other) websites I can now present the final survey here.
This is a very large survey with a LOT of info. So the survey has been divided into eight parts. These parts are
Part I Introductions and Sources, at  
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_out_of_body_experiences/obe_survey_report_part_1_introduction-t24896.0.html

Part II The Superphysical Locations, at  
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_out_of_body_experiences/obe_survey_report_part_2_the_locations-t24897.0.html

Part 3 Familiar Person(s) and Being(s), at  
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_out_of_body_experiences/obe_survey_report_part_3_familiar_persons-t24919.0.html

Part 4 Unfamiliar Person(s) and Being(s), at  
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_out_of_body_experiences/obe_survey_report_part_4_unfamiliar_persons_and_beings-t24920.0.html

Part 5 Notes On Phenomena, Acute Senses Through Floated, at  
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_out_of_body_experiences/obe_survey_report_part_5_a_through_f-t24931.0.html

Part 6 Notes On Phenomena, Knowledge Through Preview Event, at  
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_out_of_body_experiences/obe_survey_report_part_6_k_through_pr-t24932.0.html

Part 7 Notes On Phenomena, Psi Through Vibrations, at  
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_out_of_body_experiences/obe_survey_report_part_7_notes_psi_through_vibrations-t24957.0.html

Part 8 Miscellaneous Notes and Summary, at  
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_out_of_body_experiences/obe_survey_report_part_8_miscellaneous_notes_and_summary-t24958.0.html

The Summary of the OBE survey can also be found at
http://forums.astraldynamics.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=16173

If any of these links fail then please contact me.
Feel free to post comments, questions and/or suggestions.

Regards  8-)
Grey
#743
Greetings all.
This is the first part of the updated survey. A separate post will follow with a link to all the other parts.
Note that if anyone tries an active link and fails to connect then please contact me (by pm, email or in a forum post) and I will check that link.

Thanx   8-)
Grey
#744
Hi Rush
If you Do have the desire to go out of body then that alone could get you past the fear barrier. My advice is to read up on the various OBE methods and try a few. Find what seems most suited and what will work for you. Perhaps one method will be effective and you can deliberately induce a separation and go out of body. If not then the subconscious desire to have an OBE might result in a spontaneous OBE one night. Actually that first OBE is very likely to be purely spontaneous -- one night you might find yourself already projected out of body. If that happens you can get past the fear barrier and be able to explore your astral surroundings.

Good luck  :-)
Grey
#745
Hallo Glivre
There is a FAQ forum here. I'm not sure if the links that Xanth and Noy provided go to the FAQ. If not that would be the place to start. Then, if you still have questions (and you probably will), do a Search of the site. That will certainly result in a lot of info.

Regards
Grey
#746
Hallo dayglowdaisy
You wrote
QuoteI would ask for more experiences with the ETs and see what you get.  I find that you pretty much get what you ask for

I like your idea as it opens up a Lot of possibilities. I'm also in agreement about aliens being on Earth for a LONG time. I too have had many dream about aliens. Unfortunately I have never met any during an OBE/AP. Yet many people Have encountered aliens out of body so there is a good chance that I will too one day.

Regards  8-)
Grey
#747
Hallo Timandra
An interesting phase, thanx for sharing.
I am interesting in your intent prior to phasing. Do you set an intention to phase to a specific location? Or do you try to phase into your immediate surroundings and then travel someplace else from there?
It seems to me that phasing offers a very good opportunity to go somewhere specific as visualizations seem to be a Big part of the phasing process. So do you try to focus the visual images on a special place (maybe a familiar one) or do you allow the images to flow with no preset goal in mind?

Regards  8-)
Grey
#748
Hallo Spacemaker
To answer your question
QuoteWhile projecting, do we see what we wanna see?
the answer is yes and no. Sorry if this is confusing and contradictory but there it is. Some people will create thought forms of family and friends while out of body. Some people can even create special astral locations that are basically their own fantasy worlds.
However, I doubt that this happened in your projection. Unless you deliberately attempted to create an alien world. It appears that this was a surprise to you, yes?
SO I am curious, can you describe these aliens? Were they the typical small greys or another race?
Anyways, seeing aliens during an OBE is not as strange as you might think. Actually many people do encounter aliens and UFOs while out of body although your description of hiernating aliens Is somewhat unusual.

Regards  8-)
Grey
#749
Hallo Chips and welcome.
Your situation of being unable to go out of body despite many repeated tries is Not new here. Many other people who have joined this site had been unable to have an OBE. Yet many of those same people Were able to have an OBE a few weeks or months after becoming members here. Lets hope that you stay here awhile and 'soak up' enough info to have that first OBE.

Good luck  8-)
Grey
#750
Greetings to all
First off thanx to all who have responded.  :-)

Moondreamer, you asked
QuoteWhat does superphysical or bioenergy mean?

Examples of superphysical energies included chi, Ki, prana, mana, and kundalini.
Examples of bioenergies include seeing a person's aura, ectoplasm and bioplasm.

Regards  8-)
Grey