For women

[Nagual]

Financial/Sentimental/anything Stability!!! [][]
Oops, I'm not really a woman... [|)]

[Gwathren]

quote:Originally posted by Nagual
Oops, I'm not really a woman... [|)]

No-no, if you feel like one, then please do not hesitate to answer the question[][]

[wisp]

I look for him to be over there, and me over here.It works best that way. []

The lesser the better. The more separated the better...or...call it independent living.

If one would happen to interest me? Good question, I'd have to think on that one.

[pyro4571]

whisp im just wondering, dont take offense at this, but are you a lesbian?

[Nay]

[:O] Wow pyro, where did THAT come from?...[]

P.S. see ya got a new avatar []

~Nay

[pyro4571]

[:I] yea sorry about that, it just popped into my mind.....
but yea do you like my new avatar? isnt it neat[], im still waiting on the other ones i sent in......

[SmileySpirit14]

LMAO!!!!

[pyro4571]

hey hey hey smiley, lets keep the posts meaningfull, no more one word posts for you. lol, there is a topic about this somewhere......

[Haematite]

He should be just...my soulmate[]
He should be mystic, tender, sad and vivid in the same time, melancolic, but with great sense of humour...the most special creature made to be with me...hmmm I don't see a point in being with anyone but him[:I]
Be safe all[]

[wisp]

Nicely said, Haematite! [] Soulmate is a good name for it. All or none, a good way to put it.

quote: whisp im just wondering, dont take offense at this, but are you a lesbian?

pyro,
Oh my no. Oops, I didn't mean to make that impression.

If my attitude about men are similiar to a lesbian, then there is a sexuality aspect that divides us. I am heterosexual but find men a little overbearing sometimes,anger issues most likely. Too many better things to do than struggle with what is nonsense or power plays.Women do it too, I don't play that game either. I find women manipulate, whereas men get angry. I don't like either!

At the risk of sounding lesbian again, I do appreciate men that express, or at least recognize their female side. Not in the boohhoohoo way (though a good cry is good for anyone every once in a while).And not in the emotional wreck sense, but one who is sensitive toward where the other person is coming from. This very thing is something I have to work on myself. I have a tendency to not appreciate the sensitivity of others, mainly because it can, and is often used for manipulation of others. I guess that's part of the male aspect I express/recognize in myself.

Men are good at fixing things mechanical, I like that a lot. That doesn't mean I'm sexually attracted to them.However, it would be a great asset to have in a relationship. I can fix things myself to an extent, but I have other things to think about and do.A lot of times it seems men enjoy fixing things, it's a burden to me. And yes, there is a sense of accomplishment, but I get so tired of life's lessons sometimes.I just want to take the easy way sometimes.

[pyro4571]

ahh i see. sorry about that. i have a few friends like that, they are not homosexual, but they dont want any type of relationship at all.
(i personally think that they have just not discovered girls yet. but oh well)
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[James S]

quote:Originally posted by wisp
At the risk of sounding lesbian again, I do appreciate men that express, or at least recognize their female side. Not in the boohhoohoo way (though a good cry is good for anyone every once in a while).And not in the emotional wreck sense, but one who is sensitive toward where the other person is coming from....

A lot of women do, I believe.
Being an empath from birth, I've had to learn to deal with emotions and sensitivity to them. At the risk of having become somewhat effeminate, I learned to use my female side - especially intuition, which I would not be without.

As a result of this though, I generally don't relate well to other guys, except, funnily enough, gays. All of those kind of things typically associated with overly testosteroned males just leave me shaking my head.

Having said that, I do have an active libido, and I am most definitely hetero.

James.

[TheLunatic]

Asking women what they want in a man isn't going to get you anywhere I assure you.

Women tend to think they want one thing when they act on the total opposite.

The bottom line is woman have no idea what they really want just as men have no idea what they really want in a woman.

Anyone who thinks they know will find out sooner or later how wrong they are when they get it and find they don't like it.

[Fat_Turkey]

Very well said, Lunatic.

Reminds me of the Ladder Theory, on the page with the pie graphs (for those who have read The Ladder Theory). 5% of what women look for in a man are those things that they say they look for in a man but truth be said nobody ever really knows what they want from the opposite sex, so that 5% gets aptly named as "Things women say they care about but don't."

Anyways, I'm still confused over the whole love thing. Chances are it's just a front for what's really going on - two people who get really horny from letting off too many pharamones, and then ending up with kids to keep the human race surviving.

My two cents...
~FT

[Gwathren]

quote:
If my attitude about men are similiar to a lesbian, then there is a sexuality aspect that divides us. I am heterosexual but find men a little overbearing sometimes,anger issues most likely. Too many better things to do than struggle with what is nonsense or power plays.Women do it too, I don't play that game either. I find women manipulate, whereas men get angry. I don't like either!

At the risk of sounding lesbian again, I do appreciate men that express, or at least recognize their female side. Not in the boohhoohoo way (though a good cry is good for anyone every once in a while).And not in the emotional wreck sense, but one who is sensitive toward where the other person is coming from. This very thing is something I have to work on myself. I have a tendency to not appreciate the sensitivity of others, mainly because it can, and is often used for manipulation of others. I guess that's part of the male aspect I express/recognize in myself.

Men are good at fixing things mechanical, I like that a lot. That doesn't mean I'm sexually attracted to them.However, it would be a great asset to have in a relationship. I can fix things myself to an extent, but I have other things to think about and do.A lot of times it seems men enjoy fixing things, it's a burden to me. And yes, there is a sense of accomplishment, but I get so tired of life's lessons sometimes.I just want to take the easy way sometimes.

So a kind man, who respects you just as much as you repect him will have no chance with you? Even when he is caring and loving and even tries to be your "soulmate"?

[Nagual]

So, should a couple be complementory or alike to succeed...?

[Haematite]

Gwathren - I read "Sinuhe" these days - great book...and "Turms" is also very good one[]

Well, for me I don't think that differences between males and females are so important - still gender is just a material shape...and that what we have in common is Soul. So I just search for a highspirited person and when I find him our souls will know and love eachothetr - no matter if he could fix the microwave or lift heavy objects[]
Still we all are unperfect creatures and it's important to love eachother inspite of our weaknesses - that's the true love: to know someone is damn unperfect but to love them so much anyway[]
Be safe

[Gwathren]

quote:Originally posted by Haematite

Gwathren - I read "Sinuhe" these days - great book...and "Turms" is also very good one[]

Did the idea come from my signature?[]

[absolutesunrise]

I married my "bestfriend".We have been tog. for 22 yrs,sooooooo I would answer your question as what to look for.....hmmmmmm.....a friend.







Peace...
      abs

[Kazbadan]

quote:Originally posted by Fat_Turkey

 5% of what women look for in a man are those things that they say they look for in a man but truth be said nobody ever really knows what they want from the opposite sex, so that 5% gets aptly named as "Things women say they care about but don't."

loool! Funny theory but a truly one i think.

A found what womens need (and mans too). It´s all about sex and sex: if you have the pysical and mental traits that "sugests" that you have good genes(DNA) in order to create a versatile/competent (in a Darwinistic view) son, you will be choosen(chased) by womens (or man if you are a women, homossexual, etc).

This is the main point. Now, about the mental traits (pyysical ones are obvious:nice shape, nice but, some aesthetical muscles etc) ar that womens are looking for: self-confident, a decisive person, an intelligent guy, maybe a sensite and efeminate guy, sometimes(in order to protect the baby- Darwinistic point of view), an energetic and brave man, someone able to fight against many things capable to protect women and give then what they want.

Now here is the problem: it is almost impossible to have this same qualities, and why? Because some of then are opposite qualities: yhey wich a macho style but many times they prefer an efeminate guy. This have a natural (Darwinistic, whatever) explanation: womens wich to have an efeminate guy in order to protect/create the baby, but they wich too a macho guy because they have the best genes (DNA) to offer).  

So, the ideal to women it would be, having to mans. In reality this is what happens: they have one type of man as being the boyfriend and they wich secretly, even for themselves, to have another guy (to complement the other one). It is not rare to womens, to look to other guys (even if they have byfrnd) or having phantasies with other man. Of courese they (womens) will argue that this is not correct because they not assume this even for thenselves.

For some similar reasons, men search for many womens too.

Scientifical Conclusion: Humans are poligamic beings.

BTW: i am a "$# bastard $%#$ f#$# (the symbols are bad words[}:)])that loves to say controversial things even if i dont believe on them []....i just love seeing people saying things like "What t..."[]

[TheLunatic]

quote:loool! Funny theory but a truly one i think.

This is the main point. Now, about the mental traits (pyysical ones are obvious:nice shape, nice but, some aesthetical muscles etc) ar that womens are looking for: self-confident, a decisive person, an intelligent guy, maybe a sensite and efeminate guy, sometimes(in order to protect the baby- Darwinistic point of view), an energetic and brave man, someone able to fight against many things capable to protect women and give then what they want.

Now here is the problem: it is almost impossible to have this same qualities, and why? Because some of then are opposite qualities: yhey wich a macho style but many times they prefer an efeminate guy. This have a natural (Darwinistic, whatever) explanation: womens wich to have an efeminate guy in order to protect/create the baby, but they wich too a macho guy because they have the best genes (DNA) to offer).  

Well I'd agree with some of that logic. I think it's alittle more than just DNA that determines peoples actions. I think it has a lot to do with social forces as well. I think that most people (men and women) don't even understand what controls their own actions in relation to sex and love.

I know by talking to a great deal of women than indeed there is a lot of contradictory thinking. For example I've head "I want someone strong but willing to share his feelings" After seeing many failed relationships and hearing both sides I've translated this to mean I want someone who is strong and never tell me anything negative that they are feeling and will only tell me the good feelings.

This is really confusing to men because women leave out the fact that they hate men who are honest when they aren't feeling well or are hurt by something.

The bottom line is that most women rely on their feelings and emotions to the point of insanity and any rationalization of what they want in men is totally inaccurate.

Of coarse if you're an butt it's so easy to control and manipulate women because of this fact. I guess it all boils down to what you want. Sex or love. Most guys just want sex and for those few of us who want love we mostly live lonely lives.

[Haematite]

Hehe - that's a popular theory[]
You could call me romantic silly girl, but I do believe there's someone born to meet me... And I'm monogam - if I like 1 person I can't look at another...If I can't find my soulmate it's hard to be with anyone at all[]

Gwathren - lol it's a coincidence to see your quote about Sinuhe - I've been reading that book some time before I saw you... still this could be a sign - you know some answers appear "by chance" from books, people or whatever you could imagine[]

Be safe[8D]

[pyro4571]

you know i once heard about this guy who finally figured out women...................................
but unfortunatly for the rest of us men.... he died laughing before he could tell anyone.[]

[Tayesin]

Hi All,
This is an interesting topic, both light hearted and deep at the same time.  Excellent.

I got to go with James S on the sensitive male not relating well with testicular-thinking menfolk.  There is only so long I can talk about cars, women, football etc etc.  So most of my conversations are with women who are awakening spiritually.  It's a hands down winner for interesting and stimulating adult level conversation.

Over the last 20 years I have noticed a trend here in Australia and wonder if it is repeated in other countries.  Women have steadily sought men who are strong, dependable and grounded in the older senses of that, and those men also need be sensitive, caring and understanding.  This has confused a lot of men.  So they see a choice there of a Manly-man versus s.n.a.g., and seemingly they cannot bridge the gap in a logical way.

Long overdue is a men's revolution.  Not the gay, pay or equal rights deal though, but one that allows for men to grow and be accepted in their society while they do so.  On the other hand, the women's movement has gained much that was needed for equality of the sexes, but, it has in many cases gone to an extreme.  Balance is required in all things.

At the start of Matriarchal societies in ancient times, there was a positive aspect to it that eventually grew to a negative aspect.  Which is when men took over and brought abuot the Patriarchal society we have now.  It also started in a positive way and has preogressed to it's negative aspects.  So many women think that it will next revert to a Matriarchal one again and eagerly look forward to the power of it.

What really needs to happen though, is that we decide to have a human society of equal people.  No more would one sex dominate the other as it has in history because we would choose to do something different.  

Man and Woman are two parts to the human picture on Earth, so that existence needs to be equality based in all aspects of our different natures.

Well, I've rambled on enough,
Love Always.[]

[Gwathren]

quote:Originally posted by Tayesin


Hi All,
This is an interesting topic, both light hearted and deep at the same time.  Excellent.

Thank you.[][]