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#76
I'm a little confused. Is this the same as The Tibetan Book Of The Dead:?

I am currently reading that...
#77
I like this theory. But it would mean my body is trying to die, or my soul escape...or else every disease I've come down with (while untreated) wouldn't have caused me to starve...

With both conditions the outcome of the damage would have been starving to death. And the cause of that damage is my own immune system attacking my own cells...I think I have thought of a similar theory before. That must be why I like it.  :-)

I think sometimes my body can't handle the energy of my soul. I know it's old...but sometimes I wonder if many of us are just spiritual giants crammed into vessels too small. It would explain why some of the greatest people came apart at the seams. I hope I'm not near that great.
#78
Welcome to Astral Consciousness! / Re: Herbs in the AP
September 26, 2007, 04:02:37
I do not enjoy the astral cottonmouth.
#79
Oh and...
I'm not saying the diet isn't healthy.
I'm just saying it is not a cure for type 1 diabetes.

And I must tell you as I age, I experience even more joy. More than most people. It's a joy that is uncompromised by disease. That is something to strive and hope for. Happiness is the universal solution. You might call me divorced from reality too :wink: just in my own way.
#80
Quote from: Mez on September 25, 2007, 19:07:33


So it seems to me a possibility that if raw vegan food does not contain the autoimmune trigger for diabetes (or at least a lot less of it) and the pancreas is still functional to a degree that the body will be able to repair it.


No...I wish. The body cannot replace or repair islet cells without stem cell therapy. A strange thing was discovered last year or the year before...and that was that while most organs in the body have stem cells within them to regenerate damaged cells, the pancreas does not. Which is why it does not repair itself. But also, the perpetual barrage of fighter T cells damages them even if they are transplanted back into the pancreas...The former islet cells, if reintroduced, will still be persecuted by the immune system, which is a very complex thing. They do not ever "grow" back.

Nobody knows why people become autoimmune. But there are 100 theories out there. One is that while gestating, a mother may transfer cells to the baby which disorient the child's immune system.

Another is that there is a viral infection which mimics the structure of cells in the body, causing the immune system to attack both the virus and host...(I accept this one as most believable).

Some suggest children are over-immunized and that this warps the immune system into becoming autoimmune.

It is not something in food. Because people have been getting type 1 since ancient times. There are records that describe type 1 to a T. Most people then had very dissimilar diets compared with what is normal now. So food is out. Poor diet is absolutely never the cause of type 1 diabetes. It isn't even an accepted theory in the medical community. I can promise you that.

.....When I was first diagnosed actually, my Endocrinologist told me how heart broken a family was when their 11 year old boy (who had always been on a raw vegan diet, vegetables that they even grew themselves) was diagnosed with type 1 diabetes. They even waited a bit too long. They waited until he went into Ketoacidosis, because they just couldn't come to terms with the fact that something went wrong. But they finally got a grip and took him in to the hospital where he was treated for Ketoacidosis.

I should have mentioned that story before I began writing a novel in this thread.  :-P


#81
You sense nothing. Your sense of my attachment is an automatic response to your lack of understanding.
I am free, but I just have to correct you...so that someone doesn't come in here and get hurt or very sick by trying this. You do not understand...someone who believes there is a miracle like this around the corner for every person is divorced from reality.

It only takes 10 seconds to take your insulin...it isn't an ordeal. Believe me, I poke my butt a few times a day. It's not a big deal. Easier than remembering to take your vitamins. Synthetic insulin works as it should and it is only harmful when someone does not know how to properly use it. And to take it if they do not naturally produce it any longer.

Synthetic insulin does not deteriorate the body. :lol: That is so ridiculous. :lol:
The lack of insulin...will, however, deteriorate the body because it is a necessary hormone needed to metabolize all food, raw or cooked...I'm telling you...Within 8 months 95% of Type 1 Diabetics make absolutely no insulin. The immune system destroys the cells in the pancreas that create it and continues to destroy them until they are gone. This is because they are not differentiated (by the T cells) from foreign cells. And they do not grow back. There is no insulin in the body that could even be used to metabolize raw foods.

What would happen (to a type 1 diabetic on a raw food diet in conjunction with taking absolutely no insulin) is the blood sugar would elevate over time...exponentially. Then the type 1 would -- because type 1's are very prone to it -- suffer from Diabetic Ketoacidosis. Which DOES deteriorate the body. Both muscle and fat begin to waste. They call it "decay" when this happens to a diabetic. It can reach a dangerous point in just a day. It can come out of nowhere and worsen rapidly. If untreated (e.g., no insulin or IV fluids are administered) the condition is fatal. It would happen to any true type 1 diabetic who stopped taking insulin no matter how nutritious their diet was. There is no food that can be metabolized without insulin.

The decision Sergei's mother made for him was completely unfounded and abusive. She lacked education. And nowdays, her son would have been taken away from her if social services knew she would deny him insulin therapy. Flat out, this young man and the "diabetics" in these "studies" never were diabetic or they would be dead. It's all a work of fiction. If I ever spoke to a mother making this kind of decision for her diabetic child I would call social services immediately.

I'm just glad my common sense isn't compromised by a bunch of greedy frauds selling fairy tales...but for some it might be. No one who is, likes being diabetic...but they have to take their insulin to live, or else.

Really, you must read The Discovery Of Insulin. Check the local library. A semi-large library will carry it.
#82
Okay. Don't believe me, but I've had diabetes for 5 years. You should trust in my knowledge because I am a qualified authority in that I come from experience.

I'd bet anyone a million dollars a raw vegan diet would not cure type 1 diabetes for anyone, that's how confident I am this is all a ruse to sell books and make money. Oh and by the way if they still need to take insulin of course they are NOT cured!  :-P That's just my thoughts on the matter. I am a diabetic, and from personal experience, taking little or no insulin no matter what you are eating...is an incredibly dangerous and bad idea.

And there is no way to reverse autoimmunity. Anyone, even with an MD, doesn't know what they are talking about if they claim absolutely there is. A brilliant doctor will claim uncertainty...a foolish one will just make claims. A brilliant doctor knows better than that.

PS
Mez,
I also have Celiac Disease. It is the most painful thing I've ever felt in my life (if I accidentally eat gluten). I'd say it's just as bad as diabetes, if not worse during episodes following accidental ingestion. :-(
#83
I'm not sure when they were constructed and if they are pertanent to the topic, but the monoliths on Easter Island are the neatest.  :-D
#84
Quote from: Mez on September 24, 2007, 02:40:48
I read somewhere the results of an experiment conducted where they put people with diabetes (type II im assuming) on a vegan diet and something like 90% of them no longer had to inject insulin after about 30 days on the diet. Dont qoute me on any of that but thats what i read.


Mez, Melody,

Most type 2's don't inject insulin. Only a small percent do. Less than 25% of them eventually actually need it, but for the most part their issue is not a lack of insulin, it is a lack of sensitivity to insulin (insulin resistance). Anyway, most are on pills to treat their condition, and very low carb diets can reverse their disease if they are 100% dedicated. Type 2 is almost exclusively treated with pills and diet alone. While type 1's use insulin exclusively and have more freedom when eating.

But for a type 1 diabetic (what this Sergei kid is/was) the condition cannot be reversed...period. Because what happens to a type 1 is absolute destruction of the islet cells until the pancreas no longer produces insulin...a hormone that no one can live without. The destruction is caused by the immune system basically going haywire and attacking the bodies own cells. So fundamentally, type 1 and type 2 are two different diseases and there needs to be constant differentiation between the two.

You cannot "bounce back" from type 1. Once diagnosed, you've got it for life. It is not curable, only treatable. Sometimes that escapes people. Because type 1 is nowhere near as severe as something like cancer...but as for which is more curable, cancer wins in a landslide. As of right now there is no cure that the general diabetic public has access to. I'm sure there are cures they are working on, but getting funding and approval for clinical trials on human beings is near impossible.

So anyway, the types, they only share the same name.
My pancreas is dead, Melody. It just takes up space in my abdomen. It lives here, but it refuses to pay it's portion of the rent :-P I did not get diabetes because of poor dietary decisions. I have it because my chromosomes...(something immutable) predisposed me to have my immune system destroy my pancreas. NO DIET can fix that. Only insulin can fix it. And insulin is not a drug although a drug company manufactures it. It is a necessary hormone. Basically all type 1's are on hormone therapy and do need to be...insulin is irreplaceable and totally impossible to live without. It is also an inelastic demand and you better believe pharmaceuticals take advantage of us to the fullest.  :-( Still, the disease itself is what needs focus, there is no choice on the matter. I cannot boycott Eli Lilly because they're evil, it would be insane and asinine of me. I know better. I know best. I take insulin or I die, quite painfully. And it is that simple. As simple as survival...the fact that these corporate beasts are money hungry and disgusting is actually beside the point when you need something in order to live.

Before there was insulin they used to treat diabetics with all kinds of diets back in the early 1900's. No diet enabled any diabetic to live longer than 3 years. They went into a coma and they died. Which is what would happen to a type 1 diabetic nowdays if they didn't or couldn't take their insulin. Type 1 diabetes without insulin has a higher mortality rate than the worst types of cancer. It is 100% fatal. Basically you starve first, and then you go into Ketoacidosis, then you go into a coma, and if you're not in a hospital within the next 24-48 hours...you die.

If you want to learn more about why we need insulin, there is this great book called, The Discovery Of Insulin. It covers everything I am trying to explain here. I can't argue points on behalf of the other diseases a raw vegan diet may improve...but I can assure you that a raw vegan diet would not cure a type 1 diabetic. Otherwise all my friends would have tried it and been cured. That website is deceiving to the point that it is actually malicious.

And you don't have to trust pharmaceuticals...I know I don't. I'm not saying you should.
But trust me...type 1 diabetes doesn't go away. Autoimmunity does not go away. I'm in this for life. I don't want to be and I wouldn't if I would have found a way by now...But DNA, unfortunately, is immutable and at this point in time medical science lacks a genetic makeover that would fix it. I am somehow supposed to be this way. But instead of seeking endlessly a way out...I'm beginning to understand and accept instead. It isn't at all like being defeated. This is the kind of thing that gets you off your butt and inspires you to do something to help others. It doesn't hold me back. Otherwise I'd have taken a sick day, I'd have moped in bed at times. But I don't do that...ever. At the same time if I read about something that purports to cure me, I'm going to do my own extensive research to find out whether or not it is so. And it's actually upsetting, that these things are never as good as they sound. EVER.  :-P And sometimes, it is pure lies, flat out. Remoresless money making schemes, just like a bloody pharmaceutical company...

Actually, I don't trust anything with a $...no one should. And I see dollar signs on their website...
#85
I've seen things that will happen to my future incarnation. I'm very confident that's what I am seeing, because I feel so at home as this other person. So technically the future...and that's one reason why I know the world doesn't end in 2012.  :-P
#86
Another thing that could have happened is that he was misdiagnosed diabetic and that is why they are not having issues.

Either way, I don't see this son in the picture...


***Scratch that I found a picture of him...And a quote...
"I know that the active lifestyle that I live today would not have been possible to live had I had diabetes."

...Again, misleading, absolute BS. After reading their website, it's easy to see they really are just trying to make money. They want to convince people they cannot live normally with diabetes...just to sell their book. Sad. You can do just about anything if you have diabetes.

-Gary Hall Jr: US olympic gold medalist in swimming (who I have met, he does not seem inactive to me!)
-Scott Coleman: Swimmer - first man with diabetes to swim the English Channel, (August 17th 1996)
-Kris Freeman: Olympic and National Champion Cross-Country Skier (heard him speak at a diabetes conference, he said he wondered if his diabetes actually gave him an edge on others...)
-Jonathan Hayes: NFL - Pittsburgh Steelers, Kansas City Chiefs
-Chris Jarvis - World Champion Canadian Rower
Zippora Karz: Prima Ballerina (met her too) of the New York City Ballet
-Sir Steven Redgrave: Rower and winner of five consecutive Olympic gold medals
Ty Cobb: MLB: Detroit Tigers
-Ron Santo: MLB - Chicago Cubs legend
-James "Buster" Douglas: Heavy Weight Boxer
-Chris Dudley: NBA - New York Knicks center


#87
Quote from: melody on November 13, 2006, 10:16:28


Victoria has cured her son's diabetes, her daughter's asthma and a number of ailments she and her husband had with raw vegan food.
Victoria's website:  http://www.rawfamily.com

Another site of interest: http://www.thegardendiet.com


It does not cure diabetes. It only nearly eliminates the need for insulin, because fruit and vegetables are limited in carbohydrate content...all human beings need both insulin and carbohydrates in order to live. Her son is still a diabetic if he is type 1. And I can guarantee you he still takes insulin if that is the case. I am a type 1 diabetic, with informal training as an educator. There is no cure at this moment except for islet cell transplantation into the pancreas and the obligatory immuno-suppressants that follow...and even then, you still end up needing insulin again...

If he was a type 2 it is possible it cured him. But if he was a type 1 (which is vastly more common in children) he is not cured. It should be specified by you before posting this which type of diabetes he has/had. Because otherwise this information is a danger to those with type 1 diabetes without the proper education (a common issue even within North America). Specification of diabetes type is imperative when presenting the general public with any health information regarding its treatment.

The biology and metabolism of a type 1 (or juvenile) diabetic reacts a bit differently than a normal person when deprived of insulin and carbohydrates. The complication known as Diabetic Ketoacidosis (not to be confused with Ketosis) is a life threatening disorder and results when the body lacks insulin to metabolize carbohydrates with.

So Victoria's son is either type 2, or type 1 and still taking some insulin...or he is dead or dying right now.

I don't mean to come off like I am attacking you, Melody, you haven't done anything wrong. You have simply been deceived. This is just the truth, and I want everyone to know it...whether they're diabetic or not, considering a raw vegan diet or not...





#88
Hopefully one day time as we know it does end...but we persevere.
I can promise you, all life won't come to an end in 2012.
#89
Something I find myself studying when I have an OBE is death and reincarnation. Other mysteries in the world do not matter to me as much. In my mind the basis of life is death and reincarnation, nothing else is anywhere near as important.
#90
That's a silly statement. It could be considered a cult if you weren't welcome to leave anytime if you don't like it. But you are. :-P lol.
#91
I'm glad I don't ever feel vibrations.  :-P
I've felt them in my hands once while I was already out. That's it. I don't think they're necessary by any means...they're more like a "possible symptom" of AP. Though I suppose it can serve as an indicator...
#92
Nope, it's not iron. It's not that kind of anemia. The kind I have is caused by a lack of B12 and or folic acid. I'll bet it's the folic acid, because I take enough B12. I just hope it's not the beginnings of pernicious anemia...one of my great grandmothers had that   :|
#93
And test results show I'm anemic.  :-P
#94
Quote from: Scarlet on August 15, 2007, 21:01:22
I always had trouble working out exactly what my moral stance was on eating meat (except in respect to the treatment of the animals).

Although I didn't feel comfortable eating all meat I didn't see it as wrong in nature.

What I've decided in recent years is that if I would be comfortable killing the animal on my plate myself for food (in the way that it was killed) then it's morally OK for me to eat it. Otherwise it would be immoral for me to do so.

Many, however, would be more comfortable just avoiding all meat, as this approach involves a lot more thought (which can be a little unsettling when you're just trying to order a sandwhich!).

Scarlet

I like what Scarlet had to say. And I'd also like to share my own thoughts...

In the past few months I've almost completely (and unintentionally I might add) stopped eating meat due to dietary restrictions and lack of cooking skills. I eat it less than once a week. I have definitely lost weight  :-P if it wasn't for the cheese, ice cream and yogurt I'd probably be under 100 pounds right now (it even seems like going vegan, for me, would be suicide). I don't care how much or how little I weigh. Not a concern. But what's interesting is I could cut out that last tiny fraction of meat, easily...Only cutting down on meat hasn't made me feel like a better person. All I have is testimony that it makes you feel like a better person, but I don't think it's something that would make me feel more pure or goodhearted than I already do.
I just don't need to alter much about who I am. I'm sorry if any of this offends anyone. Try not to be offended, I'm just content with myself and what good I already do. It's really a positive thing.

But for the record, vegetarianism is very doable.
Going vegan requires a special sort of discipline...and a metabolism that is not flawed. Many people think it works universally...it does not. Though I would die without my yogurt either way. :-)
#95
Welcome to Astral Chat! / Re: subtle racism
September 08, 2007, 20:07:36

In any situation, just remember to smile at everyone...it makes a negative assumption more difficult to process. There are simple things you can do that naturally disarm people.
#96
I have believed and always said I was reincarnated since I was two years old. It's not so much a belief as much as it is a feeling I have every second of every single day. I don't require much confirmation beyond that, there is no question...though I am reading the Bhagavad Gita, but only because it makes me happy. No texts, modern or ancient are perfect or absolute.

The western world is not completely materialistic, there are plenty of spiritual people here, mixed in. And even so, it's not such an offense to derive joy from things. The persuit, I think, is joy that is achieved unselfishly. That makes the most sense. I personally derive joy from things that I create, it's my nature, to deny that would be a greater error.

#97
Welcome to Astral Chat! / Re: subtle racism
September 06, 2007, 13:55:31
Overt racism is far less common these days. Unfortunately there are many different kinds of racism (symbolic, structural, etc),  and as a whole it is just as pervasive as it ever was. It has just changed -- evolved actually -- to fit in better with society today. It is simply more ellusive...so much to the point that most of the time racists have no idea they are racists.
#98
Welcome to Dreams! / insects....
July 31, 2007, 20:26:05
...eating holes in the palms of my hands...three dreams, three nights in a row.
Have at it, what do you think it means besides nothing  :-P
#99
That's a pretty stupid reason for a banning.

I used to be a member on a health message board where moderators banned senior citizens for trying to share their email addresses. Yes, banned them in their loneliest chapter of life. They were real something-er-others there.
#100
Welcome to Astral Chat! / Re: River Phoenix
May 17, 2007, 17:18:13
I was just telling my mom the other day that I didn't really care much for him.  :-P Growing up I liked him Explorers, more so in Stand By Me...but now I see Corey Feldman is what it's all about.