2012 War - What really happened

[Aries]

Hahaha nice!
Finally... its solved.
-Aries

[neo]

wow, i dident know the mayans did drugs[8D]

but that does not solve the question, its only a theroy.

(but it was a fun 1 he he)

[Clow]

... offensive

[jc84corvette]

So true. Art talked about it on C2C A.M. It makes perfect logical sense.

[James S]

I Like it! [^]

Mystical knowledge? Predictions of future catastrophies given by aliens?
Nah, just humans being human. Nothing wrong with looking at a situation like this and applying good old fashioned common sense, a simple explanation....and good bit of weed![8D]

James.

[Clow]

... Degrading cultures are we now?

[no_leaf_clover]

To bad that wouldn't explain why all such calendars end on the same day in what would be our 2012, and not just 1 calendar. Not that I think they're going to be any demonic war or really anything like that in 2012, but it's part of a bigger cosmic cycle that the Mayans kept track of, just as we keep track of the Earth's rotation around the Sun. What I would like to know is where the demonic war idea originated.

[Clow]

Prophecies, Dreams, Astral Library, Past lives. There so many different things that I could list.

[Jeff_Mash]

quote:Originally posted by Clow

... Degrading cultures are we now?

Hardly.  While I appreciate you being the spokesperson for the Mayan culture, I can assure you that this was meant as a light-hearted piece of humor designed to make some of you THINK about things.

I was just tired of seeing all the arguing regarding this war in 2012, all of it based on a calendar which mysteriously ends that year.  So I thought how funny it may be to find out one of these days that the calendar was simply stopped for some trivial reason and not some deep, spiritual one.

Sheesh, I can't believe I actually had to explain that to you.

[volcomstone]

Degrading cultures? pardon me while i burst but I recall mayans as performing blood rituals, horrible violent sacrifices

anyhow its not the demons who are coming its the annunaki from n'biru who will come to steal our gold and copper collect your pennies!

any real conspiracy professor will know that the "demons" are just a fear mechanism constructed by the illuminati! thr truth is planet X will come back,

[Van-Stolin]

Actually, Demons have been in cultures for so long who knows where they originated.  I go by the Japanesse demon or youkai.  It was said that they were originally came to be from all the suffering that came about from the war at the time and then dissaperead after the fighting was over.  So if that was true, we would see a whole bunch of demons around, what with all the war and famine and what not.

Jeff, that was funny.  The moment I saw your topic I knew it was going to be great.

[lateralus897]

You guys are all wrong. On December 23rd, 2012, the easter bunny will be resurrected and will start a war with the human race.

Now you might think, Oh, it's just a rabbit, it can't hurt anyone.
But you couldn't be more wrong.

"He'll bite your head clean off! It's a vicious rabbit with large, sharp, pointy teeth!"

[jc84corvette]

Ok things are geting out of controll here. Do not pick on people because they believe in something that you do not. Respect each other.

[Syke]

Count to three and thrust the holy handgrenade towards the evil Easter bunny.
Not 2... not 4... 5 is certainly out of the question.

umm but yeah jeff i was thinkin the very same thing, well maybe not the joint and girlfriend part... but that the ending of the calender could just have been when they got fed up with making a calender, i mean they would had to have stopped one day.

Nostradamus also predicted a "demonic war" around the same time.... and people can look at him as a prophet.. or somebody who was in on planning all these major events he "predicted" with a secret society, and his book of prophecies is nothing more then a guide line or instructional book that only the very top of these secret societies know how to translate properly....

ok i gotta stop talkin now..
-Syke

[moontingle]

Good one, Jeff! Like, whatever happened with "living in the moment" and making the best of it that you can, without worrying about the future. Masters don't worry.
Like: there were relatives who shared a family secret for cooking pot roast; it had been handed down for centuries. The stories about how to prepare the roast were whispered amongst the younger family cooks, and it was said to be a curious, mysterious thing, but if you cut off the end of the roast, the meat would turn out absolutely heavenly. One day at a special pot roast dinner, a child reverently asked the ancient grandmother who sat at the table, near death, why the roast had to be cut off. Finally, the big recipe secret would be revealed. The grandmother laughed, and in a croaky voice, said, "Oh, my dears, that's easy ... the first time your great grandmother made  the roast, her pot was too small, and she had to cut the end off!"  

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[Clow]

O.k. good point Van. We would still see demons around. Now iff you think hard about it we still do. The Jersey Devil, Chupacbra, and Mothman. These are just the demons strong enough to resist the astral pole shift and remain in demon form. Which is why we see hardly any demons. That and the last time this kinda thing happened was back in 2000 B.C.

Also I see now that it was humor I was really tired when I read it my sleep schedule is out of wak now that I'm going back to school after holidays(School Sucks).

Maybe you are stereo typing mayans to much. Also many cultures did sacrifices back then. It was common because of thier beliefs in vengful or evil gods.

[1Zenryoku]

Stuuuupid but funny sorta

[Aries]

Good point.. there are these creatures that exist today, but we really dont know much about them.
-Aries

[Van-Stolin]

Yes, they are rumored to exist.  I have seen something weird in my woods too, but I don't know if it is a Mothman or not.  I do find the Mothman legend to be very freaky since so many people have seen this creature and all have described it similirly.  Now to whether these things are actually demons or not, I don't know and I don't think anyone else would either.

I think I should post a little more info on youkai.  I think that it was a break in the astral that allowed these creature to exist.  It takes a massive amount of energy to take something astral and make it physical as many have tried and beavus has told us that he changed words in a book with that energy.  Well emotions are a powerful energy and with all the negetive emotions around that time it upset the balance and caused these creatures to exist.  When the war was over these creatures might not have had any energy left to sustain a physical form and were slung back into the astral.  I don't know if this could happen or even if it did happen, but it does sound alot like what some of the people that are talking about demon wars are going on about.  Creatures from another demenstion coming to this one becuase of an influx of energy, it does seem plossible, but not likely.

[Aries]

Well since ww2 the Earths natural Leylines have been energized so that could be one explanation as to why more of these "Demons" are being sighted.
What kind of strange things did you see van stolin?
-Aries

[Ramiel]

Sure its a light hearted piece, that I can see, but..

You DO realise that the Mayans didn't actually develop the calander? []

They were given it.

[Aries]

Two questions for Ramiel:
1: Who gave it to them?
2: How do you know?
thanks
-Aries

[Van-Stolin]

Aries, what I saw was a long time ago and I am not even sure I remember right what I had seen.  I think I was 11, I was on the deck that surrounds the pool and looking over the fence into the woods.  I was just looking out in a blank stare and then I saw the some of the smaller trees move, but I couldn't see anything.  Then I could have sworn I saw the air sort of distort and then something run off into the woods.  Needless to say me being young and having watched a scary movie a little bit ago I ran inside and locked myself in my room.

I would also like to know who gave them this calander and how you know.

[Clow]

Good point Van. I still believe they are demons. The Energy I dea seems like a good Idea too. Think about it. I live in America. Wheeeeew all kinds of energy stirring. 9/11. The war against Iraq. We actually finding Saddam Husiane. But think about it many of the demons i listed have been around for a long time. So it isn't a genetic experiment gone wrong. Possibly each of them is an AlIEn lol. Anyway I also believe there is to much evidence for it just to be a myth.

[Aries]

I have a seen some strange things in the Booneys in Alaska..
One time I was near my Grandmas house in AnchorPoint. This little butt town that doesnt even have a sherrif, population probly like 150....
Anyways I was out in the woods and I smelt this wierd butt smell, and I kinda followed it. Anyways I finally came to this mound, on it was what was left of a animal. Possibly a skunk... im not sure, anyways, there was no bones, and its fur was shredded and thrown all over this little mound. I just remember seeing alittle bit of the carcas, and some fur, and smelling a very very wierd smell.
Iv also seen strange things in the woods when it was dark, but I am not sure what.
I think that since the last WorldWars the Earths LeyLines have been re-energized so this is attracting more Aliens and Demons, and things of that nature.
It was documented that bodies of dead soldiers would even get up and start attacking every living thing near them. Do some research about Hitler and his obsession with the Occult. You will find some pretty strange things, like all of his bases were built on strong Nexus's, and his SS was all over the world collecting Occult artifacts.
-Aries