What do you think of marijuana and the idea of it being legalized.

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Ihavewings

I just want to know what do you think of the plant its self, and in addition you can share your views on it being legalized.

mindflood

it should be legal.
its a plant that you can consume without having to chemicaly refine like opium, its a natural right.
No one has ever died from an overdose. It fuels drug wars and violence.
Its not the best thing for your memory or clear thinking, but for w/e reasons people chose to use it is noones buisness especially not the goverments.
ARE YOU GOING TO ACCEPT THE BASIS OF A WORLD WITH-OUT!?

"how long shall I be with you" -Gospel of Matthew

Volgerle

it's a good medicine, it even could cure cancer, of course it should be legalised, but it won't as long as BIG PHARMA has a say in the matters, that won't happen too soon

mindflood


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Idk about that. THe last time it was on the ballot in california its lost but by a very close match. The next time it is on the ballot three states(washington, colorada) will vote whether or not to legalize it instead or just california.

Also the use of it in films and many, many documentaries is altering the overall view of marijuana.
ARE YOU GOING TO ACCEPT THE BASIS OF A WORLD WITH-OUT!?

"how long shall I be with you" -Gospel of Matthew

desert-rat

I say legalize it also , but there are too many people in gov. that are making money on it being illegal . Ever one would have a pot plant in there garden if it were legal .  Med. pot was aproved by the voters hear in my US state of Arizona , but first the govonor fought it and now the state atg. gen. is fighting it . As long as certain people are making money on it being illegal , it will stay that way .  desert rat 

todd421757

I would not want it to be legalized. I could not imagine smelling 2nd hand marijuana smoke all day long. It is a terrible smell.

desert-rat

On secound hand smoke ,  many years ago my sistor lived with this lady and a local Phoenix  band . A young lady and me visited my sistor , she admired the nice dragon on a set of bongs . We did not smoke any thing , but others were . The next day she called me asking what had happned , she had no  conscious memory of that day , she got high on secound hand smoke . Its a burning leave smell , I smell it on occasion .   desert rat 

Xanth

Putting the "smoking" aspect of it aside for a second... the plant itself has so many varied uses.

For example:  http://www.informationdistillery.com/hemp.htm

But that only scratches the surface of it.

A hemp industry would completely redefine our society.  I read somewhere that if you farmed 8% of the US landmass as hemp, you could use the oils and do away with our gasoline dependency.

Honestly, before anyone condemns it... do a bit of research first.  It's quite literally the saviour plant.

desert-rat

On hemp , it is my understanding that is was the cotton farmers that helped get marijuna made illegal . It competed with cotton , and makes  better rope .  I believe there are t shirts made of hemp you can buy . desert rat 

Xanth

Quote from: desert-rat on September 06, 2012, 20:46:29
On hemp , it is my understanding that is was the cotton farmers that helped get marijuna made illegal . It competed with cotton , and makes  better rope .  I believe there are t shirts made of hemp you can buy . desert rat 
A lot of industries would fall if we farmed hemp.

Gasoline...
Paper...
Cotton too, yes...

And many others.

Made O pHI

I agree with Xanth here. A LOT of industries would fall.
And aside from that, people don't know how to use it as a recreational drug.
If it was legalized we would have so many people that just smoked and smoked everyday, not doing anything.
In turn, hindering our spiritual development.
Maybe if we learned how to use things in moderation for recreation the laws against marijuana would change.
"Do not allow yourselves to be disheartened by any failure
as long as you have done your best."
~Mother Teresa


desert-rat

On industries that might be hurt by the legalization of pot .  I would think beer , wine , and hard liq. consuption would go down .    Why buy a 30 pac of bud when you can grow your own pot for free ? I have also heard    the distilers ind. is behind keeping marijuana  illegal . desert rat 

personalreality

legal.

it's safer than alcohol.

it's only illegal because it threatened the timber industry back in the day.  hemp makes much better paper than trees.
be awesome.

Stookie_

"Legalize It" by Peter Tosh

QuoteLegalize it - don't criticize it
Legalize it and i will advertise it

Some call it tampee
Some call it the weed
Some call it Marijuana
Some of them call it Ganja

Legalize it - don't criticize it
Legalize it and i will advertise it

Singer smoke it
And players of instruments too
Legalize it, yeah, yeah
That's the best thing you can do
Doctors smoke it
Nurses smoke it
Judges smoke it
Even the lawyers too

Legalize it - don't criticize it
Legalize it and i will advertise it

It's good for the flu
It's good for asthma
Good for tuberculosis
Even umara composis

Legalize it - don't criticize it
Legalize it and i will advertise it

Bird eat it
And they leave it
Fowls eat it
Goats love to play with it

ForrestDean

Yes, a lot of industries and corporations would be affected, most especially Big Pharma.  And yes, hemp is a cure for cancer, as well as a cure for many other diseases.

Hemp will never be legalized because once again the "System" demands it.  And who is the System?  WE are for the umpteenth time.  :lol:  As long as the current mindset of the global society remains the same then don't expect anything to change.

Xanth


bproulx12

no one has ever died from THC poisoning.....Legalize it! it is a cure for cancer IMHO, I think the side effects are minimal (laughing, extreme munchies, etc.....)

zareste

Y'know, violent, deadly force is being used against people who smoke weed. This is a criminal act, and the people guilty of harming others for smoking a plant will have to be tracked down to their homes and brought to justice before they cause further harm.

Debating the legality of weed is idiotic. It's like if your neighbor stabbed you for planting a garden, and the neighborhood responded by debating whether or not gardens should be allowed.

ForrestDean

Quote from: Xanth on September 07, 2012, 19:24:44
Things will change.  Slowly.

Yeah you're right.  Change is always constant, right?  :wink:

Basically, I'm just making the point that all these institutions, such as corporations and governments, that conspire against society for their own benefit are only doing what we demand they do.  Take Big Pharma for example.  As long as the major pharmacutical companies continue making billions of dollars from consumers with cancer or other illnesses, they will of course do anything in their power to prevent anything from interfering with that by conditioning society into believing there is no cure through mass media, and that their chemically made medicines are the only thing that will subdue or relieve their illness.  They of course heavily influence governments to pass laws against anyone or anything that gets in the way, which include natural cures.  Does anyone actually think they want the sick to get well?  They don't want us to die of course, well at least not all the time  :evil:, because we pay their bills and their lifestyle.  But the way the system is setup, it's only logical that they want to keep society sick.  A corporation can't make money by being ethical.  They wouldn't survive.  Big Pharma is just one example.  This is the personality of most all institutions because this is the personality of mainstream society.

So again, as long as the majority of mainstream society continues believing they must consume pharmacutical medicines to get "well" because their doctor told them so, and because all the commercials tell them so, and as long as they keep believing that naturally grown cures are nothing more than hippie crackpot snake oil because the movies and T.V. tell them so, then marijuana will continue to be illegal, and it will continue to be extremely challenging for others to get the real cure that actually works.

Like I've said before.  There is absolutely nothing wrong with any of this.  Everything is working exactly as it is intended.  Everything that occurs is our choice.  Otherwise it wouldn't occur of course.  :wink:  The system is setup exactly the way we chose to set it up, all to satisfy the demands of our ego.  These are all excellent learning opportunities however.  As every single moment is our own personal learning experience, we should collectively learn to work through these issues.  If we didn't have these conflicts, or any conflicts for that matter, we wouldn't have much to learn from.

Everytime protestors get out into the streets and protest against companies that perform unethically, the protestors are in a sense protesting against themselves because they are protesting against the very institutions that we ourselves created to suit our demands.  Sure, the company in question will implement new policies within reason to satisfy the protestors, but the new policies DO NOT change the person.  So what happens next?  Everyone goes back home and continues doing the same thing they've always been doing: Serving the self, serving their ego, and more times than not, the new policies end up being worse than before while at the same time 10 other companies are cropping up that will behave unfavorably towards society in some form or another.  It is impossible to change anything outside ourselves, so trying to change our institutions with protests or revolt will do nothing to change the system, because once again We as a collective are the System.

Just FYI, everytime we spend money at a grocery store, a department store, or practically any place of business that feeds our institutions throughout the globe, we cast our vote and give our support to the destruction of our ecology by supporting aggriculture, oil, hydrolic fracturing, chemical refineries, etc.  We give our support to many many other conflicts accross the globe because we all live out of harmony with the planet, with nature, and with each other by obsessively satisfying the demads of our ego.  To keep up with the increasing demands of society our institutions, which include our governments frequently have to go to extreme measures to keep up with those demands, such as wars, occupation, genocide etc..  So when someone talks about how terrible it is that our institutions prevent the use of substances that has the potential of saving lives, or how terrible this corporation is or that corporation is, or how stupid our laws are, etc., my question is always:

IS THIS A PROBLEM?

If it is, then what can we do to solve the problem?

Each and everyone one of us could easily grow our own hemp if we wanted to.  We could grow absolutely anything we wanted that could improve our lives, and there's nothing our institutions or laws could do about it if we would all support each other.  We could do absolutely ANYTHING we wanted and have a society never before experienced in the history of our planet if we all served one another instead of serving ourselves.  Global Unifcation is THE solution.  I'm not interested in how utopian that may sound to some.  Again, that is just more conditioning by mainstream media.  I understand that the majority of society is dominated by belief systems and of course the ego at the present moment.  Overcoming them is of course part of our learning experience.  However, global unification and world peace is not impossible.  It is inevitable.

So again, our institutions are not the problem.  There is no problem.  At the end of the day we only have ourselves.

Szaxx

Hi,
Long term effects of heavy use...
No-one gives a shut.
So nothing gets done.
No more weed on sale,
All users on the run.
The world will be that place,
Failing is easy find,
coz all of humanity,
Has a schizophrenic mind.

Use the plant but smoke, its a joke.
There's far more where the eye can't see.
Close your eyes and open your mind.

zareste

If weed-haters were dead, we wouldn't have to listen to that stuff. Sounds good doesn't it?

Szaxx

Only if its for the greater good.
We all have an opinion, the users say this the others say that. The general idea is all try its effects and form a consensus on its pro's and con's.
That way you get to the bottom and the choice is yours.
The question of is it good for my personal circumstances (illnesses) or will it create a problem that's new and worse (lack of coherence, eg, driving).
The end result will be whats been referred to as big pharma. Thats the medicine industry all over again...
Thoughts.
There's far more where the eye can't see.
Close your eyes and open your mind.

desert-rat

A joke that I remember form the late 60s t.v. show Laugh In , goes like this "  marijuana was legalized today and the U.S.   congress and seneat went in to a joint session "  desert rat 

Szaxx

Hi,
If you want a money spinner for big pharma. Look up helicabacter b pylori. Its the cause of stomach ulcers. It can be CURED with strong antibiotics and bismuth. Big pharma continue to treat the illness with antacids. See how much money is made each year with this tablet.
Its a joke, greed and suffering in one.
There's far more where the eye can't see.
Close your eyes and open your mind.