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Thank you for all of your replies, they make complete sense.

All of my experiences (which are not many in number btw) have only lasted for less than a minute, and I have not been able to sustain them any longer as I tend to return to my physical body. I am getting curious as to whether it is possible to train myself over time and make them hold for a longer time.

I'd like to know how long your OOBE experiences last. Is it possible to stay non-physical through the entire night? If they aren't at least and hour long, it wouldn't really be possible to explore other dimensions in depth, if I'm not wrong.

Thanks.

Here's mine:

Just because creation exists, we tend to search for a creator. But creation can exist without a creator.

I believe that the entire outlook of God is quite misplaced. Growing up as children, we always had someone to look up to, somebody to shelter under. We even had teddy-bears or so, as companions when we felt alone. I say God is none other than such a teddy-bear figure for the grown-up. Something that helps us hold on through testing times.

However, I don't outrightly claim that the Gods we know never existed. I am only arguing regarding the meaning we have attached to this label "God" - the supreme creator, the source of all beings, etc.
I'd at most call the "Gods" we know, as "demi-gods". They have existed at a point in time. They probably still do (since they are most likely beyond our physical dimensions). But these demi-gods, as the name suggests, are not the end destination. They have helped raise our awareness. But we mistakenly began worshipping them instead.

So what is the end destination then? I don't think there is any. I believe creation just is. There's nothing more, nothing less. A false sense of "I" is built up within us. This sense of identification brings in duality. Only upon digging deeper into the question "Who am I?", we find answers to everything.


There's so much more to elaborate upon this. But there's a book out there that does a far better job at this (if you ever wanna check it out) - The Teachings of Ramana Maharishi. I'd call it "The only book you need to read if you're searching for the meaning of life." It delves into a very deeply rooted concept of existence, something we might find really hard to grasp at first since we have always clung to our egos throughout our lives. But if you even get the slightest hint of what's explained, your whole perspective undergoes a shift.

Moksho nama jeevasya vimukthihi, yethasmaath

Indriyaanaam vimukthihi, yethasmaath

Ahankaaraat vimukthihi, yethasmaath

Manaso vimukthihi, yethasmaath

Gnatasya bandhaat vimukthihi, yethasmaath

Samskruter bandhaat vimukthihi, yethasmaath

Samajasya bandhaat vimukthihi, yethasmaath

Karmano bandhaat vimukthihi

Ithi satyam satyameva satyam

Ithi satyam satyameva satyam

Ithi satyam satyameva satyam


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vg35yMEbw80

Here's a quick suggestion.
Try getting all of this nonsense out of your head.
Have a full blown AP yourself.
Learn everything yourself.
Your experience of this reality will greatly differ from another individual.
Stop taking in so many preconceived notions.
It is not necessary to participate so heavily in these forums.
A basic idea and help in projecting will guide you through.
Everything else is unnecessary BS that don't help you in any manner and will only hinder your learning process.

Hey guys I came back here to answer this one.
It's not because we chose to be physical that we must do physical stuff.
Let me explain.
The monk does not meditate to find what's above him, he meditates to find what's in him.
He meditates so he learns what Love is, what Nature is. He meditates to understand the Tao, which is the path about the mystery of life, the path of the mystery of the universe.
He fully understands that his body is only a vessel.
He meditates so he can shed his needs and his urges, his desires.
He meditates so that he can understand the physical fully and walk the path which physical laws don't apply to him anymore.
He already knows what physical is about. He doesn't need to do physical stuff anymore.
It's hard to explain but this is what it is.
Some monks do it for the wrong reasons (we've seen some monks rebellions over the past years) of course.
But a monk true to his identity will already have reincarnated and learned about reincarnation.
And most likely about the Tao.

He meditates so that he can be free of the reincarnation cycle and reach nirvana or he meditates so that the reincarnation doesn't affect him anymore
In this thread you can see that reincarnation still affect Bloodshadow deeply. Reincarnation is not easy, it's even worse if you fight it.

All I'm saying is that when you're truly ready for what's to come, so will the universe.
People are not enlightened by default, when you are enlightened you are in balance with the Tao.

Thank You! This is exactly what I was dying to convey. I second this.

I'm facing the exact same issue.
Sadly, I haven't come up with a solution yet!

How did he manage to kills the astral form of the enemy? (In one of the fights at the hospital)

This sounds very interesting and I'll try to watch them when on WiFi.
Others should too as it's what the whole game plan is about making the subjectivity into an objective reality. If things become tangible the art itself will gain more followers from a more scientific community and then s is a giant leap forward.

Your signature... Shouldn't it be more like 'close your mind' ?
Mind is trying to make sense of too many things, instead of just letting them be constraining us to this reality. 

It's funny how fast he learns and masters the mystical arts though being serious skeptic initially.

I don't think you'll find many people here that believe in any particular religion, only personal experience is the best teacher here. Belief alone is enough to make someone who is very experienced in meditation to get trapped in beliefs/expectations, that is my understanding at least. I believe in Jesus but for me to get too much into it I know ultimately causes me to confine myself to one perspective. Perhaps this is more true for Christians in general than Hindus but you get the idea. BTW I did read that link. I found it interesting but still not sure if I could fully dive in with the whole belief system behind it. Do you have a particular question?

Does someone else want to chime in?

I'm not promoting my religion. Please don't get me wrong, I just wanted to share some intriguing stuff that I found there. Such as parallel dimensions (found in chp 1), Astral projection(chp5), different perception of the same reality by different beings(chp7) etc. Try grasping the crux of the chapters. chuck the gods and religious stuff out of the way

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Hi.
I am a Hindu. I am a strong believer in religion and spirituality. I have great faith in Hinduism since it is very close to spirituality. The various practices undertaken in our religion have been scientifically proven to have greater meaning and reason behind them. There are so many other reasons why I take my religion seriously. Now coming to the point: So there's this God/Higher Being (I generally don't use the term God as that brings in a concept of an ultimate entity that we must pray to etc etc- which is not true - or atleast I don't believe so) called Lord Hanuman (the 'god' with the monkey face) whom I greatly believe, pray and have faith in. So I had happened to come across and stumble upon an important resource. I had never went looking for it, I'd like to use the term 'synchronicity' here.
Anyway, there is a community in Sri Lanka (a tribal one) known as the Mathangs, whom the Lord visits regularly (every 41 years) [Note: Hanuman is called 'Chiranjeevi' or 'The Immortal One' -> more on this is expanded on the webiste]. There is an organisation at the foothills of the mountains in which these tribes reside at. This organisation is in contact with the mathangs and are currently decrypting the logs that hold information about the Hanuman's visits. At the moment, they have released 19 Chapters that talk about the visits.

Before I continue, I'd like to let you know that I'm not a blind follower of my religion. I still am skeptic at times. I once was an atheist too. But over time, my experiences have led me onto this path.
I state, "The contents that you will find on this website (->will be listed at the bottom) are very legit." I urge you to trust my words (-not waste time trying to figure if it's true) and look into the articles. You will find transcendental knowledge without any adulteration.
The first two chapters may seem dry but continue on.
As a matter-of-fact, Astral Projection has also been discussed in Chapter 5!

http://www.setuu.org/


Stuff you need to know about Hindu Gods which would help you with understanding the chapters:
Three Supreme dieties: Lord Brahma the Creator, Lord Vishnu the Preserver and Lord Shiva the Destroyer.
Lord Vishnu takes a total of ten Incarnations in which he ends evil everytime. His 8th avatar was Lord Ram whose greatest Devotee is Lord Hanuman. (His 9th was Lord Krishna and his 10th Lord Kalki is yet to come).
Maanav loka refers to the "Human world" or Earth. Vishnu Lok -> Vishnu's world or "heaven" etc
There's more to cover, but I'm sure Google can help you with that


P.S.  I'm not promoting my religion here. Please dontdoget me wrong. There were some intriguing stuff that I came across. Such as concept of parallel dimensions (in 1st chapter), Astral projection (in the 5th), difference in perception of reality by different beings (in 7th), etc
Just try to grasp the crux of the chapters. Chuck the gods and religious stuff out of the way

Assuming your talking about the end of the universe as we know it then there would be nothing but pure consciousness, infinite space, and infinite nothingness. There would be no creation. No subject and no object. Words really fail to describe such a state.

So you're just there.... forever.

It's seems quite impossible to imagine anything like it. From what I've heard, it's supposed to be a blissful state. Let's hope it is

Here's my question then...

What if you can never know your answers?  Are you okay with that?

I'll keep myself busy with the nonsensical physical matters..

I guess experiencing the source itself/himself will be the only way to answer all these questions

Hello all.
I've had this fear for a long while. It grows from a question of mine. I got this when I was really young, and it's still puzzling. Everytime I think about it, I get this deep fear of my very existence ( be it physical or any other form).
The question is very abstract. Please try to feel the question, feel it rather than trying to understand the words with your mind. I'm not confident that I might be able to recreate the same feeling/fear within you as well (like mine), . I hope I do.

So, all of us have an explanation of life. Be it multiple births and concept of karma, or quest to find God for moksha/nirvana, or your pursuit towards knowledge on the workings of the universe etc. My question is not specific to any of these. It can be applied to all cases.

My question is, who are we? Where are we? What is all this? You may say we are spiritual beings having a human experience. You may say we are points of consciousness stuck in the illusionary physical matrix. But no matter what your answer is, I repeat my question: "what is this? What the heck going on?" I am going beyond your answer. Repeating the question. If you have another answer, then I repeat question. " How does this all end?" You could say (as the Hindus would) "You'd reach the muktisagar" or alternatively "You'd reach oneness and then it's all just consciousness without any form. Just being" but again "And then what?, .... And then what? .... And then again..."

It's too hard to put this in words. It's an emotion.
What is all this birth-rebirth and moksha?
What is ALL OF THIS?? as I keep thinking about it I end up feeling a lot of fear because it feels like I am stuck in this infinite looping game. (Even if it does end, what the hell is this so called "end"? What's after that?) I am trying to recreate my feeling as closely as possible in words. I hope you can understand.
Thanllk you.

Thank you all for the replies.
This is precious

All our lives involve a lot of learning.
Do you have any messages or lessons that you have learnt, to share with us? This would greatly aid all of us

Another question, just for knowledge. You mentioned that "Don't think there is a person/entity with a solution..."
To me, there might be a strong experience/realization by you for that statement. If yes, could you please share?
My understanding is that, anyone in the A-plane could help us for what we want and there is no limitation. Correct me if I am wrong.

Let me quote a very simple example with which most of us can relate to. You might have come across many posts on the internet where people have tried calling their guides and asking them to help him/her (regarding AP)  to separate from the physical by pulling them out.
Personally, I strongly believe in higher powers in different planes who guide us over the time of our lives. But they had never answered my call for help with astral projection.
This is because pulling me out would have actually never helped. But, instead it was my path of figuring out the key to projection that lead to the understanding of various wide concepts about reality and life itself. In case i were aided by someone at the beginning, then I would've probably pushed myself into greater ignorance by labelling the various "realities" and putting them into neat little boxes. But, rather I find myself with a better knowledge about the true nature of this world (the illusion or Maya) behind everything we experience - this is also a topic frequently touched on by Xanth.

Furthermore, if you had noticed, usually in many stories, movies, comics or cartoons, when the protagonist requests an elder/leader for an answer to a problem, they would only reply in short phrases or quotes that don't make much sense immediately. The character then spends a lot of time trying to understand etc, and would finally crack it in the climax. - same answer to this as well.

Consider a scenario where I'm trying to explain to a kid, about what ego is, how one is not the ego but something greater, about egolessness etc. Do you think he would understand what I'm saying or would learn it better if he had reached that point himself through self realization?

You might now say, "Okay, I get what you are saying, but I'm not looking for all the answers. But some guidance from beings in the astral plane would do me good."
See, im not asking you not to seek the guides. I'm not telling you that you won't find solutions out there. If you are able to find help that way, then well and good. But if you can't, then don't be discouraged. I just want you to know that guidance and help can appear in various forms in our lives. It can appear in the form of a book, a pet, your spouse, a video you watched over the net, an incident in your life. It can be anything. Ask the universe, you will receive it. Just be open-minded.
Guides can be contacted even from the physical. You don't necessarily have to AP.

Life has been hard on all of us. If life had been all "happy ever after" then one would remain entangled in this illusion. Only the truth would set you free. Seek knowledge. Search for truth. Everytime I pray, I request wisdom. And yes, the universe answers as I stumbled upon very useful resources over the internet as well some important books.
Have patience. don't give up hope

I'm not sure about this, but isn't this what you experience Everytime when we meditate, truly (as in deeply by disassociating ourselves from this physical realm by focusing away and forgetting our vision, hearing etc...)?

You are looking everywhere for answers. You believe you can just AP and ask someone or some guide regarding the right thing to do. But, though that is quite possible, it is not necessary. You are experiencing (what you are at the moment) because you are supposed to. Its all part of your learning progress. All I would like to convey is that, don't look for answers somewhere else. Don't think there is a person/entity with a solution for all your problems.

Question yourself, look inward

Thanks man!
you have given me so much help, but I cant give you anything I return.

No no. Astral Pulse is all about helping each other to progress in our lives. Nothing's needed in return. Maybe at some point , you can help me out with your separation techniques - I have not yet mastered that.
All the best.

I'm not so sure. Maybe trying focusing on the vibes. They generally engulf my entire body.
Your focus would amplify them.

You're making progress. Be glad. It'll improve over time

Not using a pillow, and sleeping on your back in a flat position with your hands on either sides is known to be the most relaxed position for all your muscles in your body. Not using a pillow helps your neck avoid strain.

Regarding how close you are, you can read what I have posted in the following link: http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_out_of_body_experiences/how_close_am_i_to_an_obe-t46642.0.html

Month of February, 2015
       It was the final year of my high school, and I had my annual exams the next month. In my country, the peer pressure is quite intense and expectations are very high. Failure of a subject is never a choice. In contrast, I was more of a slacker. I kept failing many examinations and had never studied well. All of this piled up and I had an immense amount of the syllabus left to study.
       The pressure was on. Emotions were running high in my family. Soon, it was the night before the dreaded mathematics exam. I hadn't slept the previous night at all. I greatly feared a failure the next day. My eyes were drooping, my brain was banging against my skull. It was 2:30 am. I was tired - very, very. I could not just give up and go to bed like I usually do. These exams would decide the course of my life. But I had to take a nap.
       I switched off all the lights. Set my bed. Laid down. It was late in the night. Dark and silent, with my AC humming above me. I closed my eyes. My brain was so weak, after all those stupid formulas. I observe myself. I watch it patiently. I could feel it. My body had begun to slip away in deeeep trance. I was drifting off. I pulled myself back again. And again, I was slipping away.
      In the distant background, I heard a moderately loud police siren.     SNAP!     There's a 'thunderstorm'. Deep, loud thunders from high up the sky, roaring, and heavy rainfall behind my closed windows. Suddenly, there's this force that is holding me by the feet and spinning me around like a ball tied to a thread. I was spinning under great velocities. Oh god, i felt like an astronaut taking off in a rocket. And in a fraction of a second, I split from my body.
      Nothing much had happened next. I soon came back to my body, and was rejoiced by what had happened. To my surprise, there was no rainfall at all. No thunderstorm or anything of that sort!