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Hi, I'm just finishing readin far Journey's.

My favorite book now!

Anyways, before bed I've been taking a shower, stretching, and listening to some hemi-sync.

I don't know which one it is, but its the one where you go through all he basic stuff, then Bob gets you to move your ballon up, then down, then you go to focus 10.

having a great time, the other day felt like i was peeling off my energy body.

I love it. But i'm trying to focus more on the consciousness part more then the energy.

Anyways, I have been have "clicks" during this.

I was focusing on going lower, getting less and less pyhsical snesations.

but it was strange, i would feel like my face, but not like pyhsical feelin.

anyways, i would lower, get kinda... disconnected from... feeling my body, kinda, and I would get kinda... not foggy, just my focus was not on anything.. losing focus......

and then CLICK!

I would go really clear, still no body(physical sensation) but i would get like a clear feeling all over, like i was standing outside on a cool night and cool few cool damp air, on my face, but not my face. i would imagine, almost see percieve stuff. can't quite remember.

this kept happening, until on one deeper decent, when i got foggy, and then i clicked back into a much clean awareness/ mental/thoughts

I kinda saw/ or it was there....

not a blackness, for me it was like, seeing the holodeck on startrek, you know the vertical and horizontal criss cross ornage lines?

well i saw/ percieved white triangles, like that. i might make a picture.

it was interesting. i can't explain it, i tried to tune into it.

anyways i brought myself out of it since it was getting late. but tonight is going to be the night!

i'll post again later and try to sort this out more.

Hi, I just finished listening to the gateway series wave 1 #2.

I think I was in focus 10 before he was finished guiding me too it.

When he was talking about relaxing certain body parts and such I was very much already there i think. Anyways, my post is a question...

I was letting myself go, and my... awareness seemed to waver and flicker. I would get a sense of motion every fee seconds. The problem is that i felt very.... like I was going to sleep alittle. It felt like dream images or daydreaming images. I would get a quick glimps of people moving buy me, like on the street.

My question is this what I am looking for ? because when it was happening I can't say that I was fully aware or awake. I'm awake now, it just kinda felt like i was going asleep and when i did i would get a sense of motion and would "see" somthing.

Should I aim for a more wakeful experience?

somthing strange did happen, near the end my awareness snapped and I felt more focused (my mind)

I had more clarity and did not feel... drowsy and foggy.

But i don't remember any more images etc.

anyways I will try again tommorow.

I hope that I am on to somthing. If this is what I'm looking for I can see where everyone says it is easier then you think!

oh, and when I was done... I was in a nice deep trance state I believe... normally when i am i find it hard to move my arms or legs for a good second or too. this time i had a bit of a time opening my eyes!

one step closer I feel

I replied in another section to someone else's post. I cannot seem to find them. They used to be here, brainwave generator focus presets. I downloaded them long ago but have since lost the files. do they still exist ?



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Frank, Major Tom ?

It's a great book!  I have a special fondness for it, because I had my first 'conscious exit' OBE half way through reading it!

I often wake up in sleep paralysis, but this time inspired by his book I guess, I decided I could just get up out of my body... so I did!  Nice one Bob!  The two sequels 'Far Journeys' and 'Ultimate Journey' were not so good for me, but a lot of people seem to like them even better.  They describe how he founded The Monroe institute and his research into hemi-synch.

It's been a while since I read it so I can't shed any light on your questions at the moment, but you made me want to read it again!

http://www.scientology.org/en_US/religion/catechism/pg037.html

i dunno if i will go, but i will keep looking into it. I smoke marijuana, and I don't agree with their perspective on this.

Hello shedt!

RB's book is the best actually...  I think what he has to say about mind-split and memory download are the best explanation I have read in any book.  In a nutshell, what he says is that when we OOB, our consciousness "splits"... part of it stays with the physical body and part goes off with the astral (or what he calls the "energy") body.  When the astral body returns, the recollection of what happened is then "downloaded" back into the physical brain.  Whether this download is successful or not determines whether we remember the OOB.  If the memory download succeeds we remember a vivid OOB.  If it fails we remember a failed OOB or just a dream of an OOB.... interesting and original idea from RB... and supported in his book by an amazingly well described mind-split/feedback experience.  Explains a lot in my opinion...

catmeow

It says in your other post that you are agnostic.  If you don't believe that one can know whether or not God exits, but your wife believes God does exist, why not just humor her?  It's not as though you think that baptism can damn a child to hell, cause for all you know hell may or may not exist, but your wife believs it does, so humor her.  If there is no God then baptism is meaningless, and if there is then it's meaningful, and since only one person in the marriage believes in anything why not just bring her some comfort by letting your children get baptised?

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ask for God's blessing []

~kakkarot

oh this was supose too be a reply too Jeff's topic, but either way, congrats I hope your baby will be cool just like you !

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i find the best energy transfer between individuals is the love given in a hug [].

best wishes for you and your daughter []

~kakkarot

cyootie

I don't think you'll find that kind of "generic" ritual, for the principle of it is to refer to some specific deity in a closed system (religion, cult etc). It would be like wanting the recipe of a cake but without the cake The only thing you can do, i think, is to create your own prayer with what you believe.
Tell me however if you find this generic prayers etc, but as i said i really don't think they exist out of any system.

I actually tried the coils of hose under my bed and did get some relief from it but i don think i had enough coils there. Im not sure about the glasses of water because i think the water has to be flowing for it to work.

well you could try using your sig, like you're doing already [|)]. other than that, i don't know.

~kakkarot

I would just like to point out that Christ's teachings are pure in simplicity.  Christ taught to love thy neighbor as thyself.  So many Christians today are so against homosexuals trying to get married or any who has a drug problem.  Christ did not teach us that it is alright for us to make judgements of ANY kind on these people.  He taught that all of humanity is connected through Gods love for them and for our necissary love for one another.  God is our judge.  If someone is homosexual and you try to convince them they are wrong and treat them as sinners, then you are NOT living Christ's way.  It doesn't matter if you believe it is right or not, that is not for us to decide.  It is our role as children of God to accept ALL our fellow humans, and lay the task of judgement unto the one who created us all.  That is where current Christianity is going astray!

Hi Shedt

  I`ve been using Gateway for over a year.My advice is to spend plenty of time on number one.Getting familiar with focus 10 is very important and is the basis for everything else that follows.I listened to the first CD for three weeks before moving on but I wasn`t in a hurry.A tip for making focus 10 better is to practice it for about 20 hours! Also check your expectations at the door,  relax as much as you can and then go deeper.It`s not a race so take it slow and have fun with it.

  Happy Trails

Ya know, that's a darn good question.  It used to bother me too.

It doesn't bother me as much anymore, but perhaps through practice I have simply gotten used to it.  

I tend to do my meditating and AP attempts laying down.  I have learned to kind of tilt my head a little to one side, so I can go longer between swallows.

If anyone has a better way to deal with it I'd sure like to hear it.

Congrats on your new bundle of joy!

I think its up to you. It really is. I wouldn't tell my kids, thats if I have any, about AP. Its something you have to find out about your self.

Think of your childs reaction when you tell them about AP. They will think your crazy. HeH.

This is interesting..someone brought it up to me, that ALOT of people were fine...until they read about negs and such.  

I had nightmares as well, hell, still do..but I not once thought it was a neg attacking me.

Why all the hoopla about negs lately?  And from what I have read, doesn't RB say it is very seldom such things come about? Yet, look around on the forums..it is running rampant!  I suppose I am glad that I am NOT "special" enough to have anything after me..[^]

Headaches..they happen for many reasons.  I am beginning to feel sorry for the negs..all this bad publicity they are getting. []

Nay.

I think the problem with marijauna like any other drug including alcohol is how it affects the body. It screws your energy up (with prolonged abuse).

I think Inguma mentioned something on one of these forums once about his experiences with marijuana and how his energy is somewhat off.

I think there is a thread here somewhere about it, and you might want to PM Inguma about what he has experienced.

Either way good luck.

No, but I once had a book by Denise Linn called "Sacred Space" and she mentioned the use of Neg Ion Generators.

Well, I take it back, I have a water fountain in my living area, water fountains are supposed to be Negative Ion Generators if I am remembering correctly. Does some good, but doesn't quell the attacks as much as I would like.

I'm confused, this topic has been viewed 13 times, and alot of the people here have the book. Can't anyone answer my question ?

Congratulations on your baby!  You know, funny you should mention the 3D ultrasound.  I'm a programmer for a company which develops that very same type of software.  Pretty cool stuff, and it sure beats the old ultrasound days with 2D fuzzy images! []

You can do any of the exercises in NEW while sitting at work. I do it all the time. Read NEW if you have not and start practicing it.

Why do you care if other people think you are a "christian" ? Believe what you think is most likely true.

Wow congrats