Nibiruans--are they the fabled "demons?"

[WalkerInTheWoods]

quote:ps you know, I have read so many different explanations for what people say happened in the past, but they all seem to be contradictory!

That is just the thing. How do you know who to believe? I have read many things without really looking into this subject, and many are contradictory. That is why I feel I have to go with the path that is based on the facts at hand, even if other things are possible they need the facts to back them up.

[TheWanderer]

You guys need to get your heads out of the clouds -- Nibiru?  What the hell?  I know there's a 10th planet, but do you know what it is?  Nothing.  It's just like Pluto, just a hunk of crap floating in space.

You can go and accept crazed authors books as fact if you wish, but truth be told, there is absolutely no proof ( just distorted assumptions ) of any other civilization's existence.  

Leyla, that face on Mars was just because of the shadows and angle the picture was taken. Pictures of the same area taken at a different time show it just looks like hills, a regular landscape.

I actually heard that the "new" pictures of that face are fakes meant to throw off the public.  There's some decent research on that theory on the web -- however, unlike you folks, I'm not passing it off as fact.  It's just a possibility.

[Jeff_Mash]

quote:Originally posted by TheWanderer

You guys need to get your heads out of the clouds -- Nibiru?  What the hell?  I know there's a 10th planet, but do you know what it is?  Nothing.  It's just like Pluto, just a hunk of crap floating in space.

You can go and accept crazed authors books as fact if you wish, but truth be told, there is absolutely no proof ( just distorted assumptions ) of any other civilization's existence.  

Leyla, that face on Mars was just because of the shadows and angle the picture was taken. Pictures of the same area taken at a different time show it just looks like hills, a regular landscape.

I actually heard that the "new" pictures of that face are fakes meant to throw off the public.  There's some decent research on that theory on the web -- however, unlike you folks, I'm not passing it off as fact.  It's just a possibility.

I am not one to spew forth "crap" as a fact.  However, I find humor in observing that just as these guys are talking about these things as fact, you too are claiming the opposite as being a fact, when truth be told, you have the same amount of "proof" to back up your claim as they do.

I think No_Leaf_Clover brought up some good points in his response above (third down from the top).  Regardless of whether you believe it or not (the jury is still deliberating this one for me), I think it's just as silly for you to say, "It's all crap" as it is to say, "It's a fact that aliens built these pyramids."

The only facts I know for sure is that I don't know everything and never will.

[no_leaf_clover]

I try not to 'spew forth forth crap as a fact' but I know that I come across to a lot of people as having absolutely no doubt that what I'm saying is true. Just because I think something is true doesn't mean anyone else has to think the same or even that what I believe is true. I post things that I feel are right with intentions of providing information, or at least catching someone's interest, etc., without going as far as, say, a certain member that we had a while back that was well known for his insistance on his certainty of his ultimate truth. If someone looks into what I'm always rambling about with reading books and studying astronomical oddities and finds it to seem valid enough for them, or maybe they just become familiar with the idea, that's great, and if I what I happen to believe is true, I may have just aided someone and therefore all of us. If not, that's perfectly fine and I realize I could be horribly mistaken. Maybe I'll even end up with Satan in Hell. But until I find something more reasonable, I'll stick with what I believe and I won't be shy about it. I don't subscribe to such things just because they're a neat idea or because I like the attention associated with it.

I'm curious as to what TheWanderer's motivations were when he posted those messages. I'd like to think his intentions are for the best when he posts regarding things he doesn't subscribe to and that he's offering new ideas rather than simply wanting to bash the current ideas held by some people. Maybe it's just me but that message felt a little assertive. [8D]

I don't have time to say much else tonight. My typing lags, so blame any typos on that. Sleep well or good morning/evening, wherever you are.

NLC

[TheWanderer]

I can't offer you any clear-cut alternatives to our origins or what-not, because quite frankly, I'm in no place to be discussing those matters.  Heck, I haven't met one person that is qualified to discuss those matters with factual information.  They're all assumptions -- and trust me, your opinion is one of millions relating to ET origins.

However, I believe in applying Occom's Razor -- the simplest explanation IS the explanation.  Rather than complicate things with wild fantasies of aliens and genetic engineering, realize that it's too complicated and out there with your common sense, and accept that our existence is most likely a much, much more simpler thing.

[nthjbam]

Haha!

Jeeze guys, this started out being all about fun, friends, and intergalactic domination.  You twisted it all up, hate the game not the player... jeeze.  LOL  Wanderer we're just postulating on things we of course have no conclusive proof of, thus the postulating.  It's fun to think about things you have no grasp of, because these are the things which force us to become more than we are, go further, think harder etc etc.  It's just a catalyst for thought and creativity.  Now whether or not there is any truth to the situation is irrelevant, as long as we enjoy it.  I'm not demarcating you for your actions, but please don't walk into the middle of our party and start throwing feces at the waiters, capice?  haha anyways, you, just like any other member is more than welcome to join us, but don't start a fight please.  Oh yes also, I'm not going one way or another, but do you really think Darwinism is the simplest answer to how we came to be?  It's pretty complicated, regardless.  anyways, play nice all of you, otherwise the gloves are coming off.

Be well,
J

[TheWanderer]

I'm not really sure about evolution, though there is definitely not enough proof out there for me to accept it ( as so many other scientists gingerly do ).  I actually anticipate the day that Atlantis is finally discovered ( and there is a possibility that it has been from research that I've been doing, National Geographic will begin working with the researchers this summer ), just so it can rewrite history and make Darwin roll in his grave.

The simplest explanation, in my opinion, is that we were created by a Creator.  Evolving from primordial ooze?  No.  That's ridiculous.

Rather than waste time speculating, why not meditate and work on AP techniques?  Once you get to the point where you can get long, controlled APs, then perhaps you can visit the Akashic Records ( and more than one person ought to do this so claims can be validated ).  The answers are all in there.

[Aries]

Im not sure what I think on evolution, except for that we already have great power,just not the knowledge to use it all. I think that whatever our true origins may be, it would be hard to gain any information on them unless at the "akashic library"
I think that the goverment knows whats going on with pretty much everything and that we have all been raised to believe in evolution and made to beleive AP isnt possible and there is no such things as aliens just because the goverment thinks its whats best.
I agree with no_leaf_clover on most of things he says as far as other life and the nibiruns (how ever its spelled)

I thought they found atlantis, or may have...  They found this 311 mile city off the coast of japan that they think may have been atlantis.
-Aries

[Rob]

"Rather than waste time speculating, why not meditate and work on AP techniques?"

Because your realisations are not everybody elses. Its a big world out there, and I'm a firm believer that you get out what you put in. Would you have told darwin not to bother looking into this new evolution thing? Just because we are not the discoverers doesn't mean we cant think about these topics. Its good flexing of the mind, and its a good way for people to break standard thinking.

aho!

Rob

[Neo Schiavo]

In light of 12/21/2012, I have been doing research on the many possible scenarios I have heard.  From rising oceans to demon attacks, from polar reversals to dimensional plane collisions.  I am trying to piece it all together and at one point, I felt I was getting close--that is, unitl came upon the Nibiruans.  Are they the ones whom will take over this planet?  Are they the fabled demon attack?  It just doesn't make sense.