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My bet is that if you were good enough to alter the physical on that kind of a scale you wouldn't be here in the first place. This world and those actions would be a waste of your time.

If your just going along with the dream and not changing anything, then it means you're not aware enough to invoke intent. When you can muster up enough intent to scream "I'M IN CONTROL!!!" in your dream (or rubbing your hands or whatever works for you), you're good to go. Personally, I like to scream and announce to the dream world that I'm the king.

Every couple years or so I make a thread asking people to list their top 10 favorite movies - I think you can learn a lot about a person by the types of films they gravitate towards. My top 10 constantly changes, though there are always a few that never leave. As of now:

1 - Easy Rider
2 - Chungking Express
3 - Resurrect Dead
4 - Fight Club
5 - Last Tango in Paris
6 - Dawn of the Dead (original Romero version)
7 - Exit through the Gift Shop
8 - Kikujiro
9 - Vanishing Point (original version)
10 - Brazil

These are just the first 10 favorites to come to mind in no particular order.

I absolutely LOVE pinball. I know most people think it's a simple game of chance, but for me it's an awesome mix of computers, mechanics, physics, artwork, anticipation, & reflexes. There's nothing else like it. Getting caught up in a good game becomes a zen experience. A favorite:



I do a lot of classic gaming too, but pinball is greater for me.

I also really enjoy working out/lifting weights. I used to hate running, but over the past couple years I've come to enjoy it. I go biking and hiking in the north Georgia Appalachians several times a year.

And art. I'm currently expanding my capabilities.

I spend a lot of time outdoors, and this year I've gotten into gardening and beautifying my yard. I'm looking forward to next spring.

I'm also a movie buff, and now would be a good time for one of my movie threads...

Life isn't about being happy 24/7. That's escaping the reality of life, which has it's ups and downs. Succeeding in something that is very hard, while incorporating the willpower to stay on course and not be temped by passing things that only have short-term effects has a satisfaction to it that can't be matched. You become a better and more whole person.

The sad thing is that there are people who click on these spam links. They wouldn't exist if they didn't work. Now if you'll excuse me, I have to go subscribe to People magazine and invest in Coca-Cola.

I have a cousin who can become a very violent sleepwalker when he's going through stressful times. He'll act out all kinds of crazy situations and you can't wake him up. You just have to do your best to convince him to get back in bed. He'll interact with you, but it's obvious he's seeing and experiencing something completely different. He took my aunt down to the basement once and told her it was the beach, and he was walking around and kicking sand in the air and splashing in waves that weren't really there.

What if the truth is really a lie about another truth that is also another lie that leads to a truth that happens to really be a lie?

I think until you find your conclusion you just have to trust your intuition while remaining healthily skeptical. What other option is there?

The short version: Life majorly sucked. I hated life and was anti-everything... punk-rock and anarchy was my philosophy. I ditched school, had time on my hands, and started becoming interested in meditation and new-age stuff on my own and started reading TONS of books, found some material by Rudolph Steiner, went to work on myself and changed my perception. I still love punk.

Even shorter: Hated life, fixed it.

Waiting won't get you anywhere, and it's boring, which definitely won't help. All kinds of weird sensations can happen in the process, so do your best to roll with it and not analyze it too much. It's best to have some sort of focus or exercise to keep you passively aware without thinking and analyzing about what's happening. The more you experience these sensations, the more normal they'll become and you won't hardly notice them. It's more about shifting your consciousness than feelings at this stage.

If I'm in bed after a non-physical experience, when I lie there I almost always have some sort of image/vision that might remain after I've opened my eyes, though it's very realistic, not like an afterimage. I've seen all types of weird stuff: landscapes, walls, ceilings, china dolls, exit signs, the sky, strangers, a fireplace mantle, digital clocks... it's never really anything exciting or helpful. I've always thought of it as a small part of my awareness that's still perceiving on the astral level.

To do it in a direct way, I would guess there are a number of paths of initiation that take you through the steps in a somewhat practical way. A less direct approach: live virtuously. Push past your ego.

I once had a very "mystical" experience that I simply asked for (honestly, I don't know how or why it worked). And I got more than I bargained for. Perception forever changed.

Guess what happens when everyone stops thinking?  We all become the same thing.

That explains a lot about the world today 

The way I see it our being is completely tied into all levels of consciousness at all times. While our awareness is on the level of physical, our subconscious is active on the astral level, and is also being influenced at the mental level. Everything from "up above" flows to "down below"... as occultists say "as above, so below". And as long as we're locked in an ego, it's a matrix type situation. Our perception of things is completely tied into our reality - change your perception, change your reality, until you finally break through to what's "real", which I would say is pure consciousness before/without any manifestation.

I was always intrigued with Frank's concepts of chakras. He was trying to do independent research and stayed away from new-age and religious concepts, yet he would often talk about his "energy centers" and how they would react with each other during different situations. He talked about "firing off" his heart center just for the feelings it would produce. Then later he said he wouldn't talk about them anymore because he felt they were too tied up with more new-age and mystical concepts he was trying to stay away from.

Whether or not there is some sort of a tether, the idea of a "silver cord" comes from Ecclesiastes 12:6

"Remember him--before the silver cord is severed, or the golden bowl is broken; before the pitcher is shattered at the spring, or the wheel broken at the well"

It's biblical symbolism.

It's simply oneness... everything is experienced as a single consciousness. It can't really be explained, only experienced. I would say if you want to get symbolic about it, it's a union with God.

I'm not sure about the conversation of the holy gaurdian angel... I'm only vaguely familiar with Rosicrucianism. Maybe it's similar to the "Guardian of the Threshold"?

That's just a bible verse. It's not a great source for OBE information.

Chakras are a no-brainer to me, because I experience them directly and am even surprised when people say they've never felt them. It's unmistakable for me. The first time my heart chakra went crazy was before I had ever heard of chakras. It was later I was able to associate it.

I don't to crystals, don't know much about them, but also don't deny they could have some subtle effects. Even the Monroe institute has some sort of idea on crystals and apparently has a giant one there and "there".

For me vibrations start around the heart/chest, but it quickly goes full-body. I've never had them isolated to one spot, nor have I ever experienced any kind of pain with them. Maybe an uncomfortable non-physical pressure, but not pain.

Also, any uncomfortable feelings I would get went away after doing simple energy work... it was like distributing the pressure evenly around my body so everything was balanced.

I was once told by someone who used to have debilitating panic attacks that the way they got over them (as told to them by their psychiatrist), was once they felt it coming on they were supposed to try to make it happen themselves, try to force a panic attack on, and then it would lessen and eventually go away. And after a while it stopped coming up altogether.

I can't say this will work, but thought I should pass it on. I will send some good vibes your way Cody.

You can't cram every needed physical experience in one lifetime. Of the infinite number of types of humans/personalities and their relationship to the physical world, one incarnation is way too limited. You'd be much more well rounded having a number of experiences from a number of different perspectives that conglomerate as part of a single being.

The "niburu" people were just one group in the whole 2012 thing. I don't think the mayans said anything about a returning planet/spaceship... that was Sitchin's (mis)interpretation, along with people who are trying to connect things that have no relationship to each other.

So even without niburu, 2012 will live on. There is way too much invested in it now. People will claim it was a peak in a slow shift we passed through and we're on the other side now, and find a way to connect it to future prophecies made up from ancient civilizations. 100 years from now someone will be preaching about the shift we went through back in 2012. It's never ending until the world really ends. And then someone will have gotten it right for once.

I think the majority of what is mentioned on the forum are self-projected things, as most experiences here are lower-astral experiences where you experience your subconscious objectively.

But that doesn't mean that's always the case. Saying everything is a subconscious projection isn't correct. Non-physical, non-human beings exist. I also think the subconscious can exaggerate something small into something huge, so it can be a bit of both simultaneously.

Lay on the floor... don't lay on the floor... use a mattress... don't use a mattress... create and image... don't create an image... say it in your head.... don't say it in your head... say this... say that... AP in the morning... AP at night... AP in the middles of the night... expect... don't expect...

Does anyone see something here?

I'm so glad I discovered OOBEs by myself sometimes.

I agree - it's tricky figuring this out, there are so many tips and styles, and so many people doing different things claiming success. I think in the end everyone has to discover it by themselves. You can get tips and tricks - what to do, what not to do - but you really have to just practice and put in work. Just do it, and do it, and do it. Make it a part of your life, whether it's strictly meditating or only classic OBE attempts.

Maybe everyone is different in what they need. I know for a fact that I need heavy discipline. If I wasn't hard on myself and didn't take it 100% seriously, I wouldn't get far (keep in mind AP never came naturally to me). As I get older, the more disciplined I become, and the discipline definitely pays off. But some people would completely crack under my regimen and might do better off with a more free-flow style... I really don't know, that's why I say just get motivated to practice. Don't know what you're doing?... then sit still and don't do anything other than "observe". I'm convinced that anyone can take that one tip and eventually figure it all out on their own with no further assistance.

As far as what time I practice: In the morning between 7-8 am, and in the evening around 5-6 pm.