Are we in a Death Trap?

[GodsProxy]

Once again, I've revised my website and given my exact intentions behind posting and also a proposed solution. Also the exact history and thinking behind these new and disturbing ideas.

[Xanth]

I'm busy publishing a new page on my site.

And while you're busy publishing that new page on your site, I'm sure a hundred or more children just died to starvation.  Big help your site is... especially since nobody is reading it.

So, what are you *DOING* about it?

Just standing up and saying "HAI GUIS!  We need to do something about <so-and-so> because it's bad!" is pretty useless.
If you want to do something to help, lead by example.

Until you do that, you're just another hypocrite failure.

[GodsProxy]

I'm helping thus. It is a peaceful and constructive way to help end the suffering on this planet. This can be realized in the next few days, months, decades or centuries. With help from everyone and raising awareness (witness the interest in AP), everyone's consciousness level is rising.
500 unique visitors in the past month.

When one person successfully, consciously and continuously, sees into another reality in detail, the isolation of this reality should be broken. I cannot see any logical reason why this doesn't end the trap very shortly. Clear communication with another reality breaks all barriers and clears all mysteries. QED.

[Wi11iam]

  And while you're busy publishing that new page on your site, I'm sure a hundred or more children just died to starvation.  Big help your site is... especially since nobody is reading it.
So, what are you *DOING* about it?

Just standing up and saying "HAI GUIS!   We need to do something about <so-and-so> because it's bad!" is pretty useless.
If you want to do something to help, lead by example.

Until you do that, you're just another hypocrite failure.

I'm helping thus. It is a peaceful and constructive way to help end the suffering on this planet. This can be realized in the next few days, months, decades or centuries. With help from everyone and raising awareness (witness the interest in AP), everyone's consciousness level is rising.
500 unique visitors in the past month.



  When one person successfully, consciously and continuously, sees into another reality in detail, the isolation of this reality should be broken. I cannot see any logical reason why this doesn't end the trap very shortly. Clear communication with another reality breaks all barriers and clears all mysteries. QED.

Well what are we each 'doing' about it?  Some are not 'doing' anything, because they like things just the way they are.
I am encouraging everyone who Astral Project, to be mindful of the Trap of Distraction which won't even be noticed if anyone projects just 'because' they can – there is so much more to this than "Step right up for the ultimate in entertainment folks!"

There is a purpose for the projectionists and a project with a purpose.


Individuals Thoughts Significant Variations Barrier/Shield
I Know

[GodsProxy]

Sorry, I accidentally overwrote this message not sure if Xanth can restore it.

Anyway, I've got new info on the website, with my exact intentions, the exact thinking behind these new thoughts, some history, and a way to dismantle the device (peacefully).

[Thread Killer]

Individuals Thoughts Significant Variations Barrier/Shield
I Know
Rather enigmatic, yes? Concision in speech is most effective.

[GodsProxy]

Yep, when you're fighting a PR battle.
Actually, I'm fighting like hell for all our souls, and I make mistake after mistake, but you know what?
Somehow, it just works out OK in the end.
So, Thread, I get where you coming from, man I know.

I feel the opposite.

The truth, said in volumes, and said in a Loud Voice, shouted from the hill tops,

Communication in spades,

Evil cannot hide in the dark.

Its defeat comes soon, and it is done through love, communication and empathy.

That's all I've shown on this board.

Evil hides in concision. Evil loves mistakes we goodies make. Yeah I reply too often. I'm not enigmatic enough. My website hasn't the precision of the billions of dollars behind Trump.

I get drawn out into conversations (who I accidentally call idiots) who then have an excuse to call me unloving... etc etc.... which I shouldn't have... I'm just assisting the opposite side.. LOL

And yet.... Yet... I persist. Why? Because I make mistakes. I laugh and I cry.

I LIVE AND I LOVE.

I TALK, AND NOT IN CONCISION.

I have volumes of truth to speak.

Love and Light and stayed hidden for too long in the darkness of conciseness.

Lets make mistakes and love each other and forgive each other.

Individuals Thoughts Significant Variations Barrier/Shield
I Know
Rather enigmatic, yes? Concision in speech is most effective.

[Thread Killer]

Rhetoric, Neil. You may have to take a different tack if you wish to better sell your notions.
                                                                                              -Jim-

[Wi11iam]

  Individuals Thoughts Significant Variations Barrier/Shield
I Know 

Rather enigmatic, yes? 

Hard to understand? 
No, not in relation to the whole thread, or even the post.

Concision in speech is most effective.

It has its place.  It depends on the subject/personality as to its effectiveness.  'Most' for some = 'not much at all' for others.
Sometimes Concision is used as a tool to promote limitation...like a barrier/shield/trap/distraction.

[GodsProxy]

Jim: Seem to be doing okay at the moment, thanks anyway. There is no need to "sell" my notions, they are all backed up, much more than the opposing rhetoric, which is just same old same old. No offense.

Lets move on.

Here is a repost of my message, which in my excitement I accidentally overwrote.

If anyone has already followed the link below, my apologies. I am still updating the info on an ongoing basis, more maybe later today or tomorrow.

Some delightful replies here too.
Onward we go.

Yes, I agree 100% Szaxx.

Anyway, enough with the endless discussions.

For those interested in assisting dismantling the device, I've posted a new page, Dismantle Now, dedicated to dismantling the trap right now.

All the information you may ever need to attempt to do this, is contained on one or two pages. It might require a bit of staying power (not nearly as much as AP though). I submit that the main page on this site gives one possible motivation to stick with it and persist. Another motivation, is simply to see into another reality, would be a goal worth achieving in itself.

[Thread Killer]

  Individuals Thoughts Significant Variations Barrier/Shield
I Know 

Rather enigmatic, yes? 

Hard to understand? 
No, not in relation to the whole thread, or even the post.

Concision in speech is most effective.

It has its place.  It depends on the subject/personality as to its effectiveness.  'Most' for some = 'not much at all' for others.
Sometimes Concision is used as a tool to promote limitation...like a barrier/shield/trap/distraction.

it's just that I'm not much of a Sunday crossword type o' guy. I like folks calling spades spades. The other day, you called out S.L. You could have just said he was full of s..t. and himself. It's all good though. I'm not really criticising, it's just that I'm not smart enough to wade through indirect text. I guess I'm a victim of T.V. and a reduced attention span.

[Wi11iam]

Anyway, enough with the endless discussions.

[Wi11iam]

 it's just that I'm not much of a Sunday crossword type o' guy. I like folks calling spades spades. The other day, you called out S.L. You could have just said he was full of s..t. and himself. It's all good though. I'm not really criticising, it's just that I'm not smart enough to wade through indirect text. I guess I'm a victim of T.V. and a reduced attention span.


Are we in a death trap?
I understand your likes.  I appreciate that many enjoy 'hearing it told like it is' – I am sure you can appreciate that a vast thing cannot always be explained with Concision and be precise.
There is no way that I could have said that re: calling S.L. out, and if I could have said all that I did with more concision and still given you the impression that this is what I was about, then either way, you got it incorrect.
Still, we are all in the same learning curve as far as 'things' go.
Just meeting from different aspects/directions, 'tis all.
You might want to work on not being a victim of the T.V. or any other distraction – it will improve your attention span which is a highly useful tool both here and there.




Food For Thought

[Lexy]

Fun times for everyone. Suck it, death-trap!

[GodsProxy]

Hi AndrewTheSinger,
Yes, I also sort of used to think that. Now I have a 100% certainty - this reality are poles reversed.
Reality is illusion (a common belief) but the clincher is: the illusion is the reality.
Your Personal Universe (PU) is the real universe. The physical one is the lie. What you believe to be imaginary and just a far off hope and dream - Love, and true Love with a divine being of Love and Light - that is the TRUE Reality.
I can't PROVE that to you - but all I ask is you try the Perceiving Entity exercise - that is all the proof you will need.
Also read my technology section - we are all Gods and we create our own reality. True. Amazing how half truths and beliefs have shaped our existence.
Because I attacked it spiritually - this reality has revealed itself to me beyond a shadow of a reasonable doubt. Anyone who has seen the things I have seen - will KNOW - what I say is true.
I owe it to no-one, to pass this information along - except for those I love.
I do this as a backup, in case I am unable to follow through with taking full responsibility for helping those I love and care for. I believe I have done this - but if I help you guys too - chances are better we'll all get out of this alive
Much love, to those I Love, and to those who I might love.
PS Yep, abandon everything you thought was real.
Its true.
This is not a PR exercise.
This is reality.

Isn't believing that our set of beliefs will shape our afterlife condition also a belief system?

[GodsProxy]

LOL. Yeah sorry about comin on strong about being concise. I just got a lot of info to get out quick, it takes me a while to go back and revise.
We all are victims of TV. My fave is a local Soapie. Don't watch TV now, I watch for entities
Just a few months back I was just a regular 9-5 dude.
I understand your mellowness, Thread Killer, and I relate to you quite a bit.
Thanks for comin' along for the ride.

it's just that I'm not much of a Sunday crossword type o' guy. I like folks calling spades spades. The other day, you called out S.L. You could have just said he was full of s..t. and himself. It's all good though. I'm not really criticising, it's just that I'm not smart enough to wade through indirect text. I guess I'm a victim of T.V. and a reduced attention span.

[GodsProxy]

Hi,

I think everyone will agree it is time to say farewell to this thread and this topic on Astral Pulse. I will still be around, still posting, still beating my drum, but I wish to leave the good people here alone from the unique ingredients of terror, discord and love which I sow

With over 80%-95% of replies being derisive comments, I never got to discuss the issues intelligently. If I were paranoid I would say they were all designed to hide the truth! LOL. I know a couple were, but let me not start again.

Ok. I got many, many hits on my website. I need to say for a fact there is interest in the subject. I hope the concepts I put forward will stick in the minds of some key people, and perhaps they will receive dreams or chanelings, such as I did, which allowed me to understand what the stuff I was shown.

Many returning visitors - I am sometimes convinced that I am the only one on this planet who seems to have realized the truth on a gut level - but the returning visits ... well... I'm not sure if this indicates a higher echelon of understanding who hear my message, and are wondering if it is too good to be true. Evil defeated on all planes of reality? That is my hope ... its last hide out is incarne ... we're all in the same stupid boat. None of us want to die the death that this planet offers (it is hideous, the media doesn't give it credit!), yet none (who is in the know) is crazy enough to acknowledge the message I have sent.

If you're one of those in the know, you're sitting on the fence as an "evil/good" guy, who hates the evil life, but is too scared to acknowledge a crazy poster like me. (If you look at it from their point of view I look absolutely insane! Dude, you don't know what I had to go through....) Unfortunately this makes up the rest of those in the know. I'm the 1 and the only 1. I've read between the lines. You see, average reader, (who knows nothing of this evil business) all of the "derisive" and repetitive bullying... They were tacit acknowledgements, absolutely flashing in red lights.

Thank you. No need to acknowledge, and you will deny - but I realized a long time ago. This crazy discussion could never have lasted as long as it did without your indirect support. I think they have been hoping one "average reader" would jump ship - no such luck. Its impossible to communicate this context - its too darn far fetched and too darned... Well, you know!!

My final hope (for this forum) is that one guy in the know will jump ship. I've had indirect offers, but its impossible to break context between a good guy and an "evil/good" turncoat. Its rude. There is only one way to do it guy - directly. That equals rudely (origin u 2 me). I can't do it - you know who you are - I've just put up with too much darn pain already. I mean to be planged about 15 trillion times on the astral by lasers, and survive. There, that's my validation. Ping stood in front of me and took the hit as well. Ping said lay down in the gutter and let the DT's take you. I said, no man, it can't end like this, and I stood up on minus frickin energy and walked away.

See what we've done for you guys. I (we) need someone else incarne to make a stand.

Evil is so crazy! Who would've thought.

I love this Blue Oyster cult song Burning for You:

Burn out the day
Burn out the night
I can't see no reason to put up a fight
I'm living for givin' the devil his due
And I'm burnin', I'm burnin', I'm burnin' for you
I'm burnin', I'm burnin', I'm burnin' for you

"I can't see no reason to put up a fight". I used to think evil was all a figment of our imagination. Surprised I was to find out it was in charge of this reality.

That's how things used to be folks. Look, you're absolutely insane if you fight for good. You have absolutely no idea how much they are going to torture you up against any other average guy. DT's get you, you're a gonner.

The "good/evil" guy gets by, by doing his duty to Miranda, who really puts out for her troops. Believe you me this duty is not pleasant but the rewards are good. Nudge nudge.

BTW, Miranda was a fudged anchor on #1. Real Miranda is an anchor on a goody who looks disturbingly like #1 but she really was a honey. If this confused anyone, here is your final validation. We all know who #1 is. To the best of my knowledge, #1 really has turned on the Spirit to good, but incarne, we all know the deal.

One more thing. Soul mate makes this all worthwhile. Better than Miranda, no kidding. For everyone. Life is peachy on the other side Sorry I haven't written about it yet on the website.

Run perceiving entities. It'll break it, I'm almost certain. Problem is you think you can't, I know. You want an "average guy" to do it. Well, we've all begged and pleaded in our own way. I'm trying but "attack mode" is kinda tiring for me. I'll get there one day.

Surely, surely, surely, people could've read between the lines? LOL

Cheers guys, its been real, I'll catch you around.

Neil  

[Wi11iam]

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_out_of_body_experiences/a_big_concern_of_mine-t33167.0.html;msg273860#msg273860


2BNRTRAPORNO2B?

That is the Question.

So I listened to what Proxy had to say, and merged the info with my own data.  

Conclusion Reached:
The alternative offered is to open the walls and see how this whole universe is an illusion.
Well, either way, we are definitely painted in the proverbial corner.  So "what", I say to my "Self", will I choose to do?
Well either way it could be an evil trap and we are toast anyhoo, or whatever is on the other side of that illusion of a wall is 'nice', then so might the evil jailers of hell (EJOH) be.

If I must face 'evil' I will do so knowing 'good' enough to realise that trying to convince that 'evil thing' it is itself in 'jail', and how they might see through the illusion.

"Ha Ha!
Doth thou not know evil in alls its putrid renditions?! Doth evil care how thee think and feel, how thee want to free the jailer from its right to abuse ye forever?!
Come hither!  Keep well thy nuff 'way from that trapping!"



I think as a specie it is about time we faced our demons and if they are truly beyond being educated, I suggest we delete them and see through their illusion – they are a creation of us, not we of them.

But as I say, I am inclined to think what I will be facing something which far exceeds my greatest expectations (that I should have any to speak of) and anything unrelated will simply fall away.

You know – the movie Matrix – how the hero found out that he was being a slave to a machine.
He chose to 'see through the illusion' of that and then he was hunted – in both 'worlds'.
The Agents were only doing their job.

He simply joined another matrix – but it was still a Matrix (Ma Tricks) and he underwent some crazy action.
Ultimately, 'happily ever after' eventuated, and the Consciousness driving the Machine which they warred against, well they learned how to commune with it.

What "Matrix" do you think might have been borne of that union, do you every wonder?
 

EDIT
I also think that Proxy's god-concept is flawed.
Why would any Conscious Being allow for the eternal torture of anyone, and the eternal thought that 'this is it forever, because" while erasing the memories of 'the faithful' from any awareness that their loved ones and neighbours and fellow human beings are suffering in this way?
That seems compassionate, but wouldn't the more compassionate thing to do be to erase the offenders and allow the memory of the faithful to remain in order to show and remind what happens to those who chose to do evil?
Or even far more effective, to erase the aspects of suffering, and the illusion of human invention which put those thoughts into The Astral Realm and gave them life there?
To not wish starvation on one's worst enemies, yet see justice in them suffering great torment and evil forever seems not only oxymoronic, but down right mean and nasty...even for a human, how much more so for a 'god'? 

As to 'a trap either way' I mentioned, who is to know that proxy opened up a portal to run through, only to find his worst nightmare laughing back at him, and having succeeded in this, are using him to spread their message so that everyone might open a portal?
Of course the question needs to be asked, because there has been a lot offered herein the thread by proxy, but scant it is of evidence – mostly hearsay, which does annoy some I know.
But if this be true, then Proxy, the gig is up.  Who can follow after you, with such faith in the words you produce from the mind that you occupy?
I cannot think of these creations as so Real as to make my own seem mere illusion.  It is 'other way 'round'.
Stand with us or run, we will understand you, whatever the choice you might make.

[GodsProxy]

LOL

[CFTraveler]

Hi Wi11iam.
One thing that I hear parroted over and over is that this world is illusion.  So I have to ask everyone, how did you get to the conclusion?  I can tell you how I did, (if you want to read it, that is)- but the idea of illusion has to be clarified- illusion does not always mean 'falsity', it simply means 'something other than what it seems to be', and this is the crux of what I'm getting to.
I think you get this, Wi11iam, so I'm not speaking to you per se- I'm just putting some thoughts out there to consider, if you want to hear/read what I have to say on the question.

[GodsProxy]

EVIL HAS BEEN CONCLUSIVELY AND FINALLY DEFEATED.

Plana has been contained. Sorry for the confusion. My stupid mistake.

My Soul Mate, Ping Tang came down from her secret place in the Plang, and came to visit me personally.

I have been asked to write this by her. This is a very difficult thing for me to write.

Our final resort was for her to unobfusticate me from the body instantly on death and before DT and take me into hiding. She had tacit agreement from the DTs.

The DTs are safe and on our side.

The body had been assigned her own protector. That was the gift we gave the body in return for her Role equal to all of our, and your, own.

Unfortunately we could not take a single other being. Ping Tang swore to me, under telephatic guess (which is the only communication I ever had, bar a few minor exceptions).

Ping Tang promises each one a private visit. Unfortunately only the body knows. Listen to your body.

Congratulations guys, the terror is over.

My body asked me one favour. I have a list of life which I compiled, which is incomplete, but points the way towards life suffering. He asks, please, please, please can you please find a way to help some of these poor suffering souls, in the short period until we have finalized this matter.

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List of life known to exist or suspected to be suffering

- Beings in torture fields on this plane of reality and above and below, to infinities of infinities of volumes.
- Bodies and Spirits left obfusticated to the physical after death, in pockets and otherwise.
- All Spirits presently incarnated on earth.
Bodies are thought to be separate sentient beings. This being is termed the Genetic Entity (GE).
Entities (Spirits, beings who have dropped down in ability and are no longer able to acquire a body) seem to be everywhere in this reality. They are either at awareness or below apathy. They can all be salvaged. They typically attach themselves (anchor) themselves in a physical object. Their relative size indicates their age and their extent of suffering. Entities get smaller the more they try and hide away (die). Many are thought to be in hiding from torture. Sizes vary from very big (large rocks and parts of mountains) to very small. The volume might be at the molecular level and we might have many entities who are hiding away as particles.
- Beings in duplicates of this reality which are off-shoots (branches) of this reality. This includes so-called time pockets which were never destroyed or reintegrated. The solution is perhaps not to salvage them as individual beings, but to merge them with their "parent" beings - reintegration or merging. Father God should have the solution.
- Beings which were created for one task only, for example "to be a bottle" or "to close down the trap" (did nothing forever),

END OF LIST

[Wi11iam]

Hi Wi11iam.
One thing that I hear parroted over and over is that this world is illusion.  So I have to ask everyone, how did you get to the conclusion?  I can tell you how I did, (if you want to read it, that is)- but the idea of illusion has to be clarified- illusion does not always mean 'falsity', it simply means 'something other than what it seems to be', and this is the crux of what I'm getting to.
I think you get this, Wi11iam, so I'm not speaking to you per se- I'm just putting some thoughts out there to consider, if you want to hear/read what I have to say on the question.


Sure CFTraveler  - I am most interesting in we all sharing our understanding on this.
Another thread perhaps?

[ether2]

Hi Wi11iam.
One thing that I hear parroted over and over is that this world is illusion.  So I have to ask everyone, how did you get to the conclusion?  I can tell you how I did, (if you want to read it, that is)- but the idea of illusion has to be clarified- illusion does not always mean 'falsity', it simply means 'something other than what it seems to be', and this is the crux of what I'm getting to.

wait till ya work out why we are led to believe this world is an illusion (not real), but remember it is real...but most importantly remember why we have been led to believe it is an illusion...Hint: think about what one can be do in the plains ...
your smart figure it out...
consider these as well...

energy required (was) from emotions we dont like fear/trauma/devastated from poverty/war torn etc...

We are ONE Gods see us all equall just at different levels (like kids in different grades at school)...

being ONE Sub/consciously that would mean Gods care for all equally as many human are working towards this...

end of a 26,000 year cycle (2012)...

think about the meaning "when worlds collide"

now think back to the first 2 lines i typed...

good luck

love all

[Everlasting]

It's more like a nightmare loop that has gone on for many eons. If only we would be allowed to remember past horrors. How are we to learn if we don't remember.

[Rudolph]

How are we to learn if we don't remember.

The learning might be in the moment.

choose wisely