Is 2012 Coming Early?

Hyperdimensional · October 27, 2003, 23:00:01

You could change the future, that's one reason we have parallel universes

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Neo Schiavo · October 28, 2003, 16:39:05

I'd like to briefly mention that this is in response to the first two pages of this topic. I neglected to read the rest, as I am sure it is all BS.

I wouldn't doubt December 21, 2012 being the day of atonement, but whatever the outcome, I can assure you it is not the end of the world.

To back this up, I have some proof that life will continue. There is this elderly lady (pushing her nineties) in my neighborhood called Elaine that has been a psychic her whole life. In fact, her parents were psychics as well, as were their parents before them. Elaine has made countless predictions through her connection with the astral, most of which pertain to the troubled teenagers in our neighborhood. I know many people whom have paid to get "readings" from her, and guess what? Every single one came true. Whether it be car accidents or former friendship reunions, every single prediction followed as told.

Those were just short-term predictions, however, she has also dealt with distant events as well. Three of my friends were heavily drunk one night and went to see her for a "reading" (I constantly quote the word reading as I greatly dislike it). Was it about money? Nope. Sex? Not a chance. Did they ask about their future jobs? Absolutely not. They went to see her to ask when they would die. You heard right, they wanted to know the exact year, month, day, hour, minute and second they were going to die. Of course the answers they received weren't as linear as requested, they still got the point across. I will only tell the most interesting story:

Greg Guilbeault is nineteen, and probably smokes more marijuanna in a single week than Snoop Dogg smokes in a year. He smokes ciggarettes as well. Greg is currently missing two of his kneecaps and has had previous back injuries. Greg dropped out of school in his junior year and is clearly not going to be successful later in life. Judging from what you've read so far, it is obvious he will not live a very long and healthy life, or will he? That night, when he and the other two went to see Elaine, he was told he would live to be 88 years old and that the cause of his death would result from the most disasterous car-crash in the history of automobiles. The accident will take place on Route 77 (I have no clue where this is BTW) in the year 2082. Any other details on this are not present so what I have posted is all we have to go on.

Now what does this have to do with the "end of the world?" Everything, because if Greg Guilbeault really lives another eighty years, than the human race as a whole will also. And seriously I doubt that Elaine is wrong, as she is never is.

PS: If anyone is interested in learning more about Elaine, just let me know. I'll send the questions to her daughter, as Elaine herself has very few years to live.

Clow · October 28, 2003, 16:48:57

Might want to do your math on that one. So he was five years old when he was read. Keep in mind I do not think that there will ever be a end of the world I just think there will be a war against most of the Astral sometime soon. No end.

Clow · October 28, 2003, 18:01:18

heheh I don't even need this question answered anymore But I'll leave it up for you guys to debate over. I have infact while completley awake saw a Astral try to become physical so I know now that this will happen Early Thank you for posting on this Idea.

Anonymous · October 28, 2003, 21:22:52

Stewie: Oh I feel so delightfully white trash! Mommy, I want a mullet!

LOL sorry, couldn't resist.

nadinecdp · November 25, 2003, 19:41:23

ok, i know something is going on in this world, cause everything that is happening is mostly bad. i personally think that when we die, everyone goes to heaven, because life on earth is hell. the only way you get to come back is for a do-over, you didnt get it right the first time. i do beleive the change started this year, and i hope it is over soon.

goku22 · December 01, 2003, 09:43:41

I haven't read the entire thread, but the 2012 thing made me think of fictional sci-fi novel and gaming series called Shadowrun. In this world magic comes back to the world at 2012 and dragons, elves, dwarves, orcs, and wizards all become part of our earthly existence. I like the premise of magic coming back, but alot of stuff in the series would suck butt (mega-corporations controlling your every move, lots of evil magic thingies, etc...). Though I guess we do sort of have some of that already. Ben

Anonymous · December 01, 2003, 10:36:46

In the end, everything will be okay.

Neo Schiavo · December 01, 2003, 12:24:20

I just had a thought. I am sure all of you are familar with the Illuminati and their efforts towards the 'New World Order.' I am sure you all know the plans for the NWO, to rule the planet with one kingdom, under one religion, by rule of a supreme king. A counterfit of the Kingdom of God, if you belief in that. What you probably don't know (and I am really just guessing at this myself) is that members of this organization all contain the "alien gene." I believe that on the day of atonement (signs point to 12/21/2012) the Illuminati and its followers will rise up against the humans and bring about the New World Order. And unless we are prepared for that day, the human race will not survive.

Well, what do you think?

TheWanderer · December 02, 2003, 00:14:52

JustAPill, I'm a Christian, and from what I've pulled out of Revelations, a lot of what has been predicted has come to pass. Very few things are left. I remember one thing was the reformation of the New Israel, which happened in the middle of the 20th century. There are a few other things as well that I have long forgotten, as I researched this stuff years ago.

There's an interesting quote in the bible that pertains to Elijah, I believe. There was an army coming to attack him, and he panicked to God. God told him not to fear for his army is with him. He gave him the ability to TRULY see (polyvision), and what he saw were tons of angels and chariots and all kinds of warriors all over the landscape. Then, Elijah gained strength and realized that the human army wouldn't do any damage (and they didn't).

Souls don't go to the Astral when they're dead, and the Astral doesn't have all the answers. There are higher realms above the astral, such as the Mental and Causal Planes. Someone said that if somebody tells you in the Astral that such and such a thing is going to happen, it will happen. That isn't true at all as there are all kinds of deceitful beings in the Astral, just like there are in the physical.

Saying souls either go to 'heaven or hell' is too vague, as we don't understand what heaven or hell is at all, other than that you'd much rather be in one than the other. I'm sure they're both very complex.

And, good stories guys, we should compile all of your posts into a short story book and sell it as a fiction novel. Good thing you guys have creative minds and don't actually believe any of this stuff ... oh wait, you DO believe in this stuff! You damned fools. Dragons tears and ancient barries, ya, OK BUDDY! The only thing that I'll give you is that I feel something will happen in 2012 as well, considering the translations are accurate. If not, oh well. If there's demons, THEN BRING THEM ON. I'll go down fighting. You should all focus on the here and now, and improving yourself for what lies ahead in our futures, whatever that may be.

And Shenron, you wannabe demon, meet up with me sometime and we'll fight, and after you're lying unconscious on the ground you'll realize that your DBZ fantasies are just a myth. Idiot.

xander · December 02, 2003, 00:28:36

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Originally posted by TheWanderer

JustAPill, I'm a Christian. The only thing that I'll give you is that I feel something will happen in 2012 as well, considering the translations are accurate. If not, oh well. If there's demons, THEN BRING THEM ON. I'll go down fighting.

Now whose delusional?! LOL!!![

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Xander

SomeBloke · December 12, 2003, 06:43:29

kinesis_man · May 03, 2004, 11:18:41

this is way too late for anything to come up of this but this is what i think will happen and the causes that might be of effect...

the year 2012...is for some reason uneffected by time...as that no one can see the war coming but they all see it happening...as for the niburu or however you say it...will in fact be coming...{my opinion} and the "place" they are coming from is hell or the dimention of the demons.. and they build a machine very closely related to a wormhole and break into our world and try to take over...things will go on as planned... but thinigs will be different in a sense that we will be 4 dimentional and orks and dragons and the like will be living all around us... sorta like dragon ball or dragoon ball z with the dog people and the dinos running around and such...but you will also not be able to be like the cartoon as it is fake... but things could and will in my opinion be like it in a sense.

beavis · May 03, 2004, 11:45:06

Clow: Once again I say that I only want experiences and info on 2012 coming early.

Then you should look up relativity theory about time dilation. The time the Mayans said 2012 would be could be now or any other year close to 2012 on our calenders, because time moves at different rates for different places, and the Mayans couldnt have known everything that would happen to earth in their next 5000 years.

Yerzak06 · May 03, 2004, 19:36:27

you really cant associate bad things or bad feelings having anything to do with 2012 coming early. Its kind of like placing bets or having a feeling on who will win the super-bowl, just because events have something to do with the football game doesnt mean it will start early. All wars, physical and non-physical, have tensions build up before they actually start. Thats probly what yall are feeling.

kinesis_man · May 04, 2004, 07:49:21

i agree with yernak all the way on this one...maybe we all are feeling the war get closer to being real...if there is gonna be one....just like in the preseason for the football games you can feel who you think is gonna be playing at the superbowl and it may or maynot happen the way we feel.....

beavis · May 04, 2004, 10:16:58

Did the Mayans understand time dilation at all? If not, they were probably hundreds of years off. If they did, they'll only be a few years off.

kinesis_man · May 05, 2004, 07:33:10

well i dont know if this means nothing or not...but this is wat happened earier this morning as i was waking up....

you know how it is when you are first waking up?...the para-non-para state where you wanna stretch and sh** but after a few mins i felt i was back to sleep or obe...something like it...but only for a few secs..{this is normal to some and unique to others...me being the others} .... well that i though was fine...it has to happen sometime..since i am training to ap......well now it gets crazy....i started to black out every so oftern as if something was wrong around me...and i felt like i was being pulled down to the planet like the cells were all laying down..{u know what i mean???} ... then when i went to the college...{thats where i come to go online} it happened again....but this time i went obe for 10 mins...talking to some creature....dont know who ...but he said that its starting..over and over again...i asked him what was...ut he kept saying the same thing...its starting its starting...its starting.....{time for a headache}....then i snapted back ...cause i felt like moving my hand...{thats how i get back from ap and obe's...} and now here i am talking to you guys...

Clow · October 21, 2003, 16:09:51

O.k. It is known by many people that in the year of 2012 demons are going to attack our demension.(Some people don't beleive that so if you don't believe this then don't post I want some actual answers out of this.)

I have been seeing and senseing wierd things. The Astral or Spiritual becoming the Physical. Technicly this is not supposed to happen till year 2012.Infact what I saw I drew to make sure I wasn't dreaming I still have the picture. It looked almost like an Eyeball. My friend Josie is very good at phycic powers and has been sensing this kinda stuff.

So if you have any experiences put them down so I can try to figure this out. I am nowhere near ready.

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