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Ewok

intro: admins, this is a serious situation my life depends  on it, please  keep this thread as it is, i need some help!!


http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_astral_chat/30000_dollars_reward-t24850.0.html


I woke up after 2 years of inactivity in this forum.

Demons are certanly still here, whats more theres growing confusion, there two entities hovering around who claim to be Jesus! One of them in an imposter, theres this good Jesus who did a healing on  me last year and then theres this evil Jesus who constanly harasses me!

http://jalruza.bravehost.com/goodbad.html

Theres a lot of talking in that other thread and i havent read the other two pages only the first page, soooo - NEW thread:

Im offering a large sum of cash to anyone who can help me get back on  my two feet!!!

Just read this:
http://jalruza.bravehost.com/goodbad.html
link.

If anyone can help, anyone, with anything to clear it all up i would be forever in your debt ;)

Stillwater

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Hey Ewok,

That's a large bit of money, lol, I hope you are not actually offering it up- I am no conjurer, but I know a very good way to summon charlatans and swindlers is to speak in dollar signs, and I don't think that is what you are looking for. You can't really trust the help of those who only appear when money is brought up, so I would go a different route.

I read the second page you provide, and am a bit confused, but that is okay, lol. Why must one of these scenarios be true, and why is there mortal significance involved? I am not being sarcastic, please do not take my words in that manner, I just want to sort out the situation, so I can understand your situation and your reasoning regarding it!

Wish you the best,
Stillwater
"The Gardener is but a dream of the Garden."

-Unattributed Zen monastic

galaxy_storm

Ignore all bad "entities", that's it. If you keep fighting them/thinking about them, they will just become more real. This is the law of attraction.Think positively, ignore them completely and they WILL disappear. You have the right to choose what you want and what you don't want...

Anyway, they are probably just a construct of your mind after all...

Do they actually interfere with your physical "self"?


Flow...

Ewok

Quote from: Stillwater on January 01, 2009, 00:32:13
Hey Ewok,

That's a large bit of money, lol, I hope you are not actually offering it up- I am no conjurer, but I know a very good way to summon charlatans and swindlers is to speak in dollar signs, and I don't think that is what you are looking for. You can't really trust the help of those who only appear when money is brought up, so I would go a different route.

I read the second page you provide, and am a bit confused, but that is okay, lol. Why must one of these scenarios be true, and why is there mortal significance involved? I am not being sarcastic, please do not take my words in that manner, I just want to sort out the situation, so I can understand your situation and your reasoning regarding it!

Wish you the best,
Stillwater


Hello Stillwater

Thanks for your reading this.

On the second page did u mean this:
http://jalruza.bravehost.com/nah.html
?

As i was saying, any help would be much appreciated, and  any help will be rewarded respectivly, karmically and materially :)

Stillwater

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QuoteThanks for your reading this.

On the second page did u mean this:
http://jalruza.bravehost.com/nah.html
?

As i was saying, any help would be much appreciated, and  any help will be rewarded respectivly, karmically and materially

Hi Ewok,

Actually, I meant the page you linked to in your first post, that illucidated the "Good Jesus" and "Bad Jesus" scenarios, although I did now read the new page you provided in this latest post as well.

The story you provide is long and elaborate, and it places your role in reality in a very elevated position. A handful of your anecdotes together seem to hint at a case of Paranoid Schizophrenia, although this does not necessarily mean you are Schizophrenic, or that much of what you are saying could not be true. Many people who are decidedly Schizophrenic seem to experience a bit of higher reality as well, mixed in with their hallucinations. It is arguable that many people who were diagnosed as Schizophrenic actually had access to higher realities, and the problems associated with them; since higher realities involve not only "spiritual" entities, but also our own psyches, much of what we see can also be built out of our own beliefs and expectations.

So I think the trick, in the case of Schizophrenia, or in those attuned to seeing higher realities, is to be able to sort out what is real, and what may be ego-driven self-fabrications. My suspicion, whether you are schizophrenic or not, is that since your story is so dreadfully complicated, and seems to place amazing emphasis on your role (ego), that much of it is possibly mental fabrications, since we tend to see what we expect to see, but that does not mean that parts of it are not true, as that is also quite possible.

If you need help between deciding the two "Jesus" scenarios, if either is true at all, I think it would be the "good Jesus" version, as it involves far fewer assumptions of seemingly unlikely situations, though they both contain their fair share of fancifully outlandish bits.....

As for your doctors, I think I would tread a middle-ground: I think a diagnosis of Schizophrenia may be possible, but I don't think modern psychiatry is really equiped to deal with Schizophrenia. I share your disgust for the state of today's self-righteous, self-deluded physicians. The common response is to deal out tons of dangerous meds, and they solve the problem very poorly, while generating tons of ill side effects. Besides adhering to a needlessly matierialist-based dogma, which places illogical emphasis on the flawed biophysical model, Psychiatrists have become very poor listeners lately, and are quite closed-minded in their dealings with their charges, and provide little to no insight to the patient, so I can certainly understand your frustrations, and if anything, I would reccommend psychiatrists or therapists who are more "talk-oriented" to help you get to the bottom of what is real and what is illusion, since there is less risk involved, and studies have shown that doctors who are more receptive to what their patients are telling them have much better results.

One major problem which you relate is a difficulty in deciding what is reality and what is the work of lies or hallucinations- a lot of times, we have to rely on what other people think to help guide us in grounding ourselves in reality; this does not mean that if we think or know something that seems unlikely to others, it must be wrong- that is far from true- rather, what I mean is that we can use the manner in which other's intrepet our stories to guage how potentially likely or unlikely our perspective may be, and set this as a basis for evaluating our views. Many people will simply refuse to believe what seems unlikely, and this sort of attitude should not be given much weight, but if others can provide logical reasons why what we think seems more or less plausible, it can help us in considering our own reasoning.

I hope this little bit helps, and my heart goes out to you, as you are clearly at feeling a lot of terrible tensions, and it is often difficult to be able to tell fact from self-fabrication when you are attuned to higher realities, as you seem to be well aware of yourself. If I can be of any further help, or you'de like to talk about anything at all, please say so, or if you take issue with anything I have said, I take no offense if you would kindly point it out!

Wish you the best,
Stillwater
"The Gardener is but a dream of the Garden."

-Unattributed Zen monastic

Ewok

"The common response is to deal out tons of dangerous meds, and they solve the problem very poorly, while generating tons of ill side effects."


That is exactly what i was gonna say!!

Im on "Clozopin" atm (used to be  taking olanazpin which doc said wasnt working :| ) Anyway this horrible clozapin is nasty!! There half a dozen of side effects yet my doctor doesnt want to listen to me when i say i dont like this meds

As for shcizphrenia i think your wroong here. Its not schizophrenia - its more of a contact with negative spiritual entity whos been feeding me all this crap for reasons of his own...  :evil: :roll:


Anyway, thank you for stoping by and looking at this from a much more "clear" perspective, i fond myself sitting in a hole not knowing much whats going on!

I will keep u updated.