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Well, that was an interesting, albeit scary experience... I remember very little of it, for a very simple reason... I willfully decided to forget it. I don't know if it simply ended when I decided to do that, or whether I actually did forget.

It was a conscious exit for once... I just laid there and waited with a strong intention to remain aware, and slowly I was able to see my room through my closed eyelids... I exited without much trouble, an that's when "it" attacked...

The attack wasn't anything too "bad"... Basically it felt like standing right next to a 5 foot high speaker, like the "thing" was making me vibrate... Then I found myself in a 4-dimensional maze... It looked like an endless matrix of doors that would change into walls, or walls becoming passages to other areas as I walked towards them.

I flinched, snapped back to the body, and waited for it to go away... Then I thought "it's probably just a creation of the mind, I should just get out and ignore it."

But I was stuck... Not because of sleep paralysis, I was actually too scared to to face this fear... I don't know what it was, it felt evil.

I waited but it wouldn't go away... So I told myself "this isn't good... If I create new fears I'll undo so much of the work I've done so far... If only I could forget about this..."

And that's where the experience ended -- at least the part I can remember. It really does feel like whatever-it-was was deleted from my memory... When I visualize the scene I just remember that there was something there, but I have no idea what it looked like (though it seemed human shaped).

I wonder if this is the result of an internet argument I had yesterday... That would be pretty funny :p

Well, unfortunately the TV didn't look like that :p The size and shape were similar, but the screen was completely flat (level with the frame, not convex), and the two tower speakers were not attached to it, they were part of a surround system, separate... Symbolically speaking, I guess it's somewhat accurate (though a large TV with two speakers on either side isn't exactly a rare sight :p).

Anyway, new ""validation"" ; I dreamt that I lived with my parents and we were very poor. It was christmas morning. They had saved money for a full year to buy me a moped, it was all crummy with the paint chipping off, looked like it was about 20 years old. They apologized, saying that this was the best they could buy with one year worth of savings. I was deeply moved by the gesture, even though I didn't want or need a moped. I took it for a spin, and after a few minutes on the road, the brakes stopped responding. I tried to brake with my feet, but I crashed into the back of a bus. I was fine, the moped was in pieces though!

Well, today my mom shot me an email, she was thinking about going on a family trip to Hawaii for christmas, and that would be our christmas gift. Extremely expensive, and not really something I'd want to have. I mean, I wouldn't mind going to Hawaii with friends or a special someone... But with my parents... I don't know, I guess I'm not much of a 'family vacation' type :p Over $2000 per person on average if you count all the expenses... I'd feel guilty making them spend the year's savings for something I'm not really interested in. About as guilty as I felt in the dream when they spent all they had to buy me a broken moped.

Hey, good to hear from you, and congrats!

With healing energy, you can never send too much, it automatically goes to the parts that need it most. Though ultimately, does a newborn really need healing energy? They do have a body that is brand spanking new, after all.

On the energy body/mental sides of things, I would guess that a newborn doesn't come into this world with blockages besides possible birth trauma, and that is not something you can really do anything about. It's each person's job to seek out trauma and disconnect the negative attachments on their consciousness. It's possible that someone may heal another's trauma by going on an out of body journey with them, helping them to face their fears. But ultimately I think there needs to be a conscious intent to destroy trauma before psychological healing can occur.

Your role as a parent is more of a preventive one than a healing one as far as these blockages go.

About chakra stimulation, I would recommend that you contact Robert Bruce in the "Ask Robert" section on http://forums.astraldynamics.com ; he has several kids that exhibit phenomenal psychic potential, there's even one that has supposedly raised Kundalini by himself ; he probably has excellent advice for you.

His ex-wife Aunt Clair has posted a few things about them (here: http://forums.astraldynamics.com/viewtopic.php?t=6121), very interesting read.

http://ap.phunkploid.com/

They're not as active as they were on Jonas, but they're there :p

TalaNay, pics pics pics pics!!

Exactly one year since my first OBE!

15 OBEs

50-odd sleep paralysis episodes

A handful of lucid dreams

Dozens of controlled non-lucid dreams

Hundreds of dreams recalled

A handful of far fetched theories

And one brand new outlook on life.

Thanks for everything guys! Probably wouldn't have made it if I hadn't found these forums!

EDIT: Actually it's tomorrow, but I'm exhausted, and I couldn't wait :p

http://edition.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/africa/03/15/koinange.africa/index.html

I don't know whether to laugh or cry.

To a devout muslim, drinking alcohol is more dangerous in the grand scheme of things than shoving his arm into a meat grinder.

It's not about respecting invisible rules, it's about not rotting in hell for all eternity. When someone believes in heaven and hell, they don't have a choice but to respect the rules their religion set forth, because it's the whole purpose of their life. You can't throw it all away after many years of "doing the good thing" ; your desert example would be a "final test" of sorts.


About the question of morals, yes, it's all created by humans (or god, if you're religious). Take something simple like marrying a cousin. There's plenty of countries where doing so is absolutely fine. It may be regarded as weird, but not morally wrong. In the US if you ever mention it, it's like it's the grossest thing you could ever do after bestiality, it's incest!

Ethics (and laws) are set forth by groups of people, who mutually agree on what is acceptable and what is not. That's pretty much all there is to it.

You may be wondering if there is such a thing as a universal law, some kind of set of rules that must be followed in the entire universe, both physical and non-physical. Maybe there is... I personally haven't found any evidence that it is the case, though...

Would you happen to have pictures of the inside of your house? I'm interested in seeing if the TV and fireplace look anything like the dream! (they were clearly in the same room over there though :p)

Haha, I just had a weird projection... My trying-to-project body was elastic, I could move away from the physical but my legs stayed attached to the body, it looked like I was pulling apart a piece of chewed gum, my body was desintegrating!

As I was pulling away, I said "no! no! Let me go out! Damn! I need to see the desk! Show me the desk! TalaNay's desk!"

And I went into dream world as soon as I said that... Had two huge dreams, but I didn't get to see your desk :p I did find myself in a place I had never seen before... A big room with blue walls and white tiles on the floor... then I went into a living room with wooden walls, a large fireplace, a white, square rug in the center, a really large TV with two large speaker tower-things on either side, a bunch of boxes with anime characters on them containing two VHS tapes each... Then I was in this town where I noticed all the street signs were deep red with white text... Suburbian trains passed by right in the middle of the city, just under street level but still exposed to sunlight... I had a job in that dream, even had a girlfriend. Shouldn't have woken up! Lol!

  Nope, that isn't it.  Shall I end the pain and just tell?

Nononono!! I still want a shot at it!

You're asking a christian to choose whether or not to abort a kid on the 8th month... Did you really expect him to choose?

This morning I dreamt that I was with my parents in a house I didn't know, and the house had webcams in every room. When I woke up, I went on the computer and saw that my mom had tried to start a video conversation on MSN while I was asleep.

I went to a friend's house to do a school project... While we were working, I noticed that her webcam's "record" light was on. I don't know if she was recording us or what... Webcams don't usually have their light on unless they're recording... Maybe it was just the "on" light and I was being paranoid :p

Webcams, webcams, webcams. :O

Well... I highly doubt that the Bible code can be perceived as a subliminal message by the brain. I don't know if you've actually read the book, or seen diagrams... That's just not something the brain picks up...

But even if it were possible, since the code was found in the Hebrew bible, there's just no way it's present in translated versions.

I also wouldn't trust the Bible code at all, since it predicted an "atomic holocaust" for 2006 ; we probably wouldn't be here talking about this if it had happened...

the point i was making is this if the code exists in a hugly influential book "could" it sub-conciously cause people to manifest this world for hundreds of years

I see what you mean... But hrmm... Out of all the people who read the bible, how many read it in Hebrew? Right now, the jewish population is about a ten-thousandth of the world's population, and there are more Jews now than there ever were (even before World War two).

Subtract from that all those who don't speak Hebrew....
Then subtract all those who never read the bible in Hebrew...

Do you really think such a tiny portion of the world population subjected to these "subliminal messages" (which were so hard to find they needed computers to find them) could be the reason for the way the world is now?

I wouldn't be able to tell you... I don't subscribe to any of the phasing models beyond Focus 12... Frank's model makes sense, but it's too arbitrary, and the same data could be interpreted in many different ways that would be just as valid.

Focus 12 is pretty much the launching pad... From there, there's no limit to what you can do ; it's all about willpower and open-mindedness.

I would agree that religion impedes on human progress, but I'm not sure I understand:

- The connection between the bible code and the rest of the post (trading and currency existed before the bible, bible code wasn't discovered until the 20th century, and of course, statistically, you can find "hidden messages" in any book that's large enough using those methods)
- The connection between jews and banking (wasn't that originally Nazi propaganda?)

If I understand the difference between 10 and 12, I would say it's the difference between light trance and deep trance.

When you're asleep, you're always somewhat alert... There's a part of your mind that is "listening" ; it's the part of you that will hear sounds, and wake you up if something threatening happens, the part of your mind that will hear the alarm in the morning. You will inevitably be in focus 10 for a while... The most noticeable part is when you're waking up naturally, you'll be in trance while your mind judges whether it's time to get up or not.

"Mind awake, body asleep" is a very accurate way to put it.

The transition from 10 to 12 seems to follow from actual intent. You go from half-unconsciousness, darkness, the inability to perceive time, to "mind-activity." Instead of shifting out of focus 10 and going into focus 1 or 3, you push forward and go deeper. Instead of using muscles to move, you use thought. Instead of opening your eyes to look around, you sense your surroundings. This very faint, subtle part of you is perceiving the non-physical environment, and you shift focus into it.

You're right, there is no real technique... It's really all about discovering the existence of a part of you that's always been there, but covered up by the physical self, and using it. Just like you'd use your muscles to lift your hand up or down, you can dwelve deeper into the state or away from it. Intention, rather than electrical pulses through nerves, is what will provoke this movement.

You just do it... Let go of common sense, which tells you that it's impossible, and just rush through...

There's something about windows though... Lots of reports that going through a window is hard, that you get stuck there, that it's better to go through walls... It happened to me too, I was literally on both sides of the window at the same time, stuck there... I don't know why that is... It's like how you can activate light switches, see them move from off to on, hear the click, but the light (typically) won't turn on... It does seem that there's weird quirks that are common to everyone, but I'm sure a little willpower can make them go away.

As for the groggy feeling, perhaps the reason you became aware in your sleep was because you weren't sleeping well (bad position, bad breathing, etc) and so your projection was cut short because the body wasn't comfortable...

Now, if your consciousness resides outside of your body, then I would think anesthesiology would cause you to go OBO almost by default.  Your body winds up drugged, your consciousness gets catapulted free prior to phasing into dreamland.

The fact that this does not occur makes me wonder if we are merely exploring our own physical mind during AP / OBE, etc.  If *that* is the case, does our consciousness reside IN the body?  Does it expire at physical death?

Actually, it does occur. It does occur even when we go to sleep every night... The thing is, we identify very much with the physical body, to such an extent that we follow the body into sleep and go idle.

I don't think we ever go completely unconscious. The mind is always aware to a certain extent. Every noise or disturbance around you while asleep is analyzed, weighed for potential danger or importance, and treated appropriately. People undergoing an operation will often hear the doctors talking to each other while anesthetized. In much the same way, when I experimented with alarms, I noticed that I would wake up at every alarm, in deep trance, and instead of attempting an OBE, I would stay asleep -by choice- with little memory of even waking up.

I think it all comes down to memory... You really can't have a blank period, no matter what happens. As soon as the physical dozes off, the non-physical (or the subconscious) has to come to the foreground. The non-physical is rarely aware that it is not remembering things, it is always in a state of pure bliss, with no worries that what it's witnessing has any importance.

Imagine having no memory, to such an extent that you can't even remember what you're doing right now -- that's how "dumb" the subconscious is, until you tame it and make it record through sheer intention.

Anyone else playing mega millions tonight?

I gave my dad numbers that I got while in trance... I hope there'll be a pleasant validation :p

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In regards to what you said... Well, I don't usually stimulate the upper chakras, so it's probably not from energy work... But yeah, symptoms tend to wear off after a few days, by themselves... As far as I'm concerned, I go to sleep and it usually straightens itself out by the time I wake up...

... Unless it's the place of his gruesome death

EDIT: In other news, I dreamt that I shot a fireworks rocket into my neighbors' house which landed on their microwave and blew up the whole house... My sister dreamt that she was at my aunt's house and their neighbors' house blew up too. We described the explosion to each other. I saw two white columns of smoke going up, she saw a nuclear explosion...

An excerpt from George Adamski's book, "Inside the Spaceships" where he shares his conversations with aliens.

Here, George is aboard a Venusian spaceship listening to a being called "The Master":

I understood clearly all that this great teacher of other worlds was saying, but a question
entered my mind. I wondered how they viewed killing for food, if they did kill, or even
consuming fruit and vegetables, since these too were living in their own form of expression.
And as always, the answer came without my speaking.
"There is nothing illogical in this, my son. When you eat a lettuce leaf, it becomes a part of
you, does it not? As a result, from then on it begins to experience things with you. So what
you have actually done is to transmute one form into your own form. Had this not been the
case, the lettuce leaf would have matured, then gone to seed in order to replenish its own kind
again, and that would have been its total experience. But by serving you, it has been elevated
to a higher service through you.
"Motive also enters into this principle. If your motive is to destroy or injure or exploit, then it
is wrong. But if your motive embraces the service you can render another form by bringing it
up to your standard, through you, then it is right. For you are really transmuting a mineral
from one state to another that it may be of still greater service. In doing this, you are acting
according to the law of growth or development, ofttimes called 'evolution' in your world.
This is the law of your Creator.
"The people of your world make much of form—disintegration—not realizing the law of
elevation, because they have begun to think that the form is all there is. But the form is only a
channel through which life, or intelligence, expresses. All-Inclusive Intelligence cannot
express through a lettuce leaf. So the lettuce leaf must be transmuted by gradual stages into a
higher form through which to express greater service. That is the way it is rewarded.
"When this law is fully accepted and lived by your Earth men as it has been accepted and
lived by inhabitants of other planets and systems, the atmospheric conditions of Earth will be
sweetened. For every form will then give off joyous radiations from itself that will permeate
the air within which mankind lives.

A bunch of pipes, magnets, water and a microwave oven? I'm on it!