The Former dwellers of the Earth.

[Sharpe]

I don't know if anyone here knows it.
But the pyramids of Giza form orion's belt.
And inside the chambers of the Giza pyramids there are openings that look like airconditioning pipes.
However these openings just aim straightly at orions belt and sirius the way it was 2.500 something BC, according to a documentary i saw.
I do not believe human's are older than 5.000 - 10.000 BC.
The idea of Aliens is just ridiculous though.
Life is too hard to form, you need all the perfect conditions, and according to scientists, there are 3 planets where life can exist in our galaxy.
Earth, Gliese 531c and I forgot the other one.
It's nearly impossible to travel outside our galaxy, we're just too small, and so are other life forms.

The idea of aliens is just nearly impossible in our galaxy.
And I think it's a waste of time to "assume" so.
Yes it could be true, but the chances are that we were alone building the pyramids and making calendars.

Imagine if u were living in the ancient Sumer civilisation, what would you assume all those "stars" resemble?
Why are they there, they must be gods.

[Awakened_Mind]

Humans are older than 10,000 years. It's civilisation thats in question.

"You'd expect some progressive development in a country. A car built in the 1920's is vastly different from a car built in todays times. In Egypt no such parallels can be made. It's all there right from the beginning." I liked that idea. 

Sharpe, why do you find the notion of aliens impossible. There are about 50 billion stars in this galaxy and an estimated 100 billion galaxies in the known universe. Each star representing it's own planetary solar system. That's 500,000,000,000,000,000,000 solar systems with potential life! I think the idea that there is no alien life is even more absurd than if there is, definitely more frightening.

Maybe there were no aliens but the statement that there's no other life in the galaxy is too egotistical. For the moment we should just assume that we have no 'concrete' evidence they do exist. People may argue this point, but to me when the species knows, we can say it is objective, not just a handful of individuals.

-AM

[Sharpe]

Life is like a fertalised egg in a female human being.
Only 1 out of millions of sperm get's "in".
So exaggerating with the ammount of solar systems doesn't mean anything.

The thing is that life could be on other galaxies, I did not deny that, but on the milky way there are like I said: 3 planets that could form life. Depending on the ammount of water on the planets, atmosphere and that they are inside the habitual zone for life.

And why mention other galaxies?
They are way too far away.

It's just ridiculous how people on this board talk about aliens as a "possibility".
We never saw them, we never heard them.

I'm open for the possibility that aliens are definitely there, but we never saw them nor heard them.
You should also be open for the possibility that they were never there, and they never existed.

So instead of blabbering about life on other planets, the smartest thing would be to wait untill we discover how life forms out of non-living matter.
Then, we can know if they exist or don't.

Sorry about the mistake on human existence/civilisation, I meant civilisation ofcourse.

[Stookie]

Remember when Shoemaker-Levy hit Jupiter back in 1994. That was awesome.

http://www.midnightkite.com/sl9.html

[Awakened_Mind]

You can't really take a stance on whether they exist or not with no evidence, for or against. That's my point.

-AM

[Sharpe]

Yeah exactly, that's my point aswell.

[volcomstone]

these dome shaped machines that sat on the soil of the planets and then a a blade the size of the dome was activated and it cut off part of the soil, which then filled the dome

have you ever seen the movie explorers? with ethan hawke as a kid (and river phoenix) anyway, their spherical force field took a big dome shaped chunk out of the earth.... 

[FadeEsdrasX]

That was a very very nice read
I'm glad you finished it

-Andrew

[AndrewTheSinger]

Hey, thanks for the videos and websites, they were great!

I specially enjoyed the excerpt from the Epic of Gilgamesh: Gilgamesh, what you seek you will never find, for when the Gods created man, they let death be his lot. Eternal life they withheld. Let your everyday be full of joy, love the child that holds your hand. Let your wife delight in your embrace, for these alone are the concerns of humanity.

I saw that movie volcomstone, I used to love it when I was young, I dreamed of creating some machine like that :}

Yes, I don't know exactly what process they used, but I know it has to do with God Harakhte.

God Harakhte is always depicted with the image of a red globe on his head. I believe that red globe to be planet Mars, and why is it on his head? Because that's where he is headed to.

Harakhte.

Harakhte! Great god, lord of heaven, lord of earth, who cometh forth from the horizon. He illuminateth the Two Lands, the sun of darkness, as the great one, as Re.
                                                                    Horemheb
J. H. Breasted, Ancient Records of Egypt, Part Three, § 3

Harakhte 2.

Let's take a look at the story.

There's one figure that couldn't possibly be there, the last one of the first row. It shows a snake, and inside the snake is a very familiar place, it shows the African Continent in the center as it was more than 5.000 years ago, part of Europe, and a small part of South America, as seen from space. They depict planets inside snakes.

Take your own conclusions folks.

[AndrewTheSinger]

Thank you for reading FadeEsdrasX.

[jason]

I haven't read the whole article yet-I'm in a library at the moment, & have limited computer time.

However, it's interesting that you mention Mars-

The Cydonia "city square", & surrounding formations are laid out exactly like the Pleiades (nearby star cluster).The "face" corresponds to the location of a certain star in relation to the pleiades at it was 17,500 years ago.

www.thehiddenrecords.com/mars.htm

I don't endorse the beliefs of the above link-I just thought the coincidence was interesting.

[AndrewTheSinger]

Wow, that is extremely interesting, that guy is doing an excellent job. I had no idea about these things on the martian sphinx. I liked it when he spoke about the spherical hole on the forehead of the sphinx, wish there were more people talking about these 'impact craters', so that at least the interested public realizes that it's the biggest astronomical and geological lie ever told.

Check out this picture of Cydonia Mensae, take a look at the structure on the upper part of the left side, the perfect polygon:
Cydonia

[AndrewTheSinger]

Yes, resembles Merisee 

Who thought this? Don't be afraid, I come in peace  just want to know who sent that thought, I've never been a fan of Star Wars, so I had never heard of that, I think...

[rygoody]

plausible

I think you could reveal more truth on this subject if you put some more context to this
if this was proven true, undeniable evidence. If it was just a matter of you presenting some evidence to someone to believe this.
What would that cause to happen?

[AndrewTheSinger]

Yes, I kinda rushed straight to the point when I could have made some more in-depth considerations. Only I didn't want to get too much into giants or other controversial races, I preferred to focus more on the tangible aspects, though there's plenty of evidence that supports the existence of giants in the past.

For instance, I learned a week ago about how they once tried to remove the Pedra Montada from there for whatever reasons (stupid), so they sent a crane and trucks to the hill, and even the people of the news service were there to witness, but they were not able to move the stone lol.

We have Archeological registers of only native Indians inhabiting this land for at most 12.000 years, then the first European colonizers arrived 500 years ago. If the Indians were somehow magically able to move huge stones, why were they living in shacks made of dry grass when the colonizers arrived? There's something very important that has been missed, it certainly weren't the Indians who moved those incredible stones.

The funny thing is that this what has been missed changes virtually everything about the past of our planet. Have they created everything? Why did the dinosaurs disappear, were they removed from the planet?

We need to keep in mind that we are small, all we have to do to realize this is to look at the dimensions of the Universe, so, to them, dinosaurs are like what geckos are to us.

I don't know what is going to happen, I personally don't think that whoever they were/are, they are coming back in 2012 or planning a mass destruction, that would be plain stupid, because if we look at this through the view of spirituality, we could be reincarnating here and there, living both as small humans and giants. We wouldn't even be able to tell the difference, because a giant is only a giant when compared to something much smaller, so among themselves on their own planet/dimension they are not giants at all.

The structures are there, and our current model cannot explain them, it doesn't even try to explain them, it totally ignores them, so it needs to be replaced by a model that is willing to face the reality and stops trying to push a false one.

Probably the most important thing is to raise the general awareness and to stir a discussion. There are so many people out there thinking that life is not worth living anymore, and they still have no idea how fantastic our world is, or how incredible it's story is. Life itself is incredible, and this chance is priceless, nothing can be more important than this.

[rygoody]

Supposing physical occurances that may come back around, like the giants returning in 2012, could be of value. But theres an issue in thinking that direction in that physical manifestation, especially involving actions of 'other', is only controlled in small by an individual.

When I think of context for potentially crazy evidence, I think of it in terms of implications directly to me, then through me what I could present. So that I am not wasting energy focusing on uncontrollable variables.

Giants? Maybe. From Mars? maybe. Is there anything entirely in your control to present the evidences of this? No. So it's largely still up to the decisions of chaos, in an out of your context magickal way. So investing too much energy into such a thought direction would be inconsequential as you may just be falling into a recursive loop of thought, that within in it, provides you no direct means of control to get out of it. Although, there will be value to complete the loop of thought once, maybe twice, but recognize when you start to go in circles.

Personally, for me, if there was inarguable evidence that men of 2000 years ago were capable of incomprehensible physical construction feats, with no apparent evidence of fantastic technologies, no apparent evidence of physical ability to do so. I would suppose a relation to telekinesis. Which is exactly what I did when I read this thread.

Is such a direction of thought more sane than what you did? Not so much so, maybe even less sane. But the supposition of possibly a highly developed, natural, telekinesis ability of old civilizations provides a direction of thought that is immediately justifiable and potentially evidenced by your immediate felt experience. Something that, when you think about it, muster up the energy for it, it will not just set you back around in a recursive loop of thought expending all that energy you built up trying to comprehend evidence. But instead it will present a point, a single point forward, in which you must focus that energy built up to evidence your supposition. The energy would be focused in the direction of you developing a telekinetic ability. Sort of how in astral projection, you must believe with all your underlying unconscious that you can, it is the same process for all magickal process to a degree. You must fully and unconsciously believe in the possibility. But in the least, atleast the evidence to release you of this 'insanity' is still all within your control, which IMO, makes it entirely more sane. It's ok to go to greatest depths of insanity if you still have a directly controllable tether to pull you back.

Do I believe in telekinesis personally? I don't know. But it feels better to use the energy of your evidence to project into a single immediately controllable point, then have it keep pushing around in circles.

I have read theories of people supposing in the conscious shift of 2012, some people will develop a high level of natural telekinetic ability. I have read some channelers of 'future times' to come questioning on whether or not there may be a way to harness energy, electricity, or other, directly from human energy and they were quite pleased with my supposition of 2012 telekinetic ability paired with a telekinetic generator of electricity of some sort.

Crazy, I know. But at least the energy presented is used to push immediately forward.

Although, don't misunderstand, I'm not saying telekinetic supposition is the only way to use such energy presented to push forward immediately. But I do see your mind wandering in circles of unknown with no hopes of finding a grounds in the direction to go. I mean consider for a moment if they actually found a fossil skeleton of a giant, presented it on the news, everyone saw it, believed it. It completely rearranged the way people saw the progression of humanity, even made some great new suppositions on where to head research. Would that fix all the problems in the world you perceive? Altering perceptions of history will only do so much for the future. Telekinetic evidence however would fix more problems I believe. But don't misunderstand, I'm not saying start tK practice or believe it. I'm just presenting an example to say, aim all energy you gain through music, evidence, news, everything, towards a single thing that you can manifest completely of your own individuality.

Which you did in your first post which was good. But how will you be able to take that first post with you throughout everyday life to help shape the future?

Or maybe you do sense a potential grounds in that direction of thought?

[Mez]

dude... what are you on about?

anyways...

The structures are there, and our current model cannot explain them, it doesn't even try to explain them, it totally ignores them, so it needs to be replaced by a model that is willing to face the reality and stops trying to push a false one.

Personally, for me, if there was inarguable evidence that men of 2000 years ago were capable of incomprehensible physical construction feats, with no apparent evidence of fantastic technologies, no apparent evidence of physical ability to do so. I would suppose a relation to telekinesis. Which is exactly what I did when I read this thread.

I fell into the same trap... we see these giant stones and think that its impossible that little men must have moved them and what not and then people go on to suppose things such as giants, telekinesis, high technology...

Im glad I found the real answer. Geopolymerization. The rocks were not quarried, carved then transported. They were made in the exact spot where they are by the process of geopolymerization. In short they were not quarried, transported and shaped rather they were set like concrete and moulded with primitive tools while still soft then left to cure (harden).

http://www.margaretmorrisbooks.com/giza_power_plant_meltdown.html

Geopolymerization explains all ancient masonry.

[Bird]

Yes, imagine someone of the future finds one of our concrete buildings and wonders how we moved them there in one piece, lol.

But here is an other interesting article about a hypothesis of a different gravity in the past.

It's about dinosaurs, giant plants and stuff like that.
Maybe your giants really existed in the past, but it's unlikely that they can come back.

Saturnian Cosmology

Part 1 - The Golden Mesozoic Age

Thesis: We propose that Earth was a satellite of Saturn, or more
correctly a body which the ancients identified as Ouranus and which we
shall refer to as proto-Saturn. The present day Saturn is all that
remains of the once larger primary which we orbited as the closest and
innermost satellite



The most obvious characteristic of Mesozoic flora and fauna was the
upper limit of size. Pangaea's forests contained giant lycopods,
horsetails and pteridophytes, trees over 100m in height. Today the
survivors of these primitive groups are mostly small plants; the
tallest fern is only 20m high, and height is only achieved by the
conifers and flowering plant trees with specially strengthened trunks
and good root systems[26]. The dinosaurs produced the largest
terrestrial animals the world has ever known. Some weighed more than
80 tonnes, as much as 20 large elephants, but old views that they were
slow, clumsy animals have been superseded by evidence that they were
fast, active and probably warm-blooded[27],[28]. The weight which a
column can support varies as the cube of its linear dimensions[29] and
therefore the heavier the animal, the proportionally shorter and
thicker the limb bones. The dimensions of an elephant's limb bones are
approaching the maximum limits of size which physical forces permit
and are already tending towards disproportionate thickness[30]. Yet
dinosaurs were of such a degree of magnitude heavier, that the larger
herbivorous sauropods were traditionally thought of as wallowing
permanently in swamps to take the weight off their feet[31][32].
However, there is evidence that they were completely terrestrial[33]
and the large, bipedal carnosaurs, such as Tyrannosaurus, were
manifestly built for running with hind limbs more slender in
proportion to their bulk than those of an elephant. If gravity were
less, then animals could be larger and still be active with relatively
more slender limbs than an elephant[34]. The Pterosaurs, or flying
reptiles, are another case in point. Fossil specimens with wing spans
up to 8m were once regarded to be at the limit of size for any
airborne creature, even given that their bone structure was even
lighter and stronger size for size than modern birds. Then
Quetzalcoatlus specimens were found with wing spans up to 15.5m and
pronounced at beyond the engineering limits for a living flying
machine[35]. Recent considerations of the circulatory systems of the
larger dinosaurs suggest that the normal heart/lung construction would
be insufficient to keep the brain supplied with oxygenated blood[36].
The problem of explaining away the apparent defiance of physical laws
by so many of the Mesozoic plants and animals is solved easily by an
assumption of lowered gravity. Is it just coincidence that such forms
of life should be abundant at the very period when all the continental
areas were grouped into one land mass ?

[AndrewTheSinger]

You made some good points rygoody, I'm open to all possibilities that can be proven somehow. It was interesting what you said about directing the energy to something that is under my control, I think it all leads back to ourselves and what we're doing here on Earth. It's hard to say how it will affect the future, but it certainly gave me a better sense of appreciation, and many of my past experiences started making sense, like this was the missing piece of my puzzle. On the other hand I recognize the loop you talk about, and I'm more at ease about it now as I understand that whatever happened is in the past, and I need to go on from here the best way that I can.

[AndrewTheSinger]

Mez, to make such an statement you need to verify the mineral composition of all the megaliths.

I must point out that Egyptologists don't agree with Davidovits when he says that the stones of the pyramids were man-made. Anyways, to produce a geopolymer in order to build megaliths you need a good supply of silica. In Egypt, on the casing stones of the Cheops and Teti pyramids they have found considerable amounts of Opal-CT, which is a by-product of amorphous silica, mixed with limestone. Now here's the problem, amorphous silica is not commonly found in good quantities on the surface of our planet, and it wasn't found on the Egyptian quarries.

Where did the Egyptians get that substance to make their cement? It's a mystery.

Though the natives have a beautiful culture, there's no evidence to support the idea that they were producing cement, neither thousands of years ago nor today. If this was the case one would expect to find at least workmanship made of cement, pavements and the like. It's very unlikely that the temples of Sacsayhuaman, Tiahuanaco, Baalbek,  the megaliths at Nabta and Stonehenge were made by the pouring of a geopolymer, as their quarry sites have all been identified. Also, you cannot use cement to build high structures without the use of internal rods of sustentation, and these were never found.

Are humans the tallest beings in the Universe?

http://www.geocities.com/saqatchr/page45.html
http://www.returnofthenephilim.com/GiantsInHistory.html
http://www.geocities.com/TheTropics/Lagoon/1345/giants.html
http://www.mysteriousworld.com/Journal/2003/Summer/Giants/
http://www.pureinsight.org/pi/index.php?news=3891

The False Front: http://www.skybooksusa.com/time-travel/experime/thefalse.htm

Temporal anomalies are scattered throughout the world -- things that could not possibly belong to the time period in which they were found.  Evidence exists of human civilization, artifacts and technology out of time that are abundant, well researched and well documented.

This forbidden knowledge is being protected and hidden from all of us.  Today's popular view of modern human presence in the distant past is a false front.  The real truth is out there showing proof of advanced technology and people millions of years before humanity is stated to have evolved on the planet.

Why has the scientific establishment and government suppressed and ignored these remarkable finds?  Where did they come from?  How did they get there?  Why are we suppressing this suggestive proof of modern time travelers visiting our past?

As you study the forbidden knowledge on these pages a whole new truth will emerge and become apparent to you... the truth that the earth was visited or inhabited by modern humans using advanced technology long before the appearance of the first humans as the history books write today.

[AndrewTheSinger]

Yes, imagine someone of the future finds one of our concrete buildings and wonders how we moved them there in one piece, lol.

Concrete buildings are not natural mineral accretions.

Thanks for the link.

[Mez]

Mez, to make such an statement you need to verify the mineral composition of all the megaliths.

I must point out that Egyptologists don't agree with Davidovits when he says that the stones of the pyramids were man-made. Anyways, to produce a geopolymer in order to build megaliths you need a good supply of silica. In Egypt, on the casing stones of the Cheops and Teti pyramids they have found considerable amounts of Opal-CT, which is a by-product of amorphous silica, mixed with limestone. Now here's the problem, amorphous silica is not commonly found in good quantities on the surface of our planet, and it wasn't found on the Egyptian quarries.

Where did the Egyptians get that substance to make their cement? It's a mystery.

I must point out that Egyptoligists also dont agree with theories of giants or high technology. Did you read the entire page from that link? Its long, I know but it does explain everything in detail. I (and margeret morris agree) that you do indeed need to do a chemical analysis of the stones in question to verify 100% that they are indeed geopolymers. I am aware of the silica issue but that doesnt rule out the use of geopolymerization.

Though the natives have a beautiful culture, there's no evidence to support the idea that they were producing cement, neither thousands of years ago nor today. If this was the case one would expect to find at least workmanship made of cement, pavements and the like. It's very unlikely that the temples of Sacsayhuaman, Tiahuanaco, Baalbek,  the megaliths at Nabta and Stonehenge were made by the pouring of a geopolymer, as their quarry sites have all been identified. Also, you cannot use cement to build high structures without the use of internal rods of sustentation, and these were never found.

Theres no evidence of high technology either. Infact there is more evidence that geopolymerization was used. It was not neccessary for the geopolymers to have been poured into moulds infact it was very impractical and unlikely. However evidence such as cuts bearing traces of copper in stones harder than copper have been found in several places... how did they cut a stone harder than their instrument? It was softer than their instrument at the time they were cutting it. Indeed even if they WERE giants its still impossible for them to cut granite with copper (unless of course it was soft at the time suggesting geopolymerization. Secondly if they had high technology they would not be using copper instruments. You reckon they would have made pavements? *shrugs* maybe that just wasnt their style... Also look at how closely the pyramid stones are placed within 1/500th - 1/800th of an inch... conventionally we cant explain how they did it... suppose geopolymerization were used the stone would have been soft enough to mould to the contours of its surrounding stones giving such a tight fit. Actually machining a stone to that precision and trying to fit it into place like that would be a very difficult waste of time, this theory supposes they had high technology which none has been found. As for the quarry sites... all questions need an answer real or imagined so they HAD to find a quarry site to support their theories... who knows? Good point though but it doesnt rule out geopolymerization.

As for the megaliths... a chemical analysis must be done! I wish one was because I really want to know once and for all. However On that page I linked to I read that on a particular megalith there was something carved (dont remember the details) and close inspection revealed that surrounding particles of the rock had been pushed out of the way rather than chiseled out which would have damaged the stone... no evidence was present to suggest chiseling of hard stone. This leads to the conclusion that the stone was infact soft when the carving was made suggesting geopolymerization.

You and I arent experts on the subject... but if you look at the arguments supporting geopolymerization in full (http://www.margaretmorrisbooks.com/giza_power_plant_meltdown.html) they are very compelling and very logical. Seriously this is the most plausable explanation for a LOT of things! What good will it do you to discard it in favor of other theories without considering it?

I do beleive giants did exist, I wish that historians would acknowledge it! Michael Tsarion has a lot of interesting things to say on atlantis, aliens, giants and high technology. I am undecided on the actual history of the world/universe but I do take everything into consideration (except young earth creationism... LOL).

The false front fascinates me i've seen it before and it is certainly remarkable. Whats amazing is that the finds are numerous.

[AndrewTheSinger]

I must point out that Egyptoligists also dont agree with theories of giants or high technology. Did you read the entire page from that link? Its long, I know but it does explain everything in detail. I (and margeret morris agree) that you do indeed need to do a chemical analysis of the stones in question to verify 100% that they are indeed geopolymers. I am aware of the silica issue but that doesnt rule out the use of geopolymerization.

I definitely don't rule out geopolymerization, I believe Davidovits is right, but there are many implications to that. For instance, where did that knowledge come from? How did these people from ancient times decided to mix substances and build the most incredible and complex structure the world has ever seen? With styles of drawing, script, architecture and social organization of no precedent?

Yes, I read the whole thing, they are talking specifically about Egypt. It wouldn't be sensible to say that the same applies to all megaliths around the world, for they are clearly of different natures, styles, time periods, and unlike in Egypt, most of the civilizations that built the other megaliths remain unidentified.

Theres no evidence of high technology either. Infact there is more evidence that geopolymerization was used. It was not neccessary for the geopolymers to have been poured into moulds infact it was very impractical and unlikely. However evidence such as cuts bearing traces of copper in stones harder than copper have been found in several places... how did they cut a stone harder than their instrument? It was softer than their instrument at the time they were cutting it. Indeed even if they WERE giants its still impossible for them to cut granite with copper (unless of course it was soft at the time suggesting geopolymerization. Secondly if they had high technology they would not be using copper instruments. You reckon they would have made pavements? *shrugs* maybe that just wasnt their style... Also look at how closely the pyramid stones are placed within 1/500th - 1/800th of an inch... conventionally we cant explain how they did it... suppose geopolymerization were used the stone would have been soft enough to mould to the contours of its surrounding stones giving such a tight fit. Actually machining a stone to that precision and trying to fit it into place like that would be a very difficult waste of time, this theory supposes they had high technology which none has been found. As for the quarry sites... all questions need an answer real or imagined so they HAD to find a quarry site to support their theories... who knows? Good point though but it doesnt rule out geopolymerization.

Speaking exclusively about Egypt, it is possible that they used both geopolymers and high technology: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wzh_04peCI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSoH7YANptM

They have found these depictions showing how they illuminated the pyramids from the inside using artificial light.

Ancient Egyptian Lightbulb: http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/chaptera/

Excerpt: If people were misled, it is their own fault for being naive enough to expect the truth from Government and Politicians that have steadily increased their ability to lie to the people since 1861.

As for the megaliths... a chemical analysis must be done! I wish one was because I really want to know once and for all. However On that page I linked to I read that on a particular megalith there was something carved (dont remember the details) and close inspection revealed that surrounding particles of the rock had been pushed out of the way rather than chiseled out which would have damaged the stone... no evidence was present to suggest chiseling of hard stone. This leads to the conclusion that the stone was infact soft when the carving was made suggesting geopolymerization.

You and I arent experts on the subject... but if you look at the arguments supporting geopolymerization in full (http://www.margaretmorrisbooks.com/giza_power_plant_meltdown.html) they are very compelling and very logical. Seriously this is the most plausable explanation for a LOT of things! What good will it do you to discard it in favor of other theories without considering it?

Indeed, I very much like the geopolymer idea, I don't understand why you think that I don't. If I didn't I wouldn't have quoted Davidovits on the article.

I do beleive giants did exist, I wish that historians would acknowledge it! Michael Tsarion has a lot of interesting things to say on atlantis, aliens, giants and high technology. I am undecided on the actual history of the world/universe but I do take everything into consideration (except young earth creationism... LOL).

The false front fascinates me i've seen it before and it is certainly remarkable. Whats amazing is that the finds are numerous.

Thanks for your contributions, I will look for Michael Tsarion. I'd like to recommend the The Greek Apocalypse of Baruch, it's easy to find on the web, I found it so amazing and absurd that it must be true!