any tips for me?

[oneironaught]

during meditation with the intent to project i often see places or objects, sometimes ill even see my room right in front of my eyes, jsut as clearly as i do with my physical eyes. i also sometimes get this sensation where it feels like my body is flopping around or spinning, i think is may be my astral body, as sometimes i can control it. but i never seem to be able to completely leave, i only left twice, the first time was only for a few seconds, one i floated up i saw my room in oclors ive never seen before and paniced. the second time i felt that i was being shot down a tunnel, i saw this tunnel with my eyes closed, and i heard an eerie womans voice singing, like an opera singer or something

anyways, can anyone relate? any tips?

thank you

[Stookie]

It sounds like you're really, really close. Maybe you just weren't quite "loose" enough for a separation. But if you were that close, you should be able to do it again. The more you do it, the more familiar it becomes, and the more smooth the process becomes. Keep trying!

[EscapeVelocity]

You seem to be describing two separate things.

1) When you're still 'in' and spinning, flopping around...just let go as best you can and see what happens; worst thing is you fall asleep. You are, experimentally, fishing around for your own particular exit trigger. Only you can find it. What you read and what we offer here can at best, be only hints for what will work for you. Take notes, keep a journal...a year from now you'll be glad you did.

2) You describe being 'out', even if for just a few seconds or so...realise that this is a normal period of mental adjustment taking place. And it can take many small excursions like this for your 'awareness' to adjust and reorient itself to it's new environment. It's 'Focus Training'. And it can take some time and be quite frustrating literally every step of the way. It's astral baby steps...so look at it as fun and adventurous.

EV