Astral Projecting and mainstream media

[Xplorer88]

 :-Dhey guys just thought id start this new thread "astral projecting and mainstream media". when i first found out about astral projecting back in september, i was very surprised that something this amazing wasnt mainstream, that everyone wasnt aware of it and also that ive never heard of it in my life! at all! or anybody i know for that matter. i was thinking how did i not see this on tv or in a movie once or read about it in a book or heard of it im sure there must be stuff out there about this, itleast hinting or insinuating astral projecting.

most of the information i got below is from wikipedia. anybody else that has heard something about astral projecting in a song or tv series or movie magazine etc. please include!!! how much is it really out there? how well is this phenomenom known by the average person? why isnt it mainstream? why arent governments using this and performing experiments with it. just curious!!!



+The Astral Plane is referred to in the songs Gonna See My Friend by Pearl Jam, Draw the Line by Aerosmith, Mary Jane by Megadeth, Stormrider by Iced Earth, Over the Mountain by Ozzy Osbourne, Dream Weaver by Gary Wright, New Invaders by Iris, Legend of a Mind by The Moody Blues and in rap artist Method Man's song Bring the Pain, which was later quoted by rap artist 2pac in the chorus of his song "No More Pain". The two songs Astral Plane and Astral Plane Pt Deux by Morphine Machine are specifically about it. "Astral Plane" is the name of song on the debut album of Jonathan Richman and The Modern Lovers and the term provided the title and informed the lyrics of Van Morrison's Astral Weeks. An early piece by the progressive rock band Yes was entitled "Astral Traveller". Experimental producer Flying Lotus released a track titled "Do the Astral Plane" on his album Cosmogramma.

+In the Marvel Universe, Doctor Strange has practiced astral projection since his inception in 1963. Illyana Rasputin [alias Magik] was able to astral project her own consciousness in New Mutants (Series 1) #15. Other mutants such as Professor X, Emma Frost, Jean Grey, and other powerful psychics, have access to the astral plane. Professor X imprisons the Shadow King on the astral plane. There are beings who live there such as Cassandra Nova.

+In the DC/Vertigo Universe, the Astral planes are used for travel and magic by a certain number of individuals such as Doctor Fate, Zatanna, and Doctor Occult, though use of astral projection is mostly illusionary.

+In the standard Dungeons & Dragons RPG planar cosmology, the Astral Plane is a dimension coexistent with all others (or all non-elemental planes in some editions of the game), used as a means of transportation between planes. The Astral Plane is the final level of the computer game NetHack. In Ironclaw some characters can use an astral body.

+The Apple II and PC video game Windwalker identifies the Astral Plane as a dimension through which a character called the Alchemist can summon demons, influence dreams and cause evil.

+The Astral plane is featured as a level in the video game X-Men Legends.

+The Astral plane is mentioned in a Radiohead song entitled "Pyramid Song," in which the lead singer, or lead character in the short narrative of the song, looks on a "Moon full of stars and astral cars." The lead singer, Thom Yorke, realizes this before he succumbs to death by the end of the song and reaches a new astral plane of existence.

+Method Man references Astral Plane in the song 'Bring the Pain'. "I came to bring the pain, hardcore to the brain, let's go inside my Astral Plane". Parts of the song were also used for the chorus of Tupac Shakur's 'No More Pain'.
Aerosmith references Astral Plane in the song 'Draw the Line'. "No dice honey, I'm living on the astral plane"
Fatso Jetson's 1999 album Flames for All contains a song named Vatos of the Astral Plane.

+The Astral plane as well as other planes of existence such as the etheric are featured prominently in the Deverry cycle of fantasy books by Katharine Kerr

+The Astral Plane is featured in the surreal 2000 comedy film The Nine Lives of Tomas Katz. It is a major part of the musical "The True Story of the Bridgewater Astral League" by The World/Inferno Friendship Society. It is featured in the television show Charmed, in which it is described as a realm of "spirits and energies" and a place where time does not progress.[9]

+The avant-garde heavy metal band maudlin of the Well created music, lyrics, and atmosphere that dealt predominantly with the subject of astral projection. The band tried to find music rather than compose it. This was done through practicing astral projection and lucid dreams, from which the band were purportedly able to "bring back" pre-existing music from the astral plane (as stated by Toby Driver in the liner notes included with the reissued Bath and Leaving Your Body Map).

+"Astral Planes" is the fourth addition to The Smashing Pumpkins 44-track album "Teargarden by Kaleidyscope."
In the game 'runescape', rune is referred to as a astral plane upon talking to death the first time.

+The video game Psychonauts revolves around a young psychic named Razputin, who uses a form of astral projection to enter the minds of several in-game characters, taking him into mental worlds based on their memories, imaginations, obsessions, and even manias.
Flying Lotus has an instrumental song on his album Cosmogramma entitled "Do The Astral Plane."

+just saw an episode of the simpsons last night called ""million dollar maybe" where homer at the end of the episode is in a hospital after having a car accident. he tries to make himself relax because his heartmonitor machine is beating too fast. he starts to calm down but relaxes himself to the point where his heartrate monitor machine goes dead(beeeeeeeeep)...he says wow look how peaceful and calm i look until he realizes he's floating outside his body and panicking starts swimming in the air trying to go back into his body.

+saw an episode of family guy where peter has a near death experience and finds himself out of body. name of the episode is "Death lives". in the episode, Death(the grim reaper) leaves and peter is left alone in the golf course, out of body, looking at his lifeless body on the floor. lol then he goes into his own pocket (the physical one on the floor) and steals his own wallet while nobodys looking.

[Monk]

How about the infamous James Cameron's Avatar or everyone's favorite the Matrix Trilogy?

Ugh, dont even mention references to astral projection in music. Most of my collection can be interpreted having a metaphysical connection of sorts but it's just too much to go through over again y_y

[Everlasting]

In Flames - Behind space

Call me by my astral name
Breeding fear through wordless tongue
Heavenly thirst - unspeakable pain
Emptied from all human motion
Confront the faceless wrath

Beckoning silent from a sphere behind space
Through twisted ruins of uncompleted dreams
Sights of towers reaching for the moon
Clawing at the skies - they gonna pull it down

Intensity - I feel the lava rushing through my veins
Stars are reforming - to enter the fourth dimension

Beyond all galaxies
Through timeless aeons of frost
Unearthly hunger - angels descent

We are entering dimensions behind space

[personalreality]

Madlib and Quas have a song called 'Astro Travelin', but it's primarily about traveling while under the influence of marijuana.

it's not in the media because it's considered paranormal.  it's not used by the government (overtly) because it is not supported by their God, 'Science'.    

even the paranormal branches that are "mainstream" think we're nutters. 

any socially normal scientist thinks we're just making this stuff up.

but, out here in the 'real' world, the world of self exploration and revelation, a lot of people know about OBE. 

[AlanRK]

How about the infamous James Cameron's Avatar

Where was there astral projection in that movie?

[Monk]

It was an indirect allusion to projection. One's consciousness was transferred from one's body to that of the "avatar". The link was maintained only if the individual remained in a trance/sleep-like state. Although both bodies in that movie were indeed physical, the latter body was much more so "magical" and local native tribe for which the bodies were genetically based on, the Na'vi, scarcely made contact with the humans.

[blis]

The Wheel Of Time series has, among other cool concepts, dreamwalkers and the world of dreams. I didnt know it when I got into the books but the author must have been into AP. The world of dreams(Tel'aran'rhiod) is basically the RTZ. The dreamwalkers can also drop out of dreams into the void or the starfield where each point of light is a different person's dream.

They're my favourite series of books and I dont usually like fantasy. I'd recomend them to anyone. The first book is more traditioal fantasy but after that are some of my favourite books ever. You need to read them in order though as it's one continuous story.


I've got a terrible memory for films but that one where robin williams goes to rescue his dead wife from her personal hell springs to mind. Cant remember if he's also dead or projecting though.

[Jarrod]

Shortly after finding out about astral projection I went to a university play on a field trip with my high school and AP was referenced in the play.  It startled me because I assumed that it was a very little known thing.  I can't recall the name of the play or even where it was at, just that it was about psychics that could read each other's minds.  My principal was caught off guard because he'd been expecting another play but once it started...all he could do was sit there and look uncomfortable, which was just as entertaining as the play.  Haha.  I've seen the term Astral Projection all over the place since then, in songs(mostly allusion), fantasy books, and sometimes it makes its way into the mainstream.

[AlanRK]

Yeah, once you find out what it is you slowly come to realise that everyone knows what it is on some level, and references to it are everywhere in our media and culture. The only reason it's more well "known (understood)" is that people simply don't care about it. "Out of body experience" and "astral" are both common concepts which any person will immediately understand, but somehow people have developed the uncanny ability to push these huge significant references to the back of their minds and file it under "non-interesting".

[Pauli2]

I think Lady Gaga's Poker Face contains binaural beats: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ht8ZjuFzlUc

[blis]

I think Lady Gaga's Poker Face contains binaural beats: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ht8ZjuFzlUc

Just listened to it with my headphones and I see what you mean. I can feel a pulse between my ears during the verse. Not the chorus though.

[personalreality]

brainwashing by mainstream media.

how can you not believe it if they're using binurals in their songs?

plus they've got a lot of transhumanism themes, preparing us for imminent micro-chipping.

[bardips]

just as a qualifier i'd like to point out that the main stream media would probably never cover AP or any similar topic.  black helicopters would fly out of bill oreilly's rear end live on the air before he would discuss something like this rationally. 

almost all spiritual topics have been relegated to the fantasy and fiction genres.

in fact, it's difficult to do deep research on the internet regarding spiritual topics and ancient tales because the top search results are pop culture fiction; both the pop culture fiction stories and the fan base discussing those stories dominate search results.

of course, the band tool's songs are prolific with astral references.

IMO, not humbly though, the reason that AP isn't well known is because of two parallel reasons:
1. most people are child-like and immature and don't care about anything deep or important
2. the mainstream is dominated with a political narrative and pointless entertainment, both serve to keep the public docile and childlike. 

gamers and tv viewers generally don't take anything seriously that they see on TV, so AP can be right in their face such as in your examples, and the gamers and tv viewers simply don't care.   they giggle and squirm on their sofa and their brain melts.

politically, however, the MSM can't bring up serious topics because politicians are in the business of oppression.  in other words, politicians would be out of a job if people could and would think for themselves. 

if pop culture cared at all for us consumers, then they would never air fantasy shows.  they would ask us what our lives have been like.  they would be asking us what our experiences have been like.  they would remind us that we are responsible for creating our own destiny; that our own destiny can be great but we have to get away from the boob tube and start creating a better future  and we have to start now.

astral projection is just one of myriad experiences that humans can have that "wakes us up" to our potential.  only one projection is required to shake up your worldview.  one projection causes us to think: "if AP is possible, then what else is possible?"  Astral projection puts the passenger in the driver's seat.  it makes people self-responsible.  it makes consumers curious.  it makes citizens defiant and it makes employees want to do other things besides work.

ultimately, a country filled with spiritually minded people would never tolerate tyranny or corruption, they would never be complicit with horrible foreign policies or national health crisis; there would be little or no need for politicians and mega corporations in this country and especially hollywood would be among the first to go because we would all be living our own greatest dreams and adventures.

and that is why, IMO, that nobody in the MSM discusses AP, among other things.

[Stillwater]

Yeah, once you find out what it is you slowly come to realise that everyone knows what it is on some level, and references to it are everywhere in our media and culture. The only reason it's more well "known (understood)" is that people simply don't care about it. "Out of body experience" and "astral" are both common concepts which any person will immediately understand, but somehow people have developed the uncanny ability to push these huge significant references to the back of their minds and file it under "non-interesting".

Yeah, I had seen images from when I was very young that depicted astral projection. When I was maybe 7 or 8, I saw a movie scene where a yogi was sitting in meditation on a Himalayan mountain, and his "astral awareness" went floating off, a shadowing double, still in lotus position, lol. I had the idea planted in my head that projection was at least a concept, perhaps a religious one. It was not until about 13-14 that I actually found all this literature, and found out it was something I myself could do, give enough time.

I think many of the people I have known in my adult time have known what projection was, in synopsis, but never developed an interest; perhaps it was because they too viewed it as some branch of spooky mysticism having no bearing on their lives. I think most of them would have wanted to do it themselves, if they could be convinced it was possible.