30,000 dollars reward...

[GANAMOHA]

I love your arguments nay  they always make me laugh

[painterhypnogirl]

Gawd, Ganamoha, don't encourage her!!!      Besides, I was pretty funny, too.   

[Nay]

*tackles phg from behind and steals the crown*     Yeah, we're both gonna be strung up for being spies or something.  I'm all for agreeing to disagree.    *gives the crown back*  Made me feel all prissy anyways.. you are the girly-girl after all.  I'm good with being the   LOL!

Hey Gan!  wow, I totally appreciate that!

[Ewok]

"
Do it yourself. After all its just a neg. Heck they cannot even stand to be around prayer and positive thoughts of god.
"

This one can... dudes and dudetes you should see my website, there i was say how i was able to see into astral and i saw negs HAND in place : that is instead of my astral hands i saw negs hands: demonic and gross... then i atempted to write Jesus on my hand with a pen and the bloody thing was diving away all the time, finally when i made a go at it, the hand started withering and drying and dying infront of my eyes, clearly the neg was in some pain....

BUT, it is NOT enough to remove that thing, aparently. Its got a hold of my like its holding for its life...


"
Speak to this little beasty in your dream and find out why its here.
"

I really want to do that, but im still learning to become lucid, couple of times that i did just that i remember i got no reply from the neg, instead my body started sinking deep into coma / paraleeses and my intuition told me it was time to wake the hell up...



"
Just in case anyone is interested, Robert Bruce does not take money for healings or depossession.  While there are many who don't believe in negative entities, which I can understand, we all have our own little demons we are fighting with.  (i.e. - anger, lying, drinking, and sometimes the hardest one of all to conquer - rudeness).  So, even if you (that being the universal "you", not aimed at anyone in particular) don't believe in negs, at least try to recognize when someone is in pain.  The pain shows up in many ways, and may not fall in line with your particular beliefs.  A plea for help is a plea for help, whether "you" give credence to it or not.  And, try to understand just how little making fun of them is helping.  If you were in pain, would you appreciate that kind of response?
"

Waw thats awesome stuff!

[Ewok]

And ehhhhmmmmm, painterhypnogirl have you asked Robert yet about all this, can he help?

Years ago i used to email him and we seeme to get on well, where is he now, he hasnt been answering many posts in his "contact" forum either 



"Where the heck would he be if he told people that they create their own demons?"

And what the heck do you mean we "created" them?
Trust me there is devilry out there, just because YOU havent come across it, you should be thankful...

You really should read my reply to the same statment from another forum, where a guy tried to tell me it was all my own problems :

"
Lets imagine for a minute baby Konnrade, when he was around 2 years old, safely napping in his bed. Crispy sheet, teddy bears, night lights. Mammy says goodnight. Then around 2 am baby Konnrade dreams about visiting a cookie factory with his daddy... only half way thro the dream something else starts to happen, at first its just a cold graveyard atmosphere that floods his room ( and only can be sensed by a sensetive adult if he was there to witness it ). Then baby Konnrade starts feeling cold shivvers and before he knows something cold stabs him in his feet, never mind he is still dreaming of chasing that double chokolate cookie in his dream... but the cold pricking continues and grows in intensity, before he knows it became really painfull and baby Konnrade is about to start crying .... only he cant... whatever it was that came thro his energy points in feet, has now worked thro his autonomous nerve system and paralaised poor baby Konnrade! He is now dissasociated from his body and can not feel or move it. He is then dropped into a dark foul smelling void, he starts sensing that something really foul and dark is building up around him. He is powerless to do anything about it and in terror he exposes his all natural defences and lays them down exposing his psyche. What happens next, his psyche gets raped with virtual reality / drug induced full blown hallucination like quality in ways that would make cases of child molestation and domestic violence on earth look like walk in the park.

Shortly after he is released from paralyses, his whole body is as tense as vitnams war vets during psychich release sessions, hes whole body is covered in sweat, he throws into wild uncontrollable crying and even when his mother finds him running into his room he is anable to speak and breath properly and move for the next few hours and needs to be sat with comforting.



The same treatement continues from age 1 - 4.

And then stops. Whatever was doing it has finished breaking down energy body defences and now successfully attached itself to the persons psyche.

Its all influence stop. It waits until baby Knnordae gorws into adult while integrating and changing things such as his personality and sexuality. Althought no more night terrors are felt, there is no need for them, Konnrades problems have only just begun..."

[Enoch]

Ok i read (most) of the fun....But i will say im not from any forum that was mentioned. I have my own beliefs and my own knowledge. In part it may come from people like bruce and many others. But in the end its done by me.
The belief of outside forces is very real. If you spent any time astrally you know theres a balance in all things. And if you believe in god you believe in demons. So a neg is just a very "whimpy" demon. Or even a human spirit that bothers the heck out of someone that has not learned to protect themself. How you ever become a moderator in a forum that is steaped in the occult and not know for sure there are demons i have no idea. I must ask have you ever spent time it the underworld? If not you are only seeing half the picture and i forgive any ignorance.
                      Do you think this world became the lost, fallen place it is without the influence of the spirit takeing place? Anyways im not trying to argue here just pointing out things ive seen without any DOUBT.   Outside influence not being an issue for anyone that projects is just lying to ones self. If you project around family and friends with no form of protection i pray for them and you.   
   

[CFTraveler]

Enoch wrote:

if you believe in god you believe in demons

.  Not necessarily.  Only if you believe in a limited and dualistic god then demons are necessary for balance.  But if you believe in an all-encompassing God then demons, whether internal or external, become part of the all.  I'm not participating in the debate about the objectivity (or lack of) of demons, just in the mistaken assumption that belief in god necessitates the belief in negative entities as polar opposites to it.

[Enoch]

Yes but have you not encountered them? The evil of man in this world is that of our on devices? Partly yes it is. But what was the spark? what continues to decieve and show man the false paths? Even if it is just part of our own makeing is it not possible to manifest these?  I do see your view well but does god have to be limited than to be the spark of life or everything as we know it? It was he who created satan if you believe but satan made his own choices after existing. 

[CFTraveler]

Yes but have you not encountered them?

Indeed I have.

The evil of man in this world is that of our on devices? Partly yes it is. But what was the spark? what continues to decieve and show man the false paths?

The spark is the belief that everything that is material is the only reality.  It is this belief that makes us do things that are considered evil.  Fear of death, fear of not having enough, fear of losing.  It is this fear that is behind every evil deed in this world.

Even if it is just part of our own makeing is it not possible to manifest these?  I do see your view well but does god have to be limited than to be the spark of life or everything as we know it? It was he who created satan if you believe but satan made his own choices after existing. 

Absolutely.  I wasn't saying that evil beings (material or astral) don't exist, I was trying to stay out of that part of the discussion.  I was saying that using the argument of belief in God as an argument for the existence of evil is wrong, since that would make the existence of God dependent on it's supposed antithesis, which I completely disagree with.
And satan, in it's modern incarnation made his choices built on error- so from the point of view of God they don't even exist.