Illuminati?

DayTripper · August 01, 2011, 15:46:16

As there are many theories about 12/12 I have a tendency to keep an open mind to all. I'd rather be aware of everything than to put my beliefs in something that is most likely false. Anyways, has anyone done research on the illuminati? The attempt to create a one world government? It is predicted that the illuminati will stage an alien attack on that day, much like they staged the 9/11 attack, to create chaos and fear, which will help them bring forth the new world order. I don't really have time to give you a detailed background of the information, but anyone that also knows a lot about the illuminati have any opinions?

astraladdict · August 01, 2011, 15:58:36

Indeed, i know a lot about that sort of things. Staging an alien invasion on the 2012 olympics, using that as a fear tactic ( among MANY others they use ) so they can start their new world order. People, the world isn't going to end in 2012, why else would the elite have ruined the pentagon just plan on building another one in 2012? Yeap, it's going to be a big big year.

~astraladdict

SomeRandom · August 04, 2011, 22:56:39

IMO if there is an "illuminati", it isnt really the "illuminati" we're all hearing about and "find out" about. I think its part of the plan.... whatever it may be, for us to think there is this group hidden in the shadows trying to create a NWO.

astraladdict · August 04, 2011, 23:20:23

Even if we weren't supposed to find out about them, they can't deny anything cause that'll get people thinking "OMFG they are here!" Like how they can't take those videos off of the internet cause that'll cause a stir. Also, either way, they can feed off of the energy giving to them. Win win for them

~astraladdict

DayTripper · August 06, 2011, 14:57:37

I agree with that, the more they try to hide it the more people will be suspicious. They're extremely intelligent (if real) and have mastered many mind control techniques. It's also strange how popular artists like "Drake" will rap about selling his soul for fame blah blah. And then theres michael jackson, who sang about being resilient to their offers, there was an interview where he was asked about it and he got really nervous and said he didn't want to say too much because they would find out. Surprise, he's dead. A lot of the teachers of the illuminati are mysteriously dead or in jail for random things. And the concentration camps that are being built, will the thousands of coffins, is interesting as well. Why do they need those? They try to make it look like they're only helping the country, when in reality they have intentions of killing everyone off to minimize the population. Has anyone else noticed the chem trails in the air?

Lionheart · August 06, 2011, 15:25:55

Speaking of Michael Jackson, near the end of his "This is It" movie he was having a thank you circle, group hug. He thanked all the dancers, producers etc. and then said that life is precious and that we had 4 years left to save the earth. Now, I know Michael Jackson had some strange lets say problems and I have no idea why I was watching it in the first place, but I believe from what I saw that he knew he was going to die. There are a number of things that he said in the movie that gives credence to this. I looked at the date of the movie and it said 2009. It was likely started in 2008 though. He said we had 4 years to find a new way of doing things before the damage becomes unrepairable. I believe 2012 is about just that, but I also believe that the transition is going to be full of chaos and is going to get extremely bumpy. But, from Chaos always comes order. So in the end we will be better for it.

DayTripper · August 06, 2011, 15:46:55

I feel like Michael Jackson was set up for a lot of the things that happened to him, simply because he would not follow the illuminati orders. I mean theyre in control of the media, so of course they could make it seem like he was insane, there was the chance he might leak their secret, they had to make him incredible. Which is exactly what they did, when he died, people made jokes. It's rather sad actually, Michael Jackson was a major contribution to our society... and extremely brave for not following the orders of the illuminati. Unlike Drake, Rhianna, Kanye West, and everyone else that most people "idolize". It makes me sick. Honestly.

Xanth · August 06, 2011, 16:33:47

O_o

HiRes · August 06, 2011, 19:18:51

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rq9gaC4R_d8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8k6b95gxzYM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvcMbRRUUM8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ljz7SVBCoU

Watch these, this is an interesting theory on earths history, and talk about beings that could be considered the "illuminati"

I think these videos are going to change the way the world thinks :]

Sad to say the 5th video will not be out for 2 weeks :/ The guy making them is going away on a trip to visit some places.

HiRes · August 06, 2011, 19:20:07

and as for the fear tactic, I believe they will do something that will get peoples attention. After the alien invasion, I believe they will plan some kind of religious movement that allows them full control

(with benefits of protection from the aliens or something xD, that will just crash and fall after the pole shift :])

SomeRandom · August 07, 2011, 08:55:36

Michael Jackson was a sick pedophile and I have no clue why any parents let their children go around him, its sad what people will do for money...
He obviously had issues created from his childhood, family and fame and he never got helped for it because he believed he was the best.
Sad really people believe he wasnt a child molester, its not ok for children to be sleeping in a bed with a man they barely know and was trying to make himself look like peter pan. He was all shy when it came to sex but he sang songs and danced that obviously had sexual innuendo.

But thats off topic isnt it? ^_^

Orion- · August 07, 2011, 09:04:50

I strongly doubt he was a pedophile. Of course, in his mind, he still was a child, because he never was allowed to be a child when he physically was one. But I don't think he ever did anything bad to children. If you look at the women who sued him, you can see that they want money, that they are greedy. He was a kind man and accusing him of things isn't very nice. Yes, he liked children, but he didn't do anything bad to them.

Lionheart · August 07, 2011, 17:49:05

Most incredibly artistic people have another side to them. Alot of them are complete eccentrics, I don't condone what he did, but I feel that he was a "special". I don't think he was ever confortable being human, he showed this in a number of different ways.

kurtykurt42 · August 07, 2011, 22:04:10

It would be pretty tough to make a 1 world government... It's not easy controlling 6 billion people. The best way to do it is with fear. An Alien invasion might help with that!?

astraladdict · August 07, 2011, 23:10:28

Quote from: kurtykurt42 on August 07, 2011, 22:04:10
It would be pretty tough to make a 1 world government... It's not easy controlling 6 billion people. The best way to do it is with fear. An Alien invasion might help with that!?

They have been using the fear tactic for a long time. Another tactic is, humans cannot make up their mind. When the government. Does. Something. They. Get told to back of, but when they don't do anything they get told to step up so that is used as an advantage. 6 billion humans. Way too much for earth to sustaine so a mass depopulation will possibly happen

~astraladdict

HiRes · August 08, 2011, 01:31:35

I think the pole shift if a great way for a de-population

The pole shift also would account for what is said in the bible, and many other predictions of end times.

I personally want to create a Merkaba around myself, and possibly family, so we will be safe during this pole shift.
Also I think a mass shift in consciousness comes with the pole shift, I am not sure.

Xanth · August 08, 2011, 08:53:44

Quote from: astraladdict on August 07, 2011, 23:10:28
They have been using the fear tactic for a long time. Another tactic is, humans cannot make up their mind. When the government. Does. Something. They. Get told to back of, but when they don't do anything they get told to step up so that is used as an advantage. 6 billion humans. Way too much for earth to sustaine so a mass depopulation will possibly happen

~astraladdict

I agree, however it won't be something done by choice... it'll be something due to greed. It's really simple actually... money = bad.

astraladdict · August 08, 2011, 11:18:27

Quote from: HiRes on August 08, 2011, 01:31:35
I think the pole shift if a great way for a de-population
The pole shift also would account for what is said in the bible, and many other predictions of end times.

I personally want to create a Merkaba around myself, and possibly family, so we will be safe during this pole shift.
Also I think a mass shift in consciousness comes with the pole shift, I am not sure.

I see it as the elite putting their plans in bibles. If you look at all the religions, they have so many things in common. As for the merkaba, check out my post on it. Each member of your family will have to create their own merkaba. Can't do it for them
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_energy_body_and_the_chakras/how_to_do_merkaba-t34789.0.html

Quote from: Ryan_ on August 08, 2011, 08:53:44
I agree, however it won't be something done by choice... it'll be something due to greed. It's really simple actually... money = bad.

Money IS one of the ways used to control. I think they will use different methods of depopulation though. There's A LOT of people to get rid of lol. Have you seen the movie District 9? I saw this documentary explaining how the elite, once they get the NWO started, want to stick humans like that in small places across the earth. If you are outside of the area you get no food, water etc. That way so mother nature can " fix herself". Idk though, i like to keep an open mind.

~astraladdict

HiRes · August 09, 2011, 10:54:59

As for religion, I believe it just different ways to get a god. Not everybody thinks the same, there for they needed a way to appeal to everybody. (at least almost everybody). I also believe that heaven is just a state of consciousness, where we face all the bad things we did. Once that is complete, we get to go to a higher plane of consciousness and meet "god" himself. Which I believe everyone to be "god" they just have to reach the purity of him to achieve godlyness

and as for the merkaba, No one else in my family believes the stuff I say. I think them going into the black out and losing all memory will serve them good.

Xanth · August 09, 2011, 11:03:24

A "one world government" is going to happen one day. It has to... humanity needs to learn to unite and work together, or we're gonna blow each other up.

With that said... all this talk about conspiracies regarding certain groups trying to gain control. It makes absolutely no sense to me.
I think we're here to individually grow spiritually... and, there is really NOTHING anyone can do to stop that from happening. People are going to grow spiritually and wake up on their own time. And there is not a thing anyone can do about it. There's no controlling it...

You can lock someone up and throw away the key... they can still grow spiritually.
You can starve someone to death or beat them into a bloody mess... they can still grow spiritually.
You can do whatever you want to someone... and you'll never stop them from growing.

So what's the point in controlling? Money? Power? They can have it... it's all worthless physical reality materialism. In the end it has no bearing upon your spiritual growth. I'm sure that there are people in this world with no money and no power and they're infinitely happier than someone with both of those things.

So really... what's the point to forcing control upon people?

personalreality · August 09, 2011, 11:06:10

I just finished a good but obscure book about the subject of "the illuminati".

It's actually about ancient-astronaut theory and the "elite" left behind afterwards. nevertheless, the author mentions that at one time the romans called them the "illuminati". he also makes a distinction between this so-called "real illuminati" and a short-lived bunk illuminati that was based on a freemason lodge in much more recent history.

anyway, the book is pretty good. it's more about the political games that have been played (machiavellian in nature - agitate both sides to induce conflict and remain hidden as the actual perpetrator while also helping both sides to fight the other - results in perpetual conflict and security for the "elite" doing the instigation) throughout history to continually suppress the spiritual reality of the human being and therefore humanity itself. it doesn't really talk about aliens much, only in the beginning to set the stage.

"The Gods of Eden" by William Bramley

I like it.

personalreality · August 09, 2011, 11:08:47

Quote from: Ryan_ on August 09, 2011, 11:03:24
A "one world government" is going to happen one day. It has to... humanity needs to learn to unite and work together, or we're gonna blow each other up.

With that said... all this talk about conspiracies regarding certain groups trying to gain control. It makes absolutely no sense to me.
I think we're here to individually grow spiritually... and, there is really NOTHING anyone can do to stop that from happening. People are going to grow spiritually and wake up on their own time. And there is not a thing anyone can do about it. There's no controlling it...

You can lock someone up and throw away the key... they can still grow spiritually.
You can starve someone to death or beat them into a bloody mess... they can still grow spiritually.
You can do whatever you want to someone... and you'll never stop them from growing.

So what's the point in controlling? Money? Power? They can have it... it's all worthless physical reality materialism. In the end it has no bearing upon your spiritual growth. I'm sure that there are people in this world with no money and no power and they're infinitely happier than someone with both of those things.

So really... what's the point to forcing control upon people?

You posted this while I was writing my post.

Note the point about the goal being to suppress knowledge of the spiritual reality and its attainment.

It's not about "well they can't do it forever", I agree, eventually we will all have our personal awakening.

But it can be suppressed indefinitely and I'm not ok with that.

HiRes · August 09, 2011, 11:29:03

Nature will have its course.
I do believe the world needs a one governed society, but Not with the right brained thinking of the "illuminati"
I believe that when the "illuminati" gain power, the world will go through its pole shift, and destroy them. As nature intended it too.
As a society, we need this "right brained" thinking they have brought onto us, so we can progress on the evolutionary chain.

Once the "dec 21st, 2012" event happens the world will be awakened, and AP and other "spiritual" type things will be much easier than they are now. Most of us will probably lose our physical body in this event, but we will be awakened spiritually and live forever as a free spirit. Some of us may have to live through a hell they created upon themselves, but that is the divine goal of "hell" itself. To awaken the "Evil" people to the true nature of things, and get themselves back on track to purity.

astraladdict · August 09, 2011, 11:36:50

These "problems" happening in the physical are what help evolve spiritually. If everything was all light and dandy how will we learn? When someone is abused they learn to stand up for themselves and do something, to be tough minded. When someone sees riots and all kinds of things going on, depending on the person of course, they will want to do something about it. To spread love and light. So in a way i'm glad the "elite" are here to cause all the problems, for humans to cause the problem.

~astraladdict

Xanth · August 09, 2011, 11:42:11

Quote from: personalreality on August 09, 2011, 11:08:47
You posted this while I was writing my post.

Note the point about the goal being to suppress knowledge of the spiritual reality and its attainment.

It's not about "well they can't do it forever", I agree, eventually we will all have our personal awakening.

But it can be suppressed indefinitely and I'm not ok with that.

Well my point actually was that I don't think they can't do it at all... not even in the slightest.
People will naturally awaken at their own pace, and I really don't believe anyone can stop or even slow it down.

A "one world government" is a necessity though. It's going to happen... it won't happen due to "a group forcing control" upon us though.

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