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Like I said, I have to rely on whatever wit and charm I can muster.

Like AP, persistence is key.

How can a church... who believes in an omnipresent super-galactic being who listens and judges every living soul on the planet, drinks the blood of his zombie son and eats his flesh, believes this son came from a virgin...  possibly claim that someone who follows their beliefs hasn't got a mental health problem?

Bada-bing-bam-boo. (don't ask)

I think Lion is saying that all of our NPR experiences are a trip to school since there is always something to learn each time. That's how I see it anyway. I have read several accounts now, however, where people have reported being in a literal classroom or school learning environment.

I don't see why not.

Okay - so who or what are these 'powers that be'?  Those who censor and veil?

I am speaking of world governments, the wealthy elite, and major corporations to name a few. I am only referring to the "powers that be" in this PMR.

I am not suggesting that there is a conspiracy. I am simply acknowledging one that is in the open.

Secrecy is not required for a conspiracy. All you need is two or more people to come together and combine their efforts to achieve a goal.

That 'something indeed is happening' is irrelevant to the average human being focused upon their part in the social structures who have or don't have particular beliefs and are involved in achieving what they can with what is available for themselves and families etc.

The mass see no relevance in this because they have been told that it is all nonsense. If they knew what was truly possible, relevant wouldn't come close to describing the usefulness of these discredited sciences to the average Joe. Just imagine how much relevance the money saved from medical bills would be to people and their families if they knew that psychic healing was a true reality. That's one example.

It seems obvious to me now that "the powers that be" would rather not have any of this stuff be accredited.

I am usually at a loss for words regarding your posts and this one is no exception.

I do have a question though.

Is this your true reality and if so, have you considered looking into getting some medical help? Perhaps they can figure out a way to shut this stuff off for you so you do not have to be harassed by all these entities .

Good luck and try not to explore too much.

Unfortunately she doesn't wish to hear these "words of wisdom" folks.

She wants to fight Astral Entities and anything we say won't stop her.

She has created other threads which have dried up quickly, stating the same desire.

You have all given great repiles though! 

That would have have been enough to stop me! 

Well, I wish here the best in any case.

Mooncrescent- Perhaps you can find exactly what you are looking over at Erin Pavilina's forum. She earns a living encouraging this kind of stuff and has a devoted following.

Inevitably and why I can understand that these vids were removed from TED – is that they criticise secular science with nothing more than subjective claims and quite rightly deserve to be treated so on account of this.

I may be wrong but my understanding of these particular talks in question were not to bring forth and debate any particular evidence but were rather intended to encourage the direction of focus. Under this pretense, I consider it appalling for the scientific community to outright dismiss their ideas.

Regardless, there have been many studies done by reputable labs across the world that have studied certain aspects of the  "supernatural" sciences and have independently confirmed or verified that something is indeed happening that is out of the realm of our (we the peons) current understanding. If this were the case concerning any other science, there would be a frenzy generated to understand more. Call me naive or foolish but I'm past the point of thinking they are just skeptics and I wholeheartedly believe that much of this is known as fact to the "powers that be" and there is a massive campaign intended to discredit any scientist that takes this stuff seriously.

[BUT]

There is no reason why you need to keep your projections short. There are a couple of advantages but they aren't great. Your first couple of projections can benefit you by keeping them short because a.) you will remember the little differences in how you felt from the unsuccessful attempts, and b.) it is always possible to forget the experience if you don't wake yourself back up to remember it fully. This is because you will hit the deeper sleep stages and end up thinking of it as a "regular" dream. Remembering the experience and knowing that it's real will help you the next time because your belief is stronger.

Other than that, I can't see why you would want to "waste" all that time and dedication just to spend a few seconds floating above your bed.

I believe Robert Bruce is very knowledgeable and has some great insights. But....and this is a big BUT, in my opinion, I think he is teaching beliefs that he doesn't actually believe himself. He is making a living through his abilities and he uses fear generated through his proclamations of the objective existence of negative entities that he just refers to as "negs". He will sell you all kinds of techniques and things to help you to ward them off. This type of fear mongering is always a big indicator of where a person's true intentions are. This is as dishonest as a person can get IMO.

My advice to you is get what you can from him for free and dismiss the negative junk.

You shouldn't be concerned at all right now about whether or not we actually leave our bodies or any of that. It takes years for each of us to reach our own conclusions on this and many experienced projectors still do not agree on this. One thing we all agree on is that it's not really important anyhow.

Good luck.

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The power that you need to defeat anything spiritually lies within you. That's because you are confronting negative aspects of yourself and your fears that you need to address. Some people do not understand this so they end up manifesting external "entities" but they are just extensions from themselves.

You can get some "help" from other "warriors" to fight them for you but this only works because you believe it will. This "help" is only temporary because this cause and effect perpetuates a cycle that you will need to repeat each time until you truly understand the nature and origin of your problems. That same belief can and should be utilized more efficiently by becoming intimate with your fears.

Those of us who feel this way are not fooling ourselves because we don't want to believe that there are external evil powers that be. It's just that once we realized this, there was no other way for us to see it.

I hope the best for you. If you continue to feel as you do, you will always need others to fight your personal "demons" for you and that is no way to find peace.

Good luck and please keep us updated on your journey. I am very interested in knowing how this works out for you.

Now that I think of it, I'm not sure I like the idea of being tapped into every one's mind. I was more or less concerned with the harm of mainstream science acknowledging the existence of telepathy, remote viewing, and other phenomenon. But you can't just open that can of worms and expect the other stuff to remain hidden so I see why the powers that be would prefer it all remain one big joke.

William- I'm not sure what you mean by some parts of the "astral" may cease to exist, unless you're referring to belief territories that are sustained through beliefs that are themselves ceasing to exist. I'm of the belief that it only takes one consciousness to believe in something to make that a reality for themselves. You absolutely nailed it concerning why negative entity concepts as well as other stuff continue on because people create them through their beliefs and can thus "see" them in the "astral".

I know we say all the time that we can create or manifest whatever we want through out thoughts but in my experience, it takes intent. In other words, I never saw demons in my early years of exploration even though I believed in them at the time because I never wanted to see them. So I certainly never tried to manifest one.

You really do need to consciously make an effort to have an OOBE with awareness and explore for yourself. I may be mistaken but it appears as if you are very suspicious of the "astral". There is no doubt that there are some entities that do choose to deceive those that they can but that doesn't mean anything in and of itself. That's life, or more appropriately, that's lesser evolved consciousness.

Regardless of what came first or the intent behind the "astral", there is very little evidence, if any, that suggests we can avoid it or do much about it once we lose our physical bodies. We are all glad to answer questions and debate what we have seen and learned but the best remedy to any problem is to go and see for yourself. I think you are slowly accepting this but for whatever reason, you are still hesitant.

Whatever you have learned through Ouija may be good data but you are at a disadvantage by not seeing who you are communicating with. I know it's possible and attempted quite frequently by some to change their appearance in the "astral" but if you personally have good intent, you will be aware or at least, feel that something is amiss. And the more experienced you are, the harder it is to be fooled.

Why do you need help?

This is tough for me to comment on because I have not yet had this type of experience (being unable to project) but some very studious and respected people have and they believe that it is possible to even be temporarily banned from projecting.

Your case seems to be more along the lines of confidence like Astralsuzy suggested since you are still able to "roll out" but nothing more.

Because it would show people that they are "free" no matter where they are or what their circumstances are.

It couldn't be governed! 

Yeah, you're right.

This type of crap is really starting to tick me off. This makes mainstream science look pathetic. This is becoming much more important to me than before. I am starting to get a few personal experiences and would love to see all this taken more serious.

What is the real harm in admitting that something is really going on?

The fact is, we cannot allow children to be taught materialistic science.  It will wreck their ability to deal with the rapid changes that are coming and put them behind their properly educated peers.  Consciousness science is best learned from early on, where children can accept the new ideas without having to push out the old ones.--from the article Beedeekin linked.

[debunking]

Don't you know you're crazy for thinking anything weird is going on concerning contrails.

I have to admit that I was never convinced that anything was happening in regards to this stuff until I saw a very detailed documentary debunking contrails.

And then I saw that our good buddy George Soros was the financier behind the doc and that's all the proof I needed to know that something was definitely wrong...Still not sure what exactly is going on though. Weather manipulation seems to be the obvious agenda but I'm afraid that's almost not sinister enough for Georgy to care about.

I've heard that sometimes if you get too excited, the dream can cease. Try not to get excited if you are, that is.

Yup... first it's fear that ruins everything and then it's the excitement. They can both be overcome pretty easily but it's one of those things that you have to experience to understand.

Meeshatech, I think you already know everything you need to know to have your first OOBE with awareness. I think your asking for trouble by worrying about small things like if you need to open your eyes and such. I can guarantee you that it will not be a problem when the time comes so long as you stop dwelling on it NOW. I used "trouble" very lightly here.

I understand where you are coming from but you're putting the carriage before the horse. You need to have your first experience and see how it goes. Then you can ask how to make certain things better. You're worrying about problems that may never arise and if they do, you might be amazed at how easy they are to overcome. Remember that it's as easy as thinking.

What you really need to keep in mind is that you may realize something your first time that can help us all out as well. No matter how much more experience that any of us have over another concerning the NPR, we are all still learning and you may have the unique perspective to see something in a new light that we never considered.

Now quit wasting time by reading this and go project already!

Good luck my friend.

LightBeam said it all so there's really no point in saying anything else. But............I can't resist.

Like she said, you were already "out of body" and just needed a destination in mind. All that takes is intent. Don't worry, you'll get "there" again and when you do, you'll be ready.

Good luck.

All I have to say is that if THAT is what you need to believe in order to not experience "bad" things, then good stuff. 

You read this rubbish and that's all you had to say?

On second thought, I'm gonna follow your lead on this one.

Hi and welcome to the Pulse. Since you are just beginning and have not yet had an intentional projection, give this a try. You are doing a lot of extra work clearing your chakras and raising your kundalini, as well as opening your third eye.

You don't need any more info, you might actually be better off with less. What you need to do, for now anyway, is drop all that extra work. You don't need to know about any of that stuff to have an OOBE. All you need to do is relax by meditating or just plain clearing your mind. Once you reach all those vibration sensations, then you can practice an exiting technique like the rope or rolling over.

After you succeed, then you can decide if chakras, kundalini, and opening your third eye can help you. Many of us have been doing this for years and never practice any of that. Those that do, get a lot of benefit from it and it helps them greatly along their path but I think it's better to wait and see until you have some experiences personally. Then you can decide for yourself what feels right.

Good luck and keep exploring.

[want]

Come on Fox. You know what to do. And as far as you being shy, pffft, whatevahh..

We don't dream about what we want to become, we dream about what we are becoming.

Well bless your heart then because I'm not quite at the place yet where I can say for sure I wouldn't exploit this for some life changing money.

I'm not saying your "system" does or doesn't work but you believe it does and you're not tempted to use it for your own financial advantage. This shows a lot of spiritual growth.

Hello Leanlow,

There is nothing wrong with a healthy dose of skepticism. We understand that we make some incredible claims but once you have a few of your own experiences, you'll begin to understand. You will never learn it all or cease to be fascinated but you will lose most of your desire to prove it to anyone but yourself.

You will be amazed at how extraordinary claims and ideas become normal to your new understanding. I hope that you keep trying until you succeed. Skepticism with an open mind is all you need. Outright and absolute denial of something in which you have no understanding of is as foolish as believing everything we say is true.

We don't want that for anyone. Good luck and keep exploring.

yes you can and with accuracy too i have done this but not by astral projection but mental projection and this is a higher vbody and you see things as they are in realtime and not subjecvt to any distortion like etheric or astral projection which just shows you the inner plane copy of the material plane the mental body can also be projected into the astral plane but those in the asdtral plane will not see you because you are using a higher subtle body. remote viewing is similiar to how we experience mental projection and the only difference is that in remote veiwing we are aware of our physical body and it is more of an extension of our psychic vision but in mental projection we are aware we have left our body