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I... don't think it'll help our understanding of the universe by trying so hard not to think about its origin. If everyone interrupted their thoughts to suit your ideas, we'd be blasting hundreds of rockets blindly into space before thinking, "wait, why the hell are we doing this?"

So far we've had more luck by looking before we leap.

quote:Originally posted by Zebrima

But does size really matter? After a couple of days "calming down" and getting over my first disappointment, I  have to say no.

Aha! So there you are.

Yeah, that's the way I think of it. Thus far it's fit the description you gave, and while there are a couple people trying to say 'uh, that's not it cause it's made of ice and it's small', the gist of this is the old 'it doesn't look exactly as my imagination thought so it's not real' mindset. Ah, but that's pointless to bring up.

quote:Nibiru should be larger, Nibiru should be closer.

Probably. Maybe this originated from the real thing? Cause if it were a chunk that was knocked off of the original, that would explain its whacked-out orbit. Just a theory. It'd be great if they found something better than this.

What I'm curious about is who the other people are who have seen similar things. Do any of them have websites by any chance?

Now let's not go crazy here. Nobody's getting hurt, it's just a harmless little question.

Let's look at what just happened: Kerrblur claimed 'this is not the tenth awakening planet', and sort of left things in the air like it's true because it was typed. I asked 'why', no_leaf_clover blurted 'planets are big' and Colin declared 'your question is answered'.

So, that aside, it still stands whether this is the pla.... body is what we've been talking about. Since rambling on a message board has proven fruitless, I guess the rest of us will just have to wait for any further announcements.

Now you've handed us more semantics, which is great, but who cares?

I'd like to know where on the planet somebody wrote the words "There's ice here so it's not significant. Go back home."

Well, now you've given us a long list of facts everybody already knows.

Does anybody have any input? I've been curious about the other people who have had related OBE/dreams on this subject.

Well Saturn's just a ball of gas and the sun's just a ball of fire. If you're thinking on that level then sure, our galaxy is just a big disk of stars and the atomic bomb is a big hunk of metal.

I'm seeing plenty semantics.. but so far nothing adds to the subject.

They're still disputing (for some reason) whether it should be a planet or not, but how the heck does its size make it any less significant??

Most of this is being talked about in the 'new planet' thread but either way, here's the NASA site with the details:

http://www.spitzer.caltech.edu/Media/releases/ssc2004-05/

Well the funny thing is, the person in Zebrima's lucid dream/obe said right off that the planet comes into our system every 2000 years, and from that it goes without saying that it's probably really cold, but then there are a whole lot of details on sustaining life that general humanity doesn't know yet. It's quite possible for life to live anywhere with the right technologies, and besides that, spirits are physically invincible. The being said there would be some big changes, which... may or may not indicate life. Ah, we'll find out.

I'm looking over the orbit graphs right now. It was a bit of a throw-off when they said its orbit takes about 10,000 years, which, based on the image, would put it in our system FOR 2000 years rather than after. But then, I don't think they have a very good estimate yet.

I had this theory - and it's only a theory - on the capabilities of a spirit. It seems like they move about by thought approximation; they think of a place and that brings them there... the thought approximates the location and their presence at the location becomes real (sort of like you're shifting the universe instead of your self). So of course the game changes a little when another person or spirit is involved.

A spirit - by this theory - can approach a person and get into his/her thoughts, but only if it can approximate them (think like the person), only, if it can't think like you, there's not a whole it can do.

Anyway what I'm saying is that if a spirit has death on its mind, then think of anything besides that (Your everyday life maybe? ..ah, use your imagination). Perhaps if your girlfriend is bothered by her grandma's death (or somebody else's) that could create an opening. Or maybe any angry thoughts directed completely at someone else (which would match her grandma's state of mind).
As odd as this may sound, I found it best to, simply, not be bothered by what they do. Just to find other things to think about and it becomes nearly impossible for them to wreak anymore havoc.

They actually.. found the tenth planet just a couple of days ago. Weird, eh? Maybe creepy in a good sense, and it seems this thread was introduced almost a year ago.

Hey everyone.  I happened to come across this in a Google search (been looking all over for past-life recollections of existing in alien races. This isn't quite it but I was still startled).

Anyway, it was reported on Slashdot ( http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/03/14/1657223&mode=thread&tid=134&tid=160 ) that NASA found what they're calling 'Sedna', seemingly the tenth planet in our solar system.

Here's the NASA site for it:  http://www.spitzer.caltech.edu/Media/releases/ssc2004-05/
Go to Visuals for pictures, of course.

I personally don't expect anything big to come of this, but that's just me talking from my own experience.  Time after time I (and countless other people) have gotten what seems like a great revelation that would forever change life as we know it. It's fun for a while, then we go right back to living like zombies the way we have from the beginning, once again just waiting to die. Still, I'm only basing this on the past, and I never had a dream where a woman tells me "You find a new planet, and you'll be happy, but then life will suck again", so you've probably got more reasoning behind your thoughts than I do.

Oh umm... shoot. I just looked at the visuals and it's.. red. The planet's red? You'd think a planet that far off would be blue, but it's red. Okay... now I'm a LOT less skeptical.